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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 157
From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:35:52 AM | Message Detail
I'd like to believe majority of the voters saw Mega Man lying in fear from Link.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:36:07 AM | Message Detail
There's still a difference between SFF and transitivity though, but I'm not gettin' into that one tonight.
Gone to bed, g-nite ya'll.
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Gone to bed, g-nite ya'll.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:36:21 AM | Message Detail
I don't actually buy megaman/link SFF myself, but this would make more
sense then that does. I'm not saying it's huge, but I'd say there is
enough going on to create a small shift in percentages. Maybe 5% or so
swinging in mario's favour. This isn't to say he's weaker or stronger
at all since we have no idea where joanna stands to begin with.
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From: ExThaNemesis
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:36:30 AM | Message Detail
If Joanna is say... 3% stronger than JC Denton, which I think is plausible. Where would that put Mario on 2004 Samus?
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:36:33 AM | Message Detail
Considering just about everyone seems to be in agreement that Square
in general was weaker in 2004, I don't see why higher vote totals don't
favor them moreso than anybody else.
I know, but he was just saying because of the pace this match is at right now, and things are looking like Mario boosted, that the higher vote totals would help Nintendo for some reason.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I would love it if it did.
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Mario vs. Joanna - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (0/0)
I know, but he was just saying because of the pace this match is at right now, and things are looking like Mario boosted, that the higher vote totals would help Nintendo for some reason.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I would love it if it did.
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Mario vs. Joanna - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (0/0)
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:36:55 AM | Message Detail
I dunno. I always seemed to get Mega Man blasting Link into oblivion more often in that match.
I'm off to bed.
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I'm off to bed.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:37:51 AM | Message Detail
Mario 80.55% 2894
Joanna Dark 19.45% 699
TOTAL VOTES 3593
Flawless Victory
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Joanna Dark 19.45% 699
TOTAL VOTES 3593
Flawless Victory
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:38:07 AM | Message Detail
You expect Joanna Dark to hold Mario during the early morning/day?
She has 19% of the vote. That doesn't constitute as "holding mario" in any respect.
I can count on my fingers how many characters have been able to do that. Joanna isn't one of them.
You act as if keeping 19% of the vote would be a huge feat. It definitely isn't.
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She has 19% of the vote. That doesn't constitute as "holding mario" in any respect.
I can count on my fingers how many characters have been able to do that. Joanna isn't one of them.
You act as if keeping 19% of the vote would be a huge feat. It definitely isn't.
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:38:15 AM | Message Detail
I always seemed to get Mega Man blasting Link into oblivion more often in that match.
Same here, and I also got the Samus owning Cloud one more as well.
Anyway, night guys.
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Mario vs. Joanna - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (0/0)
Same here, and I also got the Samus owning Cloud one more as well.
Anyway, night guys.
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Mario vs. Joanna - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (0/0)
From: voltch
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:38:29 AM | Message Detail
the advantage of living in england is you get to see the matches while having breakfast at 8am
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From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:38:55 AM | Message Detail
...Are you serious? You expect Joanna Dark to hold Mario during the
early morning/day? I can count on my fingers how many characters have
been able to do that. Joanna isn't one of them.
Changes in percentage throughout the did have little to do with a character's strength. If the difference in strength of Joanna's day and night vote is larger than Mario's, Mario's percentage will fall during the day.
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Changes in percentage throughout the did have little to do with a character's strength. If the difference in strength of Joanna's day and night vote is larger than Mario's, Mario's percentage will fall during the day.
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From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:39:58 AM | Message Detail
Right now, Joanna would be at CATS level? Let me know if I'm wrong on this.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:40:26 AM | Message Detail
and mario breaks 3000 votes anyone want to guess when joanna will do the same
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:40:30 AM | Message Detail
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:40:38 AM | Message Detail
If Joanna is say... 3% stronger than JC Denton, which I think is plausible. Where would that put Mario on 2004 Samus?
If Joanna is at 15.57 on Link, then Mario is at 39.61, about 1.5 points higher than 2004. However, he still loses to Crono at that level, though it'd be more back on the "toss up" level.
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If Joanna is at 15.57 on Link, then Mario is at 39.61, about 1.5 points higher than 2004. However, he still loses to Crono at that level, though it'd be more back on the "toss up" level.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:40:42 AM | Message Detail
A fair bit below cats level if I'm not mistaken.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:41:31 AM | Message Detail
Again, I think Joanna is snugly between Sam Fisher and Conker.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:42:10 AM | Message Detail
Based on a static Mario, Joanna is currently at an even 15.00 on Link, putting her right below Sam Fisher.
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From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:42:25 AM | Message Detail
and mario breaks 3000 votes anyone want to guess when joanna will do the same
NEVAR.
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From: ExThaNemesis
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:42:53 AM | Message Detail
And he'll still need the help of SFF to beat Samus. Oh well, I'm
waiting to see more Mario matches till I throw in the towl/declare
victory. Stellar performance today though. =D
From: rpgapzx
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:43:36 AM | Message Detail
Who knows? This could be Nintendo's version of Square's 2003.
Do you know how awesome that would be?
Actually, if you look at last year's bracket, all that would do bump Mario over Crono and leaves without the nailbiter that was Jill/Ryu. The next closest Nintendo loss to not another Nintendo character was Kirby and Squall with still 9k+ difference between them.
I think we all need to stop tossing the term "SFF" around when it is not needed, personally.
Agreed. Anytime someone underperforms and theres any sembelance of similarity in games/genres SFF gets called upon quicker than my Dodgers bullpen this year. =(
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Do you know how awesome that would be?
Actually, if you look at last year's bracket, all that would do bump Mario over Crono and leaves without the nailbiter that was Jill/Ryu. The next closest Nintendo loss to not another Nintendo character was Kirby and Squall with still 9k+ difference between them.
I think we all need to stop tossing the term "SFF" around when it is not needed, personally.
Agreed. Anytime someone underperforms and theres any sembelance of similarity in games/genres SFF gets called upon quicker than my Dodgers bullpen this year. =(
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:43:38 AM | Message Detail
Based on a static Mario, Joanna is currently at an even 15.00 on Link, putting her right below Sam Fisher.
Based on a static Mario, Joanna is currently at about 13.38%...
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Based on a static Mario, Joanna is currently at about 13.38%...
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From: voltch
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:44:52 AM | Message Detail
Mario 80.85% 3234
Joanna Dark 19.15% 766
TOTAL VOTES 4000
joanna can't even break 800 votes while mario is racing towards 3300
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Joanna Dark 19.15% 766
TOTAL VOTES 4000
joanna can't even break 800 votes while mario is racing towards 3300
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:44:54 AM | Message Detail
When I measured her, she was actually at about 19.6% at the time. Mario's picked up the pace pretty quickly.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:44:54 AM | Message Detail
She has 19% of the vote. That doesn't constitute as "holding mario" in any respect.
Holding him not in the vote lead, but in increasing in percentage. There's on possible way I could see Mario remaining the same from tonight through tomorrow morning. His strongest time has never been during the night. Joanna shouldn't be much different at any time.
Changes in percentage throughout the did have little to do with a character's strength. If the difference in strength of Joanna's day and night vote is larger than Mario's, Mario's percentage will fall during the day.
And I see no reason to believe such a thing at all.
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Holding him not in the vote lead, but in increasing in percentage. There's on possible way I could see Mario remaining the same from tonight through tomorrow morning. His strongest time has never been during the night. Joanna shouldn't be much different at any time.
Changes in percentage throughout the did have little to do with a character's strength. If the difference in strength of Joanna's day and night vote is larger than Mario's, Mario's percentage will fall during the day.
And I see no reason to believe such a thing at all.
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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 1 - (8) Joanna Dark
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From: Coolsnow
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:45:06 AM | Message Detail
Hah...I remember the very first contest when there was nothing to base
performance on...everything was kind of just guesswork. That was fun.
>_>
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From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:45:38 AM | Message Detail
Which is right below GF. Heh.
GF vs. JD, who wins? Three guesses.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:46:15 AM | Message Detail
And I see no reason to believe such a thing at all.
Even though it's true? Honestly, Ratchet is one of the most pathetic characters we've seen in a contest, and he STILL gained during in the day on Dante and Luigi (significantly on the latter).
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Even though it's true? Honestly, Ratchet is one of the most pathetic characters we've seen in a contest, and he STILL gained during in the day on Dante and Luigi (significantly on the latter).
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:47:34 AM | Message Detail
Good grief. Mario's increasing percentage rapidly. He's up to 81.1% now.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:47:52 AM | Message Detail
And I see no reason to believe such a thing at all.
Why wouldn't Joanna be stronger in the day then at night? It really isn't impossible.
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Why wouldn't Joanna be stronger in the day then at night? It really isn't impossible.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:47:56 AM | Message Detail
Even though it's true? Honestly, Ratchet is one of the most pathetic
characters we've seen in a contest, and he STILL gained during in the
day on Dante and Luigi (significantly on the latter).
I certainly did not say or imply that this applied to every character, or every fodder character. There are certainly those who would be different. But I wouldn't expect Joanna's strength, or ability to gain votes, during the night to be weaker than her ability to gain votes during the day.
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I certainly did not say or imply that this applied to every character, or every fodder character. There are certainly those who would be different. But I wouldn't expect Joanna's strength, or ability to gain votes, during the night to be weaker than her ability to gain votes during the day.
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From: Keno316
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:48:06 AM | Message Detail
Boy I missed this...
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From: BeTheMan
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:48:46 AM | Message Detail
It's a shame that the auto-updater wasn't around to catch PD/SotN...but
it's worth noting that Goldeneye made some type of percentage gain
during the late morning/afternoon hours against all three of its
opponents, including Ocarina of Time. IMO, Joanna has a fair shot at
picking up a little bit of ground percentage-wise as the day wears on.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:49:24 AM | Message Detail
Good grief. Mario's increasing percentage rapidly. He's up to 81.1% now.
Yeah, it seems like Ms. Dark was actually winning the board vte, making her somehow even weaker then this. lol... She's going to end up around guybrush if this keeps up.
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Yeah, it seems like Ms. Dark was actually winning the board vte, making her somehow even weaker then this. lol... She's going to end up around guybrush if this keeps up.
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From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:49:32 AM | Message Detail
I'm guessing Mario finishes with 83%
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:49:43 AM | Message Detail
Why wouldn't Joanna be stronger in the day then at night? It really isn't impossible.
I didn't say it was out of the question, but I do not believe that Joanna would be much different between her night vote and her day vote. Mario remaining constant, or even pulling even, isn't something I suspect of happening, personally. But we'll see.
Mario 81.07% 3524
Joanna Dark 18.93% 823
TOTAL VOTES 4347
Mario's on a roll. <3
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I didn't say it was out of the question, but I do not believe that Joanna would be much different between her night vote and her day vote. Mario remaining constant, or even pulling even, isn't something I suspect of happening, personally. But we'll see.
Mario 81.07% 3524
Joanna Dark 18.93% 823
TOTAL VOTES 4347
Mario's on a roll. <3
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From: voltch
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:49:47 AM | Message Detail
why does everyone argue about when joanna performs at her best? just
let her do what she does in these polls. then say how crappy she was at
xtime of the day
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:50:32 AM | Message Detail
Joanna's got a LONG way to go before she becomes more pathetic than Guybrush. I think she's safe from getting that low.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:51:56 AM | Message Detail
Mario remaining constant, or even pulling even, isn't something I suspect of happening, personally. But we'll see.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that mario won't increase in percentage with the day vote, just that it isn't out of the question for him to decrease. I approach these situations differently then most people it seems, and it makes it look like I'm arguing for something I don't believe. Sorry for any confusion.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that mario won't increase in percentage with the day vote, just that it isn't out of the question for him to decrease. I approach these situations differently then most people it seems, and it makes it look like I'm arguing for something I don't believe. Sorry for any confusion.
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From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:52:05 AM | Message Detail
And I see no reason to believe such a thing at all
Day and Night voting doesn't always make logical sense. A character could have a really weak night vote and thus a really strong day vote just because they do.
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Day and Night voting doesn't always make logical sense. A character could have a really weak night vote and thus a really strong day vote just because they do.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:53:03 AM | Message Detail
Joanna's got a LONG way to go before she becomes more pathetic than Guybrush. I think she's safe from getting that low.
I was just exxagerating due to how funny it is that she might be a good deal weaker then she even seems now.
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I was just exxagerating due to how funny it is that she might be a good deal weaker then she even seems now.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:53:12 AM | Message Detail
A character could have a really weak night vote and thus a really strong day vote just because they do.
And the opposite is generally true for Chrono Trigger. They dominate the night better than anybody, but they suffer during the day for it.
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And the opposite is generally true for Chrono Trigger. They dominate the night better than anybody, but they suffer during the day for it.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:55:05 AM | Message Detail
well this match might actually break 100k vote totals. not bad year then. so how many brackets have been submitted
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From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:57:20 AM | Message Detail
It's a shame that the auto-updater wasn't around to catch PD/SotN
Yeah, having to do it by hand was annoying. You can still find most of the updates here:
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/04Spring/04Spring-AllVoteUpdates.txt
(courtesy of Ngamer64's contest archive)
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Yeah, having to do it by hand was annoying. You can still find most of the updates here:
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/04Spring/04Spring-AllVoteUpdates.txt
(courtesy of Ngamer64's contest archive)
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From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/19/2005 12:59:09 AM | Message Detail
Next match!
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 1:00:34 AM | Message Detail
Mario 81.27% 4065
Joanna Dark 18.73% 937
TOTAL VOTES 5002
Mario's flying again.
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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 1 - (8) Joanna Dark
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Joanna Dark 18.73% 937
TOTAL VOTES 5002
Mario's flying again.
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From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 7/19/2005 1:01:49 AM | Message Detail
Total votes at 1:00
Cloud vs Samus 2k4- 4903
Mario vs Joanna Dark- 5014
Still on pace for >100k.
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Cloud vs Samus 2k4- 4903
Mario vs Joanna Dark- 5014
Still on pace for >100k.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 1:04:08 AM | Message Detail
Damn. That's awesome. Mario's just racking in the votes for this match. I'm hoping this can at least get 90,000.
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From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 1:04:36 AM | Message Detail
I'm wondering how Dark is getting any votes.
I mean, how can you really love her more than Mario? It makes me sad :(
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I mean, how can you really love her more than Mario? It makes me sad :(
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 7/19/2005 1:05:49 AM | Message Detail
Mario 81.2% 4318
Joanna Dark 18.8% 1000
TOTAL VOTES 5318
It took her over an hour to get 1000 votes, but she made it.
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Joanna Dark 18.8% 1000
TOTAL VOTES 5318
It took her over an hour to get 1000 votes, but she made it.
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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 1 - (8) Joanna Dark
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