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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 155
From: Cokes11 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:39:23 PM | Message Detail
It is fairly far down on the pages that its linked on, which kinda makes me wonder how many will see it. The fact that GSers have mediocre tastes (from what I've seen) gives me a bit of worry about a few matches, though.
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From: TheGreatMaster | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:40:35 PM | Message Detail
What kinds of characters are favored there? In a close match, what might they change?

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From: Lopen | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:40:51 PM | Message Detail
I'd think that Mario would be the one helped from Gamespot linkage vs Samus...
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From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:42:36 PM | Message Detail
I think Metal Gear in general is going to love this link.

Snake going back to 2k3 levels seems likely to me...
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:42:43 PM | Message Detail
Are we even sure if that link will remain up throughout the contest? It may be just an effort to get a few last minute brackets in. Proceed with caution; now's not the time to change Samus/Crono to CJ/Vercetti.
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From: Cokes11 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:42:56 PM | Message Detail
They tend to favor newer characters over classic characters, in general. I'd expect MC, CJ, Vercetti, maybe Sam Fisher, GFNW, to get stronger
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From: Cokes11 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:44:15 PM | Message Detail
It's not going to be a radical change, of course. But in some close matches. Squall and Sora could also gain some strength, I think, which could totally throw off the plan.

>_>
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From: TheGreatMaster | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:44:19 PM | Message Detail
You think it'll help Mario in Mario vs. Samus? Well, that's one thing I like, at least. <_<

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From: TheGreatMaster | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:44:53 PM | Message Detail
Oh crap, Sora. I didn't even think of that.

And I was so confident in Alucard... %_%

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From: Cokes11 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:47:52 PM | Message Detail
Also, Great Master, about your sig...when was that? Because in one topic, I called it within 8 minutes.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:48:04 PM | Message Detail
It's just speculation, but Mario seems more "mainstream", which is apparently what GS will favor (that's what it sounds like, anyway). Unless Metroid dominates contests there or something.

I'm not liking Kratos Aurion vs Diablo now though...
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:49:12 PM | Message Detail
KOS-MOS is newer than Luigi... right?

>_>
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From: Cokes11 | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:49:15 PM | Message Detail
They don't have contests there, do they? But I think Samus, as she is more badass, would be who they favor, but that's just my hunch.
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From: TheGreatMaster | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:52:34 PM | Message Detail
Also, Great Master, about your sig...when was that? Because in one topic, I called it within 8 minutes.

I made a topic for predicting the release of the bracket.

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From: Fingolfin the Elf | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:53:57 PM | Message Detail
Oh crap I just realized something....Gordon Freeman, could win. From what I remember, GS is a PC favored site(unless that is Gamespy i'm thinking of, in that case please disregard this post).
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From: Lopen | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:54:01 PM | Message Detail
Er... I meant polls. Surely they must have polls?

And, to be honest, I don't think Samus is really badass. I'm not buying that she gets a boost from more GS users here.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:54:26 PM | Message Detail
I really don't see it being a big problem. It may add to the vote totals, but I don't think it'll skew the results too much. It's not like Gamespot readers who would be willing to come here would solely put their money with new school or the most mainstream.

Case in point: The Reader's Tenspot for favourite villains. Sephy got five times as many votes as his nearest competition, and Kefka and Metroid Prime both got in solely on write-in votes.
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From: Cavalier Lowen | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:55:58 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't change to Gordon Freeman, RE4 is a highly acclaimed game, and I think it'd probably be popular round gamespot.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:58:02 PM | Message Detail
Mac, you're putting way too much faith into the villain contest. Ganondorf and Bowser doing so well in it doesn't seal anything for me. Bowser did better than Mario, I mean come on. It makes alot more sense to assume that Sephiroth didn't do as well as he should have than to assume that Bowser and Ganondorf went way up.


I was talking about the reasoning of the board in general, if you didn't catch that. I have my own reasons for my picks.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 7/15/2005 5:59:44 PM | Message Detail
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From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:03:08 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't change to Gordon Freeman, RE4 is a highly acclaimed game, and I think it'd probably be popular round gamespot.

Hell, I wouldn't change to Freeman period. I made that mistake when I picked Freeman over Max Payne in 2003.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:03:56 PM | Message Detail
The poll slightly to the bottom right of the ad for the GameFAQs contest on GameSpot has ~1400 votes right now, not exactly a whole lot. If you don't care about the poll on GameSpot, it's not likely you will care about the GameFAQs one much more. The GameSpot Factor should be minor at best.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:06:06 PM | Message Detail
The poll slightly to the bottom right of the ad for the GameFAQs contest on GameSpot has ~1400 votes right now, not exactly a whole lot. If you don't care about the poll on GameSpot, it's not likely you will care about the GameFAQs one much more. The GameSpot Factor should be minor at best.

That poll is, at most, two hours old.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:09:30 PM | Message Detail
The poll slightly to the bottom right of the ad for the GameFAQs contest on GameSpot has ~1400 votes right now, not exactly a whole lot. If you don't care about the poll on GameSpot, it's not likely you will care about the GameFAQs one much more. The GameSpot Factor should be minor at best.

The poll just started, and the ones about gaming get a lot of votes. Particuarly, the one where they ask which next gen system looks the best. I believe that one eclipsed 70,000 votes.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:10:20 PM | Message Detail
I see. Thier poll acrhive doesn't seem to be very helpful in determineing how many votes they usually get. Some barely reach 1000, others hit 20000 and one of them seems to have 0 votes.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:12:33 PM | Message Detail
Some mentioned in the Gamespot topic have over 80000, and Gamespot is a more popular site than GameFAQs is.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&compare_sites=gamefaqs.com&y=p&q=&url=www.gamespot.com
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:12:39 PM | Message Detail
Those vote totals are much too erratic to be taken seriously. Anywhere from 1000 to 80000? What the hell is that?
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From: Lopen | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:13:14 PM | Message Detail
Are you disappointed that Halo 2 has been pushed back to Autumn 2004?
Yes 6871 (81%)
No 1522 (18%)
I don't care either way 5 (0%)

That's really impressive that an option got that few votes. Some of the more interesting polls pull 20000-30000ish in a day. So I could see a few thousand extra coming here, for sure. Definitely enough to turn the tide in a few nail-biters.

And oops on me, Mac. Didn't see that. But my statement on the validity of the Summer Contest still stands.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:13:47 PM | Message Detail
It's worth noting, the one about which system looks the best was up for at least two days, as I voted in it one day and then went back to check it the next day and it was still up.
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From: transience | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:14:05 PM | Message Detail
I don't know how you can judge gamespot users' tastes either. yeah, GTA is the biggest game there. it is here, too.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:14:54 PM | Message Detail
I get the feeling that some of Gamespot's polls are not up for exactly 24 hours, which could cause large discrepancies.
From: Lopen | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:14:58 PM | Message Detail
And guys, look at the release dates of the polls in relation to the next. That would explain the erratic vote totals.

The ones that have 80000 votes were up for a few days. The ones with 2000 were up for an hour or two.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:15:07 PM | Message Detail
Exactly. I think everyone is overblowing this. They have negative stereotypes of Gamespotters preconceived because of the merger, where only the idiotic gamespotters were noticed. In reality, I doubt their tastes really differ from ours.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:15:55 PM | Message Detail
In reality, I doubt their tastes really differ from ours.

I'm sure they REALLY love Chrono Trigger!
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:16:44 PM | Message Detail
I am too. Why would you even think they don't? There is nothing to prove if they do or don't...
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:17:30 PM | Message Detail
Um, before SC2k2, nobody here had a clue that Chrono Trigger was so popular on GameFAQs. That's why Crono vs. Snake had, IIRC, the worst prediction percentage of the contest. Mega Man's popularity was incredibly surprising as well.
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:29:39 PM | Message Detail
Um, before SC2k2, nobody here had a clue that Chrono Trigger was so popular on GameFAQs. That's why Crono vs. Snake had, IIRC, the worst prediction percentage of the contest. Mega Man's popularity was incredibly surprising as well.

Exactly, I remember myself and others being shocked when Snake went down to Crono.
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From: dethwing | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:31:37 PM | Message Detail
Actually Link for champion was the lowest by about 2% (or 300 pickers). Had Mario won, at 1:6 odds I suspect Crono's mark would have held up.
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From: Cokes11 | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:34:42 PM | Message Detail
To be honest with you guys, I think the reason GTA is the biggest game here is because GS users come here looking for the Walkthroughs, as GS links to them.
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From: creativename | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:49:35 PM | Message Detail
Actually, the only reason I decided to play Chrono Trigger years back was because of the raving GameSpot review for Chrono Cross. I figured I should play Trigger before Cross.

But I'm with those that don't expect this to match much difference. This won't impact more than a few thousand votes I'd say; and my guess is that the "net" difference, in terms of voting patterns, would probably be in the hundreds (or very low thousands).
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From: swirldude | Posted: 7/15/2005 6:54:20 PM | Message Detail
Board 8 not loving CT in 2002 has nothing to do with my statement. GameFAQs has always loved Crono, since then Board 8 has joined them. But GameSpot does not. Thus, it hurts Crono, Magus, and Frog.
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From: Tai | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:15:34 PM | Message Detail
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/15/2005 8:36:59 PM | Message Detail
I'm still not changing anything...

I'm getting on that leaderboard, and nothing will stop me.

Guys, you're overhyping GameSpot. Calm down. :-(
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:39:36 PM | Message Detail
With this new news... Conker for the win! Or at least to avoid a doubling >_>
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:42:17 PM | Message Detail
I really dont think it will be that big of a difference. Most people that regularly visit Gamespot over the past few years had to of atleast been aware this was going on.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:43:55 PM | Message Detail
NewLib, you're forgetting that half of our own voting population wasn't aware that there was a contest going on a couple of weeks ago.
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:46:29 PM | Message Detail
Where does it say that the Character Poll will be showing up on GameSpot as well?

All I see now is a link to the the contest page.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:52:08 PM | Message Detail
I'll reserve judgment until the second match of the contest. If C.J. crushes Ness, then we can say it'll make a difference.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:53:46 PM | Message Detail
They werent aware the bracket was out. If you even paid half attention to the poll they know that a character contest existed in the past. And if not, they arent the type of people to vote in the first place. The people who would follow a link from Gamespot just to VOTE in a character contest are the people who would already know about it.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:57:01 PM | Message Detail
I know Gamestop is an entirely different situation than anything we've had in the past, but Starcraft, Diablo, and Master Chief all made huge gains at around the same time that links went up. People followed those links, so they will probably follow the Gamespot link. There is much, much more traffic at Gamespot, remember...
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/15/2005 7:58:41 PM | Message Detail
But they followed those links to vote for a particular character, you are getting a hodgepog of people here. Remember the people who visit Gamespot/IGN are not casual gaming fans. Anyone benefits from this its Nintendo characters.
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