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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 155
From: King Calamari | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:32:34 AM | Message Detail
Why would we be getting higher vote totals?

29 Kirby 92.98

I'd pay to see this poll.
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From: hero of time 43 | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:38:04 AM | Message Detail
To Mario over Samus supports:

Anyone having a feeling that Mario may be more riskier than we thought?


It is a bit of risky pick, and it's definitely my biggest 'FU' to the stats, but I'm not about to change it. I'm concentrating much more on matches like Bowser vs. Snake, Auron vs. Dorf, etc. because they're all tougher for me than Mario/Samus.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:42:53 AM | Message Detail
Mario Vs Samus seems the be the only match I re-check and re-think over and over. The rest are more likely to be my actual bracket than Mario Vs Samus.
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From: Tai | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:43:53 AM | Message Detail
Anyone having a feeling that Mario may be more riskier than we thought?

Than we thought? No, I always knew it was risky. People are just arguing two things: SFF and "IT"S NOT RIGHT HE"S THE KING OF GAMES I"LL JUMP OFF A CLIFF IF HE LOSES!1111!11!!"

Speaking of injustices, a mute character beating Mario can't possibly be worse.......
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:45:02 AM | Message Detail
I don't expect Jin to avoid the quadrupling from Sonic. If he's stronger than Terry, it won't be by very much at all.
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Round 1: (7) Geno
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:52:05 AM | Message Detail
Even fans of Tekken hate Jin. I have no idea how he got in over Kazuya.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:53:31 AM | Message Detail
Who likes Kazuya? King is where it's at.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: therealmnm | Posted: 7/14/2005 10:02:12 AM | Message Detail
I always thought Law was the Tekken fan favorite myself, at least in the first two. (Forrest Law as well...)
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 7/14/2005 10:41:39 AM | Message Detail
100k averages would be nice, but I don't see it happening unless the poll gets moved up. I expect a small increase from last year - if Sephiroth vs Ganon can get 103k, it's hard to imagine Crono vs Samus doing worse.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 7/14/2005 10:49:10 AM | Message Detail
I wonder how higher vote totals would effect on other things..
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From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 7/14/2005 11:32:05 AM | Message Detail
Jin and Kazuya.....but no Heihachi?

That's weird.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:05:52 PM | Message Detail
You know, I can't help but think that TJF might be a bigger factor than given credit for...

First off, Morrigan...she takes off 1/3 of Mario's vote, and more than doubles Spyro. She's from a series hardly anyone has played, and thus gets most of her fame from the Capcom VS series...

Gordon vs. Tina...Tina probably got a boost against Gordon with her lovely leg pic. Many people agree on this already.

Jill vs. Kirby...okay, so Kirby happens to be at his "weakest" in this contest. I hear Jill had more cleavage in her picture against Kirby than other pics...

KOS-MOS...she's far and away the most popular non-Squaresoft RPG character we've witnessed, while Albedo utterly bombed...Kratos and Lloyd could be close to her, though.

It'll be interesting to see how Tifa compares to Aeris.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:25:51 PM | Message Detail
How 'bout Aya? It's still something that she managed to get so close to the character that defines middle of the pack.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth
From: Starion | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:27:19 PM | Message Detail
Funny how you never mentioned Lara Croft. Did the TJF not affect her matches or what?
From: Lopen | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:27:52 PM | Message Detail
I would think Yoshimitsu or Heihachi would be the strongest representatives. That's partially because they're from Soul Calibur as well, though. Jin will do better than Terry, though. Sadly. I'm betting he'll just avoid the quadrupling.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: steve illumina | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:39:52 PM | Message Detail
As a fighting game master, I have to say Christie, AKA Eddy, was where its at in this series. Pure fun to use these characters and show off for kiddies in the arcades...

Kitana would whip them both... *swings the fans*
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From: Heroic Hentai Fanboy | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:41:30 PM | Message Detail
Funny how you never mentioned Lara Croft. Did the TJF not affect her matches or what?

Lara is ugly as hell, which nullifies all possible TJF.
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:42:10 PM | Message Detail
Lloyd??? #2 seeded Lloyd is this year's overseeded glorified jobber. He will win a match only cause he has a weak opponent in Wesker. 2/3 of the bracket would beat him soundly, including most of the 8 seeds and bums like KOS-MOS.

Face it fanbabies, you know its true...
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:42:35 PM | Message Detail
I concur there. Lara's face looks like she stood in the middle of a horse racetrack in the middle of a race.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/14/2005 12:50:12 PM | Message Detail
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From: outback | Posted: 7/14/2005 1:12:42 PM | Message Detail
From: steve illumina
Lloyd??? #2 seeded Lloyd is this year's overseeded glorified jobber. He will win a match only cause he has a weak opponent in Wesker. 2/3 of the bracket would beat him soundly, including most of the 8 seeds and bums like KOS-MOS.

Face it fanbabies, you know its true...


Thanks for stating the obvious.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 7/14/2005 1:30:36 PM | Message Detail
Lloyd??? #2 seeded Lloyd is this year's overseeded glorified jobber. He will win a match only cause he has a weak opponent in Wesker. 2/3 of the bracket would beat him soundly, including most of the 8 seeds and bums like KOS-MOS.

So then, how do you think he'll compare to Mithos? From Mithos vs. Kefka, it's clear that Lloyd would beat Kefka soundly, don't you agree?
From: Dranze | Posted: 7/14/2005 2:03:01 PM | Message Detail
Would Kratos? =p
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/14/2005 2:03:45 PM | Message Detail
I think Kratos could beat Kefka.
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Round 1: (7) Geno
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/14/2005 2:04:57 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Kefka, myself.
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From: transience | Posted: 7/14/2005 3:01:50 PM | Message Detail
too bad Zidane and Wesker weren't switched. Lloyd/Zidane would be much more interesting.

Lloyd had the potential to be unpredictable, but his path features a brick wall called Zero.

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From: Phediuk | Posted: 7/14/2005 3:07:54 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, you expect ~100K votes with most matches?

Please. The spring contest didn't get anywhere NEAR that. I'm expecting about 85,000 votes average.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 7/14/2005 3:31:02 PM | Message Detail
I'd have taken Zidane over Lloyd without hesitation. If it weren't for the fact that Wesker is his rd 1 opponent I don't know that I'd have taken him to win a match at all.

And as far as vote increases, well... if site traffic has increased I expect higher vote totals. This last spring's contest is a bad judge of that since there was such a high level of fodder that interest couldn't have been high.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 7/14/2005 3:31:28 PM | Message Detail
Damnit, Ulti, I want to see the rest of your list. ;_;

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that The Economist is God and that you suck if you do not read it.

*hugs his copies*
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/14/2005 3:48:00 PM | Message Detail
You'll have to wait until I get back from vacation. I assume the stats topic will be in good hands until I'm back, yes? >_>

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From: Gordon Finish | Posted: 7/14/2005 4:06:21 PM | Message Detail
Manny over Snake.

Videotape it.

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From: swirldude | Posted: 7/14/2005 4:09:35 PM | Message Detail
You'll have to wait until I get back from vacation. I assume the stats topic will be in good hands until I'm back, yes? >_>

Heh. Heh Heh. Har. Ha. Haha.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 7/14/2005 4:22:15 PM | Message Detail
You'll have to wait until I get back from vacation. I assume the stats topic will be in good hands until I'm back, yes? >_>

You'll need a miracle for that one...

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From: Weird Kirby Dude11 | Posted: 7/14/2005 4:44:35 PM | Message Detail
I have to take myself out of the Guru contest because I won't be here to post my bracket.

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Ngamer64
3 - yoblazer33
4 - Team Rocket Elite
5 - Ballpoint Pencil
6 - HaRRicH
7 - NewLib
8 - Heroic Mario
9 - RPGGamer0
10- Tirofog
11 - Haste2
12 - Fiop
13 - Starion
14 - Lopen
15 - greatone10
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - SonicRaptor
18 - Lucid Faia
19 - Draco1214
20 - Gr8CyberMonkey
21 - Heroic Viktor (tnote)
22 - Undeniable
23 - CaptainFlufflez
24 - Dranze
25 - Vile Requiem
26 - Forceful Dragon
27 - Lieutenant Kettch
28 - swirldude
29 - andaca
30 - Ed_Bellis
31 - RPGuy96
32 - Janus5000
33 - Dilated Chemist
34 - Applekidjosh
35 - Mac Arrowny
36 - Z1mZum
37 - Link Jr
38 - Aprosenf
39 - Chinballz
40 - somdude04
41 - Buzzup
42 - Silverflame
43 - cavedog0
44 - Shake
45 - Lettuce Kefka
46 - Rufus Shinra 18
47 - Gooper Blooper
48 - Ringworm
49 - stepintothearena
50 - Zylo the wolf
51 - Fantusta
52 - XxSoulxX
53 - Heroic Gamma Ray
54 - jonthomson
55 - Master Moltar
56 - XIII is cool
57 - Tediz247
58 - charmander6000
59 - plasmabeam
60 - Phediuk
61 - alpha door
62 - ExThaNemesis
63 - Tai
64 - Shdwdde
65 - VicPez
66 - Sir Bormun
67 - Tjian
68 - Brainstruck
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - ShinDragon (sidharta)
71 - Brett with Atreyu
72 - Smurf87
73 - DeeJayDragon
74 - DomaDragoon
75 - dragoontheguy
76 - Radix
77 - rpgapzx
78 - PugTheNinja
79 - Kaxon
80 - FastFalcon05
81 - ubarn
82 - King Morgoth
83 - Mithrandir1331
84 - cyko
85 - Fett0001
86 - SecondBest
87 - Shivan Reincarnated
88 - outback
89 - A worlds envy
90 - Crono801
91 - LuniNutz99
92 - Sephirot1
93 - ExquisiteSamurai
94 - SlangEdter41
95 - voltch
96 - transience
97 - igota75
98 - dethfddddh
99 - red sox 777
100 - Yesmar
101 - ff6man
102 - arkenaga
103 - meche313
104 - BeTheMan
105 - bigkevinm84
106 - Steinershocker
107 - steve illumina
108 - Naye745
109 - MasterMage119
110 - Acronym
111 - SoulKnightX
112 - perdevious
113 - Jman_gamerX8
114 - fallenstar
115 - ps2rulezzz
116 - KingBartz
117 - Heroic Knuckles
118 - MMXcalibur
119 - nh82
120 - Explicit Content
121 - KrahenProphet
122 - Figlar20000
123 - nifboy
124 - dethwing
125 - Garsha
126 - Prometheus321
127 - JonPen1416
128 - TheGreatMaster
129 - The Wise Tonberry
130 - futuresuperstar
131 - TheRye
132 - XxSabin FigaroxX
133 - DpObliVion
134 - expaniol
135 - CompmanJX3
136 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 7/14/2005 4:48:01 PM | Message Detail
I have to take myself out of the Guru contest because I won't be here to post my bracket.

There's no need to drop out for that reason. Just talk to Ngamer64 or UltimaterializerX about submitting your bracket early.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/14/2005 6:48:00 PM | Message Detail
I'm actually going to be posting the topic in a couple of seconds, seeing as I'm leaving for Michigan in a little bit and won't be here for lockdown.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/14/2005 7:14:35 PM | Message Detail
I would think Yoshimitsu or Heihachi would be the strongest representatives.

I'd say Yoshimitsu without thinkin' twice. Tekken and Soul Calibur both; that's gotta mean something. Plus, as a casual fighter, I like the pogo-swording son-of-a-gun. I said it in one of Leonhart's NCAA topics before; if he happened to face CJ, I would take that sexy upset.

too bad Zidane and Wesker weren't switched. Lloyd/Zidane would be much more interesting.

That WOULD be great...then switch Zero and Kerrigan too like I've said, and there's suddenly several more interesting matches/divisions.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 7/14/2005 7:26:42 PM | Message Detail
I fail to see why we'd have significantly higher vote totals. We have an interesting bracket, but even 92K is pushing it without Link, Cloud, or Sephiroth.
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SC2K5: Mario, Frog, Snake, Tidus, Crono, Knuckles, Sonic, Ocelot
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/14/2005 7:36:58 PM | Message Detail
If nothing else, Link/Cloud very well could be having a higher vote-total this year than last year...and it didn't do too bad for itself then, heh. I maintain that we could be seein' some better vote totals this summer than last year, and we will be seein' higher totals than the Spring Contest.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 7/14/2005 8:23:02 PM | Message Detail
Well, it's not like Mario, Samus, Crono, Sonic, and Mega Man aren't vote draws.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 7/14/2005 8:32:02 PM | Message Detail
Close matches also draw the votes, so we could be having some nice vote totals indeed.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Bocase | Posted: 7/14/2005 8:35:25 PM | Message Detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Ngamer64
3 - yoblazer33
4 - Team Rocket Elite
5 - Ballpoint Pencil
6 - HaRRicH
7 - NewLib
8 - Heroic Mario
9 - RPGGamer0
10- Tirofog
11 - Haste2
12 - Fiop
13 - Starion
14 - Lopen
15 - greatone10
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - SonicRaptor
18 - Lucid Faia
19 - Draco1214
20 - Gr8CyberMonkey
21 - Heroic Viktor (tnote)
22 - Undeniable
23 - CaptainFlufflez
24 - Dranze
25 - Vile Requiem
26 - Forceful Dragon
27 - Lieutenant Kettch
28 - swirldude
29 - andaca
30 - Ed_Bellis
31 - RPGuy96
32 - Janus5000
33 - Dilated Chemist
34 - Applekidjosh
35 - Mac Arrowny
36 - Z1mZum
37 - Link Jr
38 - Aprosenf
39 - Chinballz
40 - somdude04
41 - Buzzup
42 - Silverflame
43 - cavedog0
44 - Shake
45 - Lettuce Kefka
46 - Rufus Shinra 18
47 - Gooper Blooper
48 - Ringworm
49 - stepintothearena
50 - Zylo the wolf
51 - Fantusta
52 - XxSoulxX
53 - Heroic Gamma Ray
54 - jonthomson
55 - Master Moltar
56 - XIII is cool
57 - Tediz247
58 - charmander6000
59 - plasmabeam
60 - Phediuk
61 - alpha door
62 - ExThaNemesis
63 - Tai
64 - Shdwdde
65 - VicPez
66 - Sir Bormun
67 - Tjian
68 - Brainstruck
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - ShinDragon (sidharta)
71 - Brett with Atreyu
72 - Smurf87
73 - DeeJayDragon
74 - DomaDragoon
75 - dragoontheguy
76 - Radix
77 - rpgapzx
78 - PugTheNinja
79 - Kaxon
80 - FastFalcon05
81 - ubarn
82 - King Morgoth
83 - Mithrandir1331
84 - cyko
85 - Fett0001
86 - SecondBest
87 - Shivan Reincarnated
88 - outback
89 - A worlds envy
90 - Crono801
91 - LuniNutz99
92 - Sephirot1
93 - ExquisiteSamurai
94 - SlangEdter41
95 - voltch
96 - transience
97 - igota75
98 - dethfddddh
99 - red sox 777
100 - Yesmar
101 - ff6man
102 - arkenaga
103 - meche313
104 - BeTheMan
105 - bigkevinm84
106 - Steinershocker
107 - steve illumina
108 - Naye745
109 - MasterMage119
110 - Acronym
111 - SoulKnightX
112 - perdevious
113 - Jman_gamerX8
114 - fallenstar
115 - ps2rulezzz
116 - KingBartz
117 - Heroic Knuckles
118 - MMXcalibur
119 - nh82
120 - Explicit Content
121 - KrahenProphet
122 - Figlar20000
123 - nifboy
124 - dethwing
125 - Garsha
126 - Prometheus321
127 - JonPen1416
128 - TheGreatMaster
129 - The Wise Tonberry
130 - futuresuperstar
131 - TheRye
132 - XxSabin FigaroxX
133 - DpObliVion
134 - expaniol
135 - CompmanJX3
136 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
137 - Bocase
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:13:39 PM | Message Detail
Steering off subject for a little bit ..

I was wondering if Cloud has a "semi" good chance to pull the upset over Link?? I know it seems like Link will probably win without too much of a trouble but I just can't pull myself together to put Link > Cloud ... Blame my fanboyism.. But I was just wondering if Cloud has any decent shot rather than a slim shot at beating Link ..

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:16:05 PM | Message Detail
I'm wondering why Link is expected to win "without much trouble." He won by less than 5000 votes last year, and close to the same margin that Cloud won by in 2003. It's not like it's an impossible margin to overcome.
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:18:16 PM | Message Detail
I am counting on Anti-"repeat"Champ votes (if there's any) and Advent Children > Hype of Twilight Princess

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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:18:37 PM | Message Detail
Cloud has a very good chance at upsetting Link. The 2k4 match was pretty close and Advent Children will be released a few days before the match.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:18:56 PM | Message Detail
I was wondering if Cloud has a "semi" good chance to pull the upset over Link??

He has a very good chance to beat Link this year. There's no doubt about that one. The only people who think Link is a lock are those misguided people who will always say the winner the previous year will win the current year without trouble and the others who think Twilight Princess hype is somehow going to cancel out, or beat, Advent Children's release.

But I was just wondering if Cloud has any decent shot rather than a slim shot at beating Link ..

Picking Cloud over Link is not only a good choice, but the right choice.

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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:21:31 PM | Message Detail
I'm actually beginning to think that there may be a continual alternation from Link to Cloud. People who may not have voted in the previous year's final match or didn't care who won and voted for Link may decide to vote for Cloud instead, because, as we all know, the winner of the summer contest has "always won." There won't be any definite indication towards this until we see how Cloud performs against Link, though.

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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:22:23 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/14/2005 9:34:01 PM | Message Detail
Actually, ask your random Joe on another board, and you'll find many people who say Cloud won all three character battles. The spring contest highlighted just how misguided the general audience was, what with the "FF7 always wins" avalanche of topics, regardless of the fact that Link is the reigning champion.

Now, whether he'll defend or not is a whole new ball game. So far it's not Link and Cloud switching places, it's them constantly setting the bar higher, as shown by the consensus for X-Sts references: in 2003, Link stays the same and Cloud gets a boost, and in 2004 Cloud stays the same and Link gets a boost.

As for me, Link looked like such a beast last year I don't have the balls to pick against him, especially when almost 80% of the board picked him. Same for Samus in the main bracket.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth
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