I think Yuri and Manny will suffer bigger blowouts than Joanna, and probably Agent 47 as well. She should get to around 20%.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

I can see Joanna suffering some weird kind of SFF in the same way some of us think Goldeneye suffered some weird kind of SFF to LoZ:OoT...not necessarily alot, but enough to blame it on something.

I maintain that Manny and Neo-Tanner will be the two weakest though. Yuri, well, might be over Joanna...not sure.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

Joanna will be by far the best of the four, no question.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

Snake shouldn't have any problem breaking 90% on Manny, and Samus could do it against Yuri since all of about 5 people have played SH:C. Sora may have a problem due to anti-votes, but Neo Tanner may just be that weak.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

Chief will break 85% on CATS.

Haha, just kidding. I meant CATS will breat 85% on Chief.
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SC2K5 Elite Eight: Mario, Frog, Snake, Tidus, Crono, Knuckles, Sonic, Ocelot

btw way if snake breaks 90% on manny will he become the first char to break 90% twice on someone?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

Megaman did it as well. And in TWO CONSECUTIVE MATCHES to boot.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

Mega Man did it twice in a row in 2K2.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

XD
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

*high fives Slowflake*
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

And, if you want to associate Link with his games, he did it three times - AiAi, Adventure, and Gunstar Heroes.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

Colette Brunel.

From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/6/2005 12:42:18 AM | Message Detail
Colette tripping and falling is the most destructive force in the universe. But Colette herself is not the most powerful character.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Samus 87-13 Yuri
Snake 84-16 Manny
Sora 75-25 Agent 47
Mario 79-21 Joanna
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Supporter of Magus, Mario, Mega Man, and Kerrigan for sc2k5

Because I am bored, I have compiled a list of hero:villain relationships. This is not necessarily to be taken as an argument for Terra; just keep in mind that Kefka would get 40.64% on Dante :). I used the most recent appearance of the character in all cases.

Bowser would get 45.01% on Mario (thanks, Sp2k5!)
Sephiroth would get 40.27% on Cloud
M. Bison would get 35.49% on Ryu
Revolver Ocelot would get 35.37% on Solid Snake
Ramirez would get 35.21% on Vyse
Ganondorf would get 32.63% on Link
Vergil would get 32.15% on Dante
Liquid Snake would get 30.95% on Solid Snake
Ansem would get 30.67% on Sora
Andross would get 30.28% on Fox
Sin would get 29.7% on 2k4 Tidus
Wesker would get 29.62% on Jill
Albedo would get 29.57% on KOS-MOS
Dr. Wily would get 27.55% on Mega Man
Ridley would get 24.68% on Samus
Sin would get 23.58% on 2k3 Tidus*
Dr. Robotnik would get 22.5% on Sonic
Giygas would get 22.44% on Ness
Lavos would get 22.24% on Crono
Kuja would get 21.36% on Vivi
Sigma would get 21.15% on Zero (since there's no X...)
Mother Brain would get 18.96% on Samus
Officer Tenpenny would get 16.46% on Tommy Vercetti (close enough)

*Since we're so unsure about Tidus' ranking, I lied and did him twice.

The average, for anyone keeping score, is 28.6%.
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"I have ambitions beyond becoming a god, you know." ~ Lezard Valeth, Valkyrie Profile

so anyone think having qualifiying rounds for the contest is a good idea? might be the only way for CATS to win a match and will make sure strong characters like shadow the hedgehog get in the contest every year.of course the top 16 or top 32 should have an automatic entry to avoid noble niners facing each other before a contest
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

That would just drag the contest out. It's long enough as it is. Sure some fans may be upset if one of their characters don't get in, but there is MORE than enough interest drawn into the contest as is.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Qualifiying matches might help get rid of unacceptable fodder that keeps coming in.
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Supporter of Magus, Mario, Mega Man, and Kerrigan for sc2k5

To be honest, I think comparing the spring contest values with summer contest values to come to a conclusion in this summer contest isn't really reliable. Also, (now this is on the topic of Terra), most of those cases are ones where the villain is not developed or not really mentioned very much in the game. With that in mind, I decided to make a list on which pairings would be comparable to Terra vs. Kefka (there's no way I could make a list everyone would agree on, so there won't be much point in correcting this).

Bowser/Mario
Sephiroth/Cloud
Bison/Ryu
Ocelot/Snake
Ramirez/Vyse
Ganondorf/Link (only because of WW)
Vergil/Dante
Liquid Snake/Solid Snake
Wesker/Jill
Albedo/KOS-MOS
Dr. Wily/Mega Man
Kuja/Vivi
Sigma/Zero

Keep in mind that for some characters, I only have a vague idea of their significance.

For those values, approximately 32% is the average. Still, Spring Contest values worry me.

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*mourns past herding topics*

To be honest, I think comparing the spring contest values with summer contest values to come to a conclusion in this summer contest isn't really reliable.

The 79 people in the BOP that picked Bowser to win his division disagree with you. Anyway, I'm more or less finished arguing for Terra. If I haven't convinced you by now, I probably never will.
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"I have ambitions beyond becoming a god, you know." ~ Lezard Valeth, Valkyrie Profile

Yeah, these numbers are becoming pretty tiresome =[
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SC2K5 Elite Eight: Mario, Frog, Snake, Tidus, Crono, Knuckles, Sonic, Ocelot

From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/7/2005 10:12:47 AM | #369
To be honest, I think comparing the spring contest values with summer contest values to come to a conclusion in this summer contest isn't really reliable.

The 79 people in the BOP that picked Bowser to win his division disagree with you. Anyway, I'm more or less finished arguing for Terra. If I haven't convinced you by now, I probably never will.

I've already changed from Dante to Terra to Dante and back again.
I JUST DON'T KNOW...!

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*mourns past herding topics*

From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/7/2005 1:12:47 PM | #369
To be honest, I think comparing the spring contest values with summer contest values to come to a conclusion in this summer contest isn't really reliable.

The 79 people in the BOP that picked Bowser to win his division disagree with you. Anyway, I'm more or less finished arguing for Terra. If I haven't convinced you by now, I probably never will.

That doesn't mean diddly squat. I'm fairly certain every single one of these people wouldn't be surprised to see Ryu winning.

And for the record, I do think the spring results are complete BS.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

If I haven't convinced you by now, I probably never will.

Indeed. Terra vs. Dante has been discussed so much that you have pretty much chosen who you're taking for whatever reasons.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Can someone explain Magus/Squall to me, and why many people are picking Squall? I went with Magus in my bracket without really thinking about it, but I'd like to hear reasons behind this upset pick.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Many people? I have only seen a few choice people, including myself, actually taking that. Leonhart, TheCruelAngel, and... well, I haven't seen anyone else really voicing that they're taking it.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Because apparently the Spring Contest means nothing, Gannondorf is weak, Magus is weak, Tidus' 2k4 stats are actually close to where he is, and Squall is just prime for taking Magus down.

Apparently.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Because apparently the Spring Contest means nothing, Gannondorf is weak, Magus is weak, Tidus' 2k4 stats are actually close to where he is, and Squall is just prime for taking Magus down.

I want to know who in the world told you all of that was required for Squall to beat Magus. Because whoever did was a moron.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Because I feel that New-Square will have an inherent advantage over Old-Square. I don't know why... but it's my gut feeling.
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SC2K5 Elite Eight: Mario, Frog, Snake, Tidus, Crono, Knuckles, Sonic, Ocelot

I still refuse to actually look at the bracket I initially inputted until probably the day of lockdown. That way I will know exactly what I want, and if I originally had a match, I should probably go with my gut. The only thing I think I am going to end up changing is to Vincent>Dante, but CJ>Ness may also get flipped.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
YoBlazer(33) & Robotnik pwned my (Ro)butt in Sp2k5

Giggles...soon the noobs and fanbabies tears will begin to be shed...only a week and a half to go...

The Sage of Board 8's advice for today: Go your own way...Board 8 Peer Pressure is a crutch for the weak...
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Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Renowned Author, MK Master, Noob Basher & Fanbaby Smacker! Score: 0/0

From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/7/2005 2:27:20 PM | Message Detail
Can someone explain Magus/Squall to me, and why many people are picking Squall?

Because Heroic Mario just finished replaying Final Fantasy 8.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

On Terra/Dante: Since Vincent will beat the winner regardless, going for a reasonable 1 point upset is not a bad idea.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

On Terra/Dante: Since Vincent will beat the winner regardless, going for a reasonable 1 point upset is not a bad idea.

...

You're going to be very upset when Dante beats Vincent.
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"Heil Dweebenheimer!"
MasterMage119

I did it because Fisher and Luca "mysteriously dropped", along with Tidus. I don't think he'll drop as severely as Tidus did, because we all Mega Man is a "damn Square killer", and that he "X SFFed" Tidus in 2004.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

On FF6: The argument made for Crono's increases over the last few years have been roms.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Kefka gone up every year as well?

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

On Terra/Dante: Since Vincent will beat the winner regardless, going for a reasonable 1 point upset is not a bad idea.

Dante will beat Vincent......hopefully.
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Spring Contest 2005 - 68/80 points
"Not even death can save you from me" - Diablo

Next Spring should so be a Hero/Villain Tag Team Contest.

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

I'd like to see a Best Supporting Character contest. The theme's a bit odd, but a contest with only characters like Magus, Vincent, Auron, Zero, etc, would be pretty cool.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

I'd love to see a contest that Magus would rip through, so I'm all for it.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

My characters in WoW are coming along nicely.

"Lucidfaia," Tauren Warrior, Skullcrusher
"Deflagratio," Orc Rogue, Skullcrusher

Deflagratio is only Level 12 at the moment, but I already like this character a lot better than the others I've tried. I'll probably be spending the bulk of the next several days powerleveling him.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

What's the general consensus of strength when comparing Aeris to Tifa?

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

Tifa > Aeris > Vincent

Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

From what I've seen it's a pretty even split, but Aeris has a slight advantage.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

I don't know how Aeris and Tifa stack up, but they're both probably stronger than Vincent.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Oh, and I agree with Ulti's rating... but the consensus doesn't.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Another game contest would be hard as hell to predict. I would also like another Game Contest. Maybe in Summer instead of Spring. And in Spring...well that side-kick tourney sounds nice, although I like the idea of Villian/Hero tag team. I'd go with either of them.
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Support Vincent Valentine in the Character Contest!
swrd slsh attck yr ded--ertyu language

Supporting characters? Frog making it to the finals? *stamp of approval*
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SC2K5 Elite Eight: Mario, Frog, Snake, Tidus, Crono, Knuckles, Sonic, Ocelot

Hey, nobody has anything to comment on my suggesting that Terra may also end up being comparible to Yuna?

Also, I don't necessarily think Squall doesn't have a chance to beat Magus but I highly doubt it. I AM betting on Vincent pulling it off though. This board is very pro-Magus, so I'm not taking board opinion to heart. My simple reasoning is that I think that Vincent is stronger than Aeris. And Magus isn't THAT far in front of Aeris in the 2k3 stats that we love to still use to determine Magus's strength.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Hey, nobody has anything to comment on my suggesting that Terra may also end up being comparible to Yuna?

It's because you're right. I don't argue with right people =[
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SC2K5 Elite Eight: Mario, Frog, Snake, Tidus, Crono, Knuckles, Sonic, Ocelot

but the consensus doesn't.

The only debatable part of the inequality is Tifa > Aeris, and even that's a stretch. You have more time to get attached to Tifa than you do Aeris.

Anyone who thinks that Vincent is stronger than either of them is blinded by fanboyism and immune to reason (see: Heroic Mario). Vincent is a fan favorite who is there to look T3H BADAZZ and absolutely useless to the plot of the game. He also sucks in battle.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus