Oh, I see.

...So Vice City sold more overseas than in the States? You sure about that?

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Between Europe and Japan? Yes, it's not hard to believe two territories combined to sell more than one.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Japan's sales of GTA are basically negliable. I believe it never breaks more than 150.000 there.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

It just seems odd to me. GTA doesn't seem like a game that would sell millions upon millions outside of America. I could be wrong though.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

I could imagine GTA doing well in Europe.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

It does do well in Europe. I think its by far the #1 game.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Japan's sales of GTA are basically negliable. I believe it never breaks more than 150.000 there.

Japan is not interested in GTA nearly as much as America or Europe, but it sells far more than that.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

As a side-note, I'd play the hell out of a GTA game based in Tokyo.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

Yikes your right. Vice City sold around 500,000. I would of never expected that.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Vercetti kicks so much ass.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostea Din Tei for Trivia XV

I think this might be the first (and probably only) time I'll be rooting for Vercetti to win anything...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I ain't a big fan of Vercetti or anything, but I have only rooted against him when he faced DK and Mega Man. Against Kefka, eh...I'm indifferent.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

I have never rooted for Vercetti, but will now. Since Kefka is lame and I have Vercetti in my bracket.

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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.

I'm mostly rooting for Vercetti to see if this board will go up in flames worse than it did when Squall beat Luigi.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I'm voting and rooting for Vercetti as well. It would be a great justice to see Kefka lose that match.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

It's hard to imagine the board goin' worse than it did then, heh. Only if Vercetti/Kefka's decided by, say, less than 500 votes could that happen...

...with that said, I'm rooting for the next MC/Frog. =)
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

Actually, Tidus over Snake could probably rival Squall/Luigi...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Very true...very true. That's scary how possible that is, too.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

Actually, Tidus over Snake could probably rival Squall/Luigi...

That would outdo Squall/Luigi
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Trainer: Clinkeroth, do mega fanboy attack!
Clinkeroth: CLINKEROTH! ~Pibb of Truth

Regardless, the Dream Division has too many of my favorite characters, and then the winner faces Snake, another one of my favorites. It's really hard to root for any particular one.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Ya know, looking at how the outrage was for Squall/Luigi, Tidus/Bowser could be equally bad or worse. Pretty confident the board's opinion is Squall > Tidus and Bowser >or= Luigi...then Tidus/Bowser would be alot closer than Squall/Luigi, too.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

The only one of my favorites put in the position to put a dent in this contest is Bowser. One could make an argument for Sonic, but him beating Tifa wouldn't cause THAT much of an uproar. And I doubt he will beat Mega Man, so Sonic's performance will probably be meh at best.

Zero and Knuckles were completely shafted in this contest. What a waste.... Zero should have been placed somewhere in the Devil division. Knux would have been better off in Kratos'(GoW) spot (although Knux/Snake looms in front of him again) or Laharl's position (Knux/Yoshi is okay).
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Imagine switching Zero and Kerrigan.....
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

I have Ryu(SF) winning his division. I think he can beat Bowser. Then he'll go on to face Snake then lose but, that gives Ryu his first elite 8 appearance I believe.
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Rock Man, you will always be a champ in my eyes. One day you will win.

Sign me up for the Guru Contest if you're taking signups yet.
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HOT AND SEXY Spring and Summer Contest action!!!:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

omg its MMX!!1
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Trainer: Clinkeroth, do mega fanboy attack!
Clinkeroth: CLINKEROTH! ~Pibb of Truth

From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/3/2005 4:05:53 PM | #214
I'm mostly rooting for Vercetti to see if this board will go up in flames worse than it did when Squall beat Luigi.

Seriously doubt it. The board went up in flames that time because nobody, NOBODY, expected it. Kefka may be the most popular upset pick in the entire contest (once again, I ask, how?), but Vercetti winning is at least expected, if uncool.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

I expect Magus/Squall to cause a large uproar no matter who wins.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

Kefka/Vercetti is expected to be a 55/45 affair, which is plenty close for bias to intervene.
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"I have ambitions beyond becoming a god, you know." ~ Lezard Valeth, Valkyrie Profile

Call me crazy, but I'm starting to get a teeny bit worried about Knuckles. Every time I look at the numbers, it keeps getting more and more likely that Knuckles will come close to Magus.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Get close? Maybe, but that match is still decided no matter how you look at it.

*awaits Tai to bring up Magus/Crono and such* =P
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

If Magus loses to Squall, I'll finally play FFVIII.
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Light is but a farewell gift from the darkness to those on their way to die. ~The Boss
ZSB [aX]

I'll finally play FFVIII.

It'd be better than the recent playing of any Metal Gear game.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Call me crazy, but I'm starting to get a teeny bit worried about Knuckles. Every time I look at the numbers, it keeps getting more and more likely that Knuckles will come close to Magus.

You're crazy.

Seriously though, Knuckles and Magus are both pretty consistent, and Magus has 10% on him.
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

...except for MGS, MGS2, and MGS3, right?
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Light is but a farewell gift from the darkness to those on their way to die. ~The Boss
ZSB [aX]

Just a thought... you know how the ToC Sephiroth match lists "2005 champ"? Well, in the event that someone picks 2005 champ to win, would they get the points regardless of who beats Seph in the event of that upset, or only if the character they picked as champion does?
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

Very good question. I'd guess regardless, but I'm not sure.
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

I'm not sure either... I don't know why Ceej didn't just have it replace 2K5 champ with whoever you have winning, like every other match does when you choose the winner from the match before.
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"Heil Dweebenheimer!"
MasterMage119

...except for MGS, MGS2, and MGS3, right?

There are no exceptions, obviously. FFVIII is far greater than anything with "Metal Gear" in the title.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

KNUCKLES may be pretty consistent. Magus? We have NO idea... Knuckles would never get 34% on Link though...

*Feels like starting something*

For all we know, Magus may have been to Link what Frog was to Snake. Massive bandwagon support for a popular character new to the contest. Discuss. <_<
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Just out of curiosity, what was your opinion of FFVIII two months ago, before you re-played it?
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Light is but a farewell gift from the darkness to those on their way to die. ~The Boss
ZSB [aX]

That it was a good game; it had its flaws and it still has the same flaws.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Magus is consistent in that the stats were adjusted to make him look consistent. >_>

Really though, the amount Crono SFFed him was roughly equal to the amount Mario SFFed Bowser, which given the relative strengths of Crono and Mario seems to indicate that Magus was pretty consistent, at least in reference to Bowser.

Assuming, of course, that Chrono Trigger SFF and Mario SFF are roughly equal... <_<
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

Speaking of Magus, he lost points in my book for ALLOWING Crono to SFF him to that degree. You would think that someone who did so well against Link would be strong enough to prevent getting SFFed. The Crono/Magus relationship ended up being more like Link/Ganondorf than Cloud/Sephiroth. I wonder if that would play any factor in his matches against Squall or Vincent?
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Well I certainly agree with you there; but Ganondorf and Bowser were both SFFed even more, so I don't think it detracts from him too much.
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

Of course remembering what Cloud did to Squall and Auron, I take all of that back... <_< Magus is a big question mark to me.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

... How in the hell did she get a 4 seed? I didn't think she would get any better than 10 (and probably worse), even if she did manage to make it in.

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Flee back to your masters, Aldaris, and huddle with them in darkness! For your actions shall set us all unto the Zerg! ~ Tassadar

Seriously though, Knuckles and Magus are both pretty consistent, and Magus has 10% on him.

Well, we don't have sure-fire proof that he ISN'T consistent...but he's more than arguable.

It'd be better than the recent playing of any Metal Gear game.

FF8 better be one of the greatest games ever conceived then. Not just gameplay-wise, either; the game better have the ability to turn anything it touches into gold.

...except for MGS, MGS2, and MGS3, right?

Don't forget MGS: VR Missions. =P Haven't played MGS3 yet, but MGS1/2 ruled.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

"And I know what site you're talking about. NPD hit them with illegally using their data without permission. They were forced to take it down. It's a shame."

I know, losing that site sucked hardcore.
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Yoblazer just kicked my ass!