'Kay, never mind, I somehow missed them in the links. Got them now. <_<

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**Congratulations Naye745: Most closely predicted the release of the Summer Contest 2005 Bracket**

It's not as outrageous as you're making it out to be. In sports, people will often support the winner of their division, even if they're not a team that they particular like, simply because they're representing their division. Same with franchise voting.

are you kidding me? if the Packers knock out the Bears, Vikings and Lions out of playoff contention, there is no way in hell than any fans of those three teams are gonna turn around and cheer for the Packers. if anything, they would cheer even more for whoever the Packers are playing against next. that's a horrible example.

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Yoblazer is officially THE MAN for beating us all in SpC2K5!!

Incidentally, where are the all-time stats? I can't seem to find them.

First post of the topic. BIG BOLD LETTERS.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Watch out for them Ravens.

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Bigpun and the Spurs PWNED me in the ass, and I'm not JUST talking about the court. TEE HEE *blushes*

Vikings are far better then the Bears! They are on awesome form and their star.... Attack guy is really dangerous when given room and stuff.

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Smurf , the cream of sonic fanboyism

What was that about human nature?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=848

Wtf?

Find a poll with only 2 options and it'll show better results.
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17 handhelds Nintendo has taken down 1 more to go (see quote for rest)

a movie based on arguably the most popular game of all time.

Don't make me laugh. FF7 isn't even the most popular RPG.

Is not Final Fantasy 7. I think that it's Myst, but don;t quote me on that.

There's this game from way back in the day. It's called Super Mario Brothers. Ever heard of it?

I detest, and I meant detest the Patriots, but lost my voice cheering for them in the Super Bowl. I hate the Eagles that much, and the fact that the game was close made their loss even better. Nothing to do with the topic, but it was still fun to root for a team that wound up winning, for once.

If McNabb hadn't come down with something, it would have been a different story. But as much as you hate the Eagles, you have to admit that Terrell Owens' performance was nothing short of heroic.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

848, that was GameFAX Day, right?
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

Don't make me laugh. FF7 isn't even the most popular RPG.

XD
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Smurf , the cream of sonic fanboyism

XD, I was agreeing with you. Because all the options are the same, and the first choice was selected more than any other one.

I doubt I can find another poll with only two choices, both chocies being identical.

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

I could have sworn that Myst had more sales than Mario 1. Glad I was corrected on that.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Clearly, if Ganon and Bowser got such large boosts for representing their respective series, then Liquid Snake should not have underperformed by 10% against the same character the Ganon and Bowser allegedly overperformed against.

Ulti just won the argument. Let it end.

It's not like it's 64 characters, and you have to choose one in a giant free for all. Hell if it was, CATS would have a shot at winning.

...ya know, that's actually true. A good shot, no less.


My senior year in high school (2003 season), our football team had to face the state runner-ups from the year before...and we lost, hard. We still rooted for them though, all the way to the state championship...and they won it, too. Heh, it just depends on how good of a sport you are sometimes.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

Counting bundled sales, SMB has over 40 million copies out. The only single game that can come close to that is Tetris, if I remember correctly.

I don't know why Smurf finds my comment amusing. It's the truth.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

When I made the statement I was well aware of other games selling better than it, and the first game that came to mind when I said it was actually Super Mario Bros. It was more or less for emphasis.

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

I could have sworn that Myst had more sales than Mario 1. Glad I was corrected on that.

...Myst isn't even in the Top 10 highest selling games, much less number one. Myst sold some 9 million copies whereas SMB, packaged with the NES, of course, sold 40.1 million.

The highest selling game to date, not packaged with a console at launch, is Super Mario Bros. 3 with 18 million copies. Just for future reference.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

I did however think that FF7 was the highest selling RPG of all time.

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

Final Fantasy VII is indeed the highest selling RPG of all-time.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

XD, I was agreeing with you. Because all the options are the same, and the first choice was selected more than any other one.

I doubt I can find another poll with only two choices, both chocies being identical.

I knew that

>_>

<_<
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17 handhelds Nintendo has taken down 1 more to go (see quote for rest)

What's second? I would have thought some PC game would be...
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

I did however think that FF7 was the highest selling RPG of all time.

I want to be the very best, like no one ever was...

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Final Fantasy VII is indeed the highest selling RPG of all-time.

HOORAY AT ME NOT FAILING!

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

In other words, I'm pretty sure a few Pokemon games sold better than FF7.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

To catch them is my real quest ^^
Didn't Diablo 2 also sell as much as FF7, or am I just confused?

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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.

Actually, Lucid brought up Pokemon, which never strikes me as an RPG despite the fact it is. But after Pokemon, or sticking with consoles, FFVII takes that title -- obviously, not the title.

What's second? I would have thought some PC game would be...

Pokemon Yellow.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Oh snap.

Yeah, I kinda forgot about that little enigma of Pokemon. But damn... now I'm confused.

Usually HM is right about everything involving raw facts, and wrong about everything involving educated guesses.

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

Didn't Diablo 2 also sell as much as FF7, or am I just confused?

No, not at all. The Diablo series has sold around 11 million units while FFVII, alone, sold 10 million.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

That's surprising. Are Red and Blue counted separately?
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Mega Man will win the Summer Contest, Alistair Overeem will win the Grand Prix, and Dr. Lampowitz will find the cure.

Seems I was wrong then, but I did remember reading something about Diablo 2 in Guiness <_<
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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.

What was that about human nature?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=848

You know, that's actually extremely interesting. Heck, that may even offer evidence that the top character has a slight advantage.

Anyone know where that poll is about answering the poll of the day truthfully?

are you kidding me? if the Packers knock out the Bears, Vikings and Lions out of playoff contention, there is no way in hell than any fans of those three teams are gonna turn around and cheer for the Packers. if anything, they would cheer even more for whoever the Packers are playing against next. that's a horrible example.

Again, it doesn't always work. Yes, that's a bad example. But take the NHL, and Canada. Canadians will nearly always support the last Canadian team, even if it's not one they particularly like otherwise.

Clearly, if Ganon and Bowser got such large boosts for representing their respective series, then Liquid Snake should not have underperformed by 10% against the same character the Ganon and Bowser allegedly overperformed against.

Ulti just won the argument. Let it end.

Once again, there are other explanations -- for instance, the MGS series in general decreasing is possible (and Liquid wasn't the only MGS character either). Also, the whole Frog vs. Snake match with the terrible picture. Franchise voting is not a mutually exclusive idea. It leaves room for other anamolies as well. Ulti, didn't you yourself say in your Cloud/Mario analysis that on any given day, voting swings can go any which way given the proper situation (not your exact words, obviously)? Just because franchise voting doesn't adequately explain everything, such as Liquid Snake decreasing, doesn't mean that it's made invalid -- there are other explanations out there that go with it.

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**Congratulations Naye745: Most closely predicted the release of the Summer Contest 2005 Bracket**

Oh, Diablo II probably had the Guinness World Record for "Most Addictive Game Ever Made."

Yeah, we never think of "RPG" when we think of Pokemon, but it is indeed an RPG, and it's easily the most popular RPG series ever, with Yellow being the top single title in the series.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Here is my question. If Ganondorf overperformed because Link wasnt there, why would he not overperform in the summer for THE EXACT SAME REASON.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow all sold over 10 mill (red/blue sold 24 mill. together). I'm not 100% sure, but I think GTA: VC, GTA3 and The Sims are the only non Nintendo games to have sold over 10 mill. (GTA: SA and Halo 2 will probably also be there soon)
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17 handhelds Nintendo has taken down 1 more to go (see quote for rest)

Anyone know where that poll is about answering the poll of the day truthfully?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1500

You mean this one?
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Highland general (and Heavy Champion) Seed makes his Godlike debut - can he take down the mighty Fou-Lu? Find out at www.rpgdl.com!

Are Red and Blue counted separately?

Of course. They were sold separately, they were marketed separately, and they will be counted separately. One should never combine the sales of Pokemon games and then say they sold more than some other title.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Here is my question. If Ganondorf overperformed because Link wasnt there, why would he not overperform in the summer for THE EXACT SAME REASON.

Actually, I hadn't even thought of that. I suppose it really depends on whether or not the average voter will consider the Tournament of Champions to be part of the contest or not.

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**Congratulations Naye745: Most closely predicted the release of the Summer Contest 2005 Bracket**

Indeed. Pokemon Red sold 13.5 million and Pokemon Blue sold 12.9 million. The series still puts up over a million with every release, but the amount they sell has obviously slowed down significantly.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Weren't all three GTA games around 5 million in sales?

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

In America alone. GTA:VC sold 13.4 million copies.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

Halo 2 has slowed down to the point its doubtful it will crack 10 million especially with XBox 360 release coming up, I dont know about GTA:SA though.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Vice City had over 6 million in the US alone, the others are a little above 5 million in the US. So worldwide it's safe to say they sold a lot more then 5 million.
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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1500

You mean this one?

No, it was this one:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1516

Now, obviously one shouldn't put too much stock in this poll, but it does show that a significant number of people do vote certain ways for rather strange reasons.

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**Congratulations Naye745: Most closely predicted the release of the Summer Contest 2005 Bracket**

Wow HM, your data is really different then mine 0_o
According to Game developer magazine, Vice City is the best selling game in the US with 6,3. It's hard to imagine them being off by almost 7 million...

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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.

Wow, that first phrase was worded pretty badly, that's what you get when English is not your mother language I guess ^^

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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.

Here is my question. If Ganondorf overperformed because Link wasnt there, why would he not overperform in the summer for THE EXACT SAME REASON.

The answer is quite simple, actually. Voting patterns in a villain contest will not be the same as in a normal one. Snake wasn't there this spring, yet Liquid dropped like a rock anyway.
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SC2K5 bracket: Samus over Snake, Crono over Megaman, Samus over Crono; Link over Sephiroth

The answer is quite simple, actually. Voting patterns in a villain contest will not be the same as in a normal one.

There, Slowflake agrees with me. I must be right! *_*

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**Congratulations Naye745: Most closely predicted the release of the Summer Contest 2005 Bracket**

In America alone. GTA:VC sold 13.4 million copies.

My ass. Where did you hear this?

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Well SA reached 6 million in about 3 months so I doubt your numbers are right.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Wow HM, your data is really different then mine 0_o

That was in response to what Lucid said. He said something about 5 million and I said, "In America alone" and gave the actual number it has sold.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

All the numbers I have stated are worldwide figures, people.

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“Yeah, sure. I always see it. But… who cares? I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”
Laguna Loire

The answer is quite simple, actually. Voting patterns in a villain contest will not be the same as in a normal one. Snake wasn't there this spring, yet Liquid dropped like a rock anyway.

And I dont believe that for a second. There is no reason for that to be the case when you cant tell me the great majority of people would still vote for who they like the best, not who they thought was the best at doing evil-doing.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia