Arthas >= Kerrigan

I highly doubt it.
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Revolver is beginning to pass M. Bison!
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A little late there.
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Why not?

Arthas is the central villian in WC3 and the Frozen Throne.

Kerrigan doesn't really become the central villian until in Brood War. The villian is simply the overmind to start off with.

Also, WC3 is more fresh in people's minds so one can make the argument that Arthas would benefit from that.

Plus, as someone stated, he looks like Sephiroth so that always accounts for something.

Not my fault RPGuy keeps trying to beat me.
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I prefer Arthas over Kerrigan, even though they are basically the same prototype of a character. Yet, Arthas change isnt just artificial, but they actually play up to him getting more deranged.
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I didn't know who Arthas was by name, but upon hearing he was the guy from Warcraft III, I would probably pick him over Kerrigan.
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Arthas' story is more tragic on an overall level while Kerrigan's is more tragic on a personal level.

Arthas had everything going for him and was nearly in his prime with a bright future and it all came crashing down because he was consumed by his lust for revenge.

Kerrigan was a tortured soul who acted on her painful past when given the opportunity.

And regardless of how you look at it, the gap between Bowser and Ganondorf isn't as large as it appeared in 2003, which is a very good thing.

Sure. I can deal with Bowser's increase from 2003 or 2004, because it makes sense for him to have an increase of some kind. But I still enjoy Ganon being ahead of him.

I think: Diablo > Arthas >= Kerrigan

I would say that Kerrigan > Diablo > Arthas, myself. This is based upon how I think they would do in a character contest, just to clarify.

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Don't forget that Arthas can also own stupid Night Elf Blademasters in less than 5 seconds.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

I seriously doubt Kerrigan is stronger than Diablo. Out of the three, he's more than likely the strongest.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Kerrigan and Arthas have no shot at being as popular as Diablo.
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Blizzard characters that I would like to see in the Summer Contest include Arthas, Illidan, Diablo, Kerrigan, and Zeratul, but I'd be lucky if even two of them got in.
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"I won't just be a memory..." - Sephiroth

Kerrigan and Arthas have no shot at being as popular as Diablo.

I'd love to hear a more detailed explanation on why they cannot, specifically Kerrigan.

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Do you really need to keep switching accounts, cronton/darcy? Pick one and stick with it. There's no need to agree with yourself on every point you make.
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It has something to do with the games not being called "Kerrigan" and "Arthas" and the single-player being cared about less than the multi-player. This is enough to force them below Diablo.

There will be no convincing this of you, because you are unconvinible.
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"Because the game isn't called KerriganCraft."

Meh, I haven't played any of the games so I can't say anything from experience. I wouldn't expect her to be stronger than Diablo.
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Diablo has been in more games than Kerrigan and Arthas and the fact that the game is named directly after him helps as well. Factor in as well, that in both the single player and multiplayer portions of the game, you are making your way towards Diablo in hopes of beating him. That is the goal from the start. It's already set and you have to achieve it. Diablo is imprinted into players minds from the beginning.

Kerrigan and Arthas become villians of their respective games and they aren't involved in the multiplayer.

Do you really need to keep switching accounts, cronton/darcy? Pick one and stick with it.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was getting a little annoyed with that.

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One thing I noticed is Blizzard isnt exactly the most creative of writers, Warcraft III plot is WAY too similiar to Starcraft's plot.
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Lavos and Vergil may potentially sneak ahead of Ansem before this poll is done.
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I don't want to say this, but yoblazer's making me for him pwning me in the Guru Contest! *grumble*

Also, assuming the same first round art, any StarCraft hero will most likely be relying on name recognition alone.
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"I won't just be a memory..." - Sephiroth

Thats the one thing that could help Kerrigan and Arthas. They are the art for the expansion packs.
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^PLOT TWIST
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It has something to do with the games not being called "Kerrigan" and "Arthas" and the single-player being cared about less than the multi-player. This is enough to force them below Diablo.

Oh, freakin' spare me. I cannot believe people are still putting that much behind the game being called "Diablo" thus drastically helping Diablo out in this contest. Kerrigan and Arthas both play a more prominent and active role in their games than Diablo does in his. Hell, you can go so far as to control both of them in the game. The only advantage that Diablo has over those two is the fact he's named after his game, but I've made it abundantly clear how I think that helps out a character.

You're acting like no one has ever gone through the StarCraft or WarCraft campaign. Sure, the big thing about both of those games is the multiplayer, but the very same thing can be said about Halo 2. Master Chief is very strong despite his game being focused around multiplayer and his name doesn't appear in any title.

There will be no convincing this of you, because you are unconvinible.

You just have to provide more convincing evidence. I've already argued that one point to death against many other people before.

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Yoblazer: I'm about three things: kicking ass; taking names; and winning GameFAQs contests.

You play as MC clones in the multiplayer, the picture gives him away. Thats why I think the Arbiter could be a decent character too.
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^ANOTHER PLOT TWIST
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I don't want to say this, but yoblazer's making me for him pwning me in the Guru Contest! *grumble*

You play as MC clones in the multiplayer, the picture gives him away. Thats why I think the Arbiter could be a decent character too.

So, Master Chief is getting his votes based upon his picture?

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Yoblazer: I'm about three things: kicking ass; taking names; and winning GameFAQs contests.

What saying the name of a character in the game is a plot twist?

Also the Arthas thing isnt a plot twist when you can see it coming within 10 minutes of start up.
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Well if anyone who didnt recognize him by that name would surely recognize the picture and go "Oh thats the guy from Halo"
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Yoblazer made me look like Tanner in the Guru Contest.

You can make it as abundantly clear as you want as to what you feel game name = character name really does, there will just always be a large portion of us that believe it to be a bigger factor than you do. It does not make either of us wrong, btw, just merely creates a very difficult playing field on which to discuss such matters as Kerrigan vs. Diablo, which I personally think would be a fairly decent route for the Lord of Terror.

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The Light is my strength. I trust in the Light.

There's no way he'd ever become evil with quotes like that!
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So, Master Chief is getting his votes based upon his picture?

His image is probably more well-known than his name.
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Warcraft III had some of the best quotes ever. The one about Zeratul had me laughing for a few minutes.
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Master Chief is very strong despite his game being focused around multiplayer and his name doesn't appear in any title.

*points to Liquid Snake*
Master Chief may not be as strong as you might think.
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Well if anyone who didnt recognize him by that name would surely recognize the picture and go "Oh thats the guy from Halo"

But if the game is focused around the multiplayer, then a significant portion of his votes would have to be "Oh, that's the guy from Halo," which is based upon his picture. I have to disagree with that. Games that are focused around multiplayer do not mean that no one has bothered to play the single player. This is a case where StarCraft has sold somewhere in the neighboorhood of 10 million copies worldwide. There doesn't have to be a large majority of them to play the single player in order for Kerrigan to be a strong competitor - stronger than Diablo.

Kerrigan and Arthas both are capable of being stronger for being a far more prominent figure in both of their games. I'm not saying anything about their character, but simply that they are far more active and apparent to the player than Diablo is. All of their games are very popular and sold extremely well, too. So none of that is a problem.


You can make it as abundantly clear as you want as to what you feel game name = character name really does, there will just always be a large portion of us that believe it to be a bigger factor than you do.

I'm not saying that it isn't a factor at all, but it certainly is not a major factor in his or anyone's strength. There are many characters in this contest who are not named after their series and are far stronger and more popular than Diablo. He may very well benefit from having that little bit, but I wouldn't account that for a large portion of his strength.

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Yep, Liquid puts that entire four pack in doubt, especially with Sephiroth looking even weaker than last year. I have no idea what to make of that.
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Well what happenend is Mega Man SFFd Link.

Yeah I said it. >_> <_<
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Yoblazer made me look like Tanner in the Guru Contest.

His image is probably more well-known than his name.

Someone could say the same thing about Link if you got down to it.

*points to Liquid Snake*
Master Chief may not be as strong as you might think.

I feel that is a problem solely dealing with Liquid Snake. I don't believe Master Chief or Frog would suffer from his extremely lackluster performance. That's just me, but I think there's something with him and not the other two. They may not be as high as that, but they certainly aren't going to drop down like Liquid would have.

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Yoblazer: I'm about three things: kicking ass; taking names; and winning GameFAQs contests.

Still HM you cant say it doesnt help MC that you play as him in both modes.
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Liquid's absolute beating of Tenpenny makes it even more puzzling. Tenpenny is the only character projected to get under 10% on Sephiroth in the entire contest, and will probably end up placing 130th out of 135 all time. And his game just won GotY here last year. I know games != characters, but that's absurd.
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There is virtually no chance of Kerrigan or Arthas being stronger than Diablo. Saying otherwise is borderline insanity.
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There is virtually no chance of Kerrigan or Arthas being stronger than Diablo. Saying otherwise is borderline insanity.

Agreed.

By the way, it's looking pretty good for soniclink15.

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You know how many people who own GTA:SA actually play the main quest? Less than half, I say. Even less pay attention, they just want the cool cars/weapons/houses.
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Well, you see, to get the cool cars/weapons/houses/features, you have to actually play through the main quest. I bet most people don't finish it, but yes, they have to play it.

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Yeah, but he's looking worse than Resetti, AiAi, Captain Olimar, Gabe Logan...well, I could go on. But I find that very strange. Then again, Kuja would apparently struggle against JC Denton, which I find stranger, so perhaps I should just not worry about common sense.
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If it matters, an obscene number of UMS games use Kerrigan in some way, as a unit if not specifically by name as well. Which is just gravy when added to the already stated and enormous fact that Kerrigan=BW campaign.

For that matter you can use the same argument for Arthas. I might be inclined to give Kerrigan a leg up over Arthas overeall, but I think both of them have a good chance of being as strong as Mr. Big, Red, and Nasty.
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"but I think both of them have a good chance of being as strong as Mr. Big, Red, and Nasty."

Kirby?
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None other.
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There is virtually no chance of Kerrigan or Arthas being stronger than Diablo. Saying otherwise is borderline insanity.

What the hell, creative? There is nothing even remotely "insane" about thinking Kerrigan or Arthas could be stronger than Diablo. You act like there isn't anything that would help them do so or that Diablo has a large number of advantages when he clearly does not.

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