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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 136
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 3:55:26 PM | Message Detail
Why wouldn't he? Robo's doing worse than Ansem on a common opponent, after all. I'd probably still pick Robo > CATS unless Robotnik falls too far, but why is there some idea that a weak character like CATS can't win a match no matter the opponent? Look at Serious Sam, for crying out loud: he's ranked 106 out of the 109 characters that have even been in a contest and he still won a match.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: rpgapzx | Posted: 5/30/2005 3:56:20 PM | Message Detail
50k.
76.34%

Ganondorf 76.34% 50000
Dr. Robotnik 23.66% 15497
TOTAL VOTES 65497



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Spring Contest 2k5 Score X Potential: 40/44 X 76/80
Pick: Ganon Vote: Eggman
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 3:56:45 PM | Message Detail
And not only did Serious Sam win, he broke 60%.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: Gooper Blooper | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:00:41 PM | Message Detail
106? Lemme guess: 107 is Mr. Driller, 108 is Dirk the Daring, and 109 is Tanner, right?
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From: BeTheMan | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:02:10 PM | Message Detail
Sam ended up under 60, but...anyway, I wholeheartedly agree that CATS is capable of beating a very weak character. I just can't fathom how Robotnik could possibly fall into the same category as a Luca Blight. And yes, I know what the stats say today, but that doesn't make it any easier to believe.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO CATS
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:03:05 PM | Message Detail
Dirk, Sam, Ms. Pac Man,, Driller, Tanner. Ms. Pac Man also delivers the point that you can be extremely well known (like Robotnik), and still lose by ridiculous amounts.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: Bazza | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:03:17 PM | Message Detail
I honestly don't remember Mario beating Cloud... :o\
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:06:49 PM | Message Detail
I declare shenanigans on this contest. SOMETHING is different about it, whether it's voting tendencies or whatever.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:08:14 PM | Message Detail
Shenanigans!!

*runs around in hysterics*
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:10:36 PM | Message Detail
It's going to be fun to insert some of these guys into the all time list, that's for sure. Sigma falling under Chop Chop Master Onion, Kuja under JC Denton, Andross under Goemon, CATS above Terry Bogard...
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:11:38 PM | Message Detail
...Chop Chop Master Onion?!

*reads that post again*

CHOP CHOP MASTER ONION!

SHENANIGANS!
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:13:40 PM | Message Detail
Well, the CCMO in the all time list is based on my adjustments for Cloud, which are probably not accurate, though I couldn't tell you whether they're too high or too low. I have him at 12.86%; Sigma through 2k3 Bowser is at 12.8%.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:16:28 PM | Message Detail
Anyway, hopefully this showing and the next two matches for Ganondorf will quiet concerns about the Magus/Ganondorf/Tidus trio being overrated.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: swirldude | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:18:45 PM | Message Detail
If CATS did that well against Robotnik I'd jump on a cliff. Unfortunately, on this site, that can definetly happen.
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I don't want to say this, but yoblazer's making me for him pwning me in the Guru Contest! *grumble*
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:19:47 PM | Message Detail
Comparing Ms. Pac-Man to Robotnik is just...wrong, somehow. This just doesn't make a lick of sense. We've had four other Sonic characters in this tournament perform solidly, and then Robotnik came in and won his first two matches comfortably enough to avoid having any of us think of him as garbage. And now we're supposed to believe that a four-pack consisting of two main bosses from Final Fantasy titles, the final "boss" of one of the most popular series of fighting games to ever hit the consoles, and perhaps the most single-fought enemy in the history of video games all rank below an aging internet fad? I. Do. Not. Buy. It. There's something seriously wrong with this picture, somewhere.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO CATS
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:20:00 PM | Message Detail
Well, what if Bowser does better than Ganon?
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:21:28 PM | Message Detail
Gannon needs to get 62-38 on Diablo to get him up to a level where I think the stats didnt overestimate that four pack.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:21:37 PM | Message Detail
I'm not convinced of Ganon being at his 2003 strenght yet, the only character in Buttnik's four pack I have a hard time beliving that their that weak is Kuja.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:27:14 PM | Message Detail
Gannon needs to get 62-38 on Diablo to get him up to a level where I think the stats didnt overestimate that four pack.

I'm not convinced of Ganon being at his 2003 strenght yet, the only character in Buttnik's four pack I have a hard time beliving that their that weak is Kuja.

Pyramid Head > Kuja, Tom Nook > Master Hand, Earthworm Jim > Sin, Tina Armstrong > Dr. Robotnik. That's what you're telling me. Incidentally, Diablo [Kefka] would be expected to get 35.68% on 2k3 Ganondorf. We shall see.

Well, what if Bowser does better than Ganon?

I don't think it's out of the question that Bowser got a nice little boost, though I don't think it will be enough to cover the 4% between him and Ganondorf. Again, we shall see. Seph/Bowser is tomorrow, after all.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:29:12 PM | Message Detail
Pyramid Head > Kuja, Tom Nook > Master Hand, Earthworm Jim > Sin, Tina Armstrong > Dr. Robotnik.

Earthworm Jim and Tina winning those matches isen't too far fected actually.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:30:36 PM | Message Detail
I've said I thought Bowser could have gotten a boost before the contest started. I don't think it's out of the question he's stronger than Ganon. Just seems like common sense to me.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:33:02 PM | Message Detail
Sephiroth came up .06% short of tying Link's record for largest blowout in a divisional final. Ganondorf's ahead got the record by .41% right now.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:35:17 PM | Message Detail
Kuja [CATS] has fallen under TV Kane.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:42:31 PM | Message Detail
I feel fairly confident that Sephiroth will be shattering both the Final Four record and then the Title Game record. Kinda funny that he won't have the Elite Eight record. Imagine if Robotnik and Liquid had been switched...

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:46:49 PM | Message Detail
We'd be looking at 80% if Robotnik had faced Sephy instead.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:49:49 PM | Message Detail
80%? Robotnik would be under Sly Cooper.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:50:23 PM | Message Detail
Does anyone here still believe in beating threshholds? As in how, say, Ganondorf is beating Robotnik with 76.4%, and Sephiroth is exstrapolatedly expected to get, say, 84% on him, but only gets, say 78%, for whatever reason.

I personally still think they exist, but perhaps it only makes sense in my little head...
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 4:52:58 PM | Message Detail
Sephiroth is infamous for overperforming, not underperforming (except against Cloud).
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:05:52 PM | Message Detail
There is something horribly wrong with this contest. Horribly, horribly wrong.

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From: Garsha | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:08:53 PM | Message Detail
These contests just contradict themselves. Let's just leave it at that.
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From: Starion | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:13:47 PM | Message Detail
I thought you would be happy with this result HM. Just assume the weirdness is due to small sample size.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:14:44 PM | Message Detail
In my mind, this contest proves the lack of transitivity.

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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:15:07 PM | Message Detail
Oh, I do love what Ganon is doing today and I can only hope tha the continues to raise in percentage. But seeing so many characters belows CATS makes me raise an eyebrow.

But yeah, I love how well Ganon is doing today. It completely makes up for the previous round.

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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:16:44 PM | Message Detail
Kuja looks like a contender for the weakest character.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:32:58 PM | Message Detail
Ganondorf 76.5% 54793
Dr. Robotnik 23.5% 16833
TOTAL VOTES 71626

There it is. CATS > Robotnik.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:34:11 PM | Message Detail
SHENANIGANS!
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From: Tai | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:36:30 PM | Message Detail
It's offical, Eggdead.

All Your Base Are Belong To Us.

You Have No Chance, Make Your Bots And Prepare For Ultimate Ridicule And Laughter At J00.

Ha..Ha..Ha..Ha.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:37:17 PM | Message Detail
It's offical, Eggdead.

All Your Base Are Belong To Us.

You Have No Chance, Make Your Bots And Prepare For Ultimate Ridicule And Laughter At J00.

Ha..Ha..Ha..Ha.


CATS > Robotnik > Sin
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: meche313 | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:37:50 PM | Message Detail
XD
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RPG/Square character /= instant win. Robotnik has proved such and owned my ass.
From: rpgapzx | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:38:21 PM | Message Detail
15:00 | Ganon | 53245 | +769 | 76.42% | Robotnik | 16429 | +209 | 23.58% | Lead of 36816 | (Up 560)

"Updates Left: 36
Votes per update needed for Robotnik to catch up: 1022.667
Ganon's % last update: 78.63%
Total Votes so far: 69674"

15:15 | Ganon | 53938 | +693 | 76.45% | Robotnik | 16615 | +186 | 23.55% | Lead of 37323 | (Up 507)


"Updates Left: 35
Votes per update needed for Robotnik to catch up: 1066.372
Ganon's % last update: 78.84%
Total Votes so far: 70553"

15:30 | Ganon | 54705 | +767 | 76.50% | Robotnik | 16806 | +191 | 23.50% | Lead of 37899 | (Up 576)


"Updates Left: 34
Votes per update needed for Robotnik to catch up: 1114.677
Ganon's % last update: 80.06%
Total Votes so far: 71511"


For him to move up that .1% to 76.5 we've been seeing 78-80% this last hour...

The insanity...


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Spring Contest 2k5 Score X Potential: 40/44 X 76/80
Pick: Ganon Vote: Eggman
From: rpgapzx | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:39:22 PM | Message Detail
Blah I messed up the times. Add 2 hours. The updates are still right.
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Spring Contest 2k5 Score X Potential: 40/44 X 76/80
Pick: Ganon Vote: Eggman
From: Tai | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:43:44 PM | Message Detail
CATS > Robotnik > Sin

Sin > Master Hand > Kuja. :-)
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:45:18 PM | Message Detail
Pitfall Harry > Sin :-)
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:50:01 PM | Message Detail
So that means Sonic would be projected to get nearly as much against Robotnik as he got in his first round matchup against Pitfall Harry BEFORE SFF?

That's insane.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:51:15 PM | Message Detail
Speaking of which, does that officially make Robotnik the furthest villain from his hero in the contests?
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From: shadow8021 | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:52:31 PM | Message Detail
X-stats for Ruin Division:

Diablo: 50.00%
M. Bison: 47.12%
Kefka: 45.91%
Ridley: 42.35%
Mithos: 33.07%
Albedo: 29.74%
Wesker: 27.21%
Luca Blight: 21.91%
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Spring Contest Score: 36/40
Today's Pick: Kefka
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:54:30 PM | Message Detail
Speaking of which, does that officially make Robotnik the furthest villain from his hero in the contests?

Probably... the only other one I think could be farther from their hero is Lavos.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/30/2005 5:55:38 PM | Message Detail
Sigma as well.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 5/30/2005 6:01:33 PM | Message Detail
*SSBM chanting*

Ganondorf! Ganondorf!
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/30/2005 6:01:40 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, but Sigma is above CATS right now. Robotnik isn't. I don't know if I'd consider the Blue Bomber the hero counterpart of Sigma anyhow. We've never seen the X form in these contests.
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