People need to get over this psychological hurdle that CATS can't win a match.

This looks like remants of that ridiculous idea that CATS had a ceiling for votes.

CATS certainly can win matches if he's up against the right character.

It is truly shocking to consider that Kuja may be one of those characters...and I, like just about everybody, would still pick Kuja to beat CATS in such a match. But then, just about everybody picked Kuja to beat MH, and Link to beat Cloud in 2K3, too.

It isn't impossible that Kuja is just a total jobber. I don't like the concept of that, as I like Kuja. But it might be true.

I might actually be more surprised that Sin is so weak.
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I'd take CATS over Kuja, but not over Master Hand.

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!

This is a beating of just epic proportions... What kind of % is Ganon pulling in over the last couple hours to spike so greatly in %, when he was already almost tripling Robotnik to begin with!?!

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In the last hour, Ganondorf has gotten 78.63% of the vote.
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That's ****ing awesome.

He's impressing me as much as Sephiroth did.
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It's strange how the other Sonic characters are among the best at getting the day vote, while Robotnik has been abysmal with it in every match.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus

Whoa, Ganondorf has increased .4% in the last hour. This is ridiculous.

More like ridiculously awesome. Ganondorf is looking to do very well against both Diablo and Sephiroth at this rate.

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Out of space....
It's MOOOOOOLLLLLTTTAAAARRRR!!!!

... And then he can face Link in a bonus match, and struggle to get 13%, right Molty? ^_^
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Flee back to your masters, Aldaris, and huddle with them in darkness! For your actions shall set us all unto the Zerg! ~ Tassadar

Hey Mumei, why don't you go do something pointless...like nominate Kerrigan into the Summer Contest, or something.
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Out of space....
It's MOOOOOOLLLLLTTTAAAARRRR!!!!

somehow this all villain contest doesn't quite show a character's real strength for me. since there are only villains, fans of one game will be putting their entire support behind one person because the hero of their game is not present
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I never expected to see any Sonic character get annihilated this badly in the day vote without facing Link. Hell, I wouldn't even expect Link to win the day vote by this much.
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Sephiroth is good, if he wasn't good, sephiroth wouldn't have 8.000 fans around the world. ~Siimor11
ZSB [aX]

So is there any doubt now that Diablo's the strongest new character?

It was either him, Ridley, Bison, or Ocelot. There wasn't a whole lot to choose from.
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Considering the fact that it looks like none of the other new characters are going to rank above Kefka except for Bison, Diablo's pretty much a lock for strongest newbie.
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.......It's kinda sad to see only two new characters stronger then Kefka.

Well, not really.
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Volgin is one sexy beast....

The sad thing is that people who thought Ocelot would be near Liquid Snake in strength before the contest might actually turn out to be right.

Just sort of an ironic twist to that one though.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus

The sad thing is that people who thought Ocelot would be near Liquid Snake in strength before the contest might actually turn out to be right.

Just sort of an ironic twist to that one though.

:(

I was still right in a way, just didn't realize how problematic close matches could be.

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!

Hey Mumei, why don't you go do something pointless...like nominate Kerrigan into the Summer Contest, or something.

Love you, too, Molty. ^_^
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Flee back to your masters, Aldaris, and huddle with them in darkness! For your actions shall set us all unto the Zerg! ~ Tassadar

Just for fun, basing Liquid's value on 2004 Sephy, Ocelot would get nearly 47% on him. If that had been true with Liquid's 2004 value, Bowser would've won with 51.29%.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus

I like this petition Forsaken made for 3-way matches for next contest. You guys should check it out. :-)

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=21265341
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The funny thing is, if somehow Master Hand had beat Robotnik and managed to get the same % on Ganon as Robotnik is doing, everyone would've said it was SSBM SFF—and then we would've had a convenient excuse for raising Kuja up.
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With the fall of Liquid Snake, I ask this.

Carl Johnson vs Liquid Snake. Who wins?
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I don't want to say this, but yoblazer's making me for him pwning me in the Guru Contest! *grumble*

3-way matches would suck hard.
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You think this Spring's final's gonna suck? The three-way final would be atrocious.
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I don't want to say this, but yoblazer's making me for him pwning me in the Guru Contest! *grumble*

Thank goodness that Ceej would never listen to such a petition anyway.

I anti-signed for the heck of it.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/30/2005 11:44:10 AM | Message Detail
Ganondorf has reached what he got on Ansem.

Let's take this moment to laugh at Robotnik.

Oh my dear God.

creativename and RPGuy, you'd better not make any adjustments in this contest's version of the stats. This is just too funny.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

They couldn't make adjustments anyway. There's nothing to base them on.
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RPGuy, I'd rather see hard stats for this contest, not adjusted.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

There's not much I could adjust even if I wanted to.
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Facial Hair SFF.
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The only thing in this division RPGuy could POSSIBLY adjust is CATS if he actually did overperform on Ansem. The rest lacks anything to rely on for an adjustment.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus

Ansem outdoing Robotnik, this is just too good. You know I think I'd put CATS over Kuja now. If nothing else just because it's a great upset pick. Heck, at this rate it looks like CATS would beat Master Hand as well. Ansem being the deserving 2 seed of the division... oh man I'm loving it. Keep him down, Ganondorf!
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Heh. The only character to break 25% on Ganondorf or Sephiroth was Ansem, and that was only by .56%.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

I was trying to think of some characters who would of done better in this contest then most of the new characters. I came up with:

Majora's Mask
Metroid Prime
Hojo
Seifer
Kerrigan

Maybe Booster, Akuma, Lynx, Aghanim (sp?), and Im quickly hitting a blank.

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"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

I reiterate, this contest makes no sense. Oh well.

Did I miss something? I just bought Tales Of Symphonia from Media Play for $20. That's the same price as Eternal Darkness and the original Metal Gear Solid. Has it been that low for a while now?

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"LucidFaia" Score: 43, Rank: 24 (T1), Pick: Ganondorf
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Booster? No way.
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Balrog, Vega, and Sagat all would've done better than most in the contest. Street Fighter's mid-carder heaven. Shao Kahn and Goro too. And yes, even Raikov would've done better than a few. That's kinda sad.
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=21155016

Wasn't Vega more popular then Bison on that one poll?

That guy was so weird...
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I'm not so sure about Balrog or Vega, but I think Sagat could've done better.
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Looking back at that upset poll is fun: never imagined Bison would be so much more popular then Master Hand.


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Volgin is one sexy beast....

Well I just have no idea how strong the characters are in Super Mario RPG. It was the best selling RPG up until Final Fantasy VII and for a lot of people was their first memory of an RPG (Actually my fourth behind Crono Trigger, Shining Force II, and Final Fantasy VI, funny those are also my favorite three RPGs.)

I was really trying to come up with the second best Mario villian and its either Booster or the villian from Mario and Luigi.
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Balrog would not get far at all, I think even Gill would beat him.
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The only one I'm not so sure about is Balrog. Even so, I think the SF name could carry Balrog over quite a few of these entrants.

But, I think Vega could possibly out-do Sagat. He's got a decent following out there, and is in every game Sagat's in. Heck, in that "best Street Fighter" poll I believe Vega outdid everybody but Ryu, Ken, and Chun Li. I could be wrong though. Let's find out.
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Guile and Blanka did better than Vega.
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I was really trying to come up with the second best Mario villian and its either Booster or the villian from Mario and Luigi.

In all honesty, it's probably Wario.
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I have only played through the SFII and all its spinoffs (Turbo, Super, Tournament, etc.) and the first SFIII, and I probably rank the top 5 characters I remember as:

1. Ryu
2. Chun-Li
3. Bison
4. Ken
5. Vega
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"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

Ansem is just another example of the typical Kingdom Hearts pattern—high expectations, appear to flop hard, and then seem to not have flopped as hard as initially thought in retrospect.

It's old hat now.
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I just watched the Ryu vs. CATS flash. X to the D baby.
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Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Can we really consider Wario a villian anymore? He has been stared in his own games more than being a villian in Mario's.
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"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

But, I think Vega could possibly out-do Sagat. He's got a decent following out there, and is in every game Sagat's in.

You forgot the original Street Fighter.

In all seriousness though, Vega isn't in the first two Alpha games.
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