My only mistake was underestimating the power of this kid!

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm



*Match Pictures*

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

FIRST
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Nothing I can do, a total eclipse of the heart.
Constantine Maroulis: My American Idol

Another part in the long lasting Stats and Discussion....

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

SECOND
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Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=20119594

HM you bastard, you screwed me up!
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And yeah I'm like 3 posts early, but I'm going to bed and don't care. Good night, folks.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

WTF? This is way too early!
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O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio

The old one hasn't even hit 300 yet!
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Ooh Kuja, you poor, pathetic soul. You'd almost get doubled by Ansem!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostea Din Tei for Trivia XV

Shocked to see no perfects, I thought we'd see around a dozen or so.
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I'm just a soulless drone. Don't mind me.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

This match is ridiculous. Pull through, damn you, Robotnik!!!
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Wait, I've got it.

REDDISH ORANGE BURGUNDY FACIAL HAIR SFF
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www.SC2K5.com

Increase your lead, Ganondorf! Show that blouse wearin' poodle walker who's boss! Aye! He's now on Willie's time!!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Damn. Whenever I play Wind Waker, I'm going to think of Groundskeeper Willie.

I laughed.


Lucid, that is undoubtedly the best 500-post yet. I loved that song back in the day, he he he.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Maybe this match is suffering from villain SFF...

>_>;
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And how many points do you have, again? - fedor
And how many contests have you won, again? - UltimaterializerX

With Ganon doing this well, it's possible that his match with Sephiroth won't be a complete blowout...

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"LucidFaia" Score: 43, Rank: 24 (T1), Pick: Ganondorf
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Who'd you guys take between Nemesis and Kuja?
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BANG BANG BANG VIPER BEAM!

Sorry to veer from the discussion but I have to know about something. What is this "usermap axing" people talk about? It sounds vicious.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.

Nemesis without question.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Right now, I'm hoping for only two things to occur in the final match:

1. Ganondorf makes it without being doubled.
2. The match draws an unimpressive amount of votes. Somewhere around 90,000.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Ganondorf 73.3% 2932
Dr. Robotnik 26.7% 1068
TOTAL VOTES 4000
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Relying on the stats in every situation will have you losing more than just a few matches, too.

Mostly the close ones. Then that's when common sense comes in handy. Heck, that was the whole basis of my "Tidus is going to beat Shadow" guarantee. When they're that close, Tidus had the obvious edge in just about every category.

And I'm only defending the stats because it's ridiculous saying, "Bah, it's just common sense and there's no way it could ever happen otherwise because I just know these things," when we've got data right before our eyes that DOES say otherwise.

But then again, apparently thinking that data could POSSIBLY override what is considered "common sense" means I can't think straight.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus

maybe people will miss these coming matches yoblazer, thus weakening your competition. >_> or maybe they're all from out of us! or they're all funny alt brackets that got lucky.
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Against Kefka, HaRRicH said Wesker < 43%. I said Wesker > 43%...
...turns out 29.63% < 43%, as well as HaRRicH > CaptainFlufflez. Learn to love it.

I'm goin' to bed guys, but since it got over-looked earlier, I'll ask again...Kuja/Andross, who wins?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Right now, I've gotta take Andross...
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Sorry to veer from the discussion but I have to know about something. What is this "usermap axing" people talk about? It sounds vicious.

A User Map Axe is when all GameFAQs accounts on a usermap get banned due to the actions of one or more accounts on the User Map. A User Map is the thing GameFAQs creates to track which accounts have been used on a computer. After a certain period of time an account falls off a user map, at that point the actions of other accounts on that user map will no longer affect that account that fell off.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

As of now, Giygas gets approximately 37.5% of the vote on Kuja...just...ugh.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO CATS

We need someone else from FFIX in the summer contest to see if only Vivi is worth anything.

What. A. Dud. Right now, I'm honestly ready to attribute his terrible performance to half his fanbase standing in line for Episode III. It just seems so... wrong.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Thanks TRE. I was curious because I keep hearing about accounts being unfairly axed that way. It sounds like people are hacking into other people's accounts.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.

Kuja can't be that weak... can he?

I dunno, maybe the pic's to blame... a casual FF9 fan might not... remember the name Kuja? I didn't recognize the "trance pic" right off, I'll say that. He wasn't in trance for very long in that game.

Um... I have no idea, I'm stumped. I'd definitely take Andross over Kuja though. Probably over Master Hand too, for that matter.
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=21155016

Just one final note: HM, I'm not blindly following what the stats say because they're the stats. I'm just saying you shouldn't be adamantly disregarding what they say just because it defies "common sense." You're flat-out rejecting so much as the POSSIBILITY that they're right. And that's all I'm saying the stats are suggesting. There is a possibility, which you are so adamantly denying. That is ALL I'm getting at, nothing more.

Now I'm done with that.
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"Thinking isn't solving anything!" - Tidus

I'm surprised that we lost every single perfect left in that match.

Ganon doing this well doesn't surprise me, Robotnik was just a weak character in a weaker four pack. Kuja being ranked that low may seem incredibly wrong, but this contest has seen crazier things happen.
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Uh... no, no it hasn't.
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"The PS3 isn't designed to lean towards games. It's not a computer for children."- Ken Kutaragi

From the last topic...

Well if WW Ganon is more powerful that pretty much destroys the WW pic handicapped Link in 2k3 arguement.

Okay, this is probably the last time I argue about this, because it's pretty much useless arguing this in this topic. WW Ganondorf isn't NEARLY as complained about as WW Link. I'll leave it at this, if Shigeru Miyamoto himself admitted that there was much complaining about the WW character model, enough that they made it a goal to remedy it in the next Gamecube Zelda title. I mean look at the difference in how WW and TP were initially received. My point is that if there was enough complaining about the WW model for Miyamoto to acknowledge it, then why couldn't it be a factor in this contest?

A lot of people are assuming that people will either vote for a character or won't vote for a character the same way EVERY time. That simply isn't the case. Yes, WW Link may not be a big enough factor for people to simply not vote for him even among lesser characters. It's not like I'm saying he's weak. But against a character as popular as Cloud, I don't see why it isn't possible for a number of voters to vote Cloud over WW Link. I think we can all agree that there are many Link fans who don't care for the WW model, so why is it unfathomable for that to have an effect in a match?

I'm dropping it from now on though, because it's clearly pointless to argue this in this topic....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

A lot of people are assuming that people will either vote for a character or won't vote for a character the same way EVERY time.

That's true. It's not the same principle, but I changed voting for and against Starcraft three times. Two were bracket votes, one was an anti-vote, one was a bandwagon-jumping vote.
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Jon Thomson - 34/44, today: Ganondorf, tomorrow: Sephiroth
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Don't think I've seen this yet for the Ruin division, hope I've calculated it right:

Diablo 50
Bison 47.12
Kefka 45.91
Ridley 42.35
Mithos 33.07
Albedo 29.74
Wesker 27.21
Luca 21.91
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Jon Thomson - 34/44, today: Ganondorf, tomorrow: Sephiroth
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

I think Wesker would beat Albedo.
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Current Match Prediction -- Ganondorf vs. Dr. Robotnik
Spring 2005 Contest -- 43/44 points

The Fairlight theme is the best piece of video game music ever made.

Discuss.
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"The PS3 isn't designed to lean towards games. It's not a computer for children."- Ken Kutaragi

I think Wesker would beat Albedo.

Agreed. That may just be a huge choke job against Kefka.

Using Kefka's figure from sc2k4.com's SFF adjusted extrapolated stats, I thought I'd work out where the Ruin division lies:

Vercetti>Diablo>Luigi

Donkey Kong>Bison>Tails

Viewtiful Joe>Ridley>Scorpion

Conker>Mithos>Sam Fisher

Lara Croft>Albedo>Gordon Freeman

Terry Bogard>Wesker>Luca (old figure)

JC Denton>Luca (new figure)>Ratchet

Luca was at 12.35 then, and at 10.12 through SC2K4 Kefka using this contest's stats.
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Jon Thomson - 34/44, today: Ganondorf, tomorrow: Sephiroth
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

wow. i still can't believe that so many of you guys are still having a hard time admitting that CATS performed better this year than past years. is it really that hard to accept that his face is infinitely more recognizable than that Eggplant pic? come on. go to Google Images and type in "all your base". see how many give you CATS face and how many give you that lousy full-body sprite.

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OMG CENSOR BYPASS

Wow. Turns out Master Hand was a complete loser as many of us predicted. Knowing that, I just can't understand how he managed to beat Kuja...
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 34/44 - Matches: 22/27 - Rank: 02241/24748 - Today: Ganondorf - Tomorrow: Sephiroth

Yar...

Rematch! Different pics this time just in case! =D
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I want Dragon Quest VIII

Because Kuja is actually more pathetic than the glove?
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.

You know what I mean. HOW CAN HE BE SO?

I'd love to know how strong Zidane is. How can Vivi be top 25 in summer contests, and Kuja be expected to lose to CATS, I have no idea.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 34/44 - Matches: 22/27 - Rank: 02241/24748 - Today: Ganondorf - Tomorrow: Sephiroth

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Let me see. Here are several reasons IMO that might have affected Kuja's performance (especially when compared to Vivi.)

1. FF9 sold significantly fewer copies compared to the other next-gen FFs (excluding FFX-2). Higher sales don't guarantee success in the contest of course but more sales means more casual awareness.

2. If I recall correctly, FF9 didn't exactly do all that great in a POTD that asked about favorite Final Fantasy's.

3. Kuja is not a hero.

4. Kuja is not a black mage.

5. Kuja looks effeminate. That might have turned off some people.

6. Kuja shared the "villain" spotlight with too many other people in his own game. The focus was more on Brahne in the early part of the game and on Garland in the later portions. Heck, he's not even the final boss.

7. People don't consider Kuja to be "badass" enough. Nor is he cult or "faddish" (like Ultros or CATS).

8. Apathy. Perhaps people didn't care enough about his character. That's actually worse than being reviled since most people wouldn't bother voting (or anti-voting) him.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.

vivi is probably the strongest character in his game by a margin similar to mega man and protoman. thats quite a gap
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft