Not Robotnik already looks like crap.

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This makes Kuja look super fodderiffic though... assuming Ganondorf finishes with 70%, what does that put Kuja at on him?

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Ganondorf 72.95% 731
Dr. Robotnik 27.05% 271
TOTAL VOTES 1002

Ganon is insane.

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Looks like the winner of the contest will be determined by the number of votes that that the winner of the final battle will have. I think I overshot it a bit, I said 60000.
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If I could bet my sig on that I would, but some lucky guru already owns it for a month. If I had another account over 75 karma I'd bet this one. As it stands, I'll bet you one thing that very so often isn't wagered on that matter... If Ganon is closer to his 2k3 ranking then what my stats are calling him at I'll kiss your ass for the remainder of my stay on this board. So would you like to make a wager? You taking Ganon at 29.91+ and me taking him at 29.90- vs. 2k4 Link?

First of all, I am typing this post having only seen the results of the first 3 votes of this match. I don't think Ganondorf's 2k3/2k4 ranking was accurate either. I would actually place Ganondorf at almost exactly 30. I'll still take up your bet, though. The Guru bet shouldn't take up more then about half the sig space. Would you still agree to the bet if we bet whatever space is leftover in the sig?
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Ganondorf 72.97% 729
Dr. Robotnik 27.03% 270
TOTAL VOTES 999

Yikes.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

"character strengths are way out of proportion to what they used to be."

We have nothing to base Robotnik on at this point. Those characters could all be that weak (even Kuja *tears*). It doesn't make absolute sense to my mind either, but that doesn't mean there are all that many abnormalities involved at this point (baring liquid ****)
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"Master Hand below CATS...."

Well, to be fair, I had expected that. For Kuja to be there, well, that doesn't sit right with me... but I think if people can blame an E3 trailer for 2k4 Link I can justify the same thing possesing MH for a single day. :)

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We have nothing to base Robotnik on at this point. Those characters could all be that weak

You'll have to excuse me if I think Master Hand and Kuja are stronger than CATS.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

You mean, how does it make Kuja look if Ganon gets in the high 60s against Robotnik, who soundly defeated Master Hand, who demolished Kuja?

Not good.

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"Would you still agree to the bet if we bet whatever space is leftover in the sig?"

Even with what we're seeing right here, right now, it's a done deal.
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X-Stats be damned, a projected 60/40 drubbing would not stop me from taking Kuja over CATS.

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I'm aware of how it makes Kuja look, it strikes me in the face like a bat, it still doesn't make it wrong even if I will argue that it is.
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Ganondorf 73.6% 1001
Dr. Robotnik 26.4% 359
TOTAL VOTES 1360

That's what it looks like when Ganon hits 1000.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

X-Stats be damned, a projected 60/40 drubbing would not stop me from taking Kuja over CATS.

Exactly. No one in this topic would even give a second thought about taking CATS over Kuja.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

Imagine the uproar if Ansem and Kuja had switched places; even if CATS lost there, the roar of the board would have been HUGE.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

if you ask me, he comes off as being the FFX version of Kuja.

I wouldn't quite say that. For most of the game, Kuja kinda works behind the scenes and causes chaos without being directly involved (and we've seen just how much that's helped Ocelot and Wesker). Seymour is in your way from the moment you meet him, and you fight him four times (one of which is about as memorable of a fight in the FF series, if only for difficulty). Seymour has a more obvious and apparent impact on the storyline that Kuja does.
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Score-Brackets-% Right
40-----4--------0.0000000
39-----48-------58.3333333
38-----53-------35.8490566
37-----241------38.5892116
36-----396------31.3131313
35-----621------23.1884058
34-----1057-----17.5969726
33-----1376-----14.1715116
32-----1829-----12.9032258
31-----2133-----12.1894046
30-----2411-----11.6549150
29-----2306-----12.4024284
28-----2218-----12.7592426
27-----1874-----12.9669157
26-----1654-----12.0918984
25-----1267-----12.1546961
24-----1021-----16.9441724
23-----885------17.5141243
22-----731------15.4582763
21-----568------17.9577465
20-----421------23.7529691
19-----348------20.6896552
18-----316------18.3544304
17-----222------19.3693694
16-----130------16.1538462
15-----126------15.8730159
14-----100------15.0000000
13-----69-------14.4927536
12-----68-------19.1176471
11-----37-------13.5135135
10-----31-------6.4516129
9------18-------16.6666667
8------24-------25.0000000
7------17-------17.6470588
6------17-------5.8823529
5------21-------14.2857143
4------19-------10.5263158

Nobody with a score of 3 or less got the match correct.

The run of the perfects comes to an end. Not a single perfect got the match correct. As I'm sure many people have pointed out by now, it was the final match of the ruin division that brought ruin to the perfects.

22 people fell off the Top 50 today. killamike1979, FearTheClown, LookIKilledU, tirta99, I3arfbag, The_Alpha_Male, Stationery__Man, Comebacks, moonmagi, JDTAY, 2royam4yggi, SilverPhoenix47, ladykilla69, IceClimberPopo, BlindAzathoth, BMVlado, Bacon_65, KenY05 and the last four perfects raziel_dark1, SubZer0619, LordAceron and crazyweasel45 did not have Diablo beating Kefka.
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Okay, assuming that this remains a 74/26 split (I think Robo will close it up a tad by the end) on my Ganon we get...

Robotnik - 14.26
MH - 11.55
Kuja - 10.68

All on 2k4 Link, of course. That means Robo = Laharl (off by .01%), MH = Sly Cooper (dead on), and Kuja = Ratchet (not as close, really, with Kuja winning safely-ish).
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I'll also take a moment here...

...Leonhart, we were both right and we were both wrong. I thought MH would beat Kuja and was right, while you thought MH was a joke character and was right. I didn't think MH would be far away from Ness and I was wrong, while you thought Kuja > Kefka and was wrong. Heh, I guess we had plenty of reason to argue like we did pre-contest, afterall.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Yeah, we were right about the OTHER character, not the guy we were supporting.
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This is somewhat impressive...however...these numbers are basically what Sephiroth did on Liquid, and we all know that Liquid would destroy Robotnik by over 60/40

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Funny how that works, eh? Damn unrealized bias.....
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

All things considered, I'd probably take Kuja over Master Hand again if the match was tomorrow. I think there are a lot of factors, but E3 may be one of the most dangerous of them all. It gets games online to check out the news and therefor all of their favorite game sites. Who knows, all I know is that I'd blindly take Kuja again if there was a chance.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Man, I hate this contest more and more with every match. It ceases to make sense.

Looks like Dr. Wily > Dr. Robotnik, and by quite a bit.
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I don't care what the X-Stats say about Kuja I gurantee he'd beat most of the people this puts him under.

Okay, Ganondorf, you can stop going for the tripling now. Quit bringing Kuja close to dropping under 10%!
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HOLY CRAP...Ganon's numbers are jaw-dropping right now.

This has got to change...no way that Ansem can be this close to Robotnik. Right...?

Ganon's stock—which had been dropping after round 1—has to go up after this.
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This are indeed some rather monsterous numbers from Ganon...

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Ganondorf 73.79% 1478
Dr. Robotnik 26.21% 525
TOTAL VOTES 2003

Lag.


I suspect MH, Sin, and Kuja would all beat characters nearby them in the stats; we know they're weak, but we know they can pull it out against those nearby them too.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

I agree that it's inconceivable that Kuja would lose to CATS...but this is really weird.
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Well, Ganon has stopped working his way towards a tripling, actually. Robo is fighting back in the %. Still losing badly, of course, but I can't see him being tripled unless Ganon wins wire to wire updates.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Exactly. No one in this topic would even give a second thought about taking CATS over Kuja.

At this point, Robotnik is doing about as well as Ansem. He'd beat Kuja 60/40. You really think CATS can't beat him?
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Does it really matter? The only thing left to be decided in this contest is a) whether anyone can NOT be doubled by Sephiroth and b) what kind of outside support can Diablo conjure up on Wednesday to keep the Ruin Division from all being uber fodder?

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At this point, Robotnik is doing about as well as Ansem. He'd beat Kuja 60/40. You really think CATS can't beat him?

If you're capable of pulling your head out of the numbers for so much as two seconds, then yes I think any sane person would not even given a second thought taking Kuja.

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I think Kuja VS Robotnik would be closer than MH VS Robotnik.

I base this on nothing mathematical, just intuition.
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Diablo's already proven he's not fodder. He's going to rank in the upper half of the stats (well, unless Kefka's unadjusted number is more correct, then it's close).
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Buttnik's gonna need the day vote, or else Sin's not gonna be a happy whale.
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Yes, I don't think CATS can beat Kuja. Something really screwy happened throughout this contest, and I have no idea what in the hell it is. But I do know I would take Robotnik, Sin, MH and Kuja over Ansem, and we are quickly approaching a number that makes all four of those statistical underdogs.

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Logically speaking, the ONLY character that CATS should be favored over in this division is Giygas. This doesn't make a lick of sense.
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If you're capable of pulling your head out of the numbers for so much as two seconds, then yes I think any sane person would not even given a second thought taking Kuja

Kuja has already lost to one absolute joke. He can't lose to CATS?

Obviously, the numbers aren't perfect but there's no reason to completely reject them. They say what they say for a reason (whether that reason is an anomaly, who knows).
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Robo's jumpin' up in the percentage now...

...he better keep it up if he wants to beat Diablo out for that most-impressive-newbie spot.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Master Hand might be an absolute joke but I'd pick him over CATS without a second thought.

Ganon won't be doubled. After seeing this...I'll say 64-36 for Sephiroth. It would be higher for Ganon, but let us not forget Seph got 61% on Mario....

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I think Diablo has locked up most impressive newcomer. Personally, I think Ganondorf will have a difficult time doubling him, especially taking into account the mere fact that he has outside sources to draw votes from.

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"Ganon won't be doubled."

LOL
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Goddamn... if Ganondorf keeps this up, CATS may be accurately seeded in this division O.o
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Kuja has already lost to one absolute joke. He can't lose to CATS?

One "absolute joke" who comes from a very popular Nintendo title and was going to get support based upon that alone. Here, you are talking about a pure joke of a character. If you honestly believe that CATS would stand a good chance against Kuja, then I prefer not to even bother discussing the matter with you. Because you would be beyond help.

Obviously, the numbers aren't perfect but there's no reason to completely reject them.

And if you believe every single thing they say without the ability to think for yourself, then you are not in any sort of better position. It would be nice if you actually tried not using the stats for every single situation and sticking to them regardless of what you see or what is just common sense.

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Since Robo is already pushing back the % (menaing Ganon isn't winning as big as he was) and Sonic characters rule the day that Robo should probably top 28% with comfort.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

If I must spill the blood of 1000 infants in order to keep it from happening, I will be all too happy to do it. Ganon will not be doubled.

*sharpens blade*
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