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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 135
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:39:49 AM | Message Detail
Eh, is something going on >_>

Oh, wedding, yeah... umm. Okay son, the important thing to learn about marriage is this, have as much sex as you can on your honeymoon because after that it's on a "when she feels like it" basis, which is in many cases never. Anyway, yeah, congrats.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:41:56 AM | Message Detail
but Ulti convinced me to bring Mega Man up, chiefly because of Ryu > Snake

Well, it's obvious that Snake took a dip in strength anyway. And it's not like he blew Ryu out either. He would be awfully close regardless.

All I can say is that the 20XX Division blows hard.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:43:42 AM | Message Detail
All I can say is that the 20XX Division blows hard.

Except for Kefka, who is awesome.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:44:49 AM | Message Detail
BTW the link doesn't work for me, so I'll just go out on a limb and say congrats Ulti!
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From: voltch | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:45:03 AM | Message Detail
anyone think snake will increase his strength because of mgs3 and mg acid and the hype of three new metal gear games
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:45:03 AM | Message Detail
Chichiri, I have a very good sex life. As for the whole myth about girls losing their sex drive after getting married, she isn't really like that. She's.... new-agey, I suppose.

Ulti convinced me to bring Mega Man up, chiefly because of Ryu > Snake.

Yeah, that was the first thing that jumped out at me about those stats.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:46:09 AM | Message Detail
Except for Kefka, who is awesome.

I'm talking stats-wise. Kefka wasn't even the best character in his own match. There are still some question marks about him, too, particularly how he managed to make such a large gap between him and Pac-Man in one year.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:46:22 AM | Message Detail
I was joking. You know, makin' a funny.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:49:25 AM | Message Detail
I wonder if Alanna will still throw herself at you after August 21...
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:49:57 AM | Message Detail
Why would that change anything?
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:50:10 AM | Message Detail
Well, Snake would go from beating Ryu with 57.26% in 2k3 to losing with 46.46% in 2k4 without any 20XXDF. Something is wrong there, methinks. Mega Man, Zero, Vercetti, and Knuckles also take conspicuous falls. Something else could have happened with the trio and Crash, Tanner looks even worse, Tidus and Shadow look even more pathetic and can't be strong again, Max acutally falls into place, and we can't say anything about Proto or EJ. I think that covers everyone.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:51:55 AM | Message Detail
I've come to a conclusion that I think many will agree with. In 2k3, he barely beats Pac-Man and is then SFF'd by Crono...how badly, we don't know. In 2k4, FF3/6 does excellently despite losing in the Sweet Sixteen and Kefka shows some new-found strength against Knuckles. Luigi then goes on to blow Pac-Man out of the water...there's two problems though: Luigi then lost to the SFF'd Yoshi, and Kefka was in the controversial 20XX division. Now, Kefka looks fairly unimpressive against Mithos before decimating Wesker worse than he should have to Luca, then manages to lose to Diablo...so, my conclusion is this:

KEFKA ****IN' SUCKS WHEN IT COMES TO PREDICTING WHAT HE'S GONNA DO.
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From: ernest | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:52:01 AM | Message Detail
any characters expected to become stronger this summer contest?
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:54:18 AM | Message Detail
Dante, Master Chief, and possibly Samus all should become stronger.
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Sephiroth is good, if he wasn't good, sephiroth wouldn't have 8.000 fans around the world. ~Siimor11
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:56:48 AM | Message Detail
Blah, I'll wait and see what Sephiroth and Ganondorf do first, then. Perhaps 20XX Factor wasn't ALL Link overperformance and Mega Man did dip somewhat. Either way, that whole division sends contradictory signals. Kefka acts like there was SFF against Crono and Pac-Man acts like there wasn't. Zero performs almost exactly like he was supposed to against Vercetti (despite Max doing better than he should, but he did face Sephy in 2003) and Mega Man. Snake obviously dropped, and Knux appears stable. Tidus/Shadow goes almost exactly as it should, and then Mega Man blows him out by nearly 10% more than he should. And of course, there's the Frog/MC/Liquid trio, not to mention Crash, whose numbers NEVER make sense in any year.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:57:50 AM | Message Detail
Don't forget Crono. And if the contest begins in August, Advent Children is released right near the end. Might make a difference (in addition to screwing up our numbers if it does).
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:59:13 AM | Message Detail
And here I thought we'd get answers from this contest, not more questions. Why do FF villains hate number so?
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:59:16 AM | Message Detail
Who knows? Perhaps the angel picture did make a difference against Wesker. Still, I wouldn't have thought it would make him look like Kirby (not literally, of course).
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/29/2005 11:59:56 AM | Message Detail
I thought we'd get more answers than questions, too.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:00:45 PM | Message Detail
Not to mention, there's still the very real possibility that Sin >= Kefka if Robotnik >= Tails.

Out of all of the FF villains to be second strongest...it had to be a giant whale, didn't it?
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:05:57 PM | Message Detail
But it makes sense for Sin/Kefka to be 2-3 considering the only game that rivals FFVI/X strength outside of VII killing them both is FFVIII and it doesnt have a good villian to put in here. I mean Ultimetica who is Miss "Lets talk about her for 15 seconds and then never mention her again until the end of Disk 3". The only villian that could have any strength is Edna and she falls into the "Magus" rule.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:06:30 PM | Message Detail
Side-note, but I find it funny that Diablo's gettin' what I dub the "church vote", heh.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:10:03 PM | Message Detail
Edea, you mean.

I still say Seifer is at worst the 3rd most popular FFVIII character. I'm surprised he didn't make it.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:11:25 PM | Message Detail
And even with how close FFVI and FFX are, I still wouldn't think it'd be enough to put Sin (SIN!) over Kefka.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:12:15 PM | Message Detail
Yeah sorry, I was going through a Maniac Mansion (one of the best games ever!) phase with that name.

Also any contest without a FFVIII character is a great contest by default.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:12:33 PM | Message Detail
I really wish Seymour had gotten into the contest instead of Sin. I'm really wondering how he would have done.
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Sephiroth is good, if he wasn't good, sephiroth wouldn't have 8.000 fans around the world. ~Siimor11
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:13:56 PM | Message Detail
If Seymour was stronger than Sin, he'd probably be at least as strong as Yuna. He would almost have to be. It's strange how close Sin is to her.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:16:50 PM | Message Detail
I'm not sold on Seymour being stronger than Sin for some reason. He just comes off as being the FFX version of Kefka.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:17:05 PM | Message Detail
Diablo's lead is over 4 times as high as it was against Bison at this same time. Granted, this is a Sunday match, so the voting patterns are different, but still. It's worth noting.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:18:48 PM | Message Detail
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:19:23 PM | Message Detail
I'm not sold on Seymour being stronger than Sin for some reason. He just comes off as being the FFX version of Kefka.

And that's a bad thing, really? Sin comes off as the FFX version of Lavos, and the giant whale is almost certain to be stronger than the porcupine.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:20:31 PM | Message Detail
This does bring up the age old question:

Who would win: Whale or Porcipine

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From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:21:02 PM | Message Detail
Ah, so we finally get to see a picture of Ulti.

I have a picture online, but believe me, I'm very stereotypical nerd-like. >_>
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:35:58 PM | Message Detail
I think it's a given that a whale would practically eat a porcupine alive, although I think it would attack valiantly for what it's worth.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:36:41 PM | Message Detail
Nah, it wouldn't put up a fight against a killer whale. Those things are vicious.
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From: Aprosenf | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:41:34 PM | Message Detail
Kefka 46.64% 23318
Diablo 53.36% 26682
TOTAL VOTES 50000
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:42:48 PM | Message Detail
Man, this contest has been boring...

...we haven't had a single exciting match yet.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:44:37 PM | Message Detail
*crossing my fingers that Bowser can hold a lead against Sephiroth for a few minutes*

And diabloii.net is down! It's OVER for Diablo! Kefka will now come storming back to win!

...Or not.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:44:56 PM | Message Detail
Master Hand/Kuja was alright.

And yeah, that's the first modern picture I've ever posted here. That's a few months old, though. The goatee's been kept a little shorter, the hair is a lot longer, and I'm thinner and more muscular. You can't look like crap when you're getting married! <3

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:47:48 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, you let yourself go AFTER you get married.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:49:13 PM | Message Detail
Hmm... longer hair, shorter goatee, thinner, more muscular... He's trying to look like Magus >_>

All he needs now is to completely lose the goatee and dye his hair silver.
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Sephiroth is good, if he wasn't good, sephiroth wouldn't have 8.000 fans around the world. ~Siimor11
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:50:00 PM | Message Detail
And shave with a scythe.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:50:54 PM | Message Detail
But he just said you CAN'T look like crap when you're getting married.

Har har.
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From: FFDragon | Posted: 5/29/2005 12:52:07 PM | Message Detail
I could totally see Ulti cosplaying as Magus. >_>

But heh, congrats man.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/29/2005 1:14:18 PM | Message Detail
I hope Diablo gets quadrupled next round, just to utterly **** up the stats.

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/29/2005 1:15:22 PM | Message Detail
Oh yeah? Well, I hope Diablo gets disqualified, and we don't even have stats!
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
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From: Starion | Posted: 5/29/2005 1:30:51 PM | Message Detail
Never figured Ulti to have long hair. I honestly expected him to have a shaved head or a crew cut hairstyle. Anyway, congratulations on your wedding Ulti.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/29/2005 1:31:20 PM | Message Detail
I hope we get nominations for Summer Contest the day after the Spring Contest ends so we dont try to hard to fit the stats from the Villians Contest in.

The fact is they are two different contests and voting patterns could be different.
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From: creativename | Posted: 5/29/2005 1:37:49 PM | Message Detail
Haven't been around this weekend, looks like I missed a whole topic, and I don't have time to read the old posts.

So it seems questionable that Ganon will break 30% on Sephiroth. It wouldn't be a shock to see Bowser perform just a bit better than Ganon; though they should get around the same.
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