Obviously, Pyramid Head and Tenpenny are weaker than Giygas. But what of Ansem and CATS?

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"LucidFaia" Score: 35, Rank: 44 (T2), Pick: Sephiroth
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

One of Giygas' values are if you extrapolate him through a constant Ganondorf, the other is if you extrapolate him through a constant CATS.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Oh, and Kefka > Lavos if we're looking at 2k4 Seph. Take that, HM!
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Oh, and Kefka > Lavos if we're looking at 2k4 Seph. Take that, HM!

How do you figure?

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"LucidFaia" Score: 35, Rank: 44 (T2), Pick: Sephiroth
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

2k4 Kefka is at 22.75%, Lavos through 2k4 Sephiroth (46.26%) is at 21.52%.
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Mushroom Division XS:

On Bowser:
Bowser 50.00
Revolver Ocelot 34.01
Dr. Wily 30.94
Nemesis 30.84
Ultros 22.26
Sigma 20.67
Andross 19.23
Pyramid Head 16.12

On 2k3 Link if Sp2k5 Bowser = 2k4 Bowser = 2k3 Bowser (whew):
Bowser 30.97
Revolver Ocelot 21.07
Dr. Wily 19.17
Nemesis 19.10
Ultros 13.79
Sigma 12.80
Andross 11.91
Pyramid Head 9.98

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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Oooh Ultros, you would be expected to beat Sigma... HAHAHA.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostea Din Tei for Trivia XV

Welcome to the 2005 Spring Contest Edition of:

Sephiroth Hates Numbers!

*round of applause*
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Just messed around with some numbers. I know this is way out in left field, but...

If we assume that 2004 Link actually is the same as 2003 Link and there was no 20XX Factor, Liquid drops to 26.92% on Link. Now here's what the results would project based on 2003 and 2004 Sephiroth:

2004 Seph - 71.09%

2003 Seph - 72.92%

And even THIS undershoots what Sephiroth's doing right now. Perhaps MGS characters took another dip.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

With a Sephiroth victory over Bowser, this will be the third consecutive contest in which I get a perfect top half of a bracket, only to have the fourth division screw me royally. With a Diablo victory over Kefka, it will be the third consecutive time I have gotten the first three divisions perfect, only to have the last division screw me royally. So, to Starcraft, SSB:M, Tails, Sora and Master Hand... **** you.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostea Din Tei for Trivia XV

Everything undershoots what Sephiroth is doing. No matter what you do, no adjustment can bring this there.

But if your theory is true, Snake could be in for a major upset this summer depending on who he faces.

Random fact: This is the easiest time anyone has ever had getting out of his division, beating out Link 2002, where Jill scored something like 27% on Link. Of course, this probably shouldn't count, as this contest is restricted to villains and Seph only had three matches to Link's four.

This isn't the biggest blowout in a division final, however: Link's whooping of Scorpion still takes the cake.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 30/36 - Matches: 21/25 - Rank: 01386/24748 - Today: Sephiroth - Tomorrow: Kefka

And here I was thinking Sephiroth could help us work out the 20XX kinks.

I should've known better.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Looks like we have our Link/Mega Man match of this Contest. There's just no explanation for Liquid to be taking this kind of beating.

In similiar news, Sephy is going for the Tripler.
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Sephiroth vs. Liquid - Bracket: Seph - Vote: Liquid (30/36)

If we factor in Solid ****... then me thinks this brings us a bit closer to this number. Just a suggestion.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostea Din Tei for Trivia XV

In the last topic, in the first few minutes when Sephiroth was only around 70-71% on Liquid, I went based on the assumption of a Frog overperformance on Solid Snake.

Just based on THAT number, Frog should've only gotten 45%. It'd be way lower than that now.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Actually, allow me to be more exact. I'll give what Frog "should" have gotten on Snake based on 2003 and 2004 Sephiroth. Solid Snake is at 30.19% on 2003 Link with no 20XX adjustment, for the record and Frog is at 29.35%.

2003 Sephiroth - Liquid falls to 25.58% which puts Frog at 42.39% on Solid Snake, a 6% overperformance.

2004 Sephiroth - Liquid falls to 23.95% which puts Frog at 39.69% on Solid Snake, nearly a 10% overperformance.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

This is rather unbelievable. Wow, Sephiroth, you're my hero. At this rate no matter how you adjust he should just flat out beat Cloud, maybe Link. We haven't had someone power out a scrub like this since... oh yeah, Samus. Eh, sometimes weird crap happens. We never found out why Lara dropped so much, either... maybe Liquid just dropped in strength a fair bit, you know, since Twin Snakes isn't fresh now like it was during the last contest. Poor Solid is in for a world of pain....
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Actuially, Link beat Scorpion win his division in 2002, remember? Sephiroth will have to beat 75.98%. :P And I fear he might be able to do it, since MGS does best with the night/early morning vote, I think.

Oh, and to look on the reasonable side, this makes Lavos and Mother Brain fall into place better. It was hard to imagine them being so strong. Heh, and maybe Sin could end up ranking higher than Lavos, after all.

Still, I'm tempted to say that this is due to Sephiroth being weird. I can't resist the 20XX factor still. That or Sonic or Samus overperformed on their losses, and in a coincidental amount. I won't ever believe that Knuckles dropped in popularity, while Sonic or Tails did not.

Oh, and if Frog = Master Chief = LSnake is true (last year) and Sephiroth beats LSnake with 75%, that ranks Crash Bandicoot at 14.56%, which is a lot lower than what Crash ranked through KOS-MOS (17.5%) and about the same as Crash's WDF-adjusted SC2K2 value (14.5%). Think what you want with that.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

My bad, Slowflake. I was thinking about only the divisional finals.

Oh, and I'm about positive something happened with Frog/SSnake and/or Frog/LSnake at this point, but I don't want to think about that yet.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Yeah, at this point we can just chill and wait for the finals since it's just a few days away. Seph's next two matches will answer much more important questions than this one. I never expected this one to fully clear anything up, since even if Seph performed as expected there would be multiple factors speculated on, but I didn't expect it to make things worse...
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Doesn't look like L.Snake can avoid a tripling..

I wonder if Ganon or Bowser will avoid a doubling..

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~ExquisiteSamurai~

Hopefully they can. So far, both of them have been looking really good in this Contest, while we started to notice that Liquid had lost his steam in his match against Lavos.

I swear, I think it's just a major under-performance today from Liquid. I'm also starting to that that he over-performed greatly on Frog, while the Chief didn't.

Basically what I'm saying is that everything was right except Liquid's overperformance on Frog, which means he really isn't as strong as Frog and MC.

Then again, if Chief/Frog were to happen again, I'd put Chief over Frog.
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Sephiroth vs. Liquid - Bracket: Seph - Vote: Liquid (30/36)

Bowser and Ganon will go out at a cool 60/40.
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HRC total: 77592.6
Vote for Kefka? >_>;;

As Chichiri brought up, if you go with the 32.10% value for Liquid on 2k3 Link, you get Sephiroth at 63.19% on 2k3 Link , which is right around where Samus through Lara and Sam was in 2k4. I think that Samus was just a touch higher (64%, IIRC), though, so Samus > Sephiroth. ;)
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Bowser and Ganon will go out at a cool 60/40.

BOWSER>MARIO'D
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If you go to him, he will destroy you. And your last moments will be of shadow and pain.

Wow. Sephiroth is beating the living crap out of Liquid right now. Far more than anything I would have expected.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

The better Sephiroth does, the happier my bracket is. Go!
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Current Match Prediction -- Sephiroth vs. Liquid Snake
Spring 2005 Contest -- 35/36 points

Oh, and Kefka > Lavos if we're looking at 2k4 Seph. Take that, HM!

That's the disgusting part.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

No, HM, the disgusting part is Sephiroth having more than 50% of the vote.
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Sephiroth is good, if he wasn't good, sephiroth wouldn't have 8.000 fans around the world. ~Siimor11
ZSB [aX]

You know, if it wasn't for Diablo way back when, my bracket would be doing really good right now. Missed like one match outside of those matches. Figures. Time to go see Sephy triple Liquid(WTF? I called Sephy at around 72/73% for the Oracle last night, and thought that was a high pick.)
*Nods to Ulti's SMRPG reference in the opening post*
Nice.
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Winner of The GOLD Triforce in scientist pg's riddle contest!

No, HM, the disgusting part is Sephiroth having more than 50% of the vote.

Sephiroth having more than 1% of the vote in *any* match is disgusting, regardless of the opponent.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

Looks like I picked the correct signature for today's match last night.
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"Sephiroth's strength is unreal. He is far stronger in reality then any story you might have heard about him." - Cloud

From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/28/2005 2:45:30 PM | #081
Sephiroth having more than 1% of the vote in *any* match is disgusting, regardless of the opponent.

It's Liquid ****ing Snake. I rather enjoy seeing Sephiroth triple him.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 30/36 - Matches: 21/25 - Rank: 01386/24748 - Today: Sephiroth - Tomorrow: Kefka

Slowflake, who would you want to win in Liquid Snake/Shadow the Hedgehog?
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O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio

Well at least Shadow is getting his own game.
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I want Dragon Quest VIII

It's Liquid ****ing Snake. I rather enjoy seeing Sephiroth triple him.

Uh, maybe you didn't catch the fact that SEPHIROTH has more than 1% of the vote. There is no character worse than Sephiroth.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

Man...Sephiroth may very well beat Liquid by a larger margin than Link beat Scorpion. That's just wrong.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Heroic Mario is correct.
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O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio

There is no character worse than Sephiroth.

If that was true, he wouldn't have faced a character worse than him in round 1.
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SpC2k5: 32/36 Final four: Bowser, SEPHIROTH, Kefka, GANONDORF
*is Janus5000*

I can't wait til Seph doubles up on Ganon and Bowser. Imma be laughing my ass off at HM for talking crap about Sephiroth.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Oh, and if Frog = Master Chief = LSnake is true (last year) and Sephiroth beats LSnake with 75%, that ranks Crash Bandicoot at 14.56%, which is a lot lower than what Crash ranked through KOS-MOS (17.5%) and about the same as Crash's WDF-adjusted SC2K2 value (14.5%). Think what you want with that.

Meh, I wouldn't be surprised if Crash overperformed against KOS-MOS. He was the bracket favorite (if I'm not mistaken), and Xenosaga is pretty cult.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

If that was true, he wouldn't have faced a character worse than him in round 1.

It is a fact. Sephiroth has been the inferior character in every match he has been in.

I can't wait til Seph doubles up on Ganon and Bowser. Imma be laughing my ass off at HM for talking crap about Sephiroth.

You probably won't see me actively around during that horrible, horrible time. Any day that Ganon and Bowser get beat by Sephiroth is a day I do not want to be on GameFAQs.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

From: swirldude | Posted: 5/28/2005 2:49:06 PM | #084
Slowflake, who would you want to win in Liquid Snake/Shadow the Hedgehog?

Man, that's a tough one. Liquid's the original *****y clone with an inferiority complex, but Shadow is infinitely more omnipresent, and thus, annoying.

I think I'd root for whoever's in line the following round. To win a match he/she isn't even in, that's right.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 30/36 - Matches: 21/25 - Rank: 01386/24748 - Today: Sephiroth - Tomorrow: Kefka

Any day that Ganon and Bowser get beat by Sephiroth is a day I do not want to be on GameFAQs.

AGREE'D
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Sephiroth vs. Liquid - Bracket: Seph - Vote: Liquid (30/36)

At the halfway point, this match has 52160 votes. To compare to other matches at the same time:

Sephiroth/Ramirez - 46940
Ganondorf/Giygas - 45315
Bison/Diablo - 41226
Bowser/Ocelot - 41861

This match is on pace for over 100,000 votes, eh? Not bad. Oh, and I thought this was interesting. These are Sephiroth's total votes at this time in each match.

Ramirez - 38857
Vergil - 36372
Liquid - 38956
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

At least Liquid Snake pulled off being a "clone" well.

I assume you despise Wario, too, then, Slow?
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Shadow > Liquid.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”

Now you're just being ridiculous.

Still, Solidus > Both.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Dark Link > All other clones.
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"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

Well, I actually like Shadow, unlike you, Slow, and swirl... hell, pretty much the entire board.

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“You see, at this point… I’m pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.”