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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 133
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:48:57 PM | Message Detail
If Wind Waker went up against SSBM, SFF would be a factor in the match and SSBM would win decisively.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:50:14 PM | Message Detail
I think SSBM and WW are too close in strength for there to be SFF at all, much less significant SFF (see also: Wind Waker/Metroid Prime, Bowser/Yoshi, Yoshi/Luigi, Mega Man/Zero).
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:50:42 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and Cloud/Sephiroth. Can't forget that one.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:50:55 PM | Message Detail
Come on, Ocelot, hit that 34%!

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:51:42 PM | Message Detail
Perhaps. I guess it depends.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:52:35 PM | Message Detail
I figure the fanbase would be more evenly split the closer two are in strength, so SFF ceases to be a significant factor in such a match.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:54:15 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and Bowser/Ocelot broke 80,000 votes. It'd be nice if this match ended exactly 66/34. We could just refer back to my post earlier in this topic for the exact numbers for Ocelot, Wily, and Nemesis.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:56:13 PM | Message Detail
Bowser 66% 54051
Revolver Ocelot 34% 27839
TOTAL VOTES 81890

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:56:59 PM | Message Detail
Now just hold that for 4 more minutes!
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:57:44 PM | Message Detail
I highly doubt that Wind Waker would even make a game of that match. I think SSBM would win in Yoshi/Luigi like fashion.

And yes RPGuy, my ultimate plan is to get everyone knowing for a fact that Magus is the strongest character in these contests. He threw the matches in 2003 and 2004 to give everyone else a fair chance. The true Magus would let no one break 15% on him.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/27/2005 11:58:24 PM | Message Detail
I think SSBM would win in Yoshi/Luigi like fashion.

So? That's still a relatively close match.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:00:48 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth 42.59% 23
Liquid Snake 57.41% 31
TOTAL VOTES 54

Liquid Snakes winning! For the first 5 secs anyway.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:00:52 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth 43.14% 22
Liquid Snake 56.86% 29
TOTAL VOTES 51


It won't last, but it's cool to see.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:00:56 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth 44% 22
Liquid Snake 56% 28
TOTAL VOTES 50

Nicely done, Liquid.

69.54% of the brackets had Bowser in the Final Four.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:01:00 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth 35.48% 11
Liquid Snake 64.52% 20
TOTAL VOTES 31

Enjoy it, Liquid. It's already gone.
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:01:13 AM | Message Detail
OMG TEH BOARD 8 VOTE!~!!!

SEPHIROTH 42
LAKE 44

WOAHMG

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Against Kefka, HaRRicH said Wesker < 43%. I said Wesker > 43%...
...turns out 29.63% < 43%, as well as HaRRicH > CaptainFlufflez. Learn to love it.
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:02:25 AM | Message Detail
...Wow, four posts showing Liquid winning each four seconds apart from each other.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:02:43 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and we're down to 4 perfects left, including the Ganondorf winner.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:02:56 AM | Message Detail
Finally, my main makes the leaderboard.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:03:29 AM | Message Detail
Heeey, Leon and I voted back to back. Cool.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:05:15 AM | Message Detail
Congrats, Lucid. For the sake of both our brackets, I hope it only moves up.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:05:49 AM | Message Detail
Bringing back an earlier post from the topic. Nice little serendipity there for Ocelot to finish with an even percentage.

Ocelot finishes with 34% - 21.05% (right below Jak)
Dr. Wily - 19.15% (between Max Payne and Crash Bandicoot)
Jill beats Nemesis (19.08%) with 57.91%
Nemesis beats Wesker with 64.67%
Jak beats Wily with 54.57%

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:06:27 AM | Message Detail
Definitely, yoblazer. I knew you were one of the people that had the same bracket as mine. I think there were a couple others, can't remember who.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:07:03 AM | Message Detail
Heh, cn's updater caught Liquid's brief lead. Very nice.
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From: Rodri316 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:10:18 AM | Message Detail
Good job, Lucid :)
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Current Match Prediction -- Sephiroth vs. Liquid Snake
Spring 2005 Contest -- 35/36 points
From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:13:12 AM | Message Detail
Despite what the extrapolateds say, I would put Ocelot and Wily a lot further up in the standings. Also I think a matchup like Jill vs. Wesker or Jill vs. Nemesis would be irrelevant to the x-stats b/c it would very shifted by SFF like we saw in Mario/Bowser Link/Ganon etc....

IMHO I would say that an interesting matchup in the summer contest would be Ocelot vs. Dante. For Wily I would say a close matchup would be more against someone like Scorpion. Just an opinion, so please don't flame me all you x-stats fanboi's out there.

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Against Kefka, HaRRicH said Wesker < 43%. I said Wesker > 43%...
...turns out 29.63% < 43%, as well as HaRRicH > CaptainFlufflez. Learn to love it.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:15:55 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and just as a reminder for those of us who are number-crunching stat junkies, here's what Sephiroth is projected to get on 20XX-adjusted Liquid and unadjusted Liquid:

Adjusted - 65.53%

Unadjusted - 68.51%
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:16:24 AM | Message Detail
Man... Sephiroth didn't waste any time putting this one away.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:17:13 AM | Message Detail
And Sephiroth's already over 70% here against Liquid. Perhaps another MGS dive?
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:17:52 AM | Message Detail
Liquid is getting flat out killed. I can't exactly see the day vote doing him any favors either.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:18:39 AM | Message Detail
The day vote definitely won't help him. Cloud and Sephiroth are generally pretty good with it and Liquid lost it to Lavos (and as we know, CT characters are generally pretty bad with it).
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:18:54 AM | Message Detail
I know Liquid Snake was underwhelming against Lavos, but I'm surprised Sephiroth has well over 70% this early in the match. Sheesh, what will the final percentage be, 74% or something? o_O

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:19:45 AM | Message Detail
IMHO I would say that an interesting matchup in the summer contest would be Ocelot vs. Dante.

It's only interesting if you like 60/40 matches.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:19:53 AM | Message Detail
Damn. Liquid... =(
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:20:00 AM | Message Detail
Gah, I knew 2 perfects would fall... if it's 66/34, then that means 2/6 people got it wrong, and I was right -_-
Why can't that Ganondorf bracket just die already? I hope the Kefka/Diablo match doesn't kill the other three :(
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HRC total: 77592.6
Vote for Kefka? >_>;;
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:20:12 AM | Message Detail
I find it odd that Liquid got the day vote against Frog, but not Lavos.
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:21:54 AM | Message Detail
60/40 assuming that the x-stats are right which of course they always are....
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Against Kefka, HaRRicH said Wesker < 43%. I said Wesker > 43%...
...turns out 29.63% < 43%, as well as HaRRicH > CaptainFlufflez. Learn to love it.
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:22:11 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth 70.29% 1337
Liquid Snake 29.71% 565
TOTAL VOTES 1902
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HRC total: 77592.6
Vote for Kefka? >_>;;
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:23:05 AM | Message Detail
I still wouldn't be surprised to see Liquid top 30%...though it wouldn't be by much.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:23:08 AM | Message Detail
60/40 assuming that the x-stats are right which of course they always are....

You can knock the stats all you want, but there's no way Ocelot suddenly makes up that large of a gap. Heck, 60/40 is being generous to Ocelot. It'd actually be worse than that.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:23:26 AM | Message Detail
So who will wind up being last in the standings? Giygas, Pyramid, or someone else?

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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:24:14 AM | Message Detail
Luca Blight.
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BANG BANG BANG VIPER BEAM!
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:24:17 AM | Message Detail
I think Pyramid Head's got it unless Bowser increased. Then it'll be a fight between him and Giygas.
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From: outback | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:24:47 AM | Message Detail
Albedo?

Lose to Bison -> Diablo -> Kefka (possibly) -> Ganondorf -> Sephiroth
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From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:25:26 AM | Message Detail
Ocelot vs. Dante? 55-45, Dante.

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:26:05 AM | Message Detail
Luca or PH... maybe Giygas if Bowser went up or Ganondorf is in fact a good deal overrated.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:26:37 AM | Message Detail
Note that Ocelot ranks lower than Tails, who only got 42.60% on Dante.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:27:22 AM | Message Detail
Bowser's got to be stronger this contest. I refuse to believe that Ocelot would lose to Jak. It's madness, madness I say! *hides from Leonhart*
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:27:53 AM | Message Detail
If Sephiroth gets up to 74% then Liquid would be expected to pretty much beat Vergil by near the same amount he was expected to beat Dante in 2k4....
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/28/2005 12:27:56 AM | Message Detail
Well, I dunno if he'd lose to Jak. They're practically even.

Wily, on the other hand...
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