the only argument that can be made about Trance Kuja being a bad picture is that people didn't know who it was. Trance Kuja itself is awesome.

this is making me feel better about picking Sin > Kuja, but seeing Kuja being absolute fodder is sad. I wish we had a returning character in this 4-pack so we could see what Kuja's equivalent in the summer contest is. Kuja may end up being near CATS' level, and that's just wrong.

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the only argument that can be made about Trance Kuja being a bad picture is that people didn't know who it was. Trance Kuja itself is awesome.

Or the fact that to anyone who didn't know the awesomeness of T-Kuja, he looked like a female puppet with bad hair. Which, when put up against a hand shooting freaking laser beams, did not bode well for him drawing the votes of many people who didnt already know who he was.
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

Megaman VS Sonic would be a very hard match to predict.

You're... kidding me... right?

You know, if you don't adjust Mega Man, he falls below Sonic, right?
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

You know, Sonic only got 42.5% against Samus. Mega and Samus are close in strength.

I'd take Mega over Sonic 53-47.
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Robotnik vs. Master Hand - Bracket: Kuja - Vote: Robotnik (26/30)

You know, Sonic only got 42.5% against Samus. Mega and Samus are close in strength.

IF you adjust Mega Man. Look at how badly Cloud beat Sonic. Then look at how much worse Link beat Mega Man. Finally, look at how close Link/Cloud is.

Now tell me it couldn't be close.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Now that we're at the end of round 2....

I think it's pretty safe to say who the star of the round is, but who gets the award of being "turd?" This match today almost warrants bringing Kuja back to win it again.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

That just doesn't sit right with me when both 2002 and 2003 Megaman could clearly beat Sonic. I don't see why 2004 should be any different.
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L I T T L E M O N E Y

And yet it's strange how the stats for Sephiroth and Mega Man in 2004 give almost the exact same percentage as their match did in 2003, isn't it?

That would indicate that perhaps, instead of both of them taking big drops, Sephiroth overperformed on Cloud and took Mega Man along for the ride.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Uh, safe to say who the star of the round is?

Bowser totally thrashed Sigma. Kefka put up 70% on Wesker and Diablo beat Bison. On a lesser note, Robotnik is thumping the contestant everyone wants to see gone.

Am I missing the obviousness?
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“TheRye is like Jesus, if Jesus ever played video games.” -Inviso

Bowser and Diablo did what they were supposed to do, and Diablo didn't even do it as easily as people thought he would. Bowser and Kefka did better than we expected, but still their matches were never in doubt.

Robotnik turned what just about everyone expected to be a decently close match into a blowout.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

I think the star of the round is Kefka.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr05/b21.jpg

Look at that pic and tell me he isn't the star.
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L I T T L E M O N E Y

*looks*

He isn't the star.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Well who asked you anyway.
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L I T T L E M O N E Y

Well, you told me to look and say he wasn't the star. I did.

Honestly, after Ganondorf's underwhelming performance and seeing Kefka beat Wesker as badly as he'd be expected to beat Luca, that seems to tell me more that Magus messed up our stats in 2003 than it does that Kefka's angel picture suddenly gave him such a large increase.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Bowser/Sigma - Sigma is a possible turd contender.

Ocelot/Wily - Expected

Seph/Vergil - Expected

Lavos/Liquid - Liquid is a possible turd contender. Only 55% against Lavos doesn't sound too good.

Kefka/Wesker - Kefka is a possible Star Contender. 70% really surprised us.

Bison/Diablo - Expected

Ganondorf/Ansem - Expected

Robotnik/Hand - Robotnik is a possible Star Contender. He just owned the junk out of Hand, especially when we thought the Hand was actually decent.

So I'd say Kefka for the Star, with Robotnik as runner-up. Sigma gets the turd with Liquid as the runner-up.
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Robotnik vs. Master Hand - Bracket: Kuja - Vote: Robotnik (26/30)

I wouldn't say Ocelot/Wily (at least the margin of victory in any event) was expected, especially after round one.

I seem to recall somebody saying they would "sell their soul" to be able to change their bracket to Wily beating Ocelot.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

That would indicate that perhaps, instead of both of them taking big drops, Sephiroth overperformed on Cloud and took Mega Man along for the ride.
I don't like that idea, as '03 was Ryu's weakest year as is. I can't see him being lower than that. That would also make Crono and Mario weaker, as well. Though not as important, Duke Nukem and Ryo Hazuki would both seem too low, too.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Regardless, even if it's not the case, I'm not entirely sold on Mega Man's instantly receiving his 2003 value to "adjust" the 20XX Division.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Oh, hot damn. Robotnik is just dominating Master Hand. Allow me to say that Ganon will probably receive some competition now. Heh.

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“Now, Protoss, you shall know my wrath. Now you will know the fury of the Queen of Blades!” - Kerrigan

I thought that was a given after yesterday. There was no way the winner of this round would be close to Ansem.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

What I meant is that I don't assosciate the two. They would perform differently in a contest; they're not interchangeable.

I agree. Dark Samus would likely perform as one of the strongest in the contest while Metroid Prime would be lower due to not having Samus's name in there.

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“Now, Protoss, you shall know my wrath. Now you will know the fury of the Queen of Blades!” - Kerrigan

Kuja's picture definately hurt him more than anything

No, it did not. Kuja's picture was quite possibly the best one for that situation. And nearly everyone here wanted to see him get that one, or at least those few lost souls who like him.

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“Now, Protoss, you shall know my wrath. Now you will know the fury of the Queen of Blades!” - Kerrigan

I thought that was a given after yesterday.

What, that Ganon would receive competition? Yesterday's performance wouldn't say anything like that.

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“Now, Protoss, you shall know my wrath. Now you will know the fury of the Queen of Blades!” - Kerrigan

Sure it was. You said he wouldn't fall below 70%. After failing to triple Ansem, it was a given he would. Neither of these two were going to be THAT weak.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

If Master Hand and Robotnik were having another close match, I would still stick by the 70%, or close to it. It isn't as though any of these characters here are anything in the way of strength. And it makes me want to shoot myself for ever thinking about Kuja over Kefka after today. That match wouldn't even be remotely close. >.<

I suspect that Ganon will indeed fall under 70%, but it shouldn't be too far below it.

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“Now, Protoss, you shall know my wrath. Now you will know the fury of the Queen of Blades!” - Kerrigan

What would Ganon be expected to get on Tails? I expect Robotnik to do slightly better.
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ZSB [aX]

Considerign that MH hasn't been taking any sizable boosts and doesn't look like he will it's not going to be fair at all to extrapolate Kuja. I'm not calling it foul play, but I am calling a foul smell if MH doesn't at least pull a Duck Hunt this afternoon.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Tails would get 33.52% on an adjusted Ganon.
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Robotnik vs. Master Hand - Bracket: Kuja - Vote: Robotnik (26/30)

Well looks like my pre-contest position that Robotnik was greater or equal to Tails might turn out to be true.
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"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

Robotnik's percentage does seem to be falling at the moment.

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“Now, Protoss, you shall know my wrath. Now you will know the fury of the Queen of Blades!” - Kerrigan

I think Ganon will barely double Robo, if even.

I didn't plan to do any write-up, but I'm still going to give out awards regardless:

Star of the round: Kefka. A static Luca would put him around Dante. Ouch. At this pace he'll be champ three years from now, and you won't see me complain about it. Add Diablo looking vulnerable after his match against Bison, and he has a great chance to live up to his status of favorite in the Ruin division.
Honorable mention: Eggman. It's not every day that you see an obviously average competitor utterly destroy an upset special.
Also considered: Bowser.

Turd of the round: Sigma. His performance against Bowser was nothing short of Hall of Shame-worthy. For one who got talk to be the superior MM villain for hailing from the X series...
Dishonorable mention: Liquid Snake. I'd have loved to see him lose, but from an objective standpoint, he should never have let Lavos come so close.
Also considered: Wesker.

Salvation award: Eggman. After being involved in the closest match in the contest yet, he turns around and destroys a guy who beat someone who was supposed to be stronger than the first opponent.
Honorable mention: Ocelot. After failing to get 55% on Nemesis, he gets an almost identical score against the theoretically more fearsome Dr. Wily. Good for him.
Also considered: Lavos, Ansem.

Posthumous star award: Nemesis. See Ocelot. If you told me this guy would be able to hang with Wily and thrash Wesker before the contest began, I'd have called you nuts.
Honorable mention: Mother Brain. She may very well be stronger than Ridley from what we've seen so far. Now, that's just wrong, but what do I know...
Also considered: CATS, Sin.

Posthumous turd award: Kuja. If I didn't set this category aside, he'd have won the real turd. Who thought he'd be the weakest of the four-pack, and by such a large margin to boot?
Dishonorable mention: Ridley. See Mother Brain. Ouch for a fan-favorite that's been attempting to get in a contest for years.
Also considered: Luca, Albedo.

In danger of not being seen again in a real character battle: Ken. If Bison turns out to be all that and a bag of chips, he might well take Ken's place.
Dishonorable mention: Tails. Unless you're OK with having five Sonic characters...
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

I have no problem with those five Sonic characters, but Iw ould have a problem if Amy, Cream, Big, Rouge, any other Sonic character except M Sonic, Fang, Mighty and Espio would make it.
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Zelos: Don't hate me just because I'm beautiful.

I can't imagine supporting more than 5 Sonic characters, and I have a hard time even seeing that many. I think we'll still be Robotnik-less this summer, though we could lose Tails. Of course, look at the number of Mario characters in 2k3 (Mario, Luigi, Wario, Yoshi, Bowser), that'll give you an idea of where are limits lie.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

I really wish Ceej would release the nomination data. It'd be fun to see who was close and all.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

*sings the "I told you so" song*

Kuja is weak. Get used to it.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 30, Rank: 9 (T1), Pick: Master Hand
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Already used to it and over it.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Well, if Ganondorf fails to double Eggman, I'm all for ditching Tails in favor of Eggman. I think three good guys and a villain are a better balance of forces than four good guys period. Plus, the character battle lacked big-name (as in, non-fodder) villains as it is. We have Sephiroth, Ganondorf, Bowser, Liquid, Kefka, and that's about it. The contest could use Eggman as a mainstay.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

Actually, if Robo doesn't take 40% on ganon I'm calling him weaker than Tails.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Robotnik's lead just broke 10,000. Heh, Master Hand could do the same thing with the after-school vote as he did against Kuja and he'd only cut the margin in half.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

And if he doesn't I will forever call Kuja's place in the XSt as being wrong.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

From: SubZer0619 | Posted: 5/26/2005 12:25:29 PM | Message Detail
Bowser v Ocelot = Bowser (think i may be wrong)
Sephiroth v L. Snake = Sephiroth
Kefka v Diablo = Kefka (think i may be wrong)
Ganondorf v Robotnik = Ganondorf (think i may be wrong)

After this I have:
Bowser v Sephiroth = Sephiroth
Kefka v Ganondorf = Ganondorf

Then:
Sephiroth v Ganondorf = Sephiroth


That right there means, if Kefka goes over Diablo we have ourselves a perfect bracket.
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Insomnia is like having immortality, except you're gonna die. ~PepsiPlunge

Still not a great accomplishment seing as we're talking about half as many matches as the big show.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

The sad thing is...It'd be a perfect bracket by luck because he's questioning Bowser over Ocelot and Ganondorf over Robotnik.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

I never said it was an accomplishment, I was just stating that there would be one.
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Insomnia is like having immortality, except you're gonna die. ~PepsiPlunge

HARRICH: YOU SOLD YOUR SOUL AGAINST THE DEVIL, AND AS A PRICE, YOU PAY THE FIRST EVER PERFECT BRACKET. HA HA HA!!!

Personally, I don't think that Liquid sucked at all. I couldn't imagine Chrono Trigger fans caring much more about Frog than about Lavos.
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"I don't care about your instrument! My god is communicating with me!"
- Ludwig van Beethoven

I couldn't imagine Chrono Trigger fans caring much more about Frog than about Lavos.

Uppercase O, underscore, uppercase O.

And by the way, those who were laughing at Cena yesterday... his prediction was actually the closest. Ouch.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

Funny, since Frog is nearly as popular in the polls as Magus is. So are you saying that CT fans don't care much more for Magus than they do Lavos?
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

The sad thing is...It'd be a perfect bracket by luck because he's questioning Bowser over Ocelot and Ganondorf over Robotnik.

Or maybe he's just being extremely humble and we're all too damn blind to see it. When's the last time you saw a humble person here?
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.