Wow I wake up and see this... I can't believe Kuja is this weak... Man FFIX really is the forgotten FF besides Vivi isin't it?

I suppose Vivi just had the black mage vote..
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If Dr. Robotnik doesn't do well against Ganondorf, Kuja has a possibly of being ranked lower than a non-Square RPG villain.

That's just crazy talk.
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so........ it looks like Sin would have doubled Kuja. not many people saw that one coming, heh. it looks like i was wrong about Robotnik all along.


Sin>Kuja is certainly looking good at the moment. If Robotnik does win, I feel bad for the people who had Sin winning this four-pack--looks like they might have gotten screwed by one of the worst contest pics ever.

heh, a budddy of mine had Sin over Master Hand in this 4-pack and has been perfect with all of the other matches so far. it is possible that he lost his perfect bracket becasue of a picture of a fin.



At least I was correct about one thing: People DO care about Sin...even more than Kuja....nomination stats don't lie to you. X_x'

i do at least feel somewhat vindicated about that. i always stood by those nomination stats and it was one of the main reasons why i went with Sin over Robotnik in the first place.

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The hell? I was always one to say I thought Kuja was overrated, but I never thought he was this weak.

Or Robotnik this strong.
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Let's see.

Japan
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FF3- 1.4M
FF4- 1.44M
FF5- 2.45M
FF6- 2.55M
FF7- 3.28M
FF8- 3.62M
FF9- 2.86M
FFX- 2.33M
FFX2-2.05M

USA
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FF7- 2.45M
FF8- 1.91M
FF9- 1.34M
FFX- 2.22M
FFX2- 1.29M
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X-stats for Ganon's fourpack:

Ganondorf: 50.00%
Ansem: 25.56%
CATS: 23.50%
Giygas: 15.02%

CATS fans are in for a real treat for this one.
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Spring Contest Score: 24/28
Today's Pick: Ganondorf

FF7- 3.28M
FF8- 3.62M

Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
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Hold on while I do this real quick.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jeez if I hadnt picked Wily over Ocelot, I probably be on the leaderboard after this one.
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Ganondorf vs. Ansem - Bracket: Ganon - Vote: Ganon (24/28)

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/26/2005 3:10:16 AM | #269
lawrence103

Remember that name when you do your writeup, Slowflake.

~*ST*~

No write-ups this time, it's more a mid-contest thing than a post-round one.

Oh, and PWNED. Glad to see Eggman own that miserable joke of a "villain" *coughnotreallyavillaininthefirstplacecough*. Especially since the other PhD in robotics also lost to a hand.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 24/28 - Matches: 19/22 - Rank: 00848/24748 - Today: Ganondorf - Tomorrow: Kuja

K9 Advantix quickly s...Wait, no.
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I am a dragon. It's not a persona. It's not roleplay. It's not insanity. It's much easier to explain what it isn't than what it is...

Are you kidding me? This is gonna make Kuja look like Fodder of the highest level... so depressing.

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Is a stretch to assume CATS > Kuja in the stats? Or at least really close?
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And that's why I don't listen to you when making my bracket. If I did I would've lost 2 points and start blaming the board.
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Note of interest, since someone mentioned the 2-seeds flopping: in a 16x2 bracket, these guys would be 3s (Ridley and Wily, most likely) and 4s (Liquid and Kuja). So you can't really compare with the 16x4 brackets of old.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

After seeing Ocelot/Wily and this, is there any doubt that Robotnik>(>>)Wily?

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I would think that the were around the same
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I think Robotnik is a little stronger than Wily, Megaman VS Sonic would be a very hard match to predict. But Robotnik is nlike Dr Wily playable in the most ppopular 3d Sonic game. That has to give him a boost Wily can't get.
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Megaman VS Sonic would be a very hard match to predict.

You're... kidding me... right?
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

Robotnik BETTER be stronger. If not, Kuja really will rank lower than Mithos.

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There's no way I would believe OMFG Megaman did worse on Link in 2k4 than Sonic did in 2k3 on CLoud, yeah I know lets say he got SFF'D, even if none of the good Megaman games are exlusive on a Nintendo console. I like Megaman jsut as much as everyone else but he got SFF'D is for me a poor excuse for the MM fanboys to believe that he would win over Samus, Crono and Mario.

Of course Megaman VS Sonic better not happen anyway, because they are the two best characters in any of this contests, so I hope they won't face each other before the final.


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Well, I was expecting a close wire to wire match and it's all over already. Damn that's disappointing. Still, my zero bracket attempt will now finish on two points and not four.

Anyone else think that Diablo over Ganondorf is something other than silly?

Right, just about over the post European Cup hangover, time to do some work :-)
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Jon Thomson - 26/30, today: Kuja, tomorrow: Bowser
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Who said anything about exclusivity? Megaman's salad days were on the NES and SNES, and then he went poof.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

And by the way, in no way would Megaman ever beat Samus or Crono. Mario however, is a different story... if he doesn't SFF him too.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

The fact that Megaman has proved to be on par, and even a little better than Mario in a lot of situations is enough for me to take him over Sonic. Mario always beats Sonic at this website.
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After completing MP2, I think it is rather obvious that the two are the same being. Although to know this, you would have either had to listen to Retro Studios earlier on or gotten 100% in Metroid Prime.

What I meant is that I don't assosciate the two. They would perform differently in a contest; they're not interchangeable.
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-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Who said anything about exclusivity? Megaman's salad days were on the NES and SNES, and then he went poof.

Yeah. It seems to be more of a niche series nowadays (note: NOT CULT. I said niche.) Anyone have sales figures for MMX4-8?

Sonic has retained more of his old popularity than MM, which blows my mind considering how much his games suck.
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It blows my mind considering how much YOUR FACE sucks. Ahem...so sorry.

Dr. Robotnik has done all but win now, and in impressive fashion thus far. In all likelyhood, MH will make the percentages several points closer and might even cut into the lead some...but it looks like Robo should be able to fend him off.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Dr. Robotnik 64.23% 11966
Master Hand 35.77% 6665
TOTAL VOTES 18631

A lead of about 5,300 votes...that's just a lil' more than what MH gained with his day vote against Kuja, and the match isn't even a third of the way through.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
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*blinks*

...

Hahaha.

I AM THE EGGMAN
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Looks like the update script is broken. Does it stop at 7:00 for anyone else?
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 26/30 - Matches: 20/23 - Rank: 00816/24748 - Today: Kuja - Tomorrow: Bowser

Wow. Just WOW. Unexpected'D

At least now I can say that picking Sin wasn't actually bad. I mean Robotnik is KILLING MH and would slaughter Kuja. Didn't saw that one coming.

Before seeing this, Kuja Vs. Robotnik, who would you choose? I garantee you that a lot would had pick Kuja > Robotnik.....
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RPG/Square character /= instant win. Robotnik has proved such and owned my ass.

A lot of us DID pick Kuja>Robotnik. And I do believe that Kuja would be performing much more admirably than Hand is at this point. Figuring the Hand does what it did against Kuja, but to a MUCH lesser degree (given Robotnik has the Sonic day vote), he should get this under 60% before the end of the match, and I really find it hard to believe Sin would be that much stronger than Kuja.

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I've said all along that the winner of Robo/Sin would beat the winner of Kuja/Hand, and I predicted the whole four-pack right...except I though MH and Kuja would be alot closer to Robo and Sin than this.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

I think you do have to believe that Sin >>>> Kuja. This is very unexpected, but FFX and its characters will look stronger than FF9 always, and well...it's a bit sad to learn this the hard way. (seeing a match like this)

In this four-pack I had Sin > Kuja so I can't really talk that much...
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RPG/Square character /= instant win. Robotnik has proved such and owned my ass.

I had Robotnik > Kuja

that was my upset pick for the board.
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I definitely don't think we'll be seeing any close or exciting matches now. When M. Bison/Diablo is the highlight match of the contest, you know something is wrong. I suggest we name this thing the "Villains Snoozefest."
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When M. Bison/Diablo is the highlight match of the contest,

Ansem/CATS is clearly the highlight, for five hours at least.
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Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

I'd argue Kuja/MH, but right now I'm too busy gettin' Firefox to quit bein' a dumb-ass.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

I say that Master Hand overperformed by quite a lot on Kuja. All the factors were in place: SSBO, a joke character with a chance to win, a huge pic advantage... or maybe I'm just reluctant to admit that Who Cares? > Not Robotnik.
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Kuja's picture definately hurt him more than anything, there were many factors (FF9 being the least talked of of all the FF, for example): but I think using that horrible picture did the most damage.
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Contest Stats: 25/30 Next Winner: Robotnik

...don't tell me the picture's being blamed on ****in' Traunce Kuja, the picture that everyone I ever saw on this board wanted. MH got a nice pic too, but there wasn't any other picture I heard Kuja fans want than the one he got.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

I personally liked the Trance Kuja picture better, but apparently I'm in the minority.
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People wanted Trance Kuja for Super Saiyan factor. But we didn't get it with that one ;_;
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Well, now I feel a lot about Sin > Kuja in my bracket... >_>
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While it slightly decreases my chances of winning a prize, it makes me very happy to see Robotnik winning by this much. I'm an old-school Sonic fan, and I rather like Robotnik as a villian, as stupid as he is. The only thing that irks me is seeing how weak Kuja is. IMO, FFVI > FFIV > FFVII > FFVIII > FFIX > FFI > FFII > FFX > FFX-2, and although I never liked Kuja that much as a villian, it makes me sad to see how badly he'd lose to Sin, a giant whale in a very meh Final Fantasy.
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If Robotnik = Wily, Kuja is weaker than Ultros at the moment. If Robotnik = Wily, and Kuja wants to be stronger than Ultros, Robotnik needs to receive 61.10% or less against Master Hand. It's very clear that Robotnik > Wily. I'm afraid to guess by how much, though.

Sin vs Mother Brain: who wins?

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