I like Ridley and all, but I wouldn't call him memorable.

His boss fights make him quite the memorable character, he certainly isn't forgettable after playing through a Metroid game with him in it. He brings that kick ass boss fight to the table each and every time. Which, wait, yes, exactly what Master Hand is suppose to do.

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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

No Master Hand just suppose to float there and look all cool and evil.

Crazy Hand suppose to bring the beating.
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"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

Go ahead and take out whats in parenthesis there, HM. Ya know what you get? "and many people probably haven't been interested in playing the more recent games." The rest are just my personal comments, and I find it hilarious that you'd read that the same as if I had written: and many people (myself included) probably haven't been interested in playing the more recent games because they can't stand the 3d perspective being used for Metroid.

Two totally different sentences there, the first only being perceived the way you wanted it to be.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

While we've been debating this matter, Kefka/Wesker is ahead of any other second-round match thus far in vote totals except Seph/Vergil (remember this includes Bowser/Sigma and Lavos/Liquid)...and there's still more than an hour left. This is weird, what with Wesker/Luca bombing in vote totals and Kefka never being much of a draw. This is also Kefka's biggest win yet, as already mentioned. Perhaps this is leading up to the pic mattering for Kefka more than we once thought, though we need to wait and see for sure.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

Actually... his boss fights aren't THAT memorable.... You kinda just shoot him until he dies. Kraid in SM is actually more memorable, IMHO. Sure he's a hell of a lot easier, but you get to him much sooner, and the pure unexpected size of him was sure to have gathered attention.

His GBA fights were just the same as his SM fight. Just shoot him until he dies....

Metroid Prime was different, but I hate the fact that he was regulated to a pattern. I HATE patterned fights, which is why I detest the 3D Zelda fights. I actually liked fighting Omega Pirate much more. There was a FAR greater impending sense of danger leading up to him. And the actual fight with Omega was a little harder than Ridley to me...

Of course, these are just my opinions.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Maybe FF7 fanboys look at the pic and say "OMG, HE LOOKS LIKE SEPHIROTH!!!!" and act accordingly.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

"and many people probably haven't been interested in playing the more recent games."

Which doesn't hold an ounce of truth given its sales in comparison to every other Metroid title out there, with the exception being the original.

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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

You keep saying "with the exception of the original" over and over again. Doesn't that tell you anything?
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

The original was the only Metroid title to sell extremely well in Japan, that's where a good chunk of those sales come from. Every other Metroid game has sales dominantly from America, whereas the original was more even. And the fact that Metroid Prime outsold every other Metroid title does not suggest to me that people are not interested, unless you want to say that they lost interest after the original Metroid; not just at the start of the recent games.

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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

unless you want to say that they lost interest after the original Metroid; not just at the start of the recent games.

I'd almost argue that...but I refrain due to apathy.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

"The original was the only Metroid title to sell extremely well in Japan,"

One of those words still doens't fit with the others. Its sales weren't extremely good, far and away better than any other Metroid, but by no means extremely good.

"unless you want to say that they lost interest after the original Metroid; not just at the start of the recent games."

I'd sorta be a living example of this, wouldn't you say? Now, after all these years, I have interest in the series again (barring any 3d atrocities) but haven't been bothered enough to get to them still.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

One of those words still doens't fit with the others. Its sales weren't extremely good, far and away better than any other Metroid, but by no means extremely good.

In comparison to other Metroid titles, yes. 1.07 million copies in Japan out of a 2.73 million total would suggest to me that Japan had a very large influence on that games sales in comparison to other Metroids after that and even nowadays. MP has sold 1.93 million copies and nearly all of them come from America. Hell, subtracting Japan's support, the original Metroid goes from first to nearly last.

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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

I was just syaing that "extremely" wasn't the best word to use there. Halo 2 has sold extremely well, 1080 Snowboarding's sales were good (equal to Metroid's Jp sales, according to you). Besides, of MP's sales 1.26 million are from NA... that's highly comparable to the original.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Oh and that quote for 1080 is its NA sales, btw. Dunno its worldwide figure.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

And just for those who dislike my definition in this situation... EA has release 36 titles that have topped the million mark in NA alone in the last ten years, Nintendo has released 42 titles that completed the same feat in the same region during the same time. There are in addition several dozen other titles to break a million from other publishers. In the same ten years only 12 games have topped 4 million (or come within 100k of doing so), 3 of them have GTA in their names, 2 have Halo in their names, 4 have pokemon in their names and the other three were the big three titles of N64's early life (Mario 64, GoldenEye, Mario Kart 64). There isn't even a Zelda in there, that's my idea of extreme sales.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Oh, and while it matter little, I have Metroi'd Jp sales quoted at 1.04. Close enough to what you said for me, though, that eithr could be correct and I'm just happy with that.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Does anybody think Kefka will have less bracket support in his second round match than Liquid did?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

I'd expect it, after how he dashed the casual bracketmaker's hopes and dreams last time.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Nah, I'm almost certain Kefka will have more support. Liquid's four pack had more popular characters and provided better "casual" bait. Plus, Kefka's got the FF label.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

I'd expect it, after how he dashed the casual bracketmaker's hopes and dreams last time.

That didn't stop people from taking Crono over Mario last year.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

How come we have one of the most important matches of the contest coming up, and no one is talking about it? O_o
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www.SC2K5.com

Well, they sorta are, indirectly.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

I have a feeling the contest in general is putting people to sleep.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

73.34% had Kefka advancing.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

M. Bison 60.47% 26
Diablo 41.86% 18
TOTAL VOTES 43

Kefka got a surprising 73.34% behind him. Not bad at all.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

M. Bison doing *very* well in the early going...however, he lost the day vote to Albedo of all people, so this match isn't over yet.
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www.SC2K5.com

M. Bison 60.47% 26
Diablo 41.86% 18
TOTAL VOTES 43

...HaRRicH, that's exactly what my screen showed. We must have entered our votes at the same instant.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Well, Bison's already doing better than Ridley ever did against Diablo.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

I mean, you'd think Diablo as a PC character would be stronger at night; but the board seems biased towards Bison, and against Diablo.
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www.SC2K5.com

Diablo will probably take the lead once the board vote dies down.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

On Crono vs. Mario... at least Crono had always kept it close enough for it to be a possibility. Now, Kefka's well doing here is obviously due to being FF related as well as having no competition, as stated. I could hope he'd fall apart, at least. Oh, and cn, we were basically talking about it forever.

Now then, go go Bison!
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

You're talking about '03, right?
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"Akuma had a hadoken with fire too... and a hurricane kock"- FrostHarpy

I had a suspicion this is what would happen (BOTH Ridley and Diablo are vastly overestimated) but I never would have expected this.
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Early Summer contest prediction: Lloyd Irving loses first round.

I wouldn't lay bank on him falling off when the board vote ends, SF2 is always good during the night (suposedly Euro votes) so he should hold on well into the night if he's going to lose the lead at all.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

This board vote lead for Bison is great! I sure hope it'll last him through the day.

I love the pic advantage Bison has 8-)
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HRC total: 77592.6
VOTE FOR MASTER HAND

DiabloII.net isn't aware that this match is today, it seems.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder.

That's weird, though I've seen it happen to second and third votes sometimes. Never past the first five votes, however.

We need to keep an eye out for diabloii.net and see if/when they post their link here again, by the way.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman

As long as Diablo stays competitive for the first few hours, I'll be happy. I expect him to cruise during the day.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Both 02 and 03 kept it close (same %, in fact). The margin of victory was small enough for it to go either way in a repeat. Kefka got dashed upon the rocks by... knuckles.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Yeah, and Kefka was the bracket favorite in that match despite BARELY beating Pac-Man and getting destroyed by Crono.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Don't let the diablo guys know it's today!!

>_>;;
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HRC total: 77592.6
VOTE FOR MASTER HAND

Personally, I hope Bison keeps it up just to suffer those that spent Kefka finally getting his due talking about 60-65% for Diablo.

If Kefka sprites it for the rest of GF character battles, or Mog gets entered into one of these things, FFIII/VI will finally get the recognition it deserves!

Mog...?
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

In that case, you can't really count '02 as keeping it close, because that's the year Crono cheated with over 2500+ cheat votes.

So the only time he kept it close enough was '03.
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"Akuma had a hadoken with fire too... and a hurricane kock"- FrostHarpy

Bison is pulling away shortly but surely :D
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HRC total: 77592.6
VOTE FOR MASTER HAND

Yes, Mog.

GO PLAY FFIII/VI!

Forget Mog, let's get a main-like character... Terra, Locke or Celes (and they're in that order, if you ask me how GameFAQs would view things).
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

Bison peaked early and fell as the day went on.

Diablo started out low and grew the entire time.

So...
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L I T T L E M O N E Y

" because that's the year Crono cheated with over 2500+ cheat votes."

We didn't know that at the time, we were only vaguely aware of it.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich

****.
I still believe in the day vote, of course, but this is always unsettling.
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Current Match Prediction -- M. Bison vs. Diablo
Spring 2005 Contest -- 25/26 points