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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 130
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:14:02 AM | Message Detail
Ahem... there's SAND on my boots!
*Creativename's websites*
Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com
Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1
Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2
Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3
Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4
Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5
Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19
*Extrapolated Standings*
Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11
Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13
Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14
Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15
SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16
Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17
SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18
*Solarshadow's Sites*
Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html
Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html
*Old Stats topics*
Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)
2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.
Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm
Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm
*Match Pictures*
Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm
Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
*Miscellaneous*
Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php
MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/
Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25
All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251
!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
*Creativename's websites*
Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com
Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1
Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2
Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3
Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4
Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5
Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19
*Extrapolated Standings*
Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11
Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA
Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13
Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14
Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15
SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16
Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17
SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18
*Solarshadow's Sites*
Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html
Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html
*Old Stats topics*
Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)
2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.
Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm
Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm
*Match Pictures*
Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm
Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
*Miscellaneous*
Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php
MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/
Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25
All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251
!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:14:29 AM | Message Detail
What? So soon?
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: raytan7585
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:14:43 AM | Message Detail
*Kefka laugh*
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FFVI says "A Love Between Human and Esper".
Current Score: 19/24 Now: Kefka vs Wesker
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FFVI says "A Love Between Human and Esper".
Current Score: 19/24 Now: Kefka vs Wesker
From: StrongBad7343
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:15:13 AM | Message Detail
before the old one got 500?
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Vote in my best NFL Team Contest
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Vote in my best NFL Team Contest
From: Lucid Faia
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:16:59 AM | Message Detail
I'm convinced people ask the "so soon?" question just to aggravate Ulti. XD
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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: the7joker7
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:17:26 AM | Message Detail
I've got some faith in Kefka>Diablo now. Even if Wesker is really weak, it's still a very good thing.
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Go Mariners!
Playing: Final Fantasy V
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Go Mariners!
Playing: Final Fantasy V
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:20:29 AM | Message Detail
It's more a fad by this point, L.
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Lucid Faia
| Posted: 5/23/2005 11:23:56 AM | Message Detail
I think that in light of this match, it's a guarantee that the match pic makes or breaks Kefka. I'd love to see laughing sprite Kefka versus Diablo.
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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: Heroic Viktor
| Posted: 5/23/2005 2:43:54 PM | Message Detail
I would imagine that Kefka gets his in-game sprite next match, but whether or not he is in mid-'uwehehehe' is TBD.
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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostrea Din Tei for Trivia XV
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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostrea Din Tei for Trivia XV
From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 5/23/2005 2:44:50 PM | Message Detail
Lettuce hope that Kefka can put up a fight against Diablo. Bwahahahaha.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Starion
| Posted: 5/23/2005 4:57:45 PM | Message Detail
I assume the number was a typo because I can't find Part 129.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 4:58:31 PM | Message Detail
No, it's not a typo. You just can't find part 129.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: mr_BRIAN
| Posted: 5/23/2005 4:59:40 PM | Message Detail
That would be the result of Ulti mistyping Discussion in the topic title =p
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SpC2k5: 22/24 Next up: Kefka, Ridley >_>, Ganondorf, Robotnik
*is Janus5000*
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SpC2k5: 22/24 Next up: Kefka, Ridley >_>, Ganondorf, Robotnik
*is Janus5000*
From: Starion
| Posted: 5/23/2005 5:01:14 PM | Message Detail
You're right! Silly limited search function.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 5:02:21 PM | Message Detail
Just type in the part number into the search.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Starion
| Posted: 5/23/2005 5:04:52 PM | Message Detail
Thanks. Not that it matters much since the other topic is filling in fast anyway.
Hmm, Kefka is still at 70%. He might not do so poorly against M.Bison/Diablo after all. A 40%+ showing in that match wouldn't be out of the question.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.
Hmm, Kefka is still at 70%. He might not do so poorly against M.Bison/Diablo after all. A 40%+ showing in that match wouldn't be out of the question.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 5:07:23 PM | Message Detail
...When was a 40%+ showing from Kefka ever OUT of the question?
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Fiop
| Posted: 5/23/2005 5:08:42 PM | Message Detail
Ulti...just curious but have you read every single post in all 130 parts of this?
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Graduate of Duke University, May 2005! Woo!
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Graduate of Duke University, May 2005! Woo!
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 5/23/2005 6:44:58 PM | Message Detail
Ruin Division: Round 2 - Match 22 – (6)M. Bison vs. (7)Diablo
Moltar’s Analysis
M. Bison - WHOAMG STREET FIGHTER WON?!?!111!!.
Round 1 – vs. Albedo (M. Bison: 68.44% - Albedo: 31.56%)
After Ryu “upset” KOS-MOS, how could anyone not see this coming?
Diablo - The Spanish representative in the Contest.
Round 1 – vs. Ridley (Diablo: 57.65% - Ridley: 42.35%)
The most hyped match of the Contest is a dud! Diablo trounces Ridley
Alright Diablo, you might have gotten past Ridley, but that was only your first step through the fire, now you have to deal with M. Bison, who is looking very good right now. Can you do it Diablo? Can you pull a Starcraft on this division? We’ll see…we will see.
Since this is the first actual toss-up match that’s we’ve had in a while, let’s do some hardcore analyzing. M. Bison is from the Street Fighter series, and Diablo is from the…wait for it….Diablo series. Now both series are huge, but I am going to go with the Street Fighter series. I believe it is more mainstream and more popular on GameFAQs than Diablo is. C’mon, who doesn’t love there Ryu or Ken? Speaking of those two, they’ve been in Contests in the past. Ryu is the strongest out of the bunch. He’s actually one of the strongest non-Noble Nine (bet it’s been a while since you’ve heard that term) characters in the Contests. Ken is also pretty decent, and Bison hopes to follow in that trend.
So, should we go with M. Bison or go with Diablo? The choice is up to you and your preference. It’s hard to compare these two directly using the stats. The only thing we have is little hints and clues about where this match could go. In Round 1, Bison clobbered Albedo. Now Albedo must be nowhere near KOS-MOS in strength, but the gap between her and Ryu is much smaller than the one between Bison and Albedo. Diablo is much more tricky though, because he had no clue where Ridley is on the map, and we still don’t. The match between the two only showed than Diablo is stronger than Ridley. Even Mother Brain isn’t helping out too much in placing Ridley. Lavos was actually much stronger than we though, making MB stronger too. So MB could be stronger than Ridley in strength, when most assumed he was going to be weaker.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1340
One last thing we can look at is this 2003 poll. Samus vs. KOS-MOS. Samus almost managed 70% against KOS-MOS back then, and could possibly manage to get even more now thanks to her boost in 2004. Now that is quite the gap between Samus and KOS-MOS, and just imagine the gap between KOS-MOS and Albedo. Now M. Bison, Ridley and Diablo will all fall somewhere in between that gap…but where you ask? I have no clue.
Ok…let’s try and wrap this thing up. Right now, the stats point to a Bison victory. His numbers against Albedo were just to incredible to look past. Sure, Albedo could be weak, but we already knew that Xenosaga had a following with KOS-MOS, so Albedo couldn’t be…THAT weak. Using stats to try and find Diablo as well could take you in a bunch of different directions. BUT, if you went with Diablo over Ridley, you would probably go with Diablo here again. Meh, it’s your call here. Both could be powerhouses, both could be duds, hopefully everything will be settled later.
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Ridley will come back from the grave and win
Moltar’s Prediction is: M. Bison 44% - Diablo 56%
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar (GAC)
Lavos vs. Liquid Snake - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (20/22)
Moltar’s Analysis
M. Bison - WHOAMG STREET FIGHTER WON?!?!111!!.
Round 1 – vs. Albedo (M. Bison: 68.44% - Albedo: 31.56%)
After Ryu “upset” KOS-MOS, how could anyone not see this coming?
Diablo - The Spanish representative in the Contest.
Round 1 – vs. Ridley (Diablo: 57.65% - Ridley: 42.35%)
The most hyped match of the Contest is a dud! Diablo trounces Ridley
Alright Diablo, you might have gotten past Ridley, but that was only your first step through the fire, now you have to deal with M. Bison, who is looking very good right now. Can you do it Diablo? Can you pull a Starcraft on this division? We’ll see…we will see.
Since this is the first actual toss-up match that’s we’ve had in a while, let’s do some hardcore analyzing. M. Bison is from the Street Fighter series, and Diablo is from the…wait for it….Diablo series. Now both series are huge, but I am going to go with the Street Fighter series. I believe it is more mainstream and more popular on GameFAQs than Diablo is. C’mon, who doesn’t love there Ryu or Ken? Speaking of those two, they’ve been in Contests in the past. Ryu is the strongest out of the bunch. He’s actually one of the strongest non-Noble Nine (bet it’s been a while since you’ve heard that term) characters in the Contests. Ken is also pretty decent, and Bison hopes to follow in that trend.
So, should we go with M. Bison or go with Diablo? The choice is up to you and your preference. It’s hard to compare these two directly using the stats. The only thing we have is little hints and clues about where this match could go. In Round 1, Bison clobbered Albedo. Now Albedo must be nowhere near KOS-MOS in strength, but the gap between her and Ryu is much smaller than the one between Bison and Albedo. Diablo is much more tricky though, because he had no clue where Ridley is on the map, and we still don’t. The match between the two only showed than Diablo is stronger than Ridley. Even Mother Brain isn’t helping out too much in placing Ridley. Lavos was actually much stronger than we though, making MB stronger too. So MB could be stronger than Ridley in strength, when most assumed he was going to be weaker.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1340
One last thing we can look at is this 2003 poll. Samus vs. KOS-MOS. Samus almost managed 70% against KOS-MOS back then, and could possibly manage to get even more now thanks to her boost in 2004. Now that is quite the gap between Samus and KOS-MOS, and just imagine the gap between KOS-MOS and Albedo. Now M. Bison, Ridley and Diablo will all fall somewhere in between that gap…but where you ask? I have no clue.
Ok…let’s try and wrap this thing up. Right now, the stats point to a Bison victory. His numbers against Albedo were just to incredible to look past. Sure, Albedo could be weak, but we already knew that Xenosaga had a following with KOS-MOS, so Albedo couldn’t be…THAT weak. Using stats to try and find Diablo as well could take you in a bunch of different directions. BUT, if you went with Diablo over Ridley, you would probably go with Diablo here again. Meh, it’s your call here. Both could be powerhouses, both could be duds, hopefully everything will be settled later.
Moltar’s Bracket Says: Ridley will come back from the grave and win
Moltar’s Prediction is: M. Bison 44% - Diablo 56%
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar (GAC)
Lavos vs. Liquid Snake - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (20/22)
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 5/23/2005 6:45:12 PM | Message Detail
Ulti’s Analysis
As much as I'd love to rant and rave about this match, I doubt that it will be all that close. If Lavos is as strong as Liquid Snake would like us to think, M. Bison is in some friggen trouble here. Either Diablo is a powerhouse, or Liquid, Lavos, Ridley, and Mother Brain all completely suck. Dunno about anyone else, but it makes more sense to assume something about one character being strong than it does four characters being weak.
Diablo with 54.54%
Soul’s Analysis
Another hyped match. Bison almost got 70% on a weak Albedo. Diablo defeated Ridley with 57.65%. Now, the question is, where do Albedo and Ridley lie?
Without a doubt, Ridley is stronger than Albedo. We know that. I think he would have to get 61% on Albedo to give Diablo a shot. Hmm…
The closest we have to this match is with other characters from their respected games. Mother Brain got 44% on Lavos, Chrono Trigger's main villain (Magus not included). KOS MOS would get 34.10% against Samus, according to the adjusted 2004 X-Stats. Give or take a few since Samus has a new DS game coming out.
If those scores would go over to the villains, Ridley would get 66.90 against Albedo. Give or take a few since the conversions would not be exact.
So, Ridley could get 60%+ on Albedo. So, all that's left is the actual match at question, Diablo Vs. Bison.
Let's look at some outside factors for a moment. E3 would have happened weeks before this match. If the rumored Diablo 3 would be revealed, the fan base would go nuts. They would begin hanging around sites such as Diabloii.net, searching for updates about the game. Imagine, if diabloii.net linked to GameFAQs during that match. How much of a boost would Diablo get? That, of course, is not counting the relatively small boost from B.net or the boost from GameFAQs as well.
I'm thinking Diablo could take this match after all this. I'm predicting around 54.67%. Thus ending the Ruin division for this round.
Outback’s Analysis
Round 2... FIGHT!
What I don't understand about this match is why everybody is assuming that Ridley is going to be some sort of power, even by this contest's standards. Ridley is unimpressive in all the games I've seen him in. It's a big black dragon - who really gives a ****? I really don't consider a 58-42 win over Ridley to be that impressive for Diablo. Meanwhile, Bison is riding Street Fighter into the second round and rode Street Fighter to a 68-32 win over Albedo - more than everybody expected. Granted, Albedo probably isn't that strong, but I seriously think Ridley is severely overrated. I seriously don't care how strong Mother Brain is - she's a featured villain, and thus should be stronger than Ridley. I'm basing this pick on Ridley being weak as ****, and I'm gonna go with Bison.
Bison 50.15 Diablo 40.85
Inviso’s Analysis
Second match I’ve had to predict against my bracket, but this time, it’s simply because the character I had winning is gone. Diablo beat a Nintendo character, and my personal favorite of the Nintendo villains. He was never really in doubt of winning either. You can say he got help from outside sources (which I know he did) but the fact remains, those outside sources did help him win. And they are already planning on doing it again in this match. M. Bison scored a blowout…against Albedo, a villain that’s highly obscure, and from an RPG that is not from Square.
This match, I think will be close, and it could go either way. I’m gonna go with the hopeful possibility that my third favorite in this division comes out on top.
My Prediction: Diablo with 52.17%
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar (GAC)
Lavos vs. Liquid Snake - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (20/22)
As much as I'd love to rant and rave about this match, I doubt that it will be all that close. If Lavos is as strong as Liquid Snake would like us to think, M. Bison is in some friggen trouble here. Either Diablo is a powerhouse, or Liquid, Lavos, Ridley, and Mother Brain all completely suck. Dunno about anyone else, but it makes more sense to assume something about one character being strong than it does four characters being weak.
Diablo with 54.54%
Soul’s Analysis
Another hyped match. Bison almost got 70% on a weak Albedo. Diablo defeated Ridley with 57.65%. Now, the question is, where do Albedo and Ridley lie?
Without a doubt, Ridley is stronger than Albedo. We know that. I think he would have to get 61% on Albedo to give Diablo a shot. Hmm…
The closest we have to this match is with other characters from their respected games. Mother Brain got 44% on Lavos, Chrono Trigger's main villain (Magus not included). KOS MOS would get 34.10% against Samus, according to the adjusted 2004 X-Stats. Give or take a few since Samus has a new DS game coming out.
If those scores would go over to the villains, Ridley would get 66.90 against Albedo. Give or take a few since the conversions would not be exact.
So, Ridley could get 60%+ on Albedo. So, all that's left is the actual match at question, Diablo Vs. Bison.
Let's look at some outside factors for a moment. E3 would have happened weeks before this match. If the rumored Diablo 3 would be revealed, the fan base would go nuts. They would begin hanging around sites such as Diabloii.net, searching for updates about the game. Imagine, if diabloii.net linked to GameFAQs during that match. How much of a boost would Diablo get? That, of course, is not counting the relatively small boost from B.net or the boost from GameFAQs as well.
I'm thinking Diablo could take this match after all this. I'm predicting around 54.67%. Thus ending the Ruin division for this round.
Outback’s Analysis
Round 2... FIGHT!
What I don't understand about this match is why everybody is assuming that Ridley is going to be some sort of power, even by this contest's standards. Ridley is unimpressive in all the games I've seen him in. It's a big black dragon - who really gives a ****? I really don't consider a 58-42 win over Ridley to be that impressive for Diablo. Meanwhile, Bison is riding Street Fighter into the second round and rode Street Fighter to a 68-32 win over Albedo - more than everybody expected. Granted, Albedo probably isn't that strong, but I seriously think Ridley is severely overrated. I seriously don't care how strong Mother Brain is - she's a featured villain, and thus should be stronger than Ridley. I'm basing this pick on Ridley being weak as ****, and I'm gonna go with Bison.
Bison 50.15 Diablo 40.85
Inviso’s Analysis
Second match I’ve had to predict against my bracket, but this time, it’s simply because the character I had winning is gone. Diablo beat a Nintendo character, and my personal favorite of the Nintendo villains. He was never really in doubt of winning either. You can say he got help from outside sources (which I know he did) but the fact remains, those outside sources did help him win. And they are already planning on doing it again in this match. M. Bison scored a blowout…against Albedo, a villain that’s highly obscure, and from an RPG that is not from Square.
This match, I think will be close, and it could go either way. I’m gonna go with the hopeful possibility that my third favorite in this division comes out on top.
My Prediction: Diablo with 52.17%
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From: mr_BRIAN
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:10:44 PM | Message Detail
KOS MOS would get 34.10% against Samus, according to the adjusted 2004 X-Stats.
...KOS-MOS would get 28.61% against Samus.
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...KOS-MOS would get 28.61% against Samus.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:39:24 PM | Message Detail
Captain, I know what I want your sig to be:
Against Kefka, HaRRicH said Wesker < 43%. I said Wesker > 43%...
...turns out ##.##% < 43%, as well as HaRRicH > CaptainFlufflez. Learn to love it.
Naturally, ##.##% should be whatever Wesker finishes with.
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Against Kefka, HaRRicH said Wesker < 43%. I said Wesker > 43%...
...turns out ##.##% < 43%, as well as HaRRicH > CaptainFlufflez. Learn to love it.
Naturally, ##.##% should be whatever Wesker finishes with.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:49:46 PM | Message Detail
Diablo is taking the division with ease, yo.
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- Zeratul
From: cyko
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:55:03 PM | Message Detail
Ulti...just curious but have you read every single post in all 130 parts of this?
i'm not Ulti, but i'd be willing to bet that i am one of the few people who has read all 65,000 posts. man, that's a lot of posts.
and Kefka had better not get his Lettuce pic next round. >_>
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i'm not Ulti, but i'd be willing to bet that i am one of the few people who has read all 65,000 posts. man, that's a lot of posts.
and Kefka had better not get his Lettuce pic next round. >_>
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:55:41 PM | Message Detail
It would great if he did, actually.
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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul
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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul
From: cyko
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:58:36 PM | Message Detail
BTW - Starion appears to be our only Guru who stuck with Master Hand to
win it's 4-pack. well, without chickening out in favor of Kuja.......
-_-
however, Starion also had Ridley in the Final Four, so unfortunately for him, the Hand won't really help any of our gurus.
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however, Starion also had Ridley in the Final Four, so unfortunately for him, the Hand won't really help any of our gurus.
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From: arkenaga
| Posted: 5/23/2005 7:59:26 PM | Message Detail
In outback's analysis, it says:
Bison 50.15 Diablo 40.85
Now which number should be corrected? (I assume it's the second one)
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Bison 50.15 Diablo 40.85
Now which number should be corrected? (I assume it's the second one)
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:06:00 PM | Message Detail
I think I've read all of them since, say, #55; I'm not sure when I first started coming here regularly though.
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From: outback
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:10:13 PM | Message Detail
yeah, it should be 49.85 for Diablo.
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IT'S COMMANDER BAUKER! (TEAM ??????)
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:15:11 PM | Message Detail
Kefka's making a push guys...fear, for he pounds the upset-pick like a hammer.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:16:37 PM | Message Detail
500th post Sigged. And I'm off to play PSOBB
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: The n00b Avenger
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:18:27 PM | Message Detail
Wesker and Luca are going to look pathetic in the standings once Kefka gets LETTUCE'D next round and gets squashed.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:20:59 PM | Message Detail
We're quick to assume the lettuce pic is next. Granted, we've seen it
the past two years, but I think if he hasn't used it yet than he won't
use it period; perhaps he gave in from the board outcries and decided
to take Kefka more seriously with his pics?
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:21:40 PM | Message Detail
Still, I seriously doubt that Kefka will get a sprite next round. It'll either be the lettuce or the clown.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:22:00 PM | Message Detail
Oh, I just discovered that Konami was showing a US version of Beatmania
at E3 and that it's due out in 2k6. Buy it or I kill you all. Have a
nice day :)
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:23:15 PM | Message Detail
If Sephiroth and Kefka 2k4=2k5 then Luca will finish with 12.08% against Link (that's about .25% difference)
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:24:04 PM | Message Detail
I'm not sure about the sprite issue either; I just don't think there's
much of a chance Lettuce Kefka will be seen in this contest, especially
in such an important match if it hadn't been used yet. CJay might, but
until I see it, I think it's unlikely.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:24:53 PM | Message Detail
Then it'll be the clown. Honestly, Kefka doesn't have any good official art to choose from.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:26:13 PM | Message Detail
Actually, he could use this:
http://ff6.guide.free.fr/IMAGES/Angel%20Kefka.jpg
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http://ff6.guide.free.fr/IMAGES/Angel%20Kefka.jpg
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From: Haste2
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:27:31 PM | Message Detail
If CJayC uses "classic" pics for all the characters (which has been
done in Round 3 for past contests) the next round, I don't see why
Kefka couldn't have his field sprite.
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"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Mister Mario
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:27:33 PM | Message Detail
More like Beatlamenia.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:27:36 PM | Message Detail
After today's match, that'd be pimp. Really... I swear, I'm playing PSOBB now...
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing over half of the brackets that Ridley could win. - Harrich
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:28:45 PM | Message Detail
If CJayC uses "classic" pics for all the characters (which has been done in Round 3 for past contests)
We're in the equivalent of round 3 right now. This is exactly what Ceej did in the Sweet Sixteen last summer.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
We're in the equivalent of round 3 right now. This is exactly what Ceej did in the Sweet Sixteen last summer.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:31:43 PM | Message Detail
I don't think anybody's made this comparison since Bowser/Sigma went
down, so let's bring it back up; if Sigma = Wily, Revolver gets 14.93%
on Link, a lil' above Laharl...that makes him get only 25.85% against
Bowser, too. Ouch.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:41:26 PM | Message Detail
I don't think it matters what picture Kefka gets next round. He's going to fell pain at the hands of Diablo...
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/23/2005 8:42:06 PM | Message Detail
And yes, this is the sprite round.
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“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
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From: Lopen
| Posted: 5/23/2005 9:00:45 PM | Message Detail
Triple transitivity will be the doom of you. Bison's taking out the
trash. Count on it. (well, trash is harsh... but he'll be taking out
the Diablo, fo sho)
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From: NewLib
| Posted: 5/23/2005 9:13:28 PM | Message Detail
If Diablo beats Bison by 65 and assuming Ridley is atleast = MB. Not
factoring in an overstatement of LS 2k4 stats. That puts Diablo close
to BOWSER level. Puts Bison slightly above Scorpion. Puts Albedo on
level with Earthworm Jim.
Two things here. First Diablo close to Bowser is crazy. Second off Albedo being = Earthworm Jim is also crazy. I mean Luca great and all, but Albedo has been in two games which sales combined to atleast a million copies I believe. The second one which he is featured throughout the game as the main villian. And this is if Ridley is equal to Mother Brain which with all logic shouldn't be the case. So in fact, Albedo would lose to Earthworm Jim and probably be closer to Ryo Hazuki level.
Im not buying it and I hate Albedo.
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Two things here. First Diablo close to Bowser is crazy. Second off Albedo being = Earthworm Jim is also crazy. I mean Luca great and all, but Albedo has been in two games which sales combined to atleast a million copies I believe. The second one which he is featured throughout the game as the main villian. And this is if Ridley is equal to Mother Brain which with all logic shouldn't be the case. So in fact, Albedo would lose to Earthworm Jim and probably be closer to Ryo Hazuki level.
Im not buying it and I hate Albedo.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 5/23/2005 9:18:28 PM | Message Detail
I don't think anybody's made this comparison since Bowser/Sigma went down, so let's bring it back up; if Sigma = Wily
Probably because that's a lost cause at this point.
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Probably because that's a lost cause at this point.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 5/23/2005 9:24:02 PM | Message Detail
I understand it's a lost point, but it's still worth mentioning to finish it off.
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