Sigma may be from Mega Man but then again Tingle is from Zelda and Cait Sith is from FFVII.
---
BANG BANG BANG VIPER BEAM!

Cait Sith would probably beat over half of the people in this contest.
---
"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

Because it doesn't make sense for someone being from Mega Man, having the prominence he does in his games, being a recurring boss in nearly every MMX game, and then being as weak as CATS.

Again, it doesn't matter if nobody likes you. This contest has failed to make sense on numerous occasions, so don't use that card.

The ONLY thing that saves Sigma from a fate worse than CATS is if Bowser has increased, and even then, he'd be lucky to be on Laharl's level.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

You know, I just realized if Master Hand beats Robotnik, none of the gurus are going to even have marginally performing brackets...

---
RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostrea Din Tei for Trivia XV

Kefka's trying his hardest to stay above 70% here.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Does any Guru have MH in the Elite 8? There are two BOP brackets who do (even less than Starcraft last year...)
---
Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 22/24 - Matches: 18/20 - Rank: 00329/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Ridley

Anyone find it odd that Sin might be much weaker than both Lavos and Mother Brain? Or maybe Robotnik is just strong...yeah, right.

---
"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Let's wait and see.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

So, who does the stats topic have winning tommorrows match? Diablo or Bison.

Same with Robotnik/MH. What is the "official" call on those two matches, if there is any?
---
Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar (GAC)
Kefka vs. Wesker - Bracket: Kefka - Vote: Wesker (22/24)

Diablo would have to be considered the favorite, even though I'm personally leaning toward Bison. I'd say that Robotnik/Master Hand is a push right now, with an edge to MH.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Common sense dictates Diablo, and the old fear of upset specials makes MH the instant favorite as well. Let me dig up the BOP for kicks...

Diablo: 44
Bison: 11

Eggman: 20
Master Hand: 2

Out of 110 brackets, no joke.
---
Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 22/24 - Matches: 18/20 - Rank: 00329/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Ridley

consensus is probably with the devil and the hand.

---
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

I'm sticking with Diablo, and probably Master Hand too.

Nice to know we agree.
---
Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar (GAC)
Kefka vs. Wesker - Bracket: Kefka - Vote: Wesker (22/24)

Yes, I do believe that Diablo and the freakin' villain (if you can even call it that) in the contest are the favorites. Don't mind me... I am just gonna go hang myself with some piano wire.

---
RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Team Dragostrea Din Tei for Trivia XV

Master Hand winning should not force you to hang yourself, for he is awesome.

Although I've grown up on Mario and Sonic, I'm sentimental to the Doc.

Oh noes, who do I vote for?
---
O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio

Wow, I'm sure glad everyone's life is exactly like yours, especially since I've never met anyone IRL who's even heard of Chrono Trigger, let alone played it.

IRONY'D

Final Fantasy sold a bit better and found a small niche in the market, but it was far from popular.

Umm, Final Fantasy 1 sold over a million copies in the U.S., 2-3 million I believe. It wasn't Super Mario Brothers, but it was pretty big. Anyone have the numbers?
---
Supporting CATS in the Spring Contest.

Because it doesn't make sense for someone being from Mega Man, having the prominence he does in his games, being a recurring boss in nearly every MMX game, and then being as weak as CATS. You'll have to excuse me if I don't find it a little crazy to believe that someone like Ghaleon couldn't beat him. I could careless what the stats say in this instance. There's nothing I could hear that would convince me Ghaleon looks good in that match outside of pulling out stats.

HM, you seem to forget that Sigma just barely beat Andross. ANDROSS!!! i would not be surprised at all to see Andross run even against Ratchet. i mean, Fox isn't that much higher than CATS and find it even more difficult to believe that Andross would even be close to Fox. i really thought Sigma would be much stronger, too, but after struggling with Andross, i have accepted that he could just be that weak.

personally, i would see Ghaleon vs. Sigma being a very similar match as Ness vs. Jak. cult RPG character vs. mainstream action character that apparently noone cares about.

---
Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579093

HM, you seem to forget that Sigma just barely beat Andross. ANDROSS!!! i would not be surprised at all to see Andross run even against Ratchet. i mean, Fox isn't that much higher than CATS and find it even more difficult to believe that Andross would even be close to Fox. i really thought Sigma would be much stronger, too, but after struggling with Andross, i have accepted that he could just be that weak.

...I would take Andross over Ratchet without a second thought. Forget what the stats say at this current point in time, I just wouldn't even begin to consider Ratchet a threat to Andross. And Fox is obviously higher than his 2003 value dictates. It isn't a 17% value, excusing the fact that, that is already quite a bit higher than CATS. And doing that "bad" against Andross does not make me believe that he's on the level of CATS, because I find that absolutely ludicrous. Andross wouldn't have any trouble beating CATS.

personally, i would see Ghaleon vs. Sigma being a very similar match as Ness vs. Jak. cult RPG character vs. mainstream action character that apparently noone cares about.

The comparison between the two is that one is not only from Nintendo, but was featured in a very popular game called SSB/SSBM. Not to mention he had his own little pull from EarthBound. I fail to see how that comparison honestly makes sense given Ness's strength. It wasn't that Jak was that weak, he was merely up against someone who was far stronger than the stats said.
---
“. But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

Let me dig up the BOP for kicks...

Now how many brackets had Ridley over Diablo but losing to Bison?
---
Jon Thomson - 22/24, today: Kefka, tomorrow: Ridley
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

And I would say Diablo is looking to be a rather large favorite heading into tomorrow's match. I saw this close earlier, but now I just see it as easily going to Diablo.

---
“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

and btw - Kefka is STILL over 70%. ^_____^

so, the question i'm suprised noone asked yet is: who would have won between Knuckles and Kefka if Kefka actually got a decent pic like today's Angel Kefka?

current rough x-stat values with Kefka at 70% on Wesker:

Kefka - 25.57
Knuckles - 24.94

Kefka all the way!!!!!!

now watch, Ceej will totally insult us Kefka fans and use Lettuce Kefka next round and completely screw everything up. >_<

---
Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579093

Andross wouldn't be anywhere close to Fox anyway. Him being near CATS wouldn't be all that surprising.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Fox isnt that much higher than CATS meaning according to the Stats Fox would beat CATS 62-38 and there is more than good reason to think that he was SFFd by Link. Sigma is pretty weak, but dont going spreading fallacies.
---
"You can't hide from the Grim Reaper. Especially when he's got a gun" - Manny Calavera

Fox's percentage value is too low as it is. Basing him off of that 2003 ranking is far from accurate in placing Andross. There's no doubt that Fox increased whether it be SFF from Link or Star Fox: Assault - and I lean toward the latter more than anything. And when two characters are that far down the line, the difference between them will be much smaller than usual.


Ignore the stats, would anyone honestly consider CATS over Andross? Although I expect that many people will still keep the stats in their head when thinking about this. I don't think anyone would have even considered it before, so I don't see how it could suddenly make sense now.

---
“. But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

Basing him off of that 2003 ranking is far from accurate in placing Andross.

Well, we DO have somebody by which we can accurately place Andross. You know, Bowser.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Those X-Stat value with Kefka over Knux are SO wrong!

And I doubt Kefka would have done much better without the Lettuce pic. Kefka is just...having an on day today.
---
Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar (GAC)
Lavos vs. Liquid Snake - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (20/22)

Well, we DO have somebody by which we can accurately place Andross. You know, Bowser.

Which is fine if you want to put him there. But you will not find my agreeing with the stats this particular time. It is just absolutely ridiculous. I cannot believe that everyone will just go along with this either, just because it is what the stats dictate. Using actual common sense can play a bigger role.

---
“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

So I'm guessing you would take Sigma ALL the way up over Vyse just because he's a recurring boss in Mega Man, and therefore, he just CANNOT be that weak, right? After all, Vyse is too cult.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Ignore the stats, would anyone honestly consider CATS over Andross?

Nope. I nearly had Andross over Sigma.
---
Jon Thomson - 22/24, today: Kefka, tomorrow: Ridley
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Ignore the stats, would anyone honestly consider CATS over Andross? Although I expect that many people will still keep the stats in their head when thinking about this. I don't think anyone would have even considered it before, so I don't see how it could suddenly make sense now.

after seeing Ansem's pitiful performance, we know that CATS isn't a guaranteed loss. and if CATS got his face pic again, i'd be very tempted to pick him over Andross.


And I doubt Kefka would have done much better without the Lettuce pic. Kefka is just...having an on day today.

yes, Kefka is having an on day today. BECAUSE OF HIS VASTLY IMPROVED PICTURE!!! =P

---
Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579093

So I'm guessing you would take Sigma ALL the way up over Vyse just because he's a recurring boss in Mega Man, and therefore, he just CANNOT be that weak, right? After all, Vyse is too cult.

I strictly mentioned Ghaleon and only Ghaleon. I never said that other characters could not beat Sigma or that he wouldn't be weak; instead, I said that he would not be as weak as the stats say. They are not absolute on every single matter, especially this far down. Ghaleon is not only a villain, but comes from a less popular game than Skies of Arcadia, which has benefited its game to be released twice within the same generation. And I never even said that Sigma would obliterate Ghaleon; I merely said that he would not lose, and he wouldn't. Now, would I take Vyse over Sigma? Yes, of course. But I would not take Ghaleon over Sigma nor would I even think about taking Ghaleon over Vyse.

---
“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

So I'm guessing you would take Sigma ALL the way up over Vyse just because he's a recurring boss in Mega Man, and therefore, he just CANNOT be that weak, right? After all, Vyse is too cult.

heh, i was going to cite both Vyse and HK-47 as fair comparisons to Ghaleon, since HM didn't like the Ness comparison. and both of them are ahead of both Jak and Crash Bandicoot AND Protoman. (although - i do believe that Protoman was SFF'd by Zero, but i wouldn't be surprised at all to see Sigma lose to Protoman.

---
Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579093

I would be surprised if Sigma DIDN'T lose to Protoman at this point.
---
Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

so, the question i'm suprised noone asked yet is: who would have won between Knuckles and Kefka if Kefka actually got a decent pic like today's Angel Kefka?

That would be a question ask if that match was close, but seeing as how Knux won by 12K votes...

This topic is moving much more quickly than usual. I expected this to go faster than usual, but this is extremely fast.

Is anyone else surprised at this?

***
Albedo and I got PSYCHO CRUSHER'D by M.Bison and PepsiPlunge.

I'd rather get a crappy picture and see Kefka get 65% or so and save this one for Diablo. Angel Kefka might be his only chance.

---
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=21140912
---
General of the Knight's of the North
Jesus is awesome!

You know, Kefka has been stuck in the 70% number since 30 minutes into this one. It's amazing how static this match has been.
---
Can't keep a good man down, baby!

It must be teh cheatzor!
---
O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio

It's the irresistible farce vs. the immovable reject...both these guys suck at the day vote. They cancel each other out.
---
www.SC2K5.com

From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/23/2005 5:00:20 PM | #438
You know, Kefka has been stuck in the 70% number since 30 minutes into this one. It's amazing how static this match has been.

*agrees*

Is this some kind of record?

===
Will the PS3's cost just climb too high...?!
Albedo and I got PSYCHO CRUSHER'D by M.Bison and PepsiPlunge.

I'm going to start looking at the updates on sc2k5.com to see if it is. It wouldn't surprise me.
---
Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=20119594

Solid Snake/Tanner was in the 93-94% range the entire time, for what it's worth.
---
Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Yeah solid/tanner seems like the closest to this that I can find. Granted I'm only looking at matches that I'd assume stayed at least somewhat static (ie. not looking at mario/crono matches and the like).
---
Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=20119594

Sora/HK-47 was in the 65-66% range the whole time as well.
---
Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Nothing else seems to of stayed at the exact same non decimal percentages from 30 minutes into the match though.
---
Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=20119594

I'm ready for Diablo to show what he's got...

---
“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul

Man Kefka is downright refusing Wesker to take him under 70%

Albedo vs. Lara, who wins?
---
IT'S COMMANDER BAUKER! (TEAM ??????)
http://img132.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img132&image=bawk8ko.jpg

Lara Croft, without a doubt.

---
“But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.”
- Zeratul