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Contest Stats and Dicussion - Part 129
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:09:55 AM | Message Detail
Let's go, Wesker. Better than this, please...
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:10:26 AM | Message Detail
That or Sprite Kefka > Lettuce/Clown Kefka.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:10:49 AM | Message Detail
actually i fully expect wesker to gain a lot of ground back during the day. this is mostly bracket + board 8 votes going on right now. remember how kefka dropped against knuckles during the day.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:12:20 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, by all means, Wesker should do better than this by the end of the match...but him breaking 40% is a long shot right about now.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:12:52 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but that was Knuckles. A Sonic character. During the day. This is Wesker. There's no chance of seeing a drop like that.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: UItimaterializer | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:13:12 AM | Message Detail
Kefka's percentage will surely drop. It always does.

From: NewLib | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:09:37 AM | Message Detail
Well Nemesis > Wesker is pretty much COMPLETELY official now. And it even looks like Nemesis is greater by quite a margin.


This is about the time when I get to laugh at RPGuy for arguing so vehemently that Wesker was stronger than Nemesis and that Wily was going to beat Ocelot, both of which were claims based off of complete assumptions of the strength of new characters.

Of course I suck at actually making fun of people, but pointing it out is good enough for me. Don't worry, I still <3 you, Guy =p

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Get the X out.
From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:13:51 AM | Message Detail
Well, I got owned in the Oracle.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:15:03 AM | Message Detail
Kefka 69.6% 696
Wesker 30.4% 304
TOTAL VOTES 1000

So far so ugly.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:15:27 AM | Message Detail
No, this is very good. Go Kefka.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: UItimaterializer | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:16:16 AM | Message Detail
By the way, is it possible that Kefka is an example of pictures making a slight difference?

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Get the X out.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:18:17 AM | Message Detail
Not saying it's bad in the least, heh; just sayin' it's lookin' ugly...real ugly. As for the picture thing, let's wait for the rest of the day to go before we speculate too deep into it, but I bet it does have an effect when you finally get an in-game pic ass opposed to being lettuce or a gouged woman.

Gone to bed, g-nite ya'll. (work BLOWS)
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Robotnik
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000." --Cartman
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:19:40 AM | Message Detail
Kekfa is doing on slightly worse than what he was getting against Mithos at this time. So right now Kefka is doing exactly as he should be. We'll need to wait a few more hours to see if Kefka's percentage falls faster or slower than it did against Mithos.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:20:10 AM | Message Detail
This is probably the best pic Kefka could possibly get. I was hoping it would be saved for his next match, because he's going to need all the help he can get.
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From: creativename | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:21:28 AM | Message Detail
Kefka's a couple points below where he was on Mithos at this time, but I don't expect Wesker to be as strong during the day as Mithos would be.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:21:48 AM | Message Detail
Kefka 69.74% 1000
Wesker 30.26% 434
TOTAL VOTES 1434

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:22:25 AM | Message Detail
This is real ugly early.
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Jon Thomson - 20/22, today: Liquid Snake, tomorrow: Kefka
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:23:08 AM | Message Detail
Kefka just went back over 70%.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:28:05 AM | Message Detail
Something tells me that Diablo is going to waste Kefka no matter what picture he has.

Look at what has gone on ni this contest thusfar. Master Hand, a villain that suffers from the "I'm just the guy you fight at the end of the game because I have nothing better to do" disease, wound up beating Kuja.

Mother Brain, a villain that suffers from the "I'm just the guy you fight at the end of the game because I have nothing better to do" disease, did far better than expected against Lavos. Lavos, a villain that suffers from the "I'm just the guy you fight at the end of the game because I have nothing better to do" disease, turns around and does very well against Liquid Snake.

Sin, a villain that suffers from the "I'm just the guy you fight at the end of the game because I have nothing better to do" disease and owner of the worst picture in the contest, turned a 65-35 deficit against Robotnik into a respectable 2000 vote loss.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but Diablo is another villain that "suffers" from the "I'm just the guy you fight at the end of the game because I have nothing better to do" disease. Now if all the aforementioned characters can do so well, I fail to see how Diablo, a character who I would pick to wipe the floor with any of these guys, could be weak in the very least.

Bison will be lucky to break 48%, though bear in mind that I'm basing this off of consolefreak's math.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:28:47 AM | Message Detail
You know, I think Kefka is a bigger example of the Chrono Trigger Factor than anyone from CT is.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:29:40 AM | Message Detail
.....Are you suggesting that villains you don't see until the very end naturally do better?

>_<

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: TheRye | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:30:30 AM | Message Detail
Well I'm glad you came around Ulti, I really wasn't looking forward to writing an analysis of Diablo/Bison, considering I'm mathematically eliminated from the contest.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:31:07 AM | Message Detail
All I know is that 30 minutes into the match, Wesker is only managing 0.13% better than Mithos.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:33:44 AM | Message Detail
End bosses are typically memorable. You save the best for last when you maek a Villain. Look at Ganon... you only see him what, twice in OoT before the final area. Just because they are barely seen doesn't mean they're weak... if you can make a boss fight to remember then you've made a boss to remember. that, and it always caps off a game's total experience, so even if it's not spectacular the final fight is more memorable than any other boss fight that wasn't. For this reason "characters" like Lavos can do alright for themslves.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:34:55 AM | Message Detail
Actually it's 0.13% worse. It still comes down to who does batter in the day vote. Wesker lost it to Luca Blight, so that's not exactly a good thing for him.
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"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:35:25 AM | Message Detail
Kefka 71% 1528
Wesker 29% 624
TOTAL VOTES 2152

Wow.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:38:58 AM | Message Detail
...Yeah, if Kefka beats Wesker worse than he beat Mithos, I think we can agree that the match pic can make a difference, especially for someone like Kefka.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:40:24 AM | Message Detail
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 3:29:40 AM | Message Detail
.....Are you suggesting that villains you don't see until the very end naturally do better?


No, because I'm not an idiot. I'm suggesting that a villain isn't going to be weak just because they're little more than an end-boss or mid-Boss. These contests are becoming franchise voting affairs more than anything else, and thought games =/= characters, one would have to be a complete fool to disregard the fact that the game a character appears in is a huge factor. It isn't transitive by any means (I think Diablo would be stronger than Lavos for example, even though CT would beat D2 in a poll), but it's a factor that quite clearly exists.

Call it a hunch, but I think that Diablo is going to be an absolute powerhouse in the Ruin Division. I should have stuck with my initial instinct.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:41:23 AM | Message Detail
I'm so ****ing sick of this keyboard.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: creativename | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:41:32 AM | Message Detail
Lavos is way more than just the end boss fight--a huge amount of the game is focused on him.

And from what I've heard, it's similar with Diablo.
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From: Rodri316 | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:43:12 AM | Message Detail
Right. The battle with Diablo (at least in the second installment) is not extremely climactic, but throughout the whole game, you keep hearing about Diablo's naughty acts.
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Current Match Prediction -- Kefka vs. Wesker
Spring 2005 Contest -- 23/24 points
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:43:37 AM | Message Detail
Well of course they're both mentioned throughout the game... but a name alone isn't enough to put you into a character contest, let alone win you a match. tends to be they need to do something, anf a final boss fight is a memorable thing to be a part of. Look at the villains that are known powerhouses and tell me that they don't have memorable final bouts.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:44:29 AM | Message Detail
Eh, but you get the point.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Rodri316 | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:44:58 AM | Message Detail
Well, when the storyline revolves around them greatly, you're bound to remember them. Of course, a great final battle helps, too.
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Current Match Prediction -- Kefka vs. Wesker
Spring 2005 Contest -- 23/24 points
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:45:11 AM | Message Detail
Call it a hunch, but I think that Diablo is going to be an absolute powerhouse in the Ruin Division.

I think Diablo will be a powerhouse, period. I wouldn't be surprised to see him rank with the top 20 regular contest characters.

I should have stuck with my initial instinct.

Same here, though it was Master Hand in my case.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:45:46 AM | Message Detail
These contests are becoming franchise voting affairs more than anything else

But then why is Wesker doing so much worse than Nemesis? It probably won't stay this way, but at the current percentage Wesker would lose to Ansem. Ocelot would have to bomb pretty badly for Wesker to come out on top.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:46:20 AM | Message Detail
But then why is Wesker doing so much worse than Nemesis?

Sprite Kefka. >:)

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:46:55 AM | Message Detail
Speaking of Kefka, his percentage is still going up.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:47:43 AM | Message Detail
Muahaha, even though I've missed 2 of 4 matches in the second round, my Final 4 is still very possible, well, at least 3/4 of it is.

I got ONE battle in the Ruin division right. That's right, only the Kefka/Mithos one. Everything else was wrong, but it's good that he is winning against Wesker, though, I don't think Diablo will lose...

Go Seph, Bowser, and Ganondorf!
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HRC total: 77592.6
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:49:44 AM | Message Detail
Bowser in the top 20? Now way. I just can't see the finals being Diablo vs. Sephiroth and that's about what you're proposing there.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:50:56 AM | Message Detail
Err... Diablo in th top 20, rather. Had Bowser on my mind since, you know, he's fairly low in the top 20 and would likely be beaten by Diablo if he were that powerful.

Yeah, the idea is so insane it has me more confused than usual.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:51:46 AM | Message Detail
Top 20 might have been pushing it a little, yes.

But I didn't say Bowser. I said Diablo.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:53:17 AM | Message Detail
Right, like my follow up said, the idea is so insane that I can't even type what I mean. Top 20 is pushing it too far, and even top 30 is rather hard to swallow at first glance.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:54:20 AM | Message Detail
Right. You're the guy that thought I was "on drugs" for not having Not Robotnik winning two matches. I was pushing the number a bit, but the idea is far from insane.

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"MyWorldIsSNES" Score: 24, Rank: 26 (T1), Pick: Kefka
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/23/2005 12:59:36 AM | Message Detail
I have a feeling that Diablo is going to wreck Bison tomorrow and ultimately beat the hell out of Kefka. But I do not think that he'll be beating Ganon, or even getting that close to him.


But, wow, Kefka is doing about 11% better than I thought he would. That's... crazy.

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- Tassadar
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:03:22 AM | Message Detail
Top 20 may not happen, but Top 30 is guaranteed at this point. There's no doubt that Diablo is going to be putting up numbers large enough for him to walk out of this division without much trouble, effectively taking Ridley with him and raising him upward. It wouldn't be surprising if Diablo hit 60%+ on everyone he faced from here to Ganon.

After seeing his run, I would love to actually see Kerrigan in a contest. I'd feel much more secure about taking her over a lot of people after seeing how well Diablo may perform.

And I'm pleased that Wesker got his ass kicked. I was tired of hearing about how he was going to beat Kefka. Turns out he's weaker than Mithos.

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“Remember us, Executor. Remember what was done here today. May Adun watch over you.”
- Tassadar
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:03:35 AM | Message Detail
Kefka's percentage will undoubtedly drop during the day, as has been said. I'll wait until I wake up tomorrow before I say anything about that.

Kinda hard to believe that nearly as many people had Ocelot advancing to the divisional finals as did Liquid Snake.
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From: Rodri316 | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:03:39 AM | Message Detail
Diablo will not get over 55% on either M. Bison nor Kefka, but he'll get past them.
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Current Match Prediction -- Kefka vs. Wesker
Spring 2005 Contest -- 23/24 points
From: Cyrlous | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:05:00 AM | Message Detail
Diablo is weak in this contest, actually.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:05:12 AM | Message Detail
I'm very much questioning that. Diablo certainly has the potential to just do away with Kefka and Bison with absolute ease.

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“Remember us, Executor. Remember what was done here today. May Adun watch over you.”
- Tassadar
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/23/2005 1:06:22 AM | Message Detail
The potential, yes. But will he? I'm still not sold on the idea.
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