Everything, and I mean everything, said Samus should have stomped Cloud's face in. It may be just me, but I think that she is/was legitimately strogner than Link and Cloud indirectly. I'm actually afraid of her facing Sephiroth now... But however you look at it, Jill just isn't right in 2k4. I'm not saying I think nemesis is that high, but I know Jill isn't that low.

Only Samus vs. Lara Croft suggested Samus should've beaten Cloud. I blame Jill's poor ranking partially due to Hayabusa's pic against Sora. I mean, he looked worse in R1 than in R2. Sam Fisher bombed because he was clearly very weak, as Sam struggled with Freeman. I wouldn't call it out of the question to say Jill Valentine weakened, either...Wesker fell just short of 60% against Luca Blight. Plus, I wouldn't DARE rank Sonic's half of the division much higher than they are currently, as they seem ever so slightly too high as is.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Well, ya see, I don't want to blame the overinflation of Ganon and Tidus on Magus... and if Sam Fisher drops like that then we have to blame it on Magus. And don't get me wrong here, I'm not some huge Magus fanboy... it just that... I have a dream, a dream that someone can challenge those whom we once called noble and walk away the winner. Don't take that dream away from me yet.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

I've got this feeling that tomorrow's match won't be close one way or the other...

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“On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer.”
- Satoru Iwata

Really? I dunno. I still don't see either of those characters being too far off from eachother at tihs point (board hype had me Revolver crazy before...)
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Damn, I forgot how long ago I wrote that. It's damned funny now that I read it again.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Everything, and I mean everything, said Samus should have stomped Cloud's face in.

You mean, including doing 7% worse on Sonic than Cloud did?
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Yes, because we all know that Sonic is stronger now. :p Heroes probably did something for him, and Samus is probably righted herself towards the end, but like Cloud in 2k3 her early matches don't feel like they mesh up with her later ones.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Heroes probably did something for him

But definitely not 7%. It was minimal at best, unless you're telling me that Sonic now could give Sephiroth a run for his money.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

what the... 3 perfects went down?

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http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

89.79% of the brackets had Bowser advancing.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

and under 90% prediction...

Thre of the "perfect fools" fell off today, and only one of them had a non-Sephiroth winner. Yeah, I'm not seeing a perfect bracket as being likely at this rate.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Perhaps we didn't give Nemesis enough credit, after all. Ocelot's out to a very fast start.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Maybe my Ocelot prediction isn't so far off.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Nemesis > Wily? I'm not buying it. We'll see how this thing progresses.
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He needs nominations, 61! Nominate Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2) for SC2K5!

Keep it up, Ocelot. <3
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Nemesis > Wily? I'm not buying it. We'll see how this thing progresses.

After seeing what Sigma just did, that shouldn't be that big of a shock.

Granted, Ocelot dropped like a rock in percentage after a fast start against Nemesis, too. We'll wait and see.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Did anybody save a copy of the scoreboard after Round 16? I just realized I didn't save a copy of it.

Score-Brackets-% Right
16-----49-------93.8775510
15-----522------95.4022989
14-----1664-----95.1923077
13-----3372-----93.5349941
12-----5239-----92.7276198
11-----5460-----90.9890110
10-----4287-----89.0832750
9------2362-----85.2667231
8------1089-----80.5325987
7------408------76.2254902
6------138------56.5217391
5------43-------30.2325581
4------31-------6.4516129

All people with scores of 3 and below got the match wrong.

Three of the perfects managed to get this one wrong, all Top 50 members of course. I have no idea who they were though since I forgot to save a copy of the Round 16 scoreboard.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

I say crazy things but I'm not crazy.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

I'm thinking that Ocelot has simply received the early board vote. There is no way in hell that Nemesis is stronger than Wily is.

We all saw what happened to Kuja, after all.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Revolver Ocelot 58.62% 340
Dr. Wily 41.38% 240
TOTAL VOTES 580

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

This contest doesn't make sense at all, and it never has. Don't try to be logical with it.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Board vote or not we know Wily will close in during the day. It won't end like this, and if Kuja (and Kefka before him) has taught us anything it's that you can go from winning narrowly to losing badly with ease. Though it does seem to be a FF villain thing...
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

I love it! We were all saying how this would be a damn predictable contest, but look at all we've had to wade through so far...

And I will laugh my ass off if Nemmy ends up higher than Wily on the XStats.
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Insomnia is like having immortality, except you're gonna die. ~PepsiPlunge

Nemesis is a tentacle rape zombie, and Zombie>Octopus.
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This is stupid but what does ~*ST*~ mean?
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so close, so very close.

Remember: At this point against Nemesis, Ocelot was in the 60% range. It'll surely drop.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Oh, and have you people heard info about the new Zelda? It sounds friggin awesome.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

The new Zelda is the only game I've bothered doing actual research on.

Anyway, is it at all possible that Ocelot might be receiving a tiny boost from his picture, or is this all board vote?

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Well, at the current rate I'd bet we end up with RO > Wily > Nemesis > Ultros though RO won't be ahead by much. Hopefully he still puts up a decent performance against Bowser.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Zelda does sound and look amazing. I like how they really are trying to incoporate everything that would change if a human became a wolf (sight, hearing, speed, etc)
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

He may be a bit more recognizable to some, but the pic of Ocelot is just bad, esp on that background. He looks tooo goofy, like he should be in that one Nickelodeon cartoon (don't know the name, came years after I stopped watching Nick)... you know, the one with the girl... if he had a grey face he'd fit right in. Clearly this is night vote strength, and just enough of it tha tif Wily doesn't make a big reversal in the day he can maintain the W.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Whoa my god... apparently Miyamoto mentioned a new Kid Icarus game...
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Wily starting to fight off Ocelot a bit more, Ocelot winning pace has slowed down a little.

Im not hopeful at this point, though.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

this is a classic case of what you xstats believers call "SFF." No I do not mean to imply that Wily is getting sff'd by ocelot right now, but rather that Ocelot got sff'd by Nemesis. I believe we've seen trends of sff with resident vs. mgs characters before. Although I could be mistaken. It's definitely the best way to solve this obvious problem right now though. Also Ocelot could drop during the day like against Nemesis. Either way it makes the Ocelot/Bowser match to be at least a little more interesting. I'll even go as far as to say this means Bowser couldn't possibly get more than 60% on Ocelot. Although i'm sure any mgs fan would say that's obvious.
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|| BtT 3:34.65 || HRC 37,592.3 ||

Revolver Ocelot 57.76% 748
Dr. Wily 42.24% 547
TOTAL VOTES 1295

Lead breaks 200.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Die Wily! Nemesis demands it!

http://www.shinmugen.net/gifs/cfc/cfc2/nemesis.gif

RAWR!
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but rather that Ocelot got sff'd by Nemesis. I believe we've seen trends of sff with resident vs. mgs characters before

The only POSSIBLE case was when Metal Gear Solid tripled up Resident Evil in the Spring Contest.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Wily starting to fight off Ocelot a bit more, Ocelot winning pace has slowed down a little.

Said as Wily's percentage starts to drop and Ocelots lead starts to speed up.

Um, yeah.
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

Actually, I know we make quick remarks like that all the time, but if this is Wily fighting Ocelot off then this match is over. I went and checked and Ocelot was gainign back to the same % I saw him at last.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

No I do not mean to imply that Wily is getting sff'd by ocelot right now, but rather that Ocelot got sff'd by Nemesis.

That's actually not a bad point. I still think that Ocelot may be benefiting from his picture a little bit, though.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Resident Evil... Metal Gear Solid... SFF?

You guys DO remember what the SF in SFF stands for, right? How the hell do RE and MGS have the same fanbase?

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That's actually not a bad point

Yes, it is. Point out any time we've ever seen a case of reverse SFF, especially from games that likely don't even share enough of the same base.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Probably because they're the two most popular realistic series on the PSX.
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How the hell do RE and MGS have the same fanbase?

The same reason there may have been SFF in Link/Mega Man. You don't need a perfect overlapping fanbase for there to be SFF.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

On the contrary, how do they not share fanbases? If that comment was made 7 years ago there'd be no doubt... but even now it's not unfair to speculate that those sorts of games have a cross-over potential. Moreso than Mario has with either, wouldn't you agree?
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

The same reason there may have been SFF in Link/Mega Man

But not reverse SFF. We've seen no such case.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Action game fanbase maybe? I figured games like RE, MGS, Devil May Cry, Onimusha etc. have a large overlap in terms of fans.
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A soda a day invites tooth decay.

Flawed points aren't necessarily bad points. Speculation is good, it's only when we believe it wihtout any good reason (MM/Link SFF) that it becomes bad.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

So there was no rSFF in Mega Man/Zero now? Make up your minds.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal