well, here's the odds of there being a perfect bracket:

there are really 4 matches in question left:

Ocelot vs. Dr. Wily
Diablo vs Bison
Robotnik vs. Master Hand
Kefka vs. Diablo/Bison

so, if you multiply the potential winners (2x2x2x3), you get 24 potential brackets. that means we have a 1/24 chance of their being a perfect bracket.

Let's assume they're all coinflips. Ocelot-Wily kills 1/2 the brackets. Diablo-Bison kills 1/2 of those brackets. Robotnik-Master Hand kills half of those brackets. Now here's where you go wrong - Kefka-Diablo/Bison won't be three separate choices, because those who got the first one wrong will already have had their bracket busted - the only perfect brackets at this stage will, by definition, have got Diablo-Bison right, so you're having 1 in 16 coming through, not 1 in 24.
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Actually, since Bison/Diablo would be a coin-flip too, that makes it 1/32.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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Been a while since I've posted in one of these threads.. a LONG while..

I had Sephiroth winning this tournament, but now I'm having doubts. Bowser and Ganondorf have won impressively and I honestly wasn't that impressed with Sephiroth's win over Ramirez. Ganondorf's gonna cruise right into the final four, Bowser should win his bracket.. I'd think it's Bowser vs. Ganondorf now in the finals.
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Been a while since I've posted in one of these threads.. a LONG while..

I had Sephiroth winning this tournament, but now I'm having doubts. Bowser and Ganondorf have won impressively and I honestly wasn't that impressed with Sephiroth's win over Ramirez. Ganondorf's gonna cruise right into the final four, Bowser should win his bracket.. I'd think it's Bowser vs. Ganondorf now in the finals.

...This is one case where I'll make an exception and just say Sephiroth will win. I guess in a way it's possible he won't, but... he will...

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Am I the only one that thinks this makes Diablo look better?
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

If sephy somehow failed to win the contest that would be the ultimate upset. It has about a 0.000000000000000000000001% of happening though.
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I had Sephiroth winning this tournament, but now I'm having doubts.

Don't. Sephiroth is still far and away the favorite to take the contest. Unless the new Zelda information suddenly shot Ganondorf through the roof, Sephiroth will win.
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Am I the only one that thinks this makes Diablo look better?

I should hope so.... This has nothing to do with Diablo at all. SSB and SSBM have nothing to do with Metroid. If anything, this makes Bison look better since he did almost as well as MH in the upset poll before the contest.

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Sephiroth will win, but Gannon wont get blown out.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

I did call that he would start a massive gain at about 3 EST actually. It's the after-school vote. Master Hand and Master Chief enjoy many similar benefits:

A) Mainstream appeal.
B) "Master" in their name.
C) My supporting them.

lol, I'm not caught up yet, but XD


and yay for Master hand!!!!

*has mh in his bracket*
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...This is one case where I'll make an exception and just say Sephiroth will win. I guess in a way it's possible he won't, but... he will...

Well, I want to see how Sephiroth handles his upcoming matches. He'll make the final four for sure.
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I was going for more of the "Nintendo Fans will vote for anything" factor. Look two villians from popular series who dont have their names thrown around a lot.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

I should hope so.... This has nothing to do with Diablo at all. SSB and SSBM have nothing to do with Metroid. If anything, this makes Bison look better since he did almost as well as MH in the upset poll before the contest.

I agree, but I think this is a half-full/half-empty deal; I assume he meant he thinks M. Bison won't be as impressive as MH was, thus helping Diablo out.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/18/2005 11:40:51 PM | #295
We've been over the PGC thing before, it may have been enough to Mario over the top but it wasn't enough to make up the huge gap between him and Cloud. SMS simply did far more than PGC.

Word. Adjusting with Alucard and Tails gives us a 58-42 Cloud victory or something along those lines. Interference from one site can make up a 1000-vote deficit, as has been proven with HaRRicH's experiment, but 20000 votes? No. It was SMS, an act of God or both.
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Slowflake here. Thanks to Steinershocker for lending me his alt while I'm in warnination.

Was PGC as popular in 2002 as halo.bungie.org was in 2004?
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New zelda information would help ganon... if ganon was involved. I dont think the zelda trailers and information will be on ganons side much at all.

Kuja 46.5% 25762
Master Hand 53.5% 29638
TOTAL VOTES 55400

For what it's worth, I would worry about my Robotnik > MH pick if I didn't have Ridley in the Final Four; I thought MH'd win today and with about 52%, and I think Sin > Kuja too...but he's not stopping. He just keeps going, and I never thought Kuja'd be too far off from Sin.

God, this match next round will be great.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

And Master Hand is still pulling in 60 votes every 5 minutes. This is insanity. I don't want him to get to Gdorf and get killed; I was hoping for an SFF free bracket.
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Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous. I really hope Kuja does the same thing for the last two hours of the poll just to bring this back to a comfortable level...

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!

Heh, I wonder if MH could stall Sonic with the after-school vote. =P
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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This is demented. Somewhere, Master Chief is crying alone in a corner.
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Above 4000.
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

Jesus Christ...

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Does anybody still think there's cheating/major-linking going on? I believe this has been going on longer and more heavily than MC had going for him, SSBM > Halo (hell, maybe SSB > Halo if Starcraft really was at its peak against SSBM and not Halo), and there hasn't been any sites found with front-page linking. There's also almost no way there's a board that'd continuously bring in this many votes when some front-page links couldn't do the same.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

I certainly think cheating is a possibility, but at the same time I doubt it.

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if ganon was involved.

Ganon is a very important part of the entire story. But you didn't hear that from me...

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PS3 & Revolution > > > Xbox 360; Diablo > > > > Ridley
GTA Gavin is always right.

But the thing is, the vote totals are roughly in line with the Sin-Robotegg match. If there was substantial cheating the totals would be much higher. If there is only a small amount of cheating then I doubt that would change the outcome of this match.
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Some stats:

It took 1:35 for Master Hand to go from a 3000 vote lead to a 4000 vote lead. That's 10.5 votes per minute.

It took 1:15 for Master Hand to go from a 2000 vote lead to a 3000 vote lead. That's 13.33 votes per minute.

It took 1:05 for Master Hand to go from a 1000 vote lead to a 2000 vote lead. That's 15.4 votes per minute!

Master Chief and StarCraft have absolutely nothing on Master Hand. Conversely, Kuja is far, far more pathetic than any of StarCraft's opponents or Frog. Thankfully for Kuja, Master Hand is slowing down.
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I recall SSBM being cheated against, and I remember the "mascot" of SSBM (Mario) being cheated against. I just don't see it being likely that somebody took it upon themselves to cheat for this long and continuously for Master Hand now.

Question: Think about every playable SSBM character...who would you take Master Hand over in a one-on-one match (consider SFF)?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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And holy ****ing hell at the match right now. Master Hand is beating Kuja's ass with this day vote.


Go, Glove!

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PS3 & Revolution > > > Xbox 360; Diablo > > > > Ridley
GTA Gavin is always right.

I'm not sure where exactly I would put Master Hand in terms of strength, but I wouldnt hesitate to put him over Ness, especially after today.
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

I wouldn't take MH > Ness head-to-head, but I believe MH won't be far off from him indirectly.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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I would, without a doubt, take Ness over Master Hand. But their indirect strength shouldn't be too far apart.

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PS3 & Revolution > > > Xbox 360; Diablo > > > > Ridley
GTA Gavin is always right.

From SSBM? I'd put Master Hand over ...

... wait ...

Master Hand to the final four!
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"I find this rain quite pleasant. It feels as though raindrops are blessing our victory..." - Kuja

Master Hand could be stronger than Ness... it's possible. I just can't see Ness doing this against... anybody.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

Jak would like to have a word with you.
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Slowflake here. Thanks to Steinershocker for lending me his alt while I'm in warnination.

Should MH > Ness, I still wouldn't pick that in a head-to-head match; I'd risk it on some rSFF.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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As a side-note, Kuja is now finally taking a lil' bit off of the percentage for the first time in a loooooong time.
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Goooooooo trance-vestite!
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

Hey, Nintendo's having another press conference tomorrow.

Maybe this'll make up for the crappiness of yesterday's conference. ^_^
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I've been thinking lately...

Is it possible that Sephiroth might not end up winning the contest?

Because if Ganondorf approaches 85% on Ansem...he might have a chance of winning. Maybe. However small that chance might be.

I mean, how much stronger can Ramirez be than Ansem? Like Ansem, he barely does anything in his game until you near the end. Surely he has more prominence in SoA than Ansem does in KH, but...that's why it's a longshot. >_>
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

No they arent.
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The only way Ganondorf would win is if Twilight Princess was somehow released on the day of the championship along with the announcement that Advent Children was permanently cancelled.
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Current contest score: 15/16
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I think Gannon could pull off 43, no reason why except a feeling he could be stronger when he is the only Zelda character in a contest.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

If there is any god, Ganon will either break 85% next round or lose in the same fashion as CATS.

Then again, I'm starting to doubt there is a god on GameFAQs after today's match >_>
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SpC2k5: Owned by Diablo. Damnit.
Or, the Katamari thing. It's like getting high, withought the death part. - Link the Midgit

And as far as comparing Ramirez to Ansem... There's no comparison. Even if he's just Galcian's errand-boy, he has a decent role in the game and is actually a good boss fight. As far as character goes, I can at least fathom why someone could like Ramirez.
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Or, the Katamari thing. It's like getting high, withought the death part. - Link the Midgit

Anyone find any humor in the fact that on the day when a hand reigns supreme, the current leader on the scoreboard is StopPokingMe?
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

I have determined something: Master Hand is a mean son of a ***** with the day-vote. </old news> Seriously though, it's still going! This is nothing short of massive, and Kuja may not even be able to redeem itself by cutting any votes off by the end of the night.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

It's not really the day vote anymore. It should have stopped by now really...

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!