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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 122
From: NewLib | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:33:46 AM | Message Detail
No, Jill doesnt care about killing Nemesis. Its just that sooner or later she is forced too.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:34:22 AM | Message Detail
*RE3 SPOILERS*


No. Jill's mission is simply to get the hell out of Raccoon City; Nemmy stands in her way. The focal point of the game is not to kill Nemesis, it's to escape. Now, this eventually involves killing Nemmy, but it's more because he's a persistent bastard that keeps blowing up escape routes than any story focus on killing him.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:35:06 AM | Message Detail
Ocelot Vs. Nemesis was my biggest surprise. Not to mention a downer. Liquid Snake is practically only in one game, and performs damn good. Ocelot is prominent in all 3 games and slides by a monster who can only say one word.

If only he was a Snake clone!
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*Taps on your shoulder and points* My tuba!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:36:43 AM | Message Detail
I see. Well, it sounds like Nemesis is still a prominent part of the story and a tough cookie to deal with.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:36:45 AM | Message Detail
Diablo is a huge name that everyone knows. The Devil himself will of course get votes.

Though I have no idea why Ridley would get support. And Nemesis was only in one Resident Evil game, which also happened to sell more poorly in comparison to the first 2 games. I think it only sold about 400,000.
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*Taps on your shoulder and points* My tuba!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:37:48 AM | Message Detail
Resident Evil games have generally sold better than any Mega Man game, but you don't hear anybody saying Wily couldn't take Nemesis down.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:39:17 AM | Message Detail
Because the sum total of sales from the games Wily is in heavily dwarf the number of sells from the lone Resident Evil 3.

Not that sales matter that much, but if you're only in one game, and that one games sells half a million, it's nearly impossible to get enough support to get a lot done.
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*Taps on your shoulder and points* My tuba!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:42:37 AM | Message Detail
There's less of a RE fanbase here than a MM fanbase, to boot. However, Nemesis would still likely make Wily sweat some, somehow.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:42:54 AM | Message Detail
"while Gordon was similarly owned by a nameless pair of 37DDs."

I looked that up and that actually appears to be Tina's size.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:44:55 AM | Message Detail
So Tina's got a bigger bust than Tifa, eh?
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:45:48 AM | Message Detail
Oh... actually I forgot the RE3 port to Gamecube.

It might have done really well, so you can just forgot about RE3's sales.
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*Taps on your shoulder and points* My tuba!
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:47:19 AM | Message Detail
RE3 sold 49k on the GC.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:47:30 AM | Message Detail
Knowing video game characters' cup-size is a level of sadness only rivaled by Crono beating Mario.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:48:21 AM | Message Detail
So we're talking about 4.5K total then.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:48:44 AM | Message Detail
Japanese bra sizes are different from American bra sizes. That always confused me.
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*Taps on your shoulder and points* My tuba!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:48:49 AM | Message Detail
Er...450K...
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:50:00 AM | Message Detail
Don't look at me, I had to look it up to see if slowflake was right.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:50:21 AM | Message Detail
Actually Resident Evil 3 sold 1 million on the PSX...

>_> <_<

*DUCKS* I'm SORRY!
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*Taps on your shoulder and points* My tuba!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:52:06 AM | Message Detail
Hey, it's not my fault I remembered Tina's 2002 profile. It was actually written on there.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 11/11 - Matches: 11/11 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Ridley - Tomorrow: Ganondorf
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:52:33 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and Crono beating Mario is a good thing. That was a happy day for me.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:53:56 AM | Message Detail
At the 10:50 mark, this match has 38299 votes. To compare to other matches at this same time:

Bowser/Pyramid Head - 30820
Ocelot/Nemesis - 31287
Sephiroth/Ramirez - 40961
Liquid/Tenpenny - 30712

It's fallen behind Sephiroth/Ramirez, but it's still on pace to easily become the 2nd highest total.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Aprosenf | Posted: 5/14/2005 10:54:12 AM | Message Detail
It's a little late, but I picked up some data during the downtime last night:

Ridley 47.2% 472
Diablo 52.8% 528
TOTAL VOTES 1000


Ridley 45.42% 2271
Diablo 54.58% 2729
TOTAL VOTES 5000
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:05:57 AM | Message Detail
http://www.alexa.com/site/site_stats/signup?site_url=http%3A%2F%2Fplanet-megaman.com
%2F+halo.bungie.org+www.diabloii.net&range=1y&widget=g&style=c&submitted=true&mode
=graph&range=3m&amzn_id=
(put the three together)

www.DiabloII.net is getting more hits now than halo.bungie.org got during Frog/MC. Interestingly enough for comparison purposes, it's getting about as many hits as halo.bungie.org got during my lil' GFA stunt with Arbiter/Mega Man.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:34:12 AM | Message Detail
Doesn't matter. Diablo is going to win by way more that diabloii.net give him.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Lopen | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:43:42 AM | Message Detail
Or Lavos/Mother Brain

*raises hand*. I really didn't think Ridley/Diablo was going to be close. I had more trouble picking Lavos/Mother Brain (I got it wrong too... :( ) and Sin/Robotnik.

And please quit bringing up Diabloii.net. No way are they bringing in 5000 votes. I'd be surprised if they brought in 4 digit votes.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:48:08 AM | Message Detail
Did Doma make a topic of this post? He really should.

Just did.

With regards to Diabloii.net, I don't think it would be unreasonable to attribute about 1000 votes from them, and about 80% of those for the Lord of Terror. Not chump change, but nothing that would massively affect the contest.
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Sure, Sephiroth's going to win the Spring Contest. But how will he fare in a real duel? Find out at www.rpgdl.com!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:55:03 AM | Message Detail
I'm not saying it's the reason Diablo's winning, I just thought it'd be interesting to point out in case people wanted to accurately speculate how much it is helping him (which, in a match with this much debate, is probably coming soon enough anyways). Besides, my stance is this: DiabloII.net is likely going to help Diablo in every match, so this is his actual strength here to me. I'm not going to take credit away from Mega Man or Zero for having Planet Mega Man link to them in every match. Only when one-time links are used (like Frog/MC or Mario/Cloud, for example) should they not be credited as their true strength.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:57:46 AM | Message Detail
Plus, Ulti claimed MC got about 5,000 votes against Frog in 2k4. I'm curious to see how many more votes he thinks Diablo got from a bigger site over a more hyped match and Diablo has an online fanbase (which Halo didn't at the time).

Sidenote: Diablo just passed the 6,000-lead point.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 11:59:49 AM | Message Detail
Well, I certainly said it last night. I don't know when Diabloii.net posted the link, but in the chat I stated this match was over the minute they did. And it looks like they'll be putting a link throughout Diablo's run in the contest.

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:03:25 PM | Message Detail
It was put up before 7:15 AM Central Time, I know that much; the Frog/MC link wasn't even up that early (I think it was closer to 11:00 AM Central Time, maybe noon).
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:03:47 PM | Message Detail
How many people come here to look for FAQs about a fighting game?

How many come here to look for FAQs about an RPG game?

Diablo is going to beat Bison.


That's the worst logic I have ever heard. Bison is a far more mainstream and well-known character over the likes of Ridley. Given that Bison smashed Albedo in the previous round, it would be crazy to think Diablo is guaranteed to beat Bison.

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:05:52 PM | Message Detail
And I'm very pleased that I changed my bracket from Ridley in the final four to Ridley losing to Bison in the oncoming round. It's still only a one point loss for me.

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:09:03 PM | Message Detail
And Ulti, it's pretty dumb to shoot down my arguments now. Hindsight is cheap.

You did see me agree with your post a couple posts later, right? Your argument against Diablo was fine; it just happens to be an argument that can be aimed at Ridley as well.




As for all the people whing about diabloii.net, shut up. Diablo broke 56% before they posted that link, and as of right now, he's.... a little under 57%. Blaming a website for a beating that was quite clearly going to happen anyway makes you a sore loser on top of being immature as hell.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:10:34 PM | Message Detail
Who's whining about Diabloii.net? I think it is more than safe to say that once the link went up, Ridley's chances of a comeback where done, if they weren't already. I have no problem with the link being posted because I knew it would be there before the match even started.

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:10:40 PM | Message Detail
Assuming Ridley finishes with 43.08% on Diablo, Diablo's going to be consistant in our contest, Mega Man was properly adjusted, and Diablo = Kefka (I know it's alot, but for our purposes, work with it), Ridley would get 18.27% on Link (a tad under Max Payne) and would get 23.13% on Samus before SFF.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:12:09 PM | Message Detail
Ridley would get 18.27% on Link (a tad under Max Payne) and would get 23.13% on Samus before SFF.

I ain't buying it, personally. I agree with Phediuk in that both of these characters are weak as hell.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:12:47 PM | Message Detail
I think it is more than safe to say that once the link went up, Ridley's chances of a comeback where done, if they weren't already.

That's all I'm sayin' too; Ridley likely wasn't goin' to come back without it. However, it's still worth talking about just how much it does help Diablo.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:13:07 PM | Message Detail
^So you think Bison will take the division or Kefka?
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Volgin is one sexy beast....
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:13:43 PM | Message Detail
Ending the 1440 mile drive from New York to Louisiana, I come back to see that Diablo hasn't disappointed me too much (I was hoping for 60% personally), although I was kind of hoping he would win this match without any outside help whatsoever (just so people would recognize his strength).

It looks like of the two sites that can provide a meaningful difference in Diablo's totals, only one is currently linking here (although the other couldn't link here even if they wanted to considering their site seems to be having some problems). I'd actually expect the site that's not linking to here to have a greater impact though, even if it is the scum of the Blizzard community.

The Diabloii.net link hasn't been up too long though (the news was posted 9:52 PST according to the site).
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"Not even death can save you from me!" - Diablo
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:13:45 PM | Message Detail
My man Bison is going own this division. =p

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:16:10 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and to update you guys on Advent Children. It is coming out in both America and Japan on September 14, 2005. Nomura says there will be no more delays. Europe is scheduled to get it by the end of 2005.

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: andaca | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:16:54 PM | Message Detail
Diablo broke 56% before they posted that link, and as of right now, he's.... a little under 57%.

Right conclusion, bad argument. The fact that the percentage hasnt changed, along with the fact that this match is getting voted in like crazy, would suggest that if nothing else it has stopped a percentage comeback for Ridley. As we've all said, Diablo would be winning without it, but on a site that big its all but guaranteed to pull at least a thousand or so votes for Diablo during the course of the day.

Which means, i dunno, Diablo should be at 55% instead. Big Whoop.
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:17:09 PM | Message Detail
AC is going to be a DVD release and not something that I need a PSP for, correct?
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"Not even death can save you from me!" - Diablo
From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:17:18 PM | Message Detail
the match that was expected to be the biggest, closest, most important first round match has only the second largest vote total at this time so far in the contest and people are saying diabloii.net is influencing the vote? you've got to be kidding me. i would think that a character like diablo would pull people from all over the pc gaming world onto gamefaqs today just for this poll. maybe that'll change tonight, but consider the vote totals so far to be low.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:18:04 PM | Message Detail
Correct. You can buy it on DVD or on the PSP (UMD format).

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Gordon Freeman: MIT graduate, Ph.D in theoretical physics, forever loser of GameFAQs.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:23:54 PM | Message Detail
I dunno...while I had suspected Ridley to be on Tails's level (which is likely too high, granted), I think being below Max Payne is too low for now. I do think the 23.13% on Samus pre-SFF sounds good though...so, right now, I'll put Ridley at a lil' short of Duke Nukem and say he gets 19% on Link; that'd make him get 24.05% on Samus pre-SFF.

From there, Ridley would get 44.79% on Kefka and Diablo would get 52.02% on Kefka. Doesn't sound that bad, really...and then there's Bison to worry about, heh.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:31:40 PM | Message Detail
I forgot to mention: methinks the link won't be helpin' Diablo alot until later tonight, so it makes sense that Diablo's only gained almost a percent right now since it stabilized early this morning.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:33:49 PM | Message Detail
That is true. The link will probably have it's biggest effect with around 4-5 hours to go in the poll. I wouldn't be surprised to see Diablo get it up to 57.5% there.
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I'm like a mentally insane girl who keeps running back to her abusive boyfriend. ~ Mars
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:35:39 PM | Message Detail
You know, the fact that the link doesn't just say "Vote for Diablo!" disappoints me. I was hoping to see the possible effects of not telling them that it's Diablo the character instead of Diablo the game.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/14/2005 12:40:11 PM | Message Detail
Diablo was taking Ridley in the early bracket-voting hours without the link, so with the link, I think 58% is abetter-yet-conservative pick for Diablo...especially conservative if he's anything like Starcraft was.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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