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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 122
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:06:27 AM | Message Detail
The PSYCHO CRUSHER edition.

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm



*Match Pictures*

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:06:44 AM | Message Detail
SCISSORS KICK'D
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: BillyJamal_OKAY | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:06:47 AM | Message Detail
http://bison.ytmnd.com/

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WOO WOO HELLO WOO WOO BYAKKO WOO WOO BANNED WOO SHORYUKEN WOO
WOO WOO NEW ACCT HOO http://idontbelieveit.ytmnd.com/ WOO UNWARNED WOO WOO AEGIS REFLECTOR
From: GuyRyusett | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:07:01 AM | Message Detail
AIR COMBO!
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Hi.
From: creativename | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:07:04 AM | Message Detail
Best edition name evar.
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www.SC2K5.com
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:09:49 AM | Message Detail
HYAAAA!
PSYCHO CRUSHAAA!
AIR COMBO!!


~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:10:12 AM | Message Detail
TIGER UPPERCUT

Come on, we all know Sagat's better.
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Jon Thomson - 10/10, today: M. Bison, tomorrow: Ridley
Ridley's Road to Victory - Round 1 vs. (7) Diablo
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:11:40 AM | Message Detail
http://down.videogamerx.net/ps2/namcoxcapcom/namcoxcapcom_pv.wmv

Bison's in Namco X Capcom, and Albedo's no where to be seen, despite having Xenosaga characters in it.
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:12:54 AM | Message Detail
Cool, if we're talking Street Figher, I'm in. Was anyone else worried about Bison winning?
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Cloud: As long as you exist, I can't wake from this nightmare. You are my darkness. Sephiroth: If that's so, I shall draw you into the darkness...
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:13:00 AM | Message Detail
HADOUKEN!
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:13:05 AM | Message Detail
I'd use M. Bison, Ken, Chun-Li, Sagat, Akuma, and Ryu, in that order if they were all in the same game. Ryu's awesome, but outside of Shin Shoryuken in 3S, he's horribly boring.

TIGER!
TIGER!
TIGER!
TIGER!
TIGER!

TIGER UPPERCUT!!


~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:14:10 AM | Message Detail
With the exception of Sagat they're in pretty much every game.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:14:10 AM | Message Detail
HADOUKEN!
HADOUKEN!
HADOUKEN!

TATTS MATTS TEN KU-KEN!*

SHOOOOOOORYUKEN!


*dunno what he actually says

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:14:36 AM | Message Detail
You should see the players who use him in Super Turbo and Alpha 3 on Kaillera.. It's sickening.(Ryu I mean)
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Cloud: As long as you exist, I can't wake from this nightmare. You are my darkness. Sephiroth: If that's so, I shall draw you into the darkness...
From: BillyJamal_OKAY | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:15:01 AM | Message Detail
namco X capcom... this is an RPG? give me a prief rundown of it. Lots of my favorite characters seem to be standing around in poorly animated sprites.

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WOO WOO HELLO WOO WOO BYAKKO WOO WOO BANNED WOO SHORYUKEN WOO
WOO WOO NEW ACCT HOO http://idontbelieveit.ytmnd.com/ WOO UNWARNED WOO WOO AEGIS REFLECTOR
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:15:04 AM | Message Detail
Look at Heroic Mario's alt for most of what he says.

TATSUMAKI SENPUU KYAKU!
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:15:42 AM | Message Detail
Namco X Capcom is startagey RPG with real time combat.
From: BillyJamal_OKAY | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:15:46 AM | Message Detail
ex2 u play kaillera? i play

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WOO WOO HELLO WOO WOO BYAKKO WOO WOO BANNED WOO SHORYUKEN WOO
WOO WOO NEW ACCT HOO http://idontbelieveit.ytmnd.com/ WOO UNWARNED WOO WOO AEGIS REFLECTOR
From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:18:25 AM | Message Detail
YOGA FIRE
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Jon Thomson - 9/9, today: Wesker, tomorrow: M. Bison
Ridley's Road to Victory - Round 1 vs. (7) Diablo
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:20:25 AM | Message Detail
Damn straight. Usually Kawaks though. And I maily play Street Fighter Alpha 3, Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Vs. Capcom:Clash of Super Heroes, and the Metal Slugs.(Sometimes King of Fighters.)
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Cloud: As long as you exist, I can't wake from this nightmare. You are my darkness. Sephiroth: If that's so, I shall draw you into the darkness...
From: BillyJamal_OKAY | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:21:26 AM | Message Detail
IC. I play MVC, XMVSF, super turbo, and sometimes SFA3 on mame .64.

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WOO WOO HELLO WOO WOO BYAKKO WOO WOO BANNED WOO SHORYUKEN WOO
WOO WOO NEW ACCT HOO http://idontbelieveit.ytmnd.com/ WOO UNWARNED WOO WOO AEGIS REFLECTOR
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:22:41 AM | Message Detail
I got MAME .64 and .67 as well. Only use them with 4 player Marvel Vs. Capcom:Clash of Super Heroes and Marvel Vs. Street Fighter.
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Cloud: As long as you exist, I can't wake from this nightmare. You are my darkness. Sephiroth: If that's so, I shall draw you into the darkness...
From: BillyJamal_OKAY | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:23:50 AM | Message Detail
wanna play a quick game of MVC?

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WOO WOO HELLO WOO WOO BYAKKO WOO WOO BANNED WOO SHORYUKEN WOO
WOO WOO NEW ACCT HOO http://idontbelieveit.ytmnd.com/ WOO UNWARNED WOO WOO AEGIS REFLECTOR
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:31:55 AM | Message Detail
That'd be great, but not right now. Sometime later on today?
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Cloud: As long as you exist, I can't wake from this nightmare. You are my darkness. Sephiroth: If that's so, I shall draw you into the darkness...
From: BillyJamal_OKAY | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:33:44 AM | Message Detail
ok

where do u ping well? my best is Gamewarrior's Best of the Best, followed by Anti3d

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WOO WOO HELLO WOO WOO BYAKKO WOO WOO BANNED WOO SHORYUKEN WOO
WOO WOO NEW ACCT HOO http://idontbelieveit.ytmnd.com/ WOO UNWARNED WOO WOO AEGIS REFLECTOR
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:17:26 AM | Message Detail
Mwa ha ha...NIGHT-MARE
From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/13/2005 3:28:56 AM | Message Detail
congrats go to ulti on his super pick of m.bison over diablo. it's looking like the ruin division is going to have two good matches next round.

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|| BtT 3:34.65 || HRC 37,592.3 ||
Spring2K5: 10/10 Next Pick: M.Bison
From: Mumei | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:26:00 AM | Message Detail
Wonderful. UltimateKael is back. >_>
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Vexilla regis prodeunt Inferni. ~ Dante Alighieri
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:16:40 PM | Message Detail
I had doubts growin' for Bison as the match grew closer, but I still thought he'd win. Never thought he'd win like this though...just, wow. Very nice.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:31:18 PM | Message Detail
KO!

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:31:20 PM | Message Detail
But you figure if these people just don't care about Luca, they vote for Wesker. But if they don't care about Wesker either, they don't vote at all.

But you figure if these people just don't care about Sam, they vote for Magus. But if they don't care about Magus either, they don't vote at all.

Explains Magus/Sam's low vote totals pretty well; nobody cares about Magus.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:31:22 PM | Message Detail
Tiger Woods misses a cut!
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:32:04 PM | Message Detail
Explains Magus/Sam's low vote totals pretty well; nobody cares about Magus.

Well, they SHOULDN'T care about Magus.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:32:34 PM | Message Detail
Explains Magus/Sam's low vote totals pretty well; nobody cares about Magus.

I hope that was sarcasm.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:32:35 PM | Message Detail
Well, they do. So vote total logic doesn't work.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:33:24 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, my entire argument has been riddled with sarcasm.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:34:57 PM | Message Detail
Even though the two strongest characters in this contest thus far have the highest vote totals (Bowser included, despite facing one of the worst characters we've EVER seen).

I don't think you can say vote totals mean nothing at all.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: chibi super shadow | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:37:39 PM | Message Detail
I was pretty sure that Bison would take the cake in today's match. However, tomorrow's match will be a make-or-breaker. I voted for Ridley. >_>
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May 19, 2005 - History will be made...
My failure, this was. Failed the Jedi, I did... ~ Yoda, Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:37:46 PM | Message Detail
Well I kind of figured as much, but suggesting that total votes don't have something to do with how strong the characters are is pretty X-Files.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:38:10 PM | Message Detail
I don't mind not even goin' for 500 that time; I've got AC now instead, bay-bee.

As for the correlation of strength to vote totals, obviously there's a correlation, but there's no real way to find a great correlation. With two characters that people care about facing each other, it will generally get more votes than a match where one character or no characters are cared about. There's exceptions, of course, but generally that will be the case. Now, about Nemesis and Wesker...in that situation, methinks there's enough evidence to go ahead and call it Nemesis >or= Wesker, though we'll find out for sure in due time.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:38:25 PM | Message Detail
I'm not saying that vote totals mean nothing. Well, I kinda was, but I always argue the extreme position. Anyway, not that they mean nothing, just that they're a bad reason to bring up for Nemmy > Wesker, because they depend on so many different variables and there's always counterexamples to everything.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:39:04 PM | Message Detail
I've got AC now instead, bay-bee

Advent Children?! HOW?!
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:39:55 PM | Message Detail
By the English Mafia. Don't ask.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:40:21 PM | Message Detail
But it surely stands to reason that two matches featuring characters of around the same level of strength (as would be the case if Nemesis is indeed weaker than Wesker) should draw at least SOMEWHAT comparable vote totals, right?
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:41:22 PM | Message Detail
I can't prove who is stronger between Nemesis or Wesker, so I'm not even going to try. All I know for a fact is that Luca Blight is a huge reason why his poll had such a low turnout.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Tai | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:41:40 PM | Message Detail
Heh. Hopefully Bison's win will crush more perfects and get me in the top 50.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:41:49 PM | Message Detail
Well, if Nemmy=Wesker, Ocelot would kill Luca, and there's your vote total difference right there. Even less people care about Luca than the other three.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:44:45 PM | Message Detail
Wow. Bison's blowout is good news for my first round, but now I'm worried about my second round Ridley over Bison. Of course, I'll only be screwed further if Diablo wins tomorrow.
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"From now on, anyone that makes fun of me, I'll kill them, just like that!"
"Eddie, have you gone nuts?"
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:50:40 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and because I can't remember it being done, here's what happens if Nemmy = Wesker and Ocelot = Wily.

Ocelot/Wily: 18.12 (Conker)
Nemmy/Wesker: 16.44 (Simon Belmont)
Ultros: 13.03 (Pitfall Harry)

That's awfully low for Ultros.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/13/2005 2:52:08 PM | Message Detail
That's a lil' low for Ocelot and Wily too, methinks.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
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