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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 121
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:27:54 AM | Message Detail
Dreamcast had all the favorites.

Namely:
Marvel Vs. Capcom1/2, Street Fighter Alpha 3, King of Fighters 98/99/00, Garou(Can't forget about Fatal Fury ^_^), Rival Schools 2/Project Justice, Plasma Sword(It was good..), POWER STONE, POWER STONE 2, Street Fighter 3/W/3rd Strike, Tech Romancer, all the goodies. ^_~
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From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:28:10 AM | Message Detail
If there's only hardcore fighting game fanbase how did Morrigan do so well?
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:30:59 AM | Message Detail
I'm very hardcore when it comes to Fighters. Been playing them since way back on the Genesis(Championship Edition rocks). And I ****ing love Akuma. His juggles and techniques are just too useful.(Ashura Senkuu anyone?)


Oh, and add Capcom Vs. SNK and Capcom Vs. SNK 2:Millionaire fighting to the list. =P
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From: NeoElfboy | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:31:36 AM | Message Detail
Why should they have a special loyalty to Akuma? If anything, they'd attach Bison as a nostalgic favourite in the game that likely got them into the genre. And this is ignoring all the gamers who haven't played any Street Fighters save the originals. If you're familiar with Akuma, you're familiar with Bison. The reverse does not hold.

Again, I fail to see any part of the Akuma > Bison logic that wouldn't apply to Zero > Mega Man.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:31:40 AM | Message Detail
I don't think characters from Tekken, Soul Calibur, and other newer games can compete with SF2 characters, even if we take out Ryu from the equation. Of course, Akuma is fairly old school himself, but IMO Bison would have the upper hand, he is the more recognizable character, many stopped playing SF2 after Turbo and before Alpha 2(I think Akuma debuted here?). Oh and the absolute height of SF2 was 1991-1993(SNES version came out in 1992 I think), when the game kept the SNES alive in the states. Genesis would have raped SNES here if it wasn't for that 2 year SF2 exclusive deal.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:33:22 AM | Message Detail
God, I love talking about fighting games. I'm no expert on them by any means (and haven't played most of them), but I still love them.

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From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:35:41 AM | Message Detail
Why should they have a special loyalty to Akuma?

Because he is TEH EVIL and air fireballs, play SNK vs Capcom Chaos online and then tell me casuals don't care for Akuma.
From: Ex2 DstylezAdvanced | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:39:19 AM | Message Detail
Lol. I ain't touching Chaos. Or at least not anymore... <_<
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From: Lopen | Posted: 5/13/2005 1:42:45 AM | Message Detail
There's always the Hero > Villain > support rule of thumb we have too... heh heh.

This was kind of a joke. But, while I don't think this rule really exists in fighters, I do the villain does get an advantage. Think about it, Chun Li's not very significant to the game unless you use her. The same with any character. However, Bison always is.

This of course only applies to 1 player (not very important in fighters), but it can only help.

And, I agree with NeoElf entirely. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I'd be very surprised if Akuma didn't lose a significant amount of support simply because he wasn't in the first three SF2s. The only way I think Akuma's casual popularity could outweigh this advantage is in a SFF affair.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 4:14:44 AM | Message Detail
And while Bison proves more than strong enough to be able to win his four pack, his percentage has begun to fall and likely isn't strong enough to beat Kefka. Good day for me, if I do say so myself. *pelvic thrust*

Of course, if Robotnik beats Sin and Wily beats Ocelot, all is moot. But I can deal with those, because my bracket will have gone down to decent picks rather than something completely stupid. We'll see what happens.

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From: cyko | Posted: 5/13/2005 4:23:18 AM | Message Detail
wow, i can't believe how many people piled on to the Bison bandwagon within the first hour of the match, lol. that was ridiculous. Bison has already dropped to 71.5% and at this rate could wind up below 70%. for all we know, Albedo could be the new weakest RPG character, below Luca Bight. we also have no idea how strong Diablo and Ridley are compared to Bison. anyone out of Kefka, Ridley, Diablo, and Bison could win this division, but we've pretty much agreed that from day one. there's no reason to call the division over in Bison's favor already.

at least wait a couple of hours before filling up the next bandwagon. yeesh. =P

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From: cyko | Posted: 5/13/2005 4:24:05 AM | Message Detail
btw - in the 2 minutes it took me to type that post, Bison dropped from 71.57% to 71.38%.

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From: cyko | Posted: 5/13/2005 4:26:00 AM | Message Detail
btw - i just realized that neither Xenosaga was ever even released in Europe. no wonder why Bison dominated early so much. i expect Albedo to definitely push him below 70% with the day vote.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 4:26:25 AM | Message Detail
From: cyko | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:23:18 AM | Message Detail
wow, i can't believe how many people piled on to the Bison bandwagon within the first hour of the match


I was the bandwagon. I've been singing his praises for weeks. Ain't my fault that it took people so long to see the ligh--PSYCHO CRUSHER'D

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 5/13/2005 4:46:42 AM | Message Detail
The biggest disparity between hero and villain that we've seen is Ganondorf and Link, where Link would get 67.62 on Ganon. If that's the biggest there can be, then Bison's stronger than Kos-Mos...even stronger than Luigi.
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:11:48 AM | Message Detail
I had Bison makign the Final Four initially. I however, changed to have Kefka beating him.

Although it looks like my indecisiveness was justified. Kefka Vs. M. Bison should be a pretty damn good match.
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From: MasterMoltar | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:16:05 AM | Message Detail
Woo...look at Bison drop...
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:33:01 AM | Message Detail
70%?!? And he was higher before that?

This... is just demonic. Tomorrow's winner WILL have something to tremble in his scales.

Food for thought: Barring SFF, Albedo's score on KOS-MOS would be Bison's score on Samus. Think about it for a minute. If Bison beats Kefka, Ken NEEDS to be ditched in his favor.

And then, the fact that Albedo's getting demolished, combined with the fact that Seymour got beat by Sin for a contest spot, confirms the trend of creepy pedophiles being TOTALLY underappreciated.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 09/09 - Matches: 09/09 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Wesker - Tomorrow: Bison
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:35:59 AM | Message Detail
And by the way, the Ridley/Diablo pic is up... Ridley's pretty bad, but Diablo's frikkin' godawful. Advantage Ridley.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 10/10 - Matches: 10/10 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Bison - Tomorrow: Ridley
From: Starion | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:37:04 AM | Message Detail
You're in the minority with that one Slow. Most people like the Diablo pic.
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From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:37:30 AM | Message Detail
IMO, Diablo has the pic advantage.

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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:39:05 AM | Message Detail
I think they're both bad in different ways.

Ridley's just plain bad in his pic.

Diablo is bad in the sense that his pic seems a little "out of character" for him as just a unrelenting demon of evil.

But barring that, it's not THAT bad.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 5:47:42 AM | Message Detail
Yes, it's bad. At least Ridley looks like Ridley.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 10/10 - Matches: 10/10 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Bison - Tomorrow: Ridley
From: dethwing | Posted: 5/13/2005 6:04:19 AM | Message Detail
Bad? You're crazy. They both look awesome.
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/13/2005 6:15:49 AM | Message Detail
The people have spoken...

The fans have demanded it...

The kiddies have tried to stop it...protesting to Ceej with a bogus petition...

No it is not a re-release of TMNT: Tournament Fighters...it is...

Steve Illumina Speaks

You know it, noobs! It is the irreverent column that mocks the contest that geeky gamers live breathe and talk in the school cafeterias about for weeks. It can be fav games...it can be fav characters...or villains...or heroes...or joke bosses...or box art. It dont much matter...nerds will flock to it like fat kids to Whoppers. Now, lets get a move on, shall we!

Continuing with the Figaro 'Ruin' Division...

(2)Ridley vs (7)Diablo
AKA: A Nintendope vs Da PC's Pride
Steve's Pick: Devil
Newbie Pick: If a Nintendite, Ridley, Otherwise Diablo
Kiddie Pick: Diablo cause he looks all scary n stuff, yah
Non Gamer Pick: Diablo for sure, unless they be a Bible thumper...

Comments: After a 2 day break where I was too busy and too angry after seeing Konami's Favorite Son lose to a glorified nobody, I am back with the one match that is left in Round 1 that can give me some measure of revenge...that being the upset thats about to happen when Diablo takes out the Board 8 Backed Ridley. (Though I really like what I am seeing out of M Bison, the only fighting game rep thats here...Albedo who?)

All the so called stats geeks, wannabe elites, bogus guru's, and the like are proclaiming that Ridley de la Metroid is the winner tomorrow. This makes me laugh. For do they not realize the power of Blizzard...the power of the PC contingent...the power of the namesake of a 2 game series that sold millions of copies, pulled in oodles of profits, and is still widely played today.... My wise insight tells me, the rose colored 3D Nintendo glasses these kiddies are peering through that they got out of an old box of Nintendo Cereal System back in 1987 are way out of focus if they really think that Ridley is advancing. Hahahaha I laugh again...

Yah, I lost my perfect when Luca was betrayed by too many bandwagoning voters. But the playing field will even up tomorrow when many of the remaining perfects fall to Diablo's wrath...and then things will be alright...cause I vow not to lose another match this spring. I refuse to do it. Enough is enough. I am Steve Illumina dammit! Sage of Board 8! Pub Trivian! The Anti-Fanboy himself! Grrr!

There...I have spoken...

Quotes: Ridley: "Um...Mr. Diablo...dont beat me up no more..." Diablo: "The blood of the Nintendites flows this night..."
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From: Starion | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:02:18 AM | Message Detail
I wonder if anyone knows the answer to this: Do the x-stats ever factor in the actual number of votes (as opposed to just percentage) in the calculation and ranking?
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:02:54 AM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:03:59 AM | Message Detail
No. How would you want it to?

Besides, the number of votes is subject to a lot of factors, such as the day of the week or how far we're in the tournament.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 10/10 - Matches: 10/10 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Bison - Tomorrow: Ridley
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:06:17 AM | Message Detail
Slowflake, Bison looked as if he were about to break 75% at one point. He's flat-out killing Albedo, no way around it.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:08:58 AM | Message Detail
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 10:03:59 AM | Message Detail
No. How would you want it to?


Vote totals are a large indication of strength, though incorporating them into the stats would be impossible.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:09:17 AM | Message Detail
Like I first said, this match may go the way of SMRPG/SF2 with how the percentages go through-out the day...but, it'll be interesting to see just how much more they'll drop, should they continue to drop. Before I go back and sleep, here's afew quick stats: should Albedo stay at 29.5% on M. Bison and assuming adjusted Mega Man is right...


-If Ryu = M. Bison, Albedo lands above Crash and below unadjusted Protoman (17.61% on Link).
-If Ken 2k2 = M. Bison, Albedo lands above Sam Fisher and below Conker (15.67% on Link).
-If Kefka = M. Bison, Albedo lands above Luca and below Terry Bogard (12.51% on Link).
-If Ken 2k3 = M. Bison, Albedo lands above Ryo and below CATS (11.92% on Link).


...good stuff. If. M. Bison is going to take this division and keep this same percentage through-out the day, he needs Albedo to be stronger than Terry Bogard (which isn't unreasonable at all). Bogard would be beaten by KOS-MOS with 28.45% of the votes, for what it's worth.

Back to sleep with me.
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From: Starion | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:18:25 AM | Message Detail
No. How would you want it to?

Well, I suppose you could factor that in to some sort of multiplier and apply it to the current stats. Granted, you have a point about matches garnering more votes during the later rounds; Perhaps the data could be limited only to the earlier round vote totals. Or use the average vote totals from the contest.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:22:55 AM | Message Detail
SMRPG/SF2 went the way it did because SMRPG was never released in Europe. Unless the same happened with Xenosaga...
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 10/10 - Matches: 10/10 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Bison - Tomorrow: Ridley
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 5/13/2005 7:31:06 AM | Message Detail
WTF
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From: the7joker7 | Posted: 5/13/2005 8:38:52 AM | Message Detail
Ugh, my Diablo>Bison pick is looking shaky. Oh well. I can at least rest easy knowing that everybody know's who Diablo is, and that we still have no idea how strong he is.

C'mon...take down that ridley.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/13/2005 8:46:44 AM | Message Detail
WTF @ the match pic
Ridley looks like the Toronto Raptors logo...
Diablo looks like a buffalo with those horns.
From: spikevegeta | Posted: 5/13/2005 8:47:26 AM | Message Detail
Hey Ultimaterilizer, Just wondering with your comments on Bison and the rest of the Ruin division, I think our brackets might be exactly the same, do you mind posting the rest of your picks to see if were on the same track? If you don't want to you don't have to, but you get a cookie you do.
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 5/13/2005 8:47:51 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr05/b12.jpg

Yeah, I'm liking Diablo's picture but Ridley...not so much.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/13/2005 8:49:03 AM | Message Detail
Actually Ridley looks more like a Gargoyle...
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:08:53 AM | Message Detail
Figures that two out of my three favorite villains put up complete embarrassments. First Kefka, losing around 5%+ during the day, and now Albedo. At least Bowser dominated the entire way. My perfect is definitely going down next round with Bison/Diablo. This does give me a bit more confidence in Sin/Robutt, because Robutt is another villain like Bison that everybody knows but few seem to care about.

As for the Ridley/Diablo pic, Diablo looks like he's straight out of a comic book. Ridley looks like a generic artist's interpretation of a dinosaur out of National Geographic.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:09:36 AM | Message Detail
Bison is doing one hell of a job right now. Him being past Ridley/Diablo and even beating Kefka is certainly not make me worried right now. Hot damn he's kicking ass.

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From: Tai | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:21:41 AM | Message Detail
This makes me laugh. For do they not realize the power of Blizzard...the power of the PC contingent...the power of the namesake of a 2 game series that sold millions of copies, pulled in oodles of profits, and is still widely played today.... My wise insight tells me, the rose colored 3D Nintendo glasses these kiddies are peering through that they got out of an old box of Nintendo Cereal System back in 1987 are way out of focus if they really think that Ridley is advancing. Hahahaha I laugh again...

Stop. ****. Rid. ing. Star. craft. Di. a. blow. will. not. win.

In other news, Kefka will still beat Bison. Anyone who picked otherwise is delusional. It's good to know he beat a...joke and all, but Kefka is more than strong enough to put Bison down.


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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:24:08 AM | Message Detail
In other news, Kefka will still beat Bison. Anyone who picked otherwise is delusional. It's good to know he beat a...joke and all, but Kefka is more than strong enough to put Bison down.

The only person who is delusional would be you for thinking Bison stands no chance. It's absolutely crazy to believe Kefka has this division wrapped up.

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From: Mumei | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:24:40 AM | Message Detail
... I actually thought that the Diablo picture looked better. >_>
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From: Mumei | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:25:47 AM | Message Detail
Stop. ****. Rid. ing. Star. craft. Di. a. blow. will. not. win.

*rides Starcraft*

^_^
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:27:40 AM | Message Detail
If Albedo = Luca, Bison = Kefka. Something to think about. The only way Bison loses this is if Albedo turns out to be the biggest chump in the division. And in a division with LUCA ****ING BLIGHT, that's no easy feat.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:30:39 AM | Message Detail
I would be taking Albedo over the likes of Luca Blight myself. There's no way I could see Luca, of all people, beating out Albedo, even with today's match results.

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From: Tai | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:31:25 AM | Message Detail
It's absolutely crazy to believe Kefka has this division wrapped up.

You're absolutely right. The winner will be the dinosaur.

Ridley will dump a pound full ofsand on Kefka's shoes. :-)


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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/13/2005 9:32:32 AM | Message Detail
That might be the case, except for the fact that Ridley/Diablo is going to receive a beating by Bison in the second round.

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