Before today, I would have taken Kefka. Right now, I'd probably take Jill, but it would be a damn close match with her and Kefka.
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I'm like a mentally insane girl who keeps running back to her abusive boyfriend. ~ Mars
ZSB [aX]

Whenever a favorite character of mine appears in a match he can win, he'll be in my bracket.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!

I wonder how CJayC will screw up tommorow's picture. I dont know if a picture of Wesker that doesnt make him look compeletely awesome exists.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

I also thought it wasn't possible to make Sora look cooler than Ryu Hayabusa...
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

I would take Kefka over Jill. I don't see how her presence in the division suddenly locks it up when she is so incredibly close to Kefka as is. What, are people thinking Kefka is weaker because of this performance or something? Honestly, Tales of Symphonia's popularity extends far beyond simply board 8. I don't see how this wasn't expected.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

I take Jill since I think there probably is an across the board RE increase from RE4.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

I take Jill since I think there probably is an across the board RE increase from RE4.

That's my reasoning for it.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

This match has nothing to do with it. I always would have taken Jill over Kefka. I'm not changing any of my views about Kefka at all.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Eh, I doubt it myself. Either way, even with such a thing Jill isn't a guarantee.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

I tend to disbelieve the overall increase for the RE series because of RE4. What makes 4 so successful is that it fixes the multitude of problems present in it's predecessors, to the point where it is almost painful to play the 5 games (0, 1, 2, 3, CV) that came before it. Case in point, I have a friend that has refused the play the RE series because if it's terrible controls; I persuaded him to borrow RE4 and he fell in love with it. He asked the borrow the REmake and gave up trying to play it after 10 minutes, because of the terrible controls. This is anecdotal, obviously, but I would assume that it's pretty common.

The only summer contest characters worth mentioning that would get a boost worth mentioning from RE4 are Leon and maybe Wesker, because he's so damned good in Mercenaries.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!

I don't care how close they are in the rankings, because that's when I usually throw the rankings out and use my own judgement.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I don't care how close they are in the rankings, because that's when I usually throw the rankings out and use my own judgement.

That's exactly what I'm doing here. Even if Jill were ranked ahead of Kefka, I would not take her over him.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

Even with Jill ranked under Kefka I'm not sure I'd take him over her. Ive seen what he can and can't do, and I don't think he can beat Jill. If not for my change of heart in the last few days I'd blindly accept that Kefka is where the adjusted stats put him, but I don't and I won't unless he does to Wesker whats he's supposed to.

And for those who doubt, while 4 may not get people into the series as a whole it does bring back old fans of the series to the site. People who have played it for a long time now have a reason to just happen to be here while otherwise they wouldn't.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Yeah; like somebody said a week or two ago, when the new LoZ game hits, expect an increase of LoZ fans in general and even Nintendo fans in general, thus likely giving most/all Nintendo characters a boost. RE4 certainly isn't the upcoming LoZ game by any means, but I think the same effect (with a smaller ratio/proportion) will happen to the RE series.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

That's exactly what I'm doing here. Even if Jill were ranked ahead of Kefka, I would not take her over him.

I'll stick to my own guns here. I think I have a better contest record than you anyways. :P

And for those who doubt, while 4 may not get people into the series as a whole it does bring back old fans of the series to the site. People who have played it for a long time now have a reason to just happen to be here while otherwise they wouldn't.

THANK YOU! I think people overlook the factor of exactly WHO is coming to the site at any given time. It doesn't work for EVERY match (seen as GTA fans don't care that much for the GTA characters), but it can indeed play a factor in certain matches...

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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I'll stick to my own guns here. I think I have a better contest record than you anyways. :P

Depending on when you started and/or how many winners you've got correct. Most of the matches I get wrong involve latter ones in which I go for a rather crazy upset pick. Other than that, I'm actually more accurate than people think. I only get percentages wrong.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

As a matter of fact, I'd consider that factor more than a "KHF" saying that a brief cameo by Cloud and even less of an appearance by Sephiroth would introduce a large amount of people to FF thus increasing their popularity. I would say that Kingdom Hearts brought more FF fans to the site. Of course that is and always will be debatable.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I could understand the "bring old fans back" argument helping Jill in the summer if RE4 launched in, say, June, but if old fans didn't stick around before, why would they stick around 6 months after the game released?
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!

Because some people don't get the game 'til it's 6 months old. Some don't get it in the first year, sure, but you get way more at 6 months than 1 year. You'd also get more at 3 months than 6. Yes, she'd be better off if the game was release today instead of months ago, but something is better than nothing (and we're not talking abotu huge gains, anyway).
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

And yeah, I always thought it ridiculous that KH was supposed to introduce so many new people to the FF characters. Seemed backwards, plus all things considered I think it really did a whole hell of a lot less than people think.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Even if it has been 6 months, RE4 is still rather popular, since it's still on the top ten on the Faq list.
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TOOMMMAAATOOOO SAAAAUUUUCCCCEEEE!
(he seems pumped....perhaps?)

Should memory serve me right, didn't it dominate a poll about a month ago about what people's favorite game so far this year was?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

You absolutely suck Kefka... I mean, this is embarrassing. As one of my three favorite villains ever, this is disheartening beyond words. And it only gets followed up tomorrow when my favorite villain gets pounded by a guy who a good portion of this video game message board had never even heard of. Just disgusting.

And I would take Diablo over Jill just as easily as I took him over Kefka. I refuse to get screwed over by the PC again, and if I lose, I do not want it to be because I underestimated anyone. Overestimation is what I can live with.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1967

I didn't wanna look it up, but I had to make sure.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

And I would take Diablo over Jill just as easily as I took him over Kefka.

I wouldn't take Diablo over either, myself. I'm not expecting Diablo to be very strong at all.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr05/b10.jpg

I would say it's decent.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

Is Albert his real name, like as used in the game? If so, how come CJayC only uses full names sometimes?

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts

That's not bad...not even the shades keep Wesker from lookin' a lil' dumb though. I thought I remembered him being a lil' cooler-lookin' than that.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

Luca's kinda... blurryish. Still better than a lot of the other pics though.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

Seems like Ceej can only find one Luca pic. I like the full body shot, but it looks pretty bad zoomed in. I'm not a fan of that Wesker pic, either.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!

Are you kidding? I'm voting for Wesker based on that pic alone.
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IT'S COMMANDER BAUKER! (TEAM ??????)
http://img132.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img132&image=bawk8ko.jpg

Luca Blight looks like an astronaut....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Yahoo Image search came up with a bunch of decent Luca pics that could have been used instead.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Gah, I meant who you'd pick if Jill were in Kefka's place. Sorry.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

That still doesn't make the decision any easier with all the wildcards in the division.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

I don't think it's ever been asked, and if it has I don't remember it...but I gotta ask another character match-up: Dr. Wily or Ridley?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

Ridley, barely.
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SpC2k5: 0/8 Next up: Mithos, Luca, Albedo, Diablo
Or, the Katamari thing. It's like getting high, withought the death part. - Link the Midgit

Just got to looking, by the way...outdone by only Halo, Kefka will be the second worst performing one-seed we've ever had.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

I already beat ya to it Harrich. :P This is the worst opening round performance of a one seed outside of Halo. I think Lara Croft is the next one...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

No you didn't...ahem, nope; not at all, mnm...

...****. =P
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

Lookin' like Mithos will get to keep above the 36% mark. Atta' gir...er, guy.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

Just got to looking, by the way...outdone by only Halo, Kefka will be the second worst performing one-seed we've ever had.

That's not really equitable. This is really a 2nd round matchup in terms of previous contests.

Mario got 55% on Shadow when he was a 1-seed in the 2nd round. Sonic got about 55% on Ryu when he was a 1, and under 59% against Tidus. Lara got 59% against Ryo. Pac-Man got about 63% against Kyo and Snake got 63% against Knuckles. In terms of a 1 seed's % in the second round, all those were worse than Kefka. Against much stronger competition (except for Lara and Pac-Man), of course; but if you're comparing performance relative to seeding and round, that's what you have to do.

Remember that if you want to compare rounds with previous contests, you have to always add +1 for this contest.
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www.SC2K5.com

For those saying that Kefka is a worse 1 seed than Lara or Pac Man, take note that 8 seeds are far different from 16 seeds. Kefka's performance in this round is better than what Lara did against Ryo Hazuki or what Pac Man did against Kyo Kusanagi.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

True enough; I shortcutted there, what can I say? Fortunately, since mnm was quick to point out he already said it, he gets 100% of the blame.

A-ha, that'll teach him.....
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

cn beat me to it.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Awwww whatever.... don't act like this contest is full of quality characters. Or are you looking to compare CATS to his fellow 5 seeds? It was just a random statistic...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Almost time to see Wesker's chances at takin' down Kefka.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

88.17% of brackets had Kefka advancing, only slightly more than Liquid.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Luca Blight 36.17% 17
Wesker 63.83% 30
TOTAL VOTES 47

Kefka got 88.17% of the brackets behind him. That's just 1.09% more than what Liquid got, for comparison purposes.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

I know that the seedings are only up to 8. That's why I took care to say worst "opening match" performance by a one seed. There were too many significant matches in the second round of previous contests for it to be of note. None of these 8 seeds are even CLOSE to being on the level of a Shadow or anybody else. Not even relatively. Random statistic! <_<
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."