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Argh, I'm out of it today. Must be the effects of losing my wisdom teeth. I'm getting dumber.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Damn, Kefka's going down again. SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 08/08 - Matches: 08/08 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Wesker

Back under 67% he goes.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Okay, so I checked some Oracle stats, just for kicks.

These are the matches where the consensus was around the losing entry, with the winner's predicted percentage:

Squall vs. Luigi (39.99%)
Halo vs. Starcraft (44.45%)
Starcraft vs. Wind Waker (44.57%)
Joe vs. Tails (46.96%)
Starcraft vs. KH (47.83%)
FF10 vs. SSBM (48.03%)
Link vs. Cloud 2003 (48.19%)
Sora vs. Hayabusa (48.66%)
Mario vs. Crono 2003 (48.84%)
Xenogears vs. Pokémon GSC (49.54%)
Bowser vs. Yoshi (49.74%)
Cloud vs. Sephiroth 2003 (49.99%)

A big WTF at that last one. I'd have expected Sora's expected percentage to be somewhat lower, too.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 08/08 - Matches: 08/08 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Wesker

Perhaps Kefka doesn't start choking on the day vote until about this time? Just throwin' it out there, though it's likely not the case and we don't have much to support it right now.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

There is a minute possiblility that Luca Blight suffered from some degree of RPG SFF. It may exist, it may not, the point is that the better Wesker does on Luca, the closer he is to Magus. I think we were throwing around a doubling of Luca to even have a shot, and that means approaching 70%+ to have a good chance. Magus got 82% on Luca, which may have involved some form on SFF. I mean, you are talking about two of maybe the five biggest badasses in all of RPGdom, so for some voters to choose Magus>Luca>pretty much everyone else would not be horribly shocking.

The point is I think Magus absolutely pastes Wesker, like 70/30 or so. I find it very hard to believe that Wesker can double Luca, so really all we are doing with this Wesker/Kefka match is trying to talk ourselves into a close match that really has little to no shot of being anything except a 55/45+ victory for Kefka.

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Of course I know she had to, just saying that comparing by division finals and all matches leading up to them she was a friggin' monster of a magnitude incomprehensible. There's some chance that she's on the same level as Sephiroth, as in same ability to beat down hardcore but still losing to Cloud and Link. Basically, she looks stronger indirectly but still ends up weaker in a direct match, which is how Seph looks somtimes.

Actually, while Luca could have ahd some sort of SFF (though I doubt it) he could have had somethign quite the reverse. There's a chance since the characters were both of little concern that the lower affected the % in his favor. Abstinatuions may very well have favored Luca in that match.

Not sure if I understand ya here...but, are you saying pity-votes made a difference in Luca's favor?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

No, I'm saying lack of interest in the match altogether helped Luca.

Well, it WAS one of the lowest voted matches last summer, but I blame that on Luca more than I think it benefited Luca.
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Side-note; in the past few minutes, it's been lookin' like Mithos is fighting back for some percentage points and winning quickly. Perhaps the after-school vote? Time'll tell.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
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Msgus never generates votes, though. He just isn't a big vote draw.

This is true. Magus/Sam Fisher had one of the lowest vote totals in 2003 as well.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Magus is supposed to be stronger than Frog...yet all three of his matches had at least 17,000 more votes than Magus's match with Luca. Considering Frog's opponents were Liquid, Master Chief, and Solid as well as all three were kept close whereas Magus blew Luca out hard, I still blame it on Luca and doubt the low vote total helped his cause.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

Of course, that's me assuming strength = ability to attract votes.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

Well, it's certainly possible that the low vote totals helped Fisher. We saw what he did just a year later.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Sam Fisher's also mainstream, which'd help his cause alot more against somebody who doesn't garner many votes; isn't that what's speculated to have happened in Kefka/Pac-Man? Luca doesn't have that courtesy.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman

No, it's just widely speculated that Kefka sucks.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Speaking of Kefka sucking, he's taking a big dive in percentage again.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
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Not even a doubling anymore. Poor Kefka. Perhaps Chichiri was right about there not being a 20XX Factor.

If that's the case, Mithos is approximately around the 14% mark on 2003 Link.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
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at this rate kefka will end the match with 64-65% of votes instead of 67-68%
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Kefka's lookin' like he might dip under 66% here in a little while. Doesn't look like he magically grows in strength annually like Crono does, after all.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
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*cries* Kefka, Nooooo...
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I was just wondering, what would Ramirez be projected to get on Kefka?

Ramirez would get about 34% on Kefka.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

This is under the assumption that Mithos is purely fodder. I mean, I think he is, but I guess it is somewhat possible that Kefka grew a bit in strength, and ToS is more than just board love. The part I love about all this is we may not even have answers to all of our questions when the tournament is over! God I love cannon fodder, and its ability to completely screw up transitive properties!

At the 13:35 mark, this match has 40944 votes. To compare to other matches at this same time:

Sigma/Andross - 37823
Wily/Ultros - 42032
Lavos/Mother Brain - 40406
Liquid/Tenpenny - 42729
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Well okay. ToS sold more in the US than SoA on DC/GC combined. It is newer. I see no reason why Lloyd/Kratos >> Vyse and Mithos > Ramirez.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

I know for a fact that ToS is popular in places other than Board 8. In fact, I first heard about it and was convinced to buy it from the ZSB. I've seen love for it on LUE, LL, and other boards. Even at school, I've heard people talking about it and even seen a couple of copies lent out.
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ToS sold more in the US than SoA on DC/GC combined.

So did Lunar and San Andreas.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Mithos whether hes fodder or not is making a pretty strong impression that Lloyd/Kratos might be stronger than alot of people expected.

Has there been a new Lunar in forever? But ToS and SoA both struck me as around the same type of RPG fanbase, where both RPGs are respected outside of the hardcore RPG lovers.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

Mithos is heading for Pac-Man's X-Sts position now. Hehe, Mithos = Pac-Man sounds so wrong, yet so funny.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 08/08 - Matches: 08/08 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Wesker

*spoilers*

About damn time Albedo makes a meaningful appearance in Xenosaga!!! It was, different, to say the least but I still don't see what all the fuss is about. I think Grahf and Id in Xenogears were much better in Xenogears so far.... I think they are trying to give Albedo the same type of appearance, but it's not really coming out that way. I'm not impressed. Better be one hell of an ending...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I just want to say that if Wesker upsets Kefka, I'm going to kill HaRRicH for convincing me that I had too many upset picks.

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!

Luigi/Pac-Man irregularity, yo.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

^He took his head off?
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Volgin is one sexy beast....

Xenosaga doesnt get any better. Episode II is worst than I in my opinion.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.

*spoilers*

Yep, I just passed that part. Now I get the sound effects from the ytmnd. I thought he was on a slaughtering spree from those effects, but nope... he was slaughtering himself! Still... Id >>>>>>>>> Albedo in badassedness so far...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Has there been a new Lunar in forever?

Lunar legends on GBA was a SSSC remake (I think it's SSSC anyways), and there is a new one announced for the DS. Whether the DS game is another remake, or a new game remains to be seen.
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On what would you blame that? Old-school SFF? We'll need to see Pac-Man one more time, since the 2003 numbers are tainted as well. Either way, after that it's Sam Fisher, who's quite questionable himself, and then much, much higher, it's Conker.

*runs off to 2002 and 2003 for more parallels*
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 08/08 - Matches: 08/08 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Wesker

He's not what he appears: don't take him in like you would Grahf and Id. His motives aren't nearly as pronounced.
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Volgin is one sexy beast....

I just think it's ridiculous to say that Kefka could go from not even getting 51% on Pac-Man to beating him 65/35 by the stats a year later, and think that nothing went wrong.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Wow, you're pessimistic HM. I didn't expect Mithos to be on par with Laharl.

Heh. I find it slightly humorous to hear someone call me pessimistic. =p

Anyway, I expected Mithos to have something of a fanbase given ToS's popularity. It isn't Board 8 that only likes Tales of Symphonia. And Kefka isn't that strong of a competitor to begin with. I've said it before, but it would take someone to be weak as all get out for Kefka to dominate someone.

And what happened to your main, anyway? You hardly ever post with it now. No, lemme guess. Red?

I just like this one more since it hit unlimited posting and got the search function.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

Well, here comes: Mithos is rejoining Little Mac and Spyro the Dragon.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 08/08 - Matches: 08/08 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Kefka - Tomorrow: Wesker

People still think Wesker will beat Kefka? I think the idea of that is crazy. Even more when I saw 55/45 in favor of Wesker. This match isn't making Kefka look bad by any means.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png

First off, the gigantic shifts in faith that pccor with one measly change in percentage are downright hilarious. Everyone already knows that Kefka is weak, but the entire division sucks. Get a grip.

yes, thank you, I'm trying to catch up in this topic, and I couldn't agree more.
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One who knows nothing can understand nothing.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold." - Old Klingon Proverb

Kefka just keeps dropping like a rock. This is pathetic.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!