No one is overestimating Ridley to that degree either. It isn't going to take a lot to beat Diablo.

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^Likewise on the other side of the fence. We don't know what will end up happening. It most likely will be a close match, although I wouldn't be surprised if it went either way. There's justification either way.
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Wesker's first round match will be good, because he happens to be facing someone who's been there before. What he does will tell us more about his chances against Kefka. But I doubt he'll be worth that much... Kefka would have a good, close match with JILL.
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^Who didn't have her own documentary.

Ph33r.
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Volgin is one sexy beast....

I think Kefka will have it pretty easy until his match against Ridley/Diablo/Bison.

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Pffft.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Wesker is more JC Denton than Jill. Wesker's ONLY saving grace might be Barry's yelling of his name in the original RE.

"WEeEeEeeSSSKKEEERRrRrRRRRrRr"

(It sounded like he was saying it while he was shaking his head really fast... <_<)
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At the 14:00 mark, this match has 44842 votes. To compare to the other Jenova Division matches at the same time:

Sephiroth/Ramirez - 55976
Vergil/Ghaleon - 43419
Lavos/Mother Brain - 42856
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What is Jill projected to get on Luca Blight?

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It's impossible to determine; the unadjusted statistics are clearly inaccurate, and the adjusted ones rely on post hoc reasoning.
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Jill would get approximately 70% on Luca Blight.
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Samus would beg to differ with you. Honestly, the odds of you knowing her and not Ridley aren't that great

WTF? That has to be one of the most outlandish statements made around here in a while.

The odds of you knowing Samus but not Ridly are HUGE. It would be no exaggeration whatsoever to say that the vast majority of people who know Samus, have never heard of Ridley. i.e., if you took a poll of every gamer and asked them "Have you heard of Samus/Ridley?", the vast majority of those who answer "Yes" for Samus would say "No" to Ridley.


Slowflake:
Tenpenny looking like CATS? No one. The most pessimistic scenario was something like 75-25.

Not true. The spread was at 50 and many picked Liquid.

BTW, I think the Diablo to Gordon Freeman comparison is terrible. I don't see why people still insist on making it.

Slow, how can you say that Diablo is no Starcraft, right after comparing him to Gordon Freeman? Diablo != Starcraft. Diablo != Gordon Freeman.
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If you know of Samus, you might know Ridley, just not his name.
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Diablo to any PC character does not seem that outlandish to me. He certainly doesn't contain anything huge over his other PC counterparts that have done horribly in the past.

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You should at least recognize Ridley's image if you've played a Metroid game. About the only way you don't at least KNOW of Ridley is if you know Samus solely from Smash Brothers or you've played the two games Ridley does not appear in.
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BTW, I think the Diablo to Gordon Freeman comparison is terrible. I don't see why people still insist on making it.

Perhaps Duke Nukem would be a better comparison: A recognizable image and a game named after him.
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It would be no exaggeration whatsoever to say that the vast majority of people who know Samus, have never heard of Ridley.

It's very strange that you call my statement outlandish and then you go on to say something like this. Are you saying the vast majority of people have never even played a Metroid game?
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Maybe a Duke Nukem closer to his prime.....
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Mumei and Chichi, you picked Ghaleon?

Tsk tsk...
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Ah, well yeah if we're talking about character recognition rather than name recognition than Ridley would be much closer to Samus. But still not in a "majority" sense I would think. Samus has very high awareness among the gaming population overall. A specific boss in the Metroid games wouldn't.
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My statement was not outlandish at all. At *all*. Though I was speaking about name recognition.

Are you saying the vast majority of people have never even played a Metroid game?

Actually this is true. Whether its true at GameFAQs, I don't know, and that's the only thing that matters to us. But among gamers (not casual gamers; mid-level or higher gamers), the statement most people have not played a Metroid game, is true. It would be impossible for it to be otherwise.
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I was talking about the vast majority who also knew Samus, not the vast majority in general.
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Actually this is true. Whether its true at GameFAQs, I don't know, and that's the only thing that matters to us. But among gamers (not casual gamers; mid-level or higher gamers), the statement most people have not played a Metroid game, is true. It would be impossible for it to be otherwise.

I actually hadn't even played any Metroid games until last year. And even now I haven't gotten very far in one.

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!

I was talking about the vast majority who also knew Samus, not the vast majority in general.

So was I.
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About Ridley, I think it's more or less how MUCH of a Metroid game people have played. Besides briefly appearing in the beginning of Super Metroid and Metroid Prime, Ridley has no presence in the actual GAMES of the Metroid series (said that so Heroic Mario won't barge in with Ridley backstory). With the focus so heavily on Samus in the series, it's quite possible for gamers to have played Metroid games and not really know who Ridley is, barring the fact that they etched his early apperances in Super Metroid and Metroid Prime to memory.

Not saying this is entirely true for a lot of gamers, but it IS possible. We're assuming that most gamers have played and BEATEN the Metroids....
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I see nothing farfetched in assuming that a large number of people who will vote for Samus have both played and completed at least one Metroid title. I would assume even more. It matters very, very little about what the mass public things. It is all about GameFAQs, where Metroid would be at its strongest as opposed to any other gaming website.

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I still think that either way, since two Metroid villians (Isn't that like..one of the few games to get two villians?), they must be recognizeable. I don't know...

The fact too that Mother Brain did so well against Lavos helps Ridley as well.

I still have confidence Ridley will win.
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It is all about GameFAQs, where Metroid would be at its strongest as opposed to any other gaming website.

This is certainly true.


BTW, I would agree that Duke Nukem seems to be a much better comparison to Diablo than Gordon Freeman.
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And Tenpenny finally gets it under 80%... can he keep it there? For the love of the sacred bovine I hope so.

since two Metroid villians (Isn't that like..one of the few games to get two villians?)

The only games with two villains in this contest are (I believe) Metroid, FFVI, and Kingdom Hearts.
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The Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil series have two villains apiece.
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And SOME people thought 80% was crazy.

I know I said it already, but meh.
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Liquid Snake vs. Tenpenny - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (7/7)

I thought I explicitly mentioned that I didn't think Diablo would be the next Gordon.
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It pains me to say it, but I definitely overestimated Tenpenny.

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Metroid might be at it's strongest here but the games themselves were utter crap in the Spring Contest compared to Samus.

The Metroid games went up against another Nintendo title every time. You cannot say they didn't perform well when there clearly isn't enough to say that they performed like crap. The adjusted X-sts look about correct to me, as far as Metroid games placement. And if StarCraft were adjusted to show the cheated votes, you would see that Super Metroid and StarCraft wouldn't be that far apart. I think it is very safe to say that the Metroid titles would have performed far better had they not been matched up with Mario and Zelda games.

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Liquid is certainly on a drop in percentage right now.

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Ruin Division: Round 1 - Match 9 – (1)Kefka vs. (8)Mithos

Moltar’s Analysis

Kefka
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy 6

That lovable ball of lettuce is back for the villain contest. This time, he’s a 1 seed!

Mithos
Game/Series Known From: Tales of Symphonia

I’m afraid of saying anything about him hear, just in case I spoil anything. Then again, what hasn’t been spoiled for you poor ToS fans?

Oh boy, enter the Ruin Division. This Division is possibly the scariest one since the last Spring Contest. Remember, the bottom division? With Starcraft and SSBM? That one. Here, brackets will bleed and stats will shatter. Perfects will fade, crying and whining will rise again.

Of course though, you can’t just enter a division with a BANG!. Halo/Starcraft did it, but no match with Kefka and Mithos can follow in those footsteps. Kefka isn’t very strong in the Summer Contest, so it is a bit surprising that he nailed a 1 seed here. Liquid would probably be much more deserving of it. Mithos hails from ToS, and if a ToS character like Mithos can get in here, then maybe 1 or 2 can get in the Summer Contest. I mean, we already have many CT, Sonic and Mega Man characters, and the Final Fantasy guys and gals can have their own division!

Uh, here, let me try and stay on track…Kefka will beat Mithos….now to end before I lose track of myself again. I tend to lose track of a lot of things. One minute I could be talking about the match, another it could be something completely different, possibly even something not GameFAQs rel-ALAYEELAYAEEYAEEEYEAYYE!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Kefka will win

Moltar’s Prediction is: Kefka 65% - Mithos 35%



Ulti’s Analysis

Way to go, CJayC. You just spoiled Tales of Symphonia for everyone who hasn't played it yet. Why he isn't being called Yggdrasil, who knows.

Anyway, while Mithos may put up a good fight, I don't think he's as strong as Kefka. RPGs not from Squaresoft rarely stand up to Square in these things.

Prediction: Kefka with 58.89%, which will oddly be the biggest victory he's ever had.
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Liquid Snake vs. Tenpenny - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (7/7)

Soul’s Analysis

Kefka is from FF6. A game which a lot of people consider is the best FF game ever. To me, the best would have to be FFX. Why? Because it's the only one that I have played, even if it was only for 10 minutes.

Mithos is from ToS. Again, another RPG game that I refuse to play. Well, refuse would be too harsh really. A game that I do not want to play.

You know what that means? Since I have no clue who these guys are, it's time to relay on the stats and popular opinion. We all know Kefka is not that strong of a character. I'm sure Ulti will provide you with
the X-Stats of Kefka. Just got word Ulti is not using X-Stats. OH well, I'm sure you all know he's not the strongest FF villain. Although I'm sure Kefka has this match won, this information will be key to his next matches. He is overseeded, to say it bluntly. He should not have got a 1 seed. The 1 seed should have gone to Ridley and Diablo should have had the 2 seed. That way, we will see those two in the Division finals. Instead, we have the meant for 3 seed Kefka taking the top spot.

Anyway, Kefka wins with 64.06%.



Outback’s Analysis

Spoilers again




The craziest evil villain of all time vs. someone who wants to **** his sister
Please, Ceej, no Lettuce Kefka this time

Kefka Palazzo of FFVI is my personal favorite villain of all time; right from the quote that we all know and love ("Ahem! I've got SAND on my boots!") to the final battle, Kefka was a villain that kept me into the game. Although his final battle was unremarkable in terms of difficulty, that doesn't take much away from him, especially considering his opponent's final battle was just as lackluster if not easier.

Mithos Yggdrasiil of ToS is another villain who comes from a great game, but I didn't feel the connection to him as I did to Kefka. Mithos was just a plot device to me, and had nothing on characters like Botta, Yuan, or Rodyle. His whole motivation is his sister, and, like Kefka, the final fight against him is rather easy. I'm voting Kefka in this match, and Kefka will win.

Kefka 73.55 Mithos 27.45


Inviso’s Analysis

And today, the Ruin division begins with the only match that no one has in question, at all. Kefka is the villain of FFVI, a very popular game on Gamefaqs, while Mithos is from Tales of Symphonia, a decent seller on the Gamecube, but nothing more than cult. This match was over before it began…but the big point of it is how well Mithos can do on Kefka. This will help determine Kefka’s strength for his next few matches.

Now, you see…Kefka…is a weak bastard. In 2003, he narrowly beat Pacman…a character more pathetic than sandy boot boy. Then he was gang-shanked by one person, in the form of Crono, before getting beaten against by Knuckles in 2004. Now, Kefka…most likely won’t win his division. He may be the one seed, but come on, he’s a pathetic choice. Liquid Snake should’ve been here…evened out the bracket so people could get it perfect. If Kefka has trouble with Mithos, he’ll have trouble with his next opponent, and could definitely lose.

My Prediction: Kefka with 74.06%
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Liquid Snake vs. Tenpenny - Bracket: Liquid - Vote: Liquid (7/7)

Tenpenny is still being tripled. :-)

Wily is toast.
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Wily is toast.

...

Tai, what the hell?

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Tenpenny's looking pretty damn weak. No way I'd pick him over Lavos now.

I bet even Raikov could take Tenpenny. Who else thinks so?
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Tai, what the hell?

I don't think Wily can beat Ocelot, now.
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Why? This isn't a sign of Liquid's strength. It's a sign of Tenpenny's weakness. I fail to see how this match could give you greater confidence about Ocelot/Wily. We know well that Liquid was a strong competitor in these contests to begin with. I always assumed he got help from having the "Snake" portion in his name to boot. But nothing today has changed my opinion on Ocelot/Wily. Yes, I have Ocelot in my bracket but I'm not feeling any more/less confident than I was before. I don't see how you could either.

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The whole argument that Diablo is more recognizable than Ridley because he appears on the box of the original game is ridiculous.

Appearing on the box (and quite different from his appearance in the game) of a game released in 1996 is NOT going to help Diablo at all.

That's like saying Ridley's a shoe-in because he's featured prominently on Super Metroid's box.
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Furhtermore, Diablo is a very comparable case to Duke Nukem, as has been pointed out earlier.

Has the series named after him? Check.

Has his mug right on the box? Check.

More recognizable than Ridley? Maybe.

The difference? Duke Nukem is the main character of his series. Diablo is a boss fight.
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And Duke Nukem games are nowhere near as well liked as Diablo games.

i have never played a metroid game. I know who samus is but before the contest had never heard or seen ridley before.i am a casual gamer.
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I can't believe the trend now is to compare Diablo to DUKE NUKEM!!!! What the hell? Even though Duke Nukem may be the BEST comparison for Diablo, doesn't mean it's a GOOD comparison. You guys act like we have tons of PC characters to collect data from. We've had all of like what, 2-3 examples of PC characters? Just because they are PC doesn't mean they all are comparable. It's obvious Diablo is a unique situation, just like Starcraft was, just how I believe Gordon Freeman is. Gordon Freeman isn't as popular as his game not because he is a PC character. It's because he is Gordon Freeman. Until I see 100 examples of PC characters not being close to their games, I'm gonna decline all the use of comparisons and continue to look at each match individually.
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I must be the exception then. I'd never played a Metroid game until Prime, and I knew who Ridley was. I recognized him right off the bat in the Super Smash Brothers Melee intro.
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