I've heard people ranking Bison from 2nd to 8th; the only thing people agree on with Street Fighter popularity is that Ryu is #1.

From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/9/2005 6:59:38 PM | Message Detail
Kefka > Seymour > Kuja >> Ultimecia >= Sin >= Ultros as far as contest strength goes.

That's a lot of assuming, given that we've seen all of two of those characters in action thusfar and that two of them didn't even make it in the first place.

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I would say Bison is 5th at best, behind Ryu, Akuma, Ken, and Chun-Li (in that order).
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I think most/all of the SF2 cast after Ryu and Ken (maybe Chun-Li, too) would level off somewhat-evenly a lil' below Ken. I think Ken 2k3 was just short of being equal to Tails, who's just a lil' stronger than Kefka (though I think Kefka'd take Tails in a head-to-head match), so I don't think M. Bison would be much lower than that...

...but he didn't make anybody proud in that upset poll either, so depending on how much stock should be put into that poll (probably not alot, but it's something worth looking at), I may be wrong on my theory.
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Ryu may win the SF2 poll easily, but I don't think he is that much stronger than someone like Chun-Li in a 1-1 match, 60-40 tops. If someone can come close to 80 percent of Ryu's popularity, he'd run away with the division, but Bison ain't Chun-Li or Ken either. Wesker is the wildcard.
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Akuma too; forgot to mention him.
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Bison should have layed off those cheestos, he could of made 5 easily.
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Oh, my opinion on the SF ladder, based off of nothing more than a guess:

1 - Ryu
2 - Ken
3 - Chun-Li
4(t) - Akuma
4(t) - M. Bison
6 - Sagat
7 - Cammy
8 - Guile
9 - Vega
10 - Tons of people not worth noting

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I am not sure if Akuma is well known enough to be considered SF2 top 5... though he did kill Bison.
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If Chun-Li was at a 60/40 proportion with Ryu, that would put her between Knux and Vercetti, which means she'd beat Ken with about 57%. I wouldn't see that. Then again, RPGuy's adjustments for WDF have 2002 Ken in that same area.
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"Whoever wins between Ridley and Diablo takes the division."

Let me state that in the correct way. Whoever wins between Ridley and Diablo gets beaten by Kefka.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/9/2005 7:09:52 PM | Message Detail
I am not sure if Akuma is well known enough to be considered SF2 top 5

Sometimes I wonder if you honestly believe half the crap you post. Though given your history of alt trolling with all of that "Red XII" crap, it's impossible to believe much of what you say.

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I seriously expect Kefka, Bison, Ridley, and Diablo and possibly even Wesker though Vergil isnt a good sign, to be within 3 percentages points of each other.
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I am not sure if Akuma is well known enough to be considered SF2 top 5... though he did kill Bison.

Oh, there's no doubt he is. Ever since he made his first appearance (and with a big bang at that), he's been in just about everything involving Street Fighter.

Plus, the casuals love him. He's SF's version of Shadow the Hedgehog, if you will.
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Ken apparently fell like a rock between 2k2 and 2k3, and I haven't the slightest idea why.
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Let me state that in the correct way. Whoever wins between Ridley and Diablo gets beaten by M. Bison.

Fixed.

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And it's strange that Ken would take a dive for seemingly no reason when his counterpart is the embodiment of consistency in this contest.
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I think Akuma would be higher than M.Bison and Chun-Li. He's easily the most popular SF character among casuals after Ryu. I also don't really see any reason Sagat would be that high but blah.

Peoplewent crazy over Akuma when he first appeared, everyone thought he was Shen long.

And Akuma's been in every SF game except the first 4 SFII games and SFIII NG.

As well as X-Men Child of the Atom and Cyberbots.
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I think we need to throw the 2002 stats off a large large cliff.
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There could have been mass bracket voting in his match with Sonic lolololo

>_>

K, I need to go and study for my final before I go nuts. Ciao.

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Sagat should be pretty high, he's easily one of the most Badassed street Fighter characters just by his looks.
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Yeah, I think Akuma's safely in the Top 5 as far as general Street Fighter popularity is. I am a bit surprised that nobody's considered Dan Hibiki or Sakura as possible top ten choices.
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The problem with Akuma is a good percentage of the people who would for Ryu will remember him for those first four SF games. I dont know the sales numbers, but SF dropped off in popularity somewhere after Turbo/Super.
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Casuals hate Dan and Sakura isen't used if she's not broken.
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If I had things my way, Dhalsim >>> all.

Fortunately, I don't.
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I've got Sagat up there because of how well-used he is. He's top tier in a ton of games, and everyone who plays fighting games professionally is a tier whore. There are also a lot of fighting game fans on this site, underrated as their characters may be.

What's that one game where Sagat's warping fierce punch and low fierce kick make him borderline broken, again?

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Akuma was in all of those popular VS games involving Capcom.
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Street Fighter has to be the least known about original game of a big series ever. I for the longest time just thought they started the series with Street Fighter II.
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Capcom vs SNK 2 or Old Sagat in Super turbo
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I actually saw an original Street Fighter arcade machine about 3 or 4 years ago. Too bad I didn't have any quarters.
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There was only one playable character in Street Fighter 1 and it was Ryu, notmention bad controls and Sagat having total prority over all your attacks.
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If we were just talking about the first 4 games, I could see Blanka being right behind Ryu and Ken in likeability.
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Ken was playable in SF1.

What's that one game where Sagat's warping fierce punch and low fierce kick make him borderline broken, again?

I believe that was Capcom vs SNK 2

Or more of behind Guile for being most hated.
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Actually what I read, Ken was also playable. Or atleast thats what the only Gamefaqs faq page says.
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Ken was the 2nd player for player vs. player games.
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Ken was a pallete swap for two player.
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I wasn't aware that Akuma is that well known to casuals. What about Evil Ryu??? Now thats a mean SOB.

it's been about 15 or something years since I played SF1, but I think 1P was Ryu and 2P was Ken.

if I had to rank sf2 characters, it'd go Ryu-Ken-Chun Li-Akuma-Guile-Bison-everyone else. I've never known anyone to care about Sagat or Blanca.

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Well we were like nine and maybe me and my friends just thought he was cool because of the blood sucking.
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Bowser, Sephiroth and Ultros are my favorite villains in this contest.

Golbez, Wiegraf, Bowser, and Garland (in no particular order) are probably my favorite video game villains overall.


Hojo would be a wildcard in this contest...I don't think anyone particularly cares about him, so he could be real weak; OTOH he might be able to beat guys like Vergil.


I remember a time when Blanka may have been the most popular SF2 character. He was real hot for a little while.
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For being a poor man's Akuma, Evil Ryu is VERY popular.
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I used to like Sagat, and I once had a dog when I was a kid named Blinka ('cuz that's how I thought you said it at the time, heh).
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All this button mashing talk reminds me of last year's awesome match between the superior Super Mario RPG and that button masher with all the emo fanboys who wouldn't quit crying weeks after the match.

Good times, good times.
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button mashing = Soul Calibur

Mario RPG diden't beat Soul Calibur.
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