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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 119
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/9/2005 12:39:03 AM | Message Detail
This shall be deemed "The Glass Prison" edition of the stats topic. A cookie to whoever gets the double meaning behind this statement.

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm



*Match Pictures*

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

!yawA tsoP
From: futuresuperstar | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:12:36 PM | Message Detail
Post. Why has no one posted yet? Awkward. Oh, and for the record, Diablo will defeat Ridley. Yes, indeed, he shall.

On that note, drop a vote in the CAC4, people! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=20863986

~*The Metal Gear Master*~
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SpC2K5 Statistics: 6/6 --- Lavos vs Mother Brain
The Author of Metal Gear Solid: Dawn of the Concealed ... Coming Soon ...
From: andaca | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:14:33 PM | Message Detail
Diablo is going to get beat like a red headed stepchild.
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:15:13 PM | Message Detail
Ridley will beat Diablo.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Gordon Finish | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:16:41 PM | Message Detail
=)

Right on time.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:16:51 PM | Message Detail
Ridley will indeed beat Diablo.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:22:34 PM | Message Detail
Whoever wins between Ridley and Diablo takes the division.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: cyko | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:27:25 PM | Message Detail
i repeat my statement from the last topic:

i would've taken Lavos, Vergil, AND Mother Brain over Tenpenny.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:28:21 PM | Message Detail
...and I'll repeat that it's tough for me to agree about Mother Brain beating Officer Tenpenny.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:28:33 PM | Message Detail
Whoever wins between Ridley and Diablo takes the division.

Despite who wins, Bison will be the one advancing out of the division.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:30:30 PM | Message Detail
Bison will do good, but I'm gonna wait until his match with Albedo before I change my stance.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: swirldude | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:34:25 PM | Message Detail
>_>
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O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:35:05 PM | Message Detail
Kefka will make it out of the division with ease, seeing as how he's the 5th strongest guy in the contests and the other 4 are in other divisions.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:42:30 PM | Message Detail
Two seconds, Harrich....

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:42:43 PM | Message Detail
Also, it was 2k4. What else did we have?

Both of Frog's matches were much better. Heck, the shock value of Sora whipping Hayabusa was more enjoyable than seeing the same match twice.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:42:53 PM | Message Detail
Who would you pick in Kefka vs. Ocelot if that match were to occur?
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=20785532 - The GameFAQs Fanfiction Project, based off of the Spring Contest!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:42:57 PM | Message Detail
Three in a row, HM...
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:43:39 PM | Message Detail
Nice job at preventing the last post in the topic being a dirty lie, HaRRicH.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:43:55 PM | Message Detail
Don't curse Bison HM.

Or I'll send Norimaru at you.
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BANG BANG BANG VIPER BEAM!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:44:24 PM | Message Detail
It would have been a fact, not a lie.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:44:24 PM | Message Detail
Kefka is the 5th strongest to have been in contests before. He will be the 7th strongest when this tournament is over, behind both Kuja and Diablo.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:44:48 PM | Message Detail
Oh yeah, both of Frog's matches were better; no question there. I'm just saying Ryu H./Jill was still a great match. Two days were over-kill, but it had to be done, and it still worked out better than the first day.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:45:18 PM | Message Detail
Kuja and Bison will rank ahead of him, while there will be numerous characters to rank around him.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: therealmnm | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:45:28 PM | Message Detail
I was more pissed at Ryu not getting his ninja representation than I was at Sora beating him. To be honest I wasn't shocked at all... It was just a match I never sat back and thought about. I wondered why Sora did so poorly in 2k3, but I never questioned it. I always thought he was a likeable character... I liked him WAY more than I liked Tidus.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:45:33 PM | Message Detail
It would have been a fact, not a lie.

Even if somebody's favorite villain was Bowser?
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: NewLib | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:46:00 PM | Message Detail
How can Kuja be stronger than Robotnik after losing to him?
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:46:24 PM | Message Detail
Probably because he won't lose to Robotnik.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:46:28 PM | Message Detail
Even if somebody's favorite villain was Bowser?

I said that having a good idea of who everyone's favorite villain was that frequents this topic. =p

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:47:25 PM | Message Detail
How can Kuja be stronger than Robotnik after losing to him?

Kuja won't be losing to Robotnik.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:47:27 PM | Message Detail
Kefka could end up being #5 in ruin division.
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Smurf
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:48:18 PM | Message Detail
If I recall correctly, creative's favorite villain is Bowser. If not, he's way up there.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: swirldude | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:49:36 PM | Message Detail
Bowser is my favorite villain. Eat that.
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O, flesh, flesh, how art thou fishified! ~Mercutio
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:49:58 PM | Message Detail
I know creativename liked Bowser a lot, but I didn't know if it were his favorite villain. I thought it was someone from Final Fantasy.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
http://img50.echo.cx/img50/131/justadream7fz.png
From: NewLib | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:50:45 PM | Message Detail
Lavos being the second of five Final Fantasy villians not named Sephiroth isnt making the prospect of Sin and Kuja winning looking as good. Sin I think is basically dead in the water at this point if Robotnik is anywhere near Wily. Kuja is more like Kefka, but I cant see him beyond Kefka no matter what his personality is simply because FFVI is the second favorite FF game and FFIX is well below it. Kuja going to land somewhere in between Lavos/Sin and Kefka, and once again if Robotnik is anywhere near Wily he should be able to beat Kuja too.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:50:50 PM | Message Detail
Bowser is my favorite villain. Eat that.

You never crossed my mind seeing as how I rarely, if ever, see you actively take part in the discussions.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:50:56 PM | Message Detail
I'd have Bowser win a favorites-bracket if I made one.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:51:13 PM | Message Detail
Well, I can say for sure that Moltar's favorite character period is Ganondorf. You're sayin' Lavos > Ganon?
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:52:07 PM | Message Detail
I suppose I would be saying that.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:53:03 PM | Message Detail
err I meant Square, point still stands.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:54:25 PM | Message Detail
Lavos being the second of five Final Fantasy villians not named Sephiroth isnt making the prospect of Sin and Kuja winning looking as good.

You're comparing the likes of Lavos and Ultros to Kuja? Come on now, that's about as crazy as it gets. I can understand comparing it to Sin, but it doesn't make any sense to compare them to Kuja. I think Kuja would be both rather easily.

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“The past is dead. It was all just a dream…”
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:56:30 PM | Message Detail
I think people are getting out of hand saying Sin would beat Kuja, too. Seymour, I could understand and would likely agree with, but not Sin, whom I would expect to be a good bit below. I'd put Kuja relatively close to Seymour.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:56:50 PM | Message Detail
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 6:40:26 PM | Message Detail
Hayabusa/Jill was probably the dullest close match ever.


Heck no, I loved that match. Best PCA writeup I ever made.

~*ST*~
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From: NewLib | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:59:20 PM | Message Detail
HM, you even read the entire thing? I compared Kuja mostly to Kefka which is a more than fair comparision. The fact that Square fans dont seem to support their villians well at all. Sephiroth is the exception because well he isnt all that villianous. If you take the actual #1 villian of FFVII which is Hojo, I be surprised if he did any better than Kefka. Square fans vote for heroes and likeable anti-hero/ misunderstood characters.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/9/2005 3:59:38 PM | Message Detail
Kefka > Seymour > Kuja >> Ultimecia >= Sin >= Ultros as far as contest strength goes.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: Lopen | Posted: 5/9/2005 4:00:13 PM | Message Detail
Despite who wins, Bison will be the one advancing out of the division.

Weren't you saying Ridley will take the division before? Or at the very least saying that Kefka would beat M. Bison...? I'm sure you were one the ones I was arguing with.

Whatever, I can't say I disagree with you now. Bison's got it in the bag, yo.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/9/2005 4:01:09 PM | Message Detail
Jill/Ryu was one of the most exciting matches ever. A full 2 days worth of suspense, no match can top that!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/9/2005 4:01:20 PM | Message Detail
I wish Hojo got to take somebody else's place in this tourney; I think Luca's or Albedo's spot would have been the best suited for him to raise some hell...maybe Nemesis's.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily
"What awaits each person in Heaven is eternal peace, divine rest, and $10,000 cash." --Cartman
From: NewLib | Posted: 5/9/2005 4:01:26 PM | Message Detail
I think people are also over-estimating Bison. He is what the fifth or sixth most popular SF character, and nowhere near Ryu who is the face of the franchise.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: NewLib | Posted: 5/9/2005 4:03:40 PM | Message Detail
I actually wish Hojo replaced Ultros in this contest. It make that division MUCH more interesting as I could see some people taking Hojo to win it and others take him to lose to Wily.
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Vote for Robotnik, he isnt a woman or a giant slug or a .... hand.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/9/2005 4:04:15 PM | Message Detail
Well, it's possible that Bison is crammed together into a small space with Ken, Chun-Li, and maybe Guile.
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Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
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