True, but my crazy claims are 85% of the time only for the purpose of sparking conversation.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

. . . Yes and the problem is?

You think Wily will do so well because you're biased; towards Megaman.


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Tai calling someone biased? Kettle! Pot!
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You think Wily will do so well because you're biased; towards Megaman.

I didn't say Wily would obliterate Ultros. I merely said that Wily would get over 60%, which is more than possible. Anyone thinking it is impossible, or unlikely, is simply out of their mind.

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Tai calling someone biased? Kettle! Pot!

The truth must be spoken.
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And yes, I am biased. I'll be the first person to tell you that no matter what the subject is.

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I didn't say Wily would obliterate Ultros. I merely said that Wily would get over 60%, which is more than possible. Anyone thinking it is impossible, or unlikely, is simply out of their mind.

Dude, open your eyes. Ultros is a Square character. Sigma faced a Nintendo character, and what happened? He was lucky to break 53%. And that was with the help of a site.

Wily indeed could get 60%, but he just won't.


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Dude, open your eyes. Ultros is a Square character.

And that does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that he'll be strong. Being aligned with a company does not mean automatic strength.

Sigma faced a Nintendo character, and what happened? He was lucky to break 53%. And that was with the help of a site.

Wait, why are you thinking it was bad that Andross was a Nintendo character? If anything, you just gave a good reason as to why Sigma didn't do well as opposed to making it seem like Nintendo is "weak."

Wily indeed could get 60%, but he just won't.

I said he will; you said he won't. I fail to see how you're more right than I am.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

"you just gave a good reason as to why Sigma didn't do well"

I think that was the point. Nintendo and Square are the houses around here. Sigma couldn't do that well against one, why should Wily do so much better against the other?
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Sigma couldn't do that well against one, why should Wily do so much better against the other?

Wily could very well be more popular than Sigma; Ultros could very well be less popular than Andross. There's reason enough to believe that Wily could do much better. But, it's also possible that he might not. I, for one, don't think Ultros will be worth anything, especially given how weak Kefka is.

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Yeah, Andross wasn't worth anything either.
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Thing is, you're taking the extreme point here. That's why it's of not. A more conservative stance would be something more like today. And if you were to ask me right now (which is unnecessary as I've giving that info up anyway) I'd take Ultros over Andross.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

And that does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that he'll be strong. Being aligned with a company does not mean automatic strength.

See, that's why you, and a lot of other Extraoverrated **** riders picked Ryu Flopyabusa to beat Sora and I had a great day laughing at the guys foolish enough to do so. :-) Ryu didn't even get 39%. XD

You don't learn, do you? Ultros won't beat Wily, but, he will break the spread in two.

Wait, why are you thinking it was bad that Andross was a Nintendo character? If anything, you just gave a good reason as to why Sigma didn't do well as opposed to making it seem like Nintendo is "weak."

I didn't say whether it was good or bad about Andross beat a Nintendo character. I am saying that's why he did so well against Sigma. If anything, it is good, since it increases Sin's chances to win to a tiny extent.

I said he will; you said he won't. I fail to see how you're more right than I am.

I just told you. Please read more carefully, now.
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I personally don't know who I would take in Andross/Ultros. Both of them are both going to be incredibly weak.

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What would Fox get against Kefka in a match?
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See, that's why you, and a lot of other Extraoverrated **** riders picked Ryu Flopyabusa to beat Sora and I had a great day laughing at the guys foolish enough to do so. :-) Ryu didn't even get 39%. XD

Let me say right now, that you are absolutely horrible at making up things. Between "TAI'D UP AND HANG'D" and now "Flopyabusa," I'm trying to decide by which means you should be removed from the planet. Seriously, those are about as stupid as I've heard.

And the reason for Sora doing well was the extreme SFF he suffered in the previous year. Hayabusa would have won had he been in the position he was projected to be in. But that has little to do with solely being a Square character. If that is the only factor one can bring to an argument, then their argument is a worthless piece of **** anyway.

You don't learn, do you? Ultros won't beat Wily, but, he will break the spread in two.

If it does play out 55-45 in favor of Wily, it will be because I overestimated Wily and nothing more.

I didn't say whether it was good or bad about Andross beat a Nintendo character. I am saying that's why he did so well against Sigma. If anything, it is good, since it increases Sin's chances to win to a tiny extent.

I don't see how that increases Sin's chances, but you and Ulti do seem to have ways of coming up with crazy stuff.

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Fox would be projected to get just under 48% against Kefka.

Who knows? Maybe Star Fox Assault has done something for them. It was their first release in 7+ years.
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So, Kefka and Fox are pretty close in the stats.

Wouldn't Ultros be pretty close to Andross then?
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Whew, holy **** guys...I'm DONE with my freshman year at UT!!! Now, the hard part: finishing packing, heh. I'm about to unhook the computer, so I may or may not be back on tonight...but my quick two cents:

-I'd take Andross over Ulti in a close one.
-Depending on how Ultros does, we may have an idea of how M. Bison and Master Hand will do (hell, maybe Tenpenny too). If Ultros gets beat pretty good by Dr. Wily, there's a pretty decent chance Bison and MH wouldn't be much stronger, thus instantly molesting my bracket's chances of success. However, if Ultros does respectable, there may be reason to have more faith in Bison and MH.
-I THINK Fox would get the same on Kefka that Tails would: around 52-48. Since Fox's last match though, SF:Ass was released and it's still pretty new (though Andross-free, and barely has a mention and an imitation of Andross); take that into consideration.


Packin' the computer up, bye-bye for now.
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Harrich, may I ask what school is UT, Texas or Tennessee?

Also today was my last day of finals for my freshman year of college at University of Kentucky
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I'm still catching up with this topic, but I just noticed the leaderboard. ksakura (the guy on the leaderboard with CATS winning) is my roommate. His bracket was basically a favorites/joke bracket that he filled out in about 2 minutes, so I wasn't expecting to see him on the leaderboard.
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Let me say right now, that you are absolutely horrible at making up things. Between "TAI'D UP AND HANG'D" and now "Flopyabusa," I'm trying to decide by which means you should be removed from the planet. Seriously, those are about as stupid as I've heard.

Don't forget Extraoverrated...X_x'..ok, forget it..

And the reason for Sora doing well was the extreme SFF he suffered in the previous year. Hayabusa would have won had he been in the position he was projected to be in. But that has little to do with solely being a Square character. If that is the only factor one can bring to an argument, then their argument is a worthless piece of **** anyway.

Yes, Sora suffered extreme SFF from Aeris, a Final Fantasy character. One of FF7, no doubt..which sparks a problem in itself already: how can Sora get SFF'ed by a character that has a less significant role in Kingdom Hearts than him? Sora's the main character..

Also, the truth is, Hayabusa could never beat Sora, IMO...no one likes X-Box, everyone likes Square. Hey, maybe saying solely that "Sora is from Square" wasn't really a valid arguement, but it got you 2 points, like it or not. Either way, there's more than enough evidence to back that up. It just seems insane, that's all. But, can you really prove that it's no doubt something else? It very well could have been Square.

I don't see how that increases Sin's chances, but you and Ulti do seem to have ways of coming up with crazy stuff.

In a way, Dr. Robotnik is similar to Wily and Sigma..but, it's a tiny hunch.

Uncle Andy vs Uncle Ulti.... it be a Gamefaqs family fued.

Who's Andy? O_o'
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Andross, and they generally shorthand Ultros's name as "Ulty."
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Andross. I know he is atleast refered to as Uncle Andross in Star Fox 64 by his nephew. But I have heard of him refered to as Uncle Andy by people before.
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I'm still catching up with this topic, but I just noticed the leaderboard. ksakura (the guy on the leaderboard with CATS winning) is my roommate. His bracket was basically a favorites/joke bracket that he filled out in about 2 minutes, so I wasn't expecting to see him on the leaderboard.

Tell him that all his mockery base are belong to Ansem. Thanx. :-)
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Damn all of you people that are already done with finals. I have my last one of my freshman year at UTEP tomorrow. Fortunately, it's going to be an easy one.

To think just about everyone was talking about Ocelot being legitimate 6 seed material in the Summer Contest, including me. How wrong we were.
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Harrich, may I ask what school is UT, Texas or Tennessee?

Since it looks like he's out of commission for a while, I can answer this:

He's a Tennessee Vol, baby.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

I'd take Ultros over Andross without a second thought. I'm telling you, you're all (well, except maybe Tai and Ulti) underestimating the octopus.
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God, am I enjoying this. It's amazing how one match can change everyone's minds so quickly.

Anyway, assume for a minute that Wily vs Ultros has the exact same score as today's match. Would that put an end to all the Wily > Ocelot stuff? Because seriously, it's reached overkill level at this point, and I'd love for some common sense to come back to the board.

Much Ado About Nothing.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Here is what I read in that post...

"Blah blah blah... common sense... blah blah blah... board."

Surely you jest? How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you are ranting and raving like a loon about the board displaying common sense? What next, you expect to read about <gasp> social lives?

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And you are already well aware of where I stand on what will happen tomorrow, so don't read into my 'blah blah blah' as discrediting your position... but your sheer lunacy in regards to common sense are making me rethink my position...

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Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr05/b04.jpg

That's a good shot of Wily. There's not a lot of variety for Ultros, so that's pretty much what I expected him to get.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr05/pollhead.jpg

Also, that's an awesome contest banner. Kinda surprised the obvious winner wasn't included though.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Lovin' that banner!
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Wow, that's the best pic of Wily I've ever seen. It looks like he's about to flip us off for doubting his strength! lol

And Tai, PLEASE be quiet. Every post that I read of yours makes me cringe. You've said too much for me to even want to point out all the ignorant things you've said... Nobody likes X-Box??? Since when? Ryu isn't even an X-Box character! The reason Ryu was favored wasn't just because of the X-Stats, it was because we all expected to see Ryu in full ninja form, which he didn't get. Sure Sora would have still won, but that wasn't a full strength Ryu that we've seen.
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The kiddies are gonna be all over the colorful calamari. Kefka as the main attraction on the banner? Do we have confirmation that CJayC is a big Kefka fan? No Sephiroth OR Kuja? And who is the guy in the upper left corner?

Personally, replace Clown Kefka with CATS, and that is one pimp banner.

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Agreed to the max... both on Tai's ignorant balhooey, and more importantly, Prince of Persia Ryu.

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And who is the guy in the upper left corner?

That would be Vergil.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Do we have confirmation that CJayC is a big Kefka fan?

No, but he's regularly admitted to having a clown fetish. Rumor has it he's on the verge of exercising his power and admitting Doink and Dink into the Summer Contest.
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The only problem I have with the Wily/Ultros pic is that Wily simply dwarves Ultros.
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Contest Stats: 2/2 Next Winner: Ocelot

I picked thatpansy over Ghaleon? Ugh... I couldn't be more disgusted if they slapped up Robotnik in Kuja's thong.

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Virgil looks more like Ryo than Dante....
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I picked that pansy over Ghaleon? Ugh... I couldn't be more disgusted if they slapped up Robotnik in Kuja's thong.

THE BURNING! WHY WON'T IT STOP!
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And Tai, PLEASE be quiet. Every post that I read of yours makes me cringe. You've said too much for me to even want to point out all the ignorant things you've said... Nobody likes X-Box??? Since when? Ryu isn't even an X-Box character! The reason Ryu was favored wasn't just because of the X-Stats, it was because we all expected to see Ryu in full ninja form, which he didn't get. Sure Sora would have still won, but that wasn't a full strength Ryu that we've seen.

You're taking about how you think I'm ignorant, yet you talk about Ryu's full ninja form? The **** outta here.

That doesn't do anything. XD

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TOPICS.MOVE.TOO.FAST.

too recap what I've read:
people going crazy over each match
creating INSANE theories for the rest of the contest.

funny, though at least.

And I'm very worried over Ultros for tomorrow. I'm beginning to expect bigger numbers from him, and not just from the previous results (since that woulnd't make much sense), but, he is from ff6, and I dunno, it could be interesting.
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he is from ff6

So is Kefka. What's your point?
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man, i would bet that if Sigma gets (or got last round) that pic that Ceej used in the banner, he would do a lot better than he did against Andross. well, maybe only a little better, but that is a very cool picture of him. much better than his grandpa mug shot.

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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:11:25 PM | Message Detail
And you are already well aware of where I stand on what will happen tomorrow, so don't read into my 'blah blah blah' as discrediting your position... but your sheer lunacy in regards to common sense are making me rethink my position...

Nah, I never assumed you were attacking me. It just takes a lot more than one match to shake my confidence, especially when we had no data on any member of Ocelot's four pack coming in. Like I said before, if Wily impresses tomorrow, then I'll start to worry. All I've said is that today's match isn't exactly a Link/Mega Man-like foreshadowing, but everyone is treating it like it is.

Now granted this is contest season and people are apt to go insane over anything, but I just can't help but look around and go o__O right about now.

And creative, make sure you archive that banner and slap it into your arrchive of the match pics <3

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This has me thinking, as vote totals always do. This match is way ahead of yesterday's, meaning that these characters combined are stronger, at least for the most part, than yesterday's were combined. Those two were talking Vyse/Laharl level of interest... and with them being much closer Imma say Sigma rates lower than Vyse while Andross might be quite close to Laharl. Anyway you look at it, Andross isn't close to Fox's actual strength as evidenced by yesterday. To add to that, he doesn't even look quite as strong as Fox did when SFF'd.

On the flip side these two are on their way to a better match than Bowser had. This leads me to believe Ocelot is definately stronger than Sigma and that Nemesis might give him a good solid fight. Not that I didn't think that way anyway, but these higher vote totals help. Stronger characters bring more votes. Not that these guys are that strong, but they are bringing votes.



i gotta say that i totally feel the same way as Chichiri does here; maybe even stronger than he does. while we definitely overestimsted Sigma yesterday, i feel that most people underestimated Nemesis today. why? because the vote totals are significantly higher than yesterday already. two weak characters will always have a lower match vote total than two mid-level characters, who will in turn always have a lower vote total than two stronger characters. that alone is proof that Ocelot and Nemesis are stronger than Sigma and Andross.

now, i've said from the day the bracket came out that Wily had a shot at Ocelot, but he would have to be quite a bit stronger than Sigma to do it. it's too bad Ultros could be anywhere from CATS-level joke fodder to a serious Final Fantasy competitor.it will be interesting to see if tomorrow's match vote totals can beat today's. if they do, and Wily pounds Ultros, than i will say that Ocelot looks like he's in trouble.

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