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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 115
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 3:30:42 AM | Message Detail
Looky-looky who just cracked 41%...

Revolver Ocelot 59% 4367
Nemesis 41% 3035
TOTAL VOTES 7402

...I'm curious to see what the vote-totals and day-vote are like here.
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From: A Hogasm IN POG FORM | Posted: 5/5/2005 3:35:04 AM | Message Detail
I'm starting to regret putting Ocelot over Dr. Wily.
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2005 3:42:04 AM | Message Detail
I think people are severly underestimating Nemesis. There is no need to fear having Ocelot over Wily or even Ocelot over Bowser at this point. Nemesis is about as villanous as it gets not to mention his big movie appearance and the fact that he comes straight from the series that just about invented survival horror. Expecting Ocelot to get 80% is just crazy. Let's say for a second that Ocelot were equal to Bowser which most people think he is considerably weaker anyways. If Ocelot were to equal Bowser and Nemesis were to be <= Pyramid, then and only then would Ocelot be getting that 80% mark. But obviously, Nemesis is considerably stronger than Pyramid Head. He is from a much more popular series, got more nominations than Pyramid Head (and wasn't even expected to make the tourney), and is considered by most to be a far better character. Not to bash Pyramid Head, but it is very understandable that Ocelot is "killing" Nemesis. Settle down kiddies.
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Spring2K5: 2/2 Next Pick: Ocelot
From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2005 3:44:03 AM | Message Detail
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 3:55:09 AM | Message Detail
I don't think there were many here who thought that Revolver would crack even 70%, so I'm not sure where the 80% figure comes from.
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From: rpgapzx | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:01:41 AM | Message Detail
Hyperbole
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Spring Contest 2k5 ScoreXPotential: 2/2 X 80/80
Next Pick: Ocelot ///// Next Vote: Ocelot
From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:02:41 AM | Message Detail
I don't think there were many here who thought that Revolver would crack even 70%, so I'm not sure where the 80% figure comes from.

A mixture of overestimating Ocelot, underestimating Nemesis and dementia :-)
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:04:47 AM | Message Detail
May be hyperbole, but he used it twice and explained the bound-to-be only way it'd happen and why it wouldn't happen. I figured he was bein' serious.
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From: cyko | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:19:00 AM | Message Detail
and Nemesis just keeps on climbing. he's up to 41.64% now. i knew Nemesis wouldn't just roll over and die, but i thought Ocelot would do a little better than this.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:24:43 AM | Message Detail
You'll never defeat NEMESIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS...

...okay, I'll stop.
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From: InfestedTerran9 | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:27:58 AM | Message Detail
CJayC is on the leaderboard , nice.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:48:17 AM | Message Detail
Oh my gosh... Ocelot is flopping even harder than Sigma, there. Wily actually has a great shot at him now... amazing.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot
From: Starion | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:49:13 AM | Message Detail
Unless Wily flops against Ultros as well. That should cause a lot of confusion.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/5/2005 4:51:57 AM | Message Detail
Hehe, Bowser's going to have it amazingly easy.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 02/02 - Matches: 02/02 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Ocelot - Tomorrow: Wily
From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2005 5:02:59 AM | Message Detail
i wish ulti would tell you guys you're judging these characters too soon since he's the only person anyone around here listens to other than cjayc.
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Spring2K5: 2/2 Next Pick: Ocelot
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/5/2005 5:22:31 AM | Message Detail
...

Whatever.

That's what I would've expected Ocelot to get out of Jill Valentine, not Nemesis!
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 02/02 - Matches: 02/02 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Ocelot - Tomorrow: Wily
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/5/2005 5:43:34 AM | Message Detail
Hah! So much for Ocelot being something incredible in this contest. Dr. Wily is going to give him a great match in the second round!

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:42:45 AM | Message Detail
That's what I would've expected Ocelot to get out of Jill Valentine, not Nemesis!

Bingo...in fact, I would have thought he'd keep Jill just under 42%. Hot damn. Dr. Wily could really make himself look like a threat tomorrow if he does worth a damn at all. This also makes Wesker look pretty good right now.
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:43:49 AM | Message Detail
I agree that this definately makes Wesker look good.

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Spring2K5: 2/2 Next Pick: Ocelot
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:48:48 AM | Message Detail
For the sake of excitement, I hope Wesker beats Luca by about 3% more than Kefka'd be expected to, then see to it that Kefka gets an actual sprite of him against Wesker.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:53:34 AM | Message Detail
Also, by pure estimation of glancing at the numbers, so far today's match is getting a Bowser/PH-like turn-out instead of the Sigma/Andross treatment. So far so good.....
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:54:04 AM | Message Detail
I saw Ocelot to be around Luigi/KOS-MOS. Where did you see him around?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 6:55:51 AM | Message Detail
I thought he was gonna be dead-on with Knuckles.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:00:15 AM | Message Detail
Ocelot is really stinkin' it up here. Nemesis is surely more popular than Pyramid Head, but surely it can't be by a huge amount. But if Sigma's performance was any indication of Wily's strength, then Ocelot shouldn't have much trouble with him.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:00:17 AM | Message Detail
Somewhere just a notch below Dante. About Knuckles.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 02/02 - Matches: 02/02 - Rank: 00001/24748 - Today: Ocelot - Tomorrow: Wily
From: nadnerb | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:01:59 AM | Message Detail
yeah
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:03:30 AM | Message Detail
Nemesis would be better off compared to Jill than PH.

You know, this makes me ask: let's assume Revolver's still pretty strong here...could this possibly make Claire Redfield legit from 2k2? Maybe not anymore, but back in 2k2, she certainly had reason to brag when she got about 45% on Tidus...maybe that's not a fluke anymore?
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From: Tai | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:34:44 AM | Message Detail
Ocelot could very well fall towards 53% the same way Sigma did.

Ocelot's not increasing his lead a whole lot, if at all. At some point of the match, he might have lost a chunk of votes, like Sigma did. Eventually, has the total votes increase, Ocelot might be down to as low as 53%...maybe lower..but we'll see.
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From: BeTheMan | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:41:55 AM | Message Detail
While I do think that Bowser will win the division, I'm not ready to call it a cakewalk...let's see what happens tomorrow.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/5/2005 7:55:20 AM | Message Detail
Unless I screwed up the math, in order for Ocelot to be equal to Bowser, Nemesis has to be CONSIDERABLY stronger than Jill... Jill would get 35% on Bowser.

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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 5/5/2005 8:01:09 AM | Message Detail
Okay, so if anyone thinks that Nemesis can legitimately rank 4% ahead of Jill in the 2K4 stats or be equal to Jill in 2K3, then Ocelot has a chance to beat Bowser.

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From: Forceful Dragon | Posted: 5/5/2005 8:34:41 AM | Message Detail
Here's a question: Why is it that few people seem to think Ghaleon can beat Vergil?

Sure ghaleon is lesser known but since when has that been the crucial determinant in these battles? Particularly with the poll having been moved down, less in casual view than it once was.


Super Mario RPG was less played (though not by as much I would say...) but it managed to beat SFII.

Even more so though, Xenogears beat Pokemon Gold/Silver Crystal with nearly 58%.

It just seems like everyone put vergil in their bracket based on popularity >_> (well and maybe some because they dont know who Ghaleon is). I dont know why he should be counted out so soon.

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From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/5/2005 8:47:49 AM | Message Detail
Well, this is making me wish I would have kept Wesker over Kefka. Most thought I was crazy when I suggested it, but now it doesn't look half bad. I'd change it now if I could, but for now I'll just have to hope Kefka pulls it out. On the plus side though, if Wesker wins I doubt we'll see a perfect bracket.

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From: smitelf | Posted: 5/5/2005 8:55:15 AM | Message Detail
Sure ghaleon is lesser known but since when has that been the crucial determinant in these battles? Particularly with the poll having been moved down, less in casual view than it once was.

I think the casuals have figured out where the poll is by now. Still wouldn't help Ghaleon against Vergil, whose game is new and popular and who looks pretty damn cool.

Super Mario RPG was less played (though not by as much I would say...) but it managed to beat SFII.

It also has the words "Mario" and "RPG" in it. Besides, SMRPG was still probably played by plenty of people in this site's demographic.

Even more so though, Xenogears beat Pokemon Gold/Silver Crystal with nearly 58%.

Xenogears is made by Square, sadly, and Pokemon is neither new nor cool.

It just seems like everyone put vergil in their bracket based on popularity >_> (well and maybe some because they dont know who Ghaleon is).

Yes, that would be Ghaleon's problem: he's not well-known enough to beat Vergil.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:08:46 AM | Message Detail
My pre-contest guesses:
Ocelot 25.00 (Donkey Kong)
Nemesis 14.00 (Tina Armstrong)

Which leads to a 72% victory for Ocelot...Looks like I was way off. If my Ocelot guess is right, Nemmy is around 22% (Viewtiful Joe), or if my Nemmy guess is right, Ocelot is around 16% (PaRappa, ouch). Obviously I'm off on both counts, the question is by how much...I really wanna see how Wily does on Ultros tomorrow, because I guessed Wily would just under Kefka (22% for Wily), and I'd expect Kefka to beat Nemesis worse than this...
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:16:44 AM | Message Detail
Hah! So much for Ocelot being something incredible in this contest. Dr. Wily is going to give him a great match in the second round!

Yeah, let's see you say that when he doesn't even break 60% on Ultros.

Honestly, people are making a bit too much out of this, methinks. I still say that Jill's spot in the stats is off. I mean, honestly, how can she go from beating the crap out of Bomberman to being on his level in just two years? It makes no sense.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:21:09 AM | Message Detail
There's no reason for Nemmy to be anywhere near Jill, though. He's in one of the least popular REs and all he does is chase Jill around.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:23:26 AM | Message Detail
Well, he does star in the RE movie...

And I didn't say he had to be anywhere near Jill. I would still expect him to be stronger than Tina Armstrong, personally.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:24:24 AM | Message Detail
Without reading a word of this topic, I'm going to take a wild guess and say that it's filled with assumptions that Wily has a chance to beat Ocelot. Let's have a look see.

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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:29:06 AM | Message Detail
Hypothesis: All of the new characters are so close to fodder, that none of them would hammer any of them.

Reason for hypothesis: The past two matches.

Further expected evidence: If tomorrow's match is less than 55% or so; Kuja/MH is less than 55% or so; Sin/Robotnik is less than 55% or so; and all new characters get beat 65%+ by Bowser/Ganondorf; 70%+ by Sephiroth.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:30:28 AM | Message Detail
As of the 9:25 mark, this match has 26342 votes.

To compare, Bowser-Pyramid Head had 25915 votes, and Sigma-Andross had 22625 votes at the same time.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:33:17 AM | Message Detail
I think Horatio's pick of Luca/Wesker being the match of the contest might just hold some merit. With every new character stinking it up, Luca has a chance, since at least some people recognize him from the Summer.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:33:56 AM | Message Detail
Wow.

I'd be flat-out shocked if Wily beat Ocelot. Shocked, I say. Why don't we wait until tomorrow before drawing any crazy conclusions? If Wily beats down Ultros 70-30, then yeah, I'll concede that he has a chance to win.

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:35:03 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but Nemmy has to be stronger than Luca for Ocelot to be anything at all, and it would be absurd for Nemmy to be stronger than Wesker. This match should cause much more worry for Kekfa/Wesker than Wesker/Luca.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:35:23 AM | Message Detail
I think Horatio's pick of Luca/Wesker being the match of the contest might just hold some merit. With every new character stinking it up, Luca has a chance, since at least some people recognize him from the Summer.

Considering there's little doubt that Wesker is stronger than Nemesis, I'd say Luca has no chance. Honestly, would you see him doing this well against Ocelot?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:36:46 AM | Message Detail
Speaking of that, this match only helps Wesker and Vergil.

Super Mario RPG was less played (though not by as much I would say...) but it managed to beat SFII.

Even more so though, Xenogears beat Pokemon Gold/Silver Crystal with nearly 58%.


There both Square RPGs. After Square, there is a huge dropoff until you reach a couple of popular titles, then a huge dropoff until you reach everything else. If Ghaleon so much as gives Vergil a fight, I'd be shocked.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:38:47 AM | Message Detail
Not to mention, Pokemon gets anti-voted to high heaven. Pikachu struggled to be PaRappa the Rapper, for goodness sake.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:39:38 AM | Message Detail
Hm...a villain from a relatively new game with decent sales bombing...looks like Ocelot and Vergil have more in common with Nemesis and Vergil.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:39:42 AM | Message Detail
Struggled to BEAT, that should say.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/5/2005 9:40:57 AM | Message Detail
Ocelot will only "bomb" if he fails to beat Dr. Wily.
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