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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 115
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 3:11:36 PM | Message Detail
Back up to one topic per day, it seems =p



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm



*Match Pictures*

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Dranze | Posted: 5/4/2005 3:12:54 PM | Message Detail
FIRST POST! W00t! I'M WINNAR!
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Shut up, make me a sandwich. That is all.
From: rpgapzx | Posted: 5/4/2005 3:13:27 PM | Message Detail
Ta.

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Spring Contest 2k5 ScoreXPotential: 1/1 X 80/80
Next Pick: Sigma ///// Next Vote: Sigma
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 3:13:53 PM | Message Detail
Sigma can never defeat ANDROSS!!!
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/4/2005 3:14:07 PM | Message Detail
Back to the insaneness.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”
From: Aprosenf | Posted: 5/4/2005 5:21:59 PM | Message Detail
Guten tag.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 5:25:17 PM | Message Detail
Don't tease the octopus, kids!
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: Undeniable | Posted: 5/4/2005 5:25:58 PM | Message Detail
...ANDROSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! Make it CLOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSERRRRRR!
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"I've had anal before, and I just kinda layed there and watched tv while he had his fun." - Shadow Ryoko
From: cyko | Posted: 5/4/2005 5:30:43 PM | Message Detail
go Nemesis!!

>_>


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VOTE FOR ULTROS!!! G'FHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 5/4/2005 5:35:56 PM | Message Detail
With all this talk about Robotnik being weak, since for some reason Sigma has a lot to do with the Sonic series...ya really lost me there...what was my question?

Oh yes. Is my pick of Robotnik over Kuja going to kill my bracket?
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"From now on, anyone that makes fun of me, I'll kill them, just like that!"
"Eddie, have you gone nuts?"
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 5:37:33 PM | Message Detail
I don't think so, but, this contest just stays interesting, heh.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:28:41 PM | Message Detail
Don't tease the octopus, kids!

Yeah, just flat out beat the crap out of him and serve him for dinner.

About time for this, by the way.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:34:18 PM | Message Detail
Mmm Octopus...

And I fail to see how someone can gain uber confidence in Robotnik/Sin from today, but I guess that is what Tai is good for.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:43:46 PM | Message Detail
HAND GESTURE 500'D
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:44:20 PM | Message Detail
Exactly, look at Squall.

I'm just going to pretend you misspelled Sephiroth.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:45:11 PM | Message Detail
No, no I didn't misspell anything. I just figured you of all people would thoroughly enjoy the comment =)

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:46:03 PM | Message Detail
No, no I didn't misspell anything. I just figured you of all people would thoroughly enjoy the comment =)

Oh, so it was a joke. I figured it was either a typo or a joke.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:46:51 PM | Message Detail
from the stunt I pulled at GFA awhile back (heh...heh), I assume MC got about 1,300 votes from his link.

When I referenced to my GFA-stunt in the last topic, it referred to back in March (I think) when www.GameFAQsASCII.com was having their own character contest. Master Chief had already been put out by Bowser in the second round, but Arbiter somehow beat Tidus in a close one and Zero about 60-40 to get to face Mega Man in the third round...

...so, I talk to halo.bungie.org...

"March 5, 2005

Arbiter vs Mega Man
Over at GameFAQsASCII.com, there's a Character Battle - Arbiter vs Mega Man. Only 75 people have voted at this point - wouldn't take much to sway this one. Thanks, Harrison. (I gotta say, I really don't understand the point of polls like this; I'm posting this one because we got a half-dozen emails about it, and I want them to stop. In fact, I think I'll take this opportunity to lay down new HBO policy - after this one, we won't be mentioning Character Battle-type polls any more here. So go vote in this one; it's the last one we'll cover.) (Louis Wu 11:36:34 UTC)"


...I got a link to the site that match which lasted for about half the day so we could get an idea of how MC was helped, then Arbiter got DQ'd. I got afew numbers saved before the match ended though...

General:
79.5 - 1st round average
86.7 - 2nd round average
430 - 3rd round thus far
107.5 - 3rd round average thus far
81.9 - 1st-2nd average
90.9 - 2nd-3rd (thus far) average
83.9 - 1st-3rd (thus far) average
84.5 - Mega Man's average turn-out
56.5 0 Mega Man's average votes
103.5 - Arbiter's average turn-out
59.0 - Arbiter's average votes

Ranges:
42 - 1st round minimum
170 - 1st round maximum
67 - 2nd round minimum
125 - 2nd round maximum
76 - 3rd round maximum so far
140 - 3rd round maximum so far

The match (before taken down):
675 - Arbiter/Mega Man's vote-total
125 - Mega Man's vote total
550 - Arbiter's vote-total
18-60 - Arbiter/Mega Man's scores before the link


...again, the link was up for about half the match, so I doubled 600 and added afew more (due to Arbiter not being as strong/appealing as Master Chief and Mega Man being stronger/more appealing than Frog).
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: creativename | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:53:19 PM | Message Detail
Hey...that's some good data.

Which half of the day though? Needless to say traffic is distributed very unevenly across the day.
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www.SC2K5.com
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:55:09 PM | Message Detail
I think it was taken down about 1:00 PM EST...not very sure, but it was around the half-way mark.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:56:37 PM | Message Detail
Hey HaRRicH, how exactly do you read that traffic chart you posted in the last topic?

*feels stupid*
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I'm like a mentally insane girl who keeps running back to her abusive boyfriend. ~ Mars
ZSB [aX]
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:03:44 PM | Message Detail
From the way I understand that site, the higher bar is the more popular one (obviously...and that's the important thing to know). However, I think the numbers on the side say how high a site is on the list of the most popular sites at that time...

http://www.alexa.com/site/site_stats/signup?site_url=www.gamefaqs.com
&range=1m&widget=g&style=c&submitted=true&mode=graph&range=3m&amzn_id=

...like there, GameFAQs is about #475 in the websites with the most hits today/yesterday, whichever day it is. So I use that to compare it to the other sites, and the Mega Man and Halo sites are ranked pretty close to one-another.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Tai | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:06:13 PM | Message Detail
And I fail to see how someone can gain uber confidence in Robotnik/Sin from today, but I guess that is what Tai is good for.


Look, Sin will win now because Sigma's weak performance against Andross helps Ultros. If Ultros does well against Dr. Wily, then Sin has a chance against Robotnik.

The fact that a big Megaman site is giving Sigma votes is making him overperform slightly, which harms Dr. Wily a lot. The fact that despite all that, that Sigma only has about 53% of the vote doesn't help matters for the Megaman crew either.

But, that's just me. And, we'll see if Dr. Wily can beat Ultros into a bloody pulp or not.
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PETITION: Ability to preview contests to moderators before posting it. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=19643565 (147 Signs!)
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:07:26 PM | Message Detail
Look, Sin will win now because Sigma's weak performance against Andross helps Ultros.

How does any of that relate to Sin?

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:08:08 PM | Message Detail
Dr. Wily's gettin' the link, too. For those with the "Sigma means Robotnik's looking bad" line of thought though, well, they now have a lil' more room to think that, but it's still not exactly right.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:24:39 PM | Message Detail
Wait, hold on...how long has that update on http://planet-megaman.com/ been up? It says 8:01 PM...so what time did it get put up GameFAQs-time?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:28:21 PM | Message Detail
Dr. Wily will be overperforming. Oh man, this is getting better and better for Sin.

Heh. I can't say I like you all that much, but it's funny to be on your side of a debate.

And yeah, Robutt is in for a world of hurt.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: cyko | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:32:24 PM | Message Detail
hmph. Sigma is actually pulling away a bit. maybe that link is helping him a bit, he's back up to 53.04% and closing in on a 4000 vote lead. here's hoping Nemesis doesn't give me a similar surprise tomorrow.

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VOTE FOR ULTROS!!! G'FHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:33:32 PM | Message Detail
I can't see any reason why Nemesis would. I'm 99.5% sure there's no chance that he'll be stronger than Jill Valentine, and that leaves a lot of room for Ocelot to fall in between Liquid and her.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:33:44 PM | Message Detail
To paraphrase myself from a topic you made about a week ago, Tai, you might be right, but your logic's flawed to the point that Michael Moore has Kerry's permission to spit in your face.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: cyko | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:35:49 PM | Message Detail
i wholeheartedly agree with you, Leon, but unfortunately we didn't see any reason why Andross would stand up to Sigma today.

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VOTE FOR ULTROS!!! G'FHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:36:11 PM | Message Detail
If this is evidence of people not caring about uninspired villains like Sigma, I can't see how this can possibly look good for Sin.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:37:48 PM | Message Detail
Well, we had a ceiling for Andross, but we didn't have a floor for Sigma. We certainly weren't expecting it, but it wasn't impossible.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:39:14 PM | Message Detail
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 11:36:11 PM | Message Detail
If this is evidence of people not caring about uninspired villains like Sigma, I can't see how this can possibly look good for Sin.


It depends on how Wily performs in two days. If he chokes (and he could very well come close to losing), I think Robutt is in a world of hurt.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: George Romero | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:40:34 PM | Message Detail
I have a hunch, which is based off of nothing, that Robotnik is extremely weak.
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Land of the Dead - June 24, 2005
*is M410123*
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:42:39 PM | Message Detail
Well, for the most part, hunches and reasonable guesses are all we have to go by, so welcome to the club.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:43:44 PM | Message Detail
Looks like the night vote is going Sigma's way. He's almost up to a 4000 vote lead now.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:47:49 PM | Message Detail
Sigma's starting to increase his lead and percentage now. Good deal.



And while Robotnik should be weak, Sin is nothing to talk about either. If you want someone not a damn soul cares about, look no further than Sin.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:48:45 PM | Message Detail
Actually, my first thought is Mother Brain, not Sin. The giant whale at least had some awesome moments in FFX, much like Lavos.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:48:52 PM | Message Detail
I was hopin' Andross would finish with 47%, but it doesn't look like it'll happen.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:52:13 PM | Message Detail
Heh, Servbot's very possibly stronger than Sigma. Funny stuff.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:52:18 PM | Message Detail
I'm still not certian that this match has anything to do with any other match. Frankly I never thought that Sigma would be much to speak and certainly wouldn't touch Wily, and nothing has changed.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:52:37 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr05/b03.jpg

I would say it's fairly obvious that Nemesis owns the picture advantage.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”
From: therealmnm | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:53:06 PM | Message Detail
I don't agree with the argument for Sin at all.... Sonic fans have never abandoned their own outside of maybe Sonic vs. Cloud. I don't see why you think they would all of a sudden right off Robotnik. He's as much of a character to the series as everyone else. Even if he is weaker than Tails, I don't see the Sonic fanbase letting there be that much of a dropoff.

Square fans do not necessarily always support their own.... Otherwise, there's no way a Square backed Yuna loses to Knuckles by 10000+ votes. If they don't back Yuna, why would they back Sin? Even IF Robotnik isn't a magnet of popularity... everybody KNOWS who he is and I would think that he would get the benefit of doubt unless the voter is a HARDCORE Final Fantasy X fan. I will go out on a limb and say I don't even think Sin will do better than Ultros. A Chocobo or Moogle would do better than Sin....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:53:17 PM | Message Detail
I care about Sin. He's one of the most well-designed villains ever.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:53:23 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, Nemesis looks bad as hell in that pic.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:54:03 PM | Message Detail
I would say it's fairly obvious that Nemesis owns the picture advantage.

About as obvious as a 70/30 win for Sigma. You just can't beat classic Shalashaska, and Nemesis is just...hideous.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:55:32 PM | Message Detail
I will go out on a limb and say I don't even think Sin will do better than Ultros.

Let's hope that limb's as thick as the tree-trunk it's stemmin' from. Very unlikely, but I'd like it if that were the case.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:55:35 PM | Message Detail
I care about Sin. He's one of the most well-designed villains ever.

You also think Magus is a villain and/or he's the deepest character ever. And while you may care about Sin - the same way Slow cares about Robotnik - I doubt the masses care. I cannot see how you could possibly make an argument, outside of Sin is from FF, over Robotnik. And your comparisons between Sigma, Wily, and Robotnik make little to no sense.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”
From: creativename | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:56:27 PM | Message Detail
Ocelot looks pretty good there. Very dignified.
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