Yeah; Bowser and Dr. Wily would get my votes in most situations, but lord knows neither of them are the most vile villains around.
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How can you be a huge Mega Man fan and not know who Sigma is?

I love Mega Man from MMAC and I'll vote for Zero based on his relationship to MM and his looks, but... I had no idea who Sigma is. And I wouldn't vote for Dr. Wily. >_>
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No one coming from Nintendo though, that's a guaran-damn-tee. The closest anyone could come is Ganondorf.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot

Anyone have a projection for this match's vote totals? The current total seems low.

As for Sigma, he spent too much time in the background in the MMX games.
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*shrugs* Guessing 69,000. Not sure though...but for what it's worth, Vyse/Laharl was the only match that didn't reach 70,000 last year in the Summer Contest.
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How about the prospect of Lavos, freaking LAVOS, being somewhere around Kefka?

That would be extremely kick ass.

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Sigma just now broke 2,900, by the way.
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Did I just hear anyone say Lavos being strong would be a GOOD thing?

Okay, so I'm not voting against him at all in this contest, but that's only because I don't care for one of his opponents and despise the other.
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Yes, that would be me. And I would love for Lavos to be strong in this contest. Hell, I'd have him killing Liquid Snake if I had my way.

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So would I. Terrible thing is, Lavos is my "favorite" in his division. So needless to say, I'd have Bowser assrape him.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot

No stats yet... come back Wednesday!

Why am I not really surprised?
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So would I. Terrible thing is, Lavos is my "favorite" in his division. So needless to say, I'd have Bowser assrape him.

A: The horrible mental images.

B: Heh, I love Lavos. I hope he challenges Liquid.

Was Andross in Starfox Assault?
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Nope; at the very beginning, there's an annoying-ass monkey (Oolinkar or some silly name) in the first level who makes mention that Andross was his uncle...but other than that, nothing.
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Andrew Oikonny. He was a part of Wolf's team in SF64.

UNCLE AAAAAAANDROOOOOOOSS!!!
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot

Just noticed that Sigma has broken 3,000 votes on Andross now...but Andross is about to break 47%, too.
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I think there would be more correlation in strength between Robotnik and Andross than Robotnik and Sigma.

Ulti:
I just think that Wily is stronger than Robutt, and if Wily bombs, so will Robutt. We'll see what happens.

Like I said before, I agree with this. But as I said before, I would expect Robotnik to be stronger than Wily.

Also, I'm not sure how relevant Wily's % against Ultros will be...I don't think Ultros will be a true jobber.

Now, I know logic like this hasn't worked well in the past, but: can Ultros really be below HK-47?


Ulti:
But this is GameFAQs, where the Mega Man series is far more popular than the Sonic series.

I don't know about this at all.


Slowflake:
Either way, CT and FF6 are about equal, right? How about the prospect of Lavos, freaking LAVOS, being somewhere around Kefka?

I could see that.


RPGuy96:
I love Ultros, but he's a joke, nothing more.

Oh come on man. Ultros rules.

I think what you meant to say was: "Ultros makes jokes." Right? ;)


FastFalcon:
Can you explain the relationship here? or someone else? I can understand the wily/sigma relationship (which is conjecture, but seems valid) but extension to Ultros? Because he's a joke villain? I'm hoping there's more to it.

The idea is that the better Ultros does, the worse Wily will do; and Wily and Robotnik should be correlated. However, I believe Andross is correlated to Robotnik too. And Robotnik should certainly be more popular than Andross.


FastFalcon:
I think these "surprising results" are going to highlight a point I've said a few times. This is not the Summer Contest. This is a villain's contest. I don't know how safe/reliable it is to use past results to justify these new matches. It's a different contest, and I bet it won't play out as entirely expected.

Oh no, that's not true at all. The problem is that we don't have past results for the vast majority of competitors.
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I could see that.

So could I. The problem lies in that there's something seriously wrong if it happens.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot

Sigma 53% 26716
Andross 47% 23687
TOTAL VOTES 50403

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This is a true sign of me not playing Star Fox 64 in years; I don't remember Oikonny from it, even after you mention him being a part of Star Wolf. I knew there was somebody missing besides Pigma, but I didn't remember Oikonny's annoyin' ass was in it. Shame on me.
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Now, I know logic like this hasn't worked well in the past, but: can Ultros really be below HK-47?

Can Kefka really be below Yuna?

Besides, HK is at least as cool as Ultros.
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So could I. The problem lies in that there's something seriously wrong if it happens.

Again, it'd be kick ass. =)

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So could I. The problem lies in that there's something seriously wrong if it happens.

Why? Chrono Trigger basically owns half this site, and Lavos is very prominent in it. He dominates discussion for a huge part of the game--just not the beginning, which is his main problem.

Also, he happens to be a "thing", rather than a person. I'm pretty sure "things" have less appeal than people to voters.

***Minor Chrono Trigger SPOILERS below***

The scenes that you see of him coming up in 1999 on the computer screens are some of the most memorable I've experienced in a video game.

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Wolf, Pigma, Leon, Andrew. That's the original Star Wolf team.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot

UNCLE AAAAAAANDROOOOOOOSS!!!

I don't remember Oikonny, but I do remember this.
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Dude, it's f'n LAVOS. If a "thing", as you say, is allowed to get anywhere near a villain that gets as much praise as Kefka gets... you can guess where I'm going. Yeah, I'm biased, sue me.
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Andrew was always the worst of the team at that.

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Andross is making this much closer than I expected, I wonder if Star Wolf could beat Sigma? Heck, I wonder why Star Wolf isn't in this contest instead, actually.

I'm thinking Star Wolf could make up the 3% and then some.
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Kefka doesn't deserve his praise to begin with. He and Sephiroth can go live in their suckiness together for all I care.


Lavos > > > Kefka.

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Yeah; I remembered there being four in SF64, and I knew Pigma was out and panther-boy was in...I vaguely remember Andrew I think; did he happen to go by that in SF64 instead of Oikonny?
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Besides, HK is at least as cool as Ultros.

Whoa whoa whoa now, hold on there buddy. I've never played KotOR, but "as cool as Ultros" is a heavy statement to make. Such blasphemy is not to be said lightly.
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Well, Ultros isn't very cool to begin with. . .

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

Oh no, that's not true at all. The problem is that we don't have past results for the vast majority of competitors.

Exactly. Only 7 of these contenders have statistics for us to go off of. The #1 seeds, Liquid, Luca, and CATS each have been in the Summer contest and have stats to go off of while the other 25/32 contenders are new and give us nothing to go off of. This will most definatly be a good (mostly unpredictable) contest...in my opinion.
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I don't remember Oikonny, but I do remember this.

Me too. I think Star Wolf would have been a friendly rival though, thus not eligible.
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Oh boy, here's me with my usual comment on the match.

Poor numbers from Sigma today. Now I didn't go through all the pages, but do you think most overestimated Sigma, or underestimated Andross?

Either way, any possible chance of a Sigma over Bowser upset is gone.
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Sigma vs. Andross - Bracket: Sigma - Vote: Andross (1/1)

Demand: Play KotOR, meatbag.
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Definitely over-estimated Sigma. No question...Andross may be a lil' under-estimated too, but for now that's nowhere in comparison to the surprise Sigma's leaving us with right now.
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Harrich:
I think Star Wolf would have been a friendly rival though, thus not eligible.

I don't recall the plot that well, but why would he have been a friendly rival? Didn't he work for Andross?

And I'm not sure about Star Wolf being stronger than Andross. Certainly possible, but he wasn't nearly as prominent in the games as Andross.


Master Moltar:
Now I didn't go through all the pages, but do you think most overestimated Sigma, or underestimated Andross?

The consensus is solidly on the side of Sigma being overestimated.
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Having played both and having completed neither, I'll vote Ultros over HK-47 most of the time.
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I don't recall the plot that well, but why would he have been a friendly rival? Didn't he work for Andross?

Things got a little different in SF:A.

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Demand: Play KotOR, meatbag.

It actually is #1 on my "games to play" list. Hopefully I'll play it this summer.
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That's what I thought...

Not looking good for Wily...>.>
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Wolf was a villain through all of SF64, making him eligible.

And yes, Oikonny went by his first name, Andrew, in SF64.
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Aight then, no wonder why I didn't remember him, heh. I didn't think Star Wolf was really on anybody's side, good or bad, and just wanted to fight with you in SF64...in SF:Ass though, they 'bout made me mad with the fact they helped each other as much as they did, heh.
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Things got a little different in SF:A.

True, but in SF64 there's no way you could call him a "friendly rival". In SF64 Star Wolf was kinda more prominent in the game, I'd say, and there's no debate that he certainly was in SF:Assault.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Dr. Wily do even worse than Sigma. The last original series Mega Man game was released in 1998, and that was in Japan only.
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Oh, and I don't understand Ulti's comparison between Sigma and Robotnik. They're completely unrelated.
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There's a common suspicion shared by many that Sigma > Wily >or= Robotnik and that Sin > Ultros. It's not entirely right, but that's his reasoning for it.
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The last original series Mega Man game was released in 1998, and that was in Japan only.

Mega Man and bass came to GBA 2 years ago.
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The last original series Mega Man game was released in 1998, and that was in Japan only.

It got rereleased on the GBA and made it to America/Europe in 2003.
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