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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 114
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/4/2005 6:57:35 AM | Message Detail
Yes, yes we were.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:04:14 AM | Message Detail
Well yes, considering Fox bombing in two contests, a prediction of 65-35 doesn't seem so bad.

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:05:54 AM | Message Detail
I thought it would be a blowout. But who knows, this may be more Andross's strength than Sigma sucking it up....

Ahhhh, who am I kidding....
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:10:27 AM | Message Detail
I imagine this has more to do with Sigma being a piece of crap than Andross being strong.

Because, to be quite honest, I had never heard of Sigma until last year's contest, when everyone was talking about voting him in and whatnot, despite having played several of the MMX games.

He's just not a well-known character.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:17:22 AM | Message Detail
If you've played several of the Mega Man X games and don't know who Sigma is... you must not have been very good. <_<
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:26:54 AM | Message Detail
What... the... ****?

I thought Sigma would be stronger (or Andross weaker) than this.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:27:27 AM | Message Detail
Chrono Trigger gets finished today whether it likes it or not :-)

Chrono Trigger got finished today. Meh. Will review it later, I'm off to play pool.
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Jon Thomson - 1/1, tomorrow: Sigma
Ridley's Road to Victory - Round 1 vs. (7) Diablo
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:49:29 AM | Message Detail
This is shocking to me....and defies my column I typed last night...bunch of Andross votin' apes!

Dr. W is the greatest Mega Man nemesis other than Bubble Man, so he will beat Ulty a bit more comfortably than this Sigma victory over Andross...

Tonight...I speak on Nemesis and Ocelot :) Look for it!

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SP2K Dream Final: Dr. Wily vs Kefka
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From: Mr Lasastryke | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:51:16 AM | Message Detail
If a monkey can hang with the main villain of the X series, I think FFX's main villain is more than capable enough of holding his own.

Don't hate him because he's an ape. DK's an ape too. Apes are living creatures as well! >:(

And don't underestimate the Ocelot fanboys. I spent most of the day on this board arguing with a guy who was absolutely convinced that Ocelot was going to win the whole thing. >_>
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"So does Zelda and she isn't a monster in these contests."
- Tatsumaki Senpuu, on the "OMG DIABLO'S NAME IS IN THE TITLE" argument
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/4/2005 7:51:53 AM | Message Detail
He he he, easily the best part of today's column.

Thanks buddy! :)
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SP2K Dream Final: Dr. Wily vs Kefka
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:05:59 AM | Message Detail
I also am very concerned now regarding the Wily/Robotnik picks. Is this Sigma sucking? Is this Nintendrones being loyal? We already know Square cannot suck, so if this is a product of a loyal fanbase merely carrying a less-than-stellar character, I do believe Wily may not break 55%, and more importantly, Sin may win.

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From: Mr Lasastryke | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:17:04 AM | Message Detail
We already know Square cannot suck

*cough* Kefka *cough*
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"So does Zelda and she isn't a monster in these contests."
- Tatsumaki Senpuu, on the "OMG DIABLO'S NAME IS IN THE TITLE" argument
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:30:13 AM | Message Detail
Andross really can't be near Fox, and my best guess for Fox is only about 22% on Link, so this is definitely more Sigma sucking than Andross being strong. I figure that Andross probably wouldn't get more than 35% on Fox, which would stick him around 16% on the XS. That puts Sigma currently around 18%, about a percent short of the 19% (28% on Zero) that I thought Sigma would be. So if my Andross prediction is more or less correct, I'll have overestimated PH and Andross by a percent each. Not bad.

And both Square and Nintendo can indeed suck, and we shall see evidence of them sucking soon enough in Ultros and Giygas. Andross and Sin won't be quite as bad, but they're certainly not anything special.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:31:56 AM | Message Detail
If by sucking in your coughing, you mean 'favorite for the Final Four' then sure, Kefka sucks. I believe Ramza woulda been a better route to go, personally, but Kefka is more a disappointment that a measure of sucktitude.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:33:51 AM | Message Detail
Kefka doesn't suck. He went from struggling with Pac Man in 2003 to being projected to score about 63% on him. We have yet to see Kefka's potential, but it'll show up in this contest.

From the beginning, I've felt that Wily would be lucky to get past Ultros, and that Robutt is weaker than Wily, possibly even around Wily's level. And since Sin >>> Ultros while Wily is likely = Robutt, Robutt has his hands full come his match with Sin. The closer Ultros gets to Wily, the more likely it is that Robutt is going to get creamed.

I'm not convinced that Wily will beat Ultros, either. Wily would have all kinds of problems beating Sigma in a match, and I wouldn't count Ultros out against Andross by any means. We're going to have a very interesting match in a couple of days, and don't be surprised at all if Ultros somehow pulls it out. I have Wily winning, but Ultros beating him wouldn't shock me.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:35:33 AM | Message Detail
Oh and if you'll excuse me, I have an Ocarina of Time review to rewrite. I have newfound respect for that game after playing through the majority of Devil May Cry and its joke of a camera/lock-on/battle system.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:39:45 AM | Message Detail
I don't know how you can say that Wily and Robotnik are going to be so weak when their heroes are so strong, and also manage to say that Sin and Vergil are going to be (relatively) strong solely because their heroes are strong.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:44:41 AM | Message Detail
I never said that Sin and Vergil would be anything to be in awe of; they're both weak bastards, but I feel their matches will come down to whose fanbase cares less.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: therealmnm | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:46:04 AM | Message Detail
If Sin beats Robotnik... all it does is comfirms that Squareheads would support ANYTHING... even Guard Scorpion. I'd then proceed to puke....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:49:53 AM | Message Detail
Now that it's been confirmed as head shots for the first round, I'm a little bit worried about Ghaleon. I have Vergil winning, but I just don't know now. I can I'll be happy either way though. If Ghaleon loses, I keep my bracket perfect. If he wins, then the better villian moves on. I also feel a lot better about a Diablo victory because of the picture style.

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:51:45 AM | Message Detail
Well, close-ups do Ridley justice more as well, so I dunno... this should be one arse pic though.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:52:31 AM | Message Detail
I don't get the support for Ghaleon at all. Matches that feature two characters who few people know/care about almost always turn into a franchise voting affair, and in this case, it's Devil May Cry vs Lunar. I fail to see the issue.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:55:04 AM | Message Detail
All the support for Ghaleon? There's like three of us, and tnote even changed his bracket to Vergil at the last minute.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 8:59:59 AM | Message Detail
Wow, turned out this isn't just a night-vote ordeal. Sigma is going to have his ass handed to him on a hot-plate when he faces Bowser. Sigma should have been getting 65%-70%, but he's choking instead.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:01:13 AM | Message Detail
I fear for Wily.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:01:39 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and should this be a sign of strength due to Nintendo fans being loyal, I feel better about Ridley. I don't think that's the case here though.....
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:02:11 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I guess I'm letting my bias for him blind reality. Ghaleon will probably lose like 58-42. I know a lot of people who are RPG fans (or at least say so) and they've never played the Lunar games. That doesn't speak well for Ghaleon.

On a side note, I noticed that you had Bison moving quite far in the contest Ulti. I was going to put him winning the division, but my brother told me I was absolutely crazy to think he'd make it that far. If he does, I am so going to punch him in the face. :P

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:02:44 AM | Message Detail
I fear for Wily too, but I think he'll still win. This reassures my prediction he's losing to Revolver though, even though Revolver make choke hard too; the board's done nothing but hype him since MGS3.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:04:01 AM | Message Detail
Bison winning that division wouldn't surprise me in the least, and I'd love to see it happen. I just picked Kefka to beat him because I highly doubt that Bison is on the level of Ken or Sub Zero; he would have to perform significantly better than them to be able to take down Kefka, which I highly doubt will happen.

I think Kefka sort of wins his division by default. That division is nothing but a bunch of rats.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:04:36 AM | Message Detail
I don't think you need to worry about Wily too much. I only played a few of the older Megaman games and I have NO idea who Sigma is. Wily on the other hand, I knew right away. I think that Wily is much stronger than Sigma. I also agreed with you on Sin over Eggman.

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:05:38 AM | Message Detail
The kiddies will make Ghaleon win.

Ghaleon looks like an anime version of Sephiroth unless CjayC gives him a horrible picture.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:05:46 AM | Message Detail
You mean Fatman. Did you know that Robutt made a cameo appearence in Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty?

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Crono801 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:06:49 AM | Message Detail
Even if Ghaleon wins, I won't be upset for my bracket, because the best character in the contest moves on. It'd be worth losing a point to see, in my opinion.

Also, do you really believe Ultros could beat Wily? I mean, I think I'd be happy if that happened, but you're scared about it?
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:06:55 AM | Message Detail
Even with today's results, Ultros over Wily is laughable. Ocelot's going to stomp a mudhole in him though.
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Spring Contest 2005 - Points: 01/01 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Sigma - Tomorrow: Ocelot
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:09:44 AM | Message Detail
If Dr. Robotnik was in a MGS game, I would explode with happiness.

So...would anybody buy that Protoman's possibly stronger than Sigma?
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Vortex268 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:10:33 AM | Message Detail
Is there any chance of ultimate posting his bracket? I am very interested to know what his picks were.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:13:01 AM | Message Detail
So...would anybody buy that Protoman's possibly stronger than Sigma?
Well, yes...he might end up slightly stronger than Sigma according the final extrapolated rankings. Of course, Bowser vs. Sigma will give us a much better idea. Oh, and what about the possibility that Protoman suffered SFF against Zero? Protoman could actually be a lot higher than Sigma. =P

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From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:13:38 AM | Message Detail
I would definitely say that Protoman is stronger than Sigma.

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:15:02 AM | Message Detail
A mild case of SFF (7.5%) lands Protoman at about Tails' level in the XS, and I know I'd pick Tails over Sigma, so it's quite possible that he's a good deal stronger.
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Proud supporter of Ghaleon, Kefka, Bowser, Ultros, Liquid, Ocelot, and Wily!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:15:11 AM | Message Detail
Side-note: Sigma just now broke 2,000 on Andross.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:16:00 AM | Message Detail
Whoa, the contest stats page changed for me. It used to have the bracket and 0 points. Now it just says, "Come back Wednesday!"

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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:16:32 AM | Message Detail
I could see Ultros pulling the upset, though it would be more out of his own strength than Al's weakness. Ultros could be more recognizable than Kefka (more games, his pictures look more like him than Kefka's various FMV/Amano incarnations, the chance that he'll be mistaken for Kraken).

I still think Wily will win, though.
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From: Crono801 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:17:29 AM | Message Detail
What games were Ultros in that Kefka wasn't? O_o
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:21:17 AM | Message Detail
Ditto to the above post.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:22:01 AM | Message Detail
-Chocobo's Dungeon II
-Dawn of Souls (under the name "Orthros")

There may be more, but I'm lazy.
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From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:35:48 AM | Message Detail
I don't think either of those games will have any effect on the match.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:36:52 AM | Message Detail
Neither do I, though it may get him up to ten votes.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: irriadin | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:43:10 AM | Message Detail
In terms of recognizability, Dr. Wily is far above Sigma. Sigma, in this picture, looks quite bad in my opinion. Recognition on the picture alone will not help him. Dr. Wily, on the other hand, has a pretty well-known appearance. This, combined with better support of the classic megaman series, leads me to believe that Wily will do much better than Sigma. And yes, Zero did well and Protoman didn't last year, yet I'd put Wily closer to Megaman. Certainly Wily would never, ever even come close to beating Zero, but I think he'd beat Protoman by a sizeable margin.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:45:27 AM | Message Detail
Hell, right now it's uncertain Sigma's stronger than Protoman...so Wily COULD still be pretty "strong".
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 5/4/2005 9:57:19 AM | Message Detail
I didn't know anything about Sigma heading into this tourney, except for his series and that cool picture that CJay used on the "Meet the Villains" page. But looking at the match pic today...ew.

Anywho, I don't think this reflects badly on Wily, because I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be stronger than Sigma...I don't think Ultros poses a real threat to him (I would take Andross over Ultros, honestly), but I guess we'll see come Friday.
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