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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 113
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:22:33 PM | Message Detail
Small comment on Bowser.

He's been looking very nice today. When I checked this morning, he was at 81, and now he has climbed to 84%. Very nice.
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Bowser vs. Pyramid H. - Bracket: Bowser - Vote: Bowser (0/0)
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:25:18 PM | Message Detail
Additional comment on Bowser: he's making Pyramid Head look as bad as Gabe Logan. Whether that's normal or not, I have no idea, but I didn't expect Pyramid Head to be quite this weak. Out of the 109 characters ever in this contest, he'd rank 101, behind such luminaries as Akira Yuki, Ulala, and Tom Nook.
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:27:16 PM | Message Detail
I'm not saying still you guys don't exist, but really (at least in my experience) it's very rare that you see a Bison player, let alone a GOOD Bison. While on the opposite end, you're bound to see legions of shoto-scrubs from time to time. And nice vid there H_C...
From: H__RR____H | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:28:05 PM | Message Detail
Sheesh; maybe the night vote could spare PH a lil'. Either way, I expected PH to be "alot" stronger than this...good job Bowser though, good start.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
From: H__RR____H | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:29:20 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and who are the characters PH could beat?
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:29:51 PM | Message Detail
The only Bison players are good ones, fat Bison's a pain to use, but can mix up better than Slim Bison. Slim Bison is dominate in all games except Turbo and SvC.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:30:32 PM | Message Detail
Tanner.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:33:24 PM | Message Detail
As of right now (15.99% on Bowser):
101 Pyramid Head 9.90
102 Gabe Logan 9.61
103 Captain Olimar 8.84
104 AiAi 8.65
105 Mr. Resetti 8.52
106 Dirk the Daring 7.93
107 Serious Sam 6.31
108 Ms. Pac-Man 5.96
109 Mr. Driller 5.21
110 Tanner 3.77

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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:35:39 PM | Message Detail
To be fair to Olimar, he was SFF'd, even if he is still weak. Even then though...so how badly would Bowser have to beat PH to put him under Gabe?
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:36:32 PM | Message Detail
About 15.5% would put Pyramid Head under Gabe.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:36:43 PM | Message Detail
That is one ugly beating.
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:39:57 PM | Message Detail
Well, good news everyone: barring even MORE of this ass-whooping today, Pyramid Head's still stronger than Gabe Logan. I'm currently writing home about it.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:41:09 PM | Message Detail
That's one hell of a beating PH is being given.

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From: Starion | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:43:21 PM | Message Detail
So this match might reach 70000 votes total after all. Not impressive but not that bad.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:46:24 PM | Message Detail
The reason SF3 is rather unkown and never did well was because of its lack of returning characters. Thrid Strike was the last ditch effort and the last character they added to hype up the roster was Chun-li. Even Capcom is aware that she is one of the game's most popular characters. Trust me, Bison backers, He doesn't rate on the same level as she does, even if he's close.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:47:11 PM | Message Detail
I predict it will reach 75,000, which is about what I was expecting.

Also, CATS could end up being the weakest character in the extrapolateds, based on the beating Ganondorf is destined to give to Ansem.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:47:43 PM | Message Detail
Bison probably would have returned in SFIII, except for the fact he's DEAD
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:49:36 PM | Message Detail
If CATS hits his theorized wall against Ansem pretty quick and Ansem implodes against Ganon, then yeah...otherwise, don't look now, but PH is taking that honor.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:52:33 PM | Message Detail
Has Geese Howard taught you nothing son? Villains never die, they just get into situations where death is inescapable but pull it off anyway because they are supposed to be badasses.

And no, even if he wasn't supposed to be dead he still wouldn't have made it into SF3. 10 to 1 Sagat would come looking for another rematch with Ryu before that happens.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:52:45 PM | Message Detail
I think Giygas will rank worse than Pyramid Head...

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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:53:01 PM | Message Detail
Meh, they would have just retroactively changed the storyline like they done a few times before. (Ryu/Sagat is a prime example) They probably would have came up with something like how his soul wasn't destoryed in the fight against Akuma...
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:54:33 PM | Message Detail
Heh. Akuma sooo owned Bison. =p

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From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:55:34 PM | Message Detail
Giygas? Nah... Ganon would probably beat Giygas about the same as Bowser is currently doing to PH, and Ganon > Bowser (sadly.)
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:56:51 PM | Message Detail
I think Giygas will rank worse than Pyramid Head...

Agreed.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:56:56 PM | Message Detail
*Street Fighter Alpha spoilers*

Wait, I thought Bison's soul took up residence in Rose after he died. Am I just misremembering?

And like Capcom cares about death in canon. Y hallo thar, Zero.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/3/2005 5:58:43 PM | Message Detail
Alpha is a prequal. And Bison hasen't been see in anything besides crossovers and prequals anyway.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:02:42 PM | Message Detail
Those [Alpha] were before Akuma's soul raping of Bison.

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From: creativename | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:04:02 PM | Message Detail
How do you pronounce "Giygas" anyway?
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:04:50 PM | Message Detail
Bison has some realtion to Q however., not much but something.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:10:53 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, nothing would stop Bison from coming back if Capcom wanted him to be there. Changing canon after the fact isn't foreign territory to them. I don't see any reason why Bison would be more popular than Chun-Li, other than the "villain is usually stronger" argument, which is pretty irrelevant in a fighting game.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:11:05 PM | Message Detail
Ya know, I'm thinking Giygas is going to rate about Ryo level. There may not be a lot of support for him, but the EB fans are dedicated to a fault, and some of them will vote for EB no matter what, even if it's just Giygas.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:45:48 PM | Message Detail
Ryo? *looks at X-stats* MAYBE, but I'd imagine Ratchet would beat him in the stats, and I assume Guybrush would too.
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Meanwhile, let's pray I pass my finals.....
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:47:20 PM | Message Detail
If I ever work on a Street Fighter game, I'm making sure that a particular someone gets owned in gameplay potential.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:47:44 PM | Message Detail
I dunno. With how EB performed in the Spring I figure there's a hardcore group of voters that'll not abandon it in any way.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:52:25 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I think Earthbound has enough hardcore fans to prevent Giygas from being dead last, though facing a fellow Nintendite in Ganondorf might hurt.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:54:34 PM | Message Detail
I've skimmed, and I have two comments to make about Street Fighter.

I love you Chichiri, but there is just no way in hell that Cammy would beat M. Bison. And on a related note, if Akuma were in the Ruin Division, he would absolutely walk all over it.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 5/3/2005 6:55:19 PM | Message Detail
Which reminds me about how Ness and Earthbound have had starmen.net link to most/all of their matches, so, should Giygas get that link too, he'll probably avoid the fate I have set aside for him. If not though, I'm certain his fanbase here won't stay true enough for him to stay above Ratchet.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:00:25 PM | Message Detail
And on a related note, if Akuma were in the Ruin Division, he would absolutely walk all over it.

Correct!

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:06:50 PM | Message Detail
While I'm certain Akuma would be better than Bison I'm not sure that I'd take him to beat Kefka.

And Cammy is freakin' awesome. In fact, being that she was played by Kylie Minogue in the movie, she's not just freakin' awesome... she's an embodyment of awesomeness. She'd take no less than 15% of the vote in any match period, just cause those Europeans love Kylie. :)
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:11:18 PM | Message Detail
So you're saying that Street Fighter: The Movie would actually help someone at all, even with The Kylie Factor? That does not compute.

As far as Akuma, I don't know if I'd take him over Kefka or Diablo.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:12:43 PM | Message Detail
Well it IS Kylie, after all. She was a pop star when I was... well, that's not important. Let's just say that even at her age I'd still do her.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:14:05 PM | Message Detail
Chun > Cammy. She's the better female starting with C. =p

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:16:12 PM | Message Detail
I used to be all about Chun-li at first. then I started playing Cammy and realized she is frickin' awesome. Her moveset is great. I still love Chun-li, I'd just take Cammy over her any day of the week.










And Mai over either. But hey, I'm a KoF fan.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:17:03 PM | Message Detail
I'm dominantly a Steet Fighter fan and I can say that Chun would down Mai in two seconds. =p

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:20:38 PM | Message Detail
"I'm dominantly a Steet Fighter fan and I can say that Chun would down Mai in two seconds. =p"

We know you're biased, you don't have to say so. Besides, Mai has the vastly surior moveset. I'd give the advantage to Mai.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:21:27 PM | Message Detail
Karin would kick all their asses.
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From: Starion | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:21:50 PM | Message Detail
I'd take Chun-Li over both of them in her Alpha2 and SF3:TS incarnation
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:22:24 PM | Message Detail
... *shakes his head in disgust*
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:23:16 PM | Message Detail
Chun's moveset just about kicks the crap out of everything, except for Masters because there is no topping him.

http://img47.echo.cx/img47/7672/chunlitenseiranka6ci.gif
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/4884/chunlispinningbirdkick7nb.gif
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/9752/chunlikikoushou6ci.gif
http://img47.echo.cx/img47/2745/chunliwin13lo.gif

Give Mai one of those little numbers.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/3/2005 7:24:16 PM | Message Detail
Alpha 3, maybe. 3rd Strike, no. that's the version of Chun-li that made me stop liking her. Just didn't feel right after that.
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