Ryu's better in Marvel, Alpha, and SF2, and I think in the first 2 SFIII games.

I know Ryu was better in one of the SF3 games, but I'm pretty sure Ken was better, or at least, even in the other. But I don't think either really matter when discussing the overall contest performance. The main games to note for SF would be SF2, SFA, and games like CvS2. Outside of those, I wouldn't wager the GameFAQs community gets much on the fighting scene.

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Yeah, well, soem people want to argue gameplay has an effect, so that alone would give Cammy a good size advantage. Of course, she was by far the most popular new character in SSF2 and in those days until, as mentioned, the brokenness of Guile was discovered she was fairly well played, at least in the areas I played. She's hot, too, which made a lot of people like her. Either way I'd take her over Bison in a contest.
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Bowser's being increasing slowly up to 84%...let's see if he can get to 85%..I think 90% is out of the question, but I hope for that. He deserves it. :-(

90% was out of the question once you saw the poll results this morning. But 85% is possible, although I would expect somewhere around mid-84%.


And what the hell did I say about these vote totals? I shouldn't have touched my tiebreaker. >.>

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And Cammy would beat Bison, easily.

I think we'll just have to disagree on that one for now. I wouldn't find myself taking Cammy over Bison.

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It's just the first match. Give it time.
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Who said thatI was talking about ryu being better than Ken storywise? Ryu is better in SF2 games and in Marvel Ken is even weaker than Dan.

And story tiers rarely come into play, Oro is leauges beyong almost everybody in Street Fighter even without 2 arms and he's nothing special in the games. Morrigan is strong enough to wipe the floor with DBZ characters and she'slittle more than an Akuma clone without a hurricane kick.
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Agreed, on the disagreeing.

Fine time, as round 3 is starting. Though my opponent hasn't reponded yet. 9:30 minutes and I get game one free :)
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Morri would win because she's a succubus, not because she is uber powerful. Even Goku is man enough to be tempted by her, Chichi or no. Hell, I think Pan would be tempted to tap that.
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The main games to note for SF would be SF2, SFA, and games like CvS2.L

Weird, how did Servbot do better than Iroi, Kyo and terry?
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For coming from an obscure platformer Strider is very strong, unless you think someone like Kolona would be stronger than he is.
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Ya know, thinking about it, I think we need a MvC3. Not because I like the series (two was way too over the top for me) but because it did some interesting thing. No character in that game was in the lower half in 2k2.

3 minutes till I get me a free win.
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Wow, I never though Bowser would 'Penta Thrust' Pyramid Head.

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There's Marvel vs EA instead....
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Who said thatI was talking about ryu being better than Ken storywise? Ryu is better in SF2 games and in Marvel Ken is even weaker than Dan.

Ryu is only better, and marginally at that, in the latter SF2 games. And I'm not a fan of MvC games, but I suppose you could make a case there, especially for casual people.

And story tiers rarely come into play, Oro is leauges beyong almost everybody in Street Fighter even without 2 arms and he's nothing special in the games.

Oro is a bastard, but he's still got some competition from Akuma as far as that is concerned. Although Oro kicked Ryu's ass like it was nothing, so I'm certainly not saying that Oro is weaker than Akuma.

Weird, how did Servbot do better than Iroi, Kyo and terry?

"Games like" CvS2 is in reference to crossover titles. That's where the MvC games come into play.

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The next Capcom crossover isen't even a fighting game, despite that, Servbot, Morrigan and Strider return after half a decade MIA.
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Obscure? Strider was freakin' pimp in the day. The original Strider was just too freaking awesome to call it obscure by any means, esp since it was a fair release on the NES and a good, early gen title on the Genesis. Sure, it's been forgotten somewhat by time, but if Capcom would give Strider the DMC treatmeant (making it similar to Shinobi/Ninja Gaiden/Castlevania LoI but doing it the way only Capcom can do perfectly) he could be a top dog again.
Oh yeah, game one all mine, uncontested. 7 minutes and game 2 is mine as well.
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There's Marvel vs EA instead....

LOL, Spiderman/Wolverine vs John Madden/Ron Artest

Ron Artest + Stephen Jackson assist = TOP TIER! :P (BTW, I know that EA will be making there own characters)

DID SOMEONE SAY EA!??!

*pulls out machine gun*

WHO THE HELL SAID EA?!

*mutters about "that communist dictatorship of a so-called capitalist hegemony" and other stuff that makes no damn sense*


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Bowser, Sigma, Ocelot, Wily||Sephy, Vergil, Lavos, Liquid
Kefka, Wesker, Bison, Diablo||Ganon, Ansem, Eggman, Kuja

Yeah, but EA vs. Marvel is going to be mediocre at best, I'm sure. And the next Capcom cross over could be anywhere from bland to godlike. I'm hoping for the second, just to keep things interesting.
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Capcom has been on the biggest roll with great games this generation. 'Tis why I love them so. <3

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Well, Namco's making the game, hopefully they can do a better job than making another unblanced rush job like SvC choas or a cut and paste like capcom.
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Actually they dropped the ball for awile, they just now picked it back up and started running with it again.

2.5 minutes until I win my match by default *sighs*. Someone tell me this isn't a bad thing. Winning without playing my magical cards feels soooo wrong.
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It's actually some sort of RPG, and all the characters look SD so they are probably all new.

Oh, and someone tell me it's not wrong to win by default, please.
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"It's not wrong to win by default."
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Say, anyone know how the vote totals compare to previous contests? I hear people complaining about the numbers right now.
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They're really low, though not SC2K2 low.

Oh, and what is everyone expecting from Sigma-Andross tomorrow, percentage-wise? I'm thinking about 65-35.
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A strategy RPG actually.
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Siggy will win 60-40, maybe a little less.
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I'm going with a 70-30 in favor of Sigma.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

Right now the total looks to be better than the 2k2 contest, (roughly 50-60k) but I don't think it'll hit the levels of the other contests which often got in the 90k.

Aaah, the two greatest words in the English language.

De Fault... De Fault.

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I am personally thinking Sigma to be a high 50ish winner, with anything into the 60s being gravy.

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Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts

Actually this match looks like it'll only be slightly lower than Bowser's first match last year. He's not a vote draw, really.
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Andross is going to be one weak competitor. Look at Fox, who's even lower than Ness. Sigma will undoubtedly be higher than Protoman and probably Wily as well.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Picking what's expected is no fun. I know I'm not going to win these contests anyway, so I might as well do something crazy, so long as there's a reasonable chance of it occurring.

Do these figures look familiar to you?

1 - LordOfDabu 153 Chrono Trigger

=P
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- Ludwig van Beethoven

Unfortunately we can't rely on what the numebrs say about fox or pikachu, Cloud/Mario screwed everything up in 2k2 and those two faced eachother with Fox then facing Link. SFF anybody?

Though Andross is nothing compared to Fox. Falco should have gotten into a contest before Andross.
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Unfortunately we can't rely on what the numebrs say about fox or pikachu, Cloud/Mario screwed everything up in 2k2 and those two faced eachother with Fox then facing Link. SFF anybody?

It's pretty safe to say that Fox is weaker than Ness though. You have to adjust Cloud WAY up there (pretty close to Link) to get Fox higher.
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Cloud, pretty close to Link... hmmm.
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I'll guarantee that Sigma will be stronger than Wily. Hell, Sigma is going to be the strongest newcomer out of everyone here. I would choose him over Ocelot.

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Adjusting Cloud up to around Link sounds about par for the course to me...

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In 2002? I don't see that being the case. If we're going to say that, we might as well say there was no WDF and that was Sephiroth's true strength against Link.
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I would choose him over Ocelot.

And you would be wrong.
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No, actually, I wouldn't.

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Sigma the strongest???

CoughKujaCough

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HAHA at Kuja being the strongest newcomer. I could buy Sigma being the strongest after Sephiroth, Gannondorf, Bowser, and Liquid Snake.
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I dont like Silent Hill, but come on look at Pyramid Head. His head is a pyramid. How can you NOT vote for that?

Sigma will probably be stronger than Wily, but it'll probably be more of Wily being weak than Sigma being strong.
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As much as I would love for it to be Kuja, it'll be Ocelot.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

For the first time, probably in the history of this topic, Square will be underestimated to the point of jawdroppings. Tidus has been marginally underestimated in the past, but nothing will compare to the hell that is raised when Kuja gets 45%+ on Ganondorf.

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...and I am well aware of where that puts him in relation to Tidus, Magus and Vivi.

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