There should be a different topic for it. Look for it in a day or two.
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Great. We'll see how many perfects there are. My prediction: 2.
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Nominate Meta Knight (Kirby Series) for Summer Contest!

Think any perfects will be from our board, those who think there will be at least one perfect?

I think so.
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i figure 0-1 perfects, depending on whether i'm one.
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Yeah, both from our board, at least I think so.
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Nominate Meta Knight (Kirby Series) for Summer Contest!

Like I explained in the previous topic around post 314 or so, I'm predicting around 15 +/- 5 perfects, mostly from this board, and around 8 +/- 4 zeroes.
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It's 'bout time for this.
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We're back in the season of people who never post in the stats topic flooding for 500, I see.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Yeah, it's horrible. Oh well. So yeah, two more days... blah.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Blarg. We could be watching Bowser crush Pyramid Head and debating whether or not Pyramid Head could beat Guybrush Threepwood right now. Stupid extension...
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Guybrush > Pyramid Head
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Or maybe I'm Leonhart. That's for you to decide.

Bere's a little taste of what I will be doing in the more boring moments in my life, when I'm not packing up and moving.


Name: Votes for / Votes against / % for
Link 1163041 500320 69.92%
Cloud 1081824 499134 68.43%
Sephiroth 966978 403106 70.58%
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?

Wow, awesome work with all those lists Ulti.

The only thing I can say is that solar would be truly proud.
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle)
SC2k4 - 12th place!

I have all of the lists archived over on RPGDL, and if anyone happens to see a mistake, we have post editing over there. Don't be afraid to point something out if you see it.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

Does anybody think Bowser will benefit from Paper Mario 2?
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Amazing how many lists Link and Cloud or Zelda and FFVII dominate.
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"I don't care about your instrument! My god is communicating with me!"
- Ludwig van Beethoven

I doubt that Bowser would benefit much from it. With well known characters like Bowser and Mario who have been in PLENTY of games, it would take a monumental game to have an effect on their popularity (read: Legend of Zelda (working title)- GC). Call it popularity saturation.
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Anyone who didn't love Bowser in Paper Mario 2 should be shot. He was absolutely awesome in that game.
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Yeah, and Four Swords Adventures was such a monumental game that it shot Link up 5%.
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Oh, same with Metroid Zero Mission and Samus.
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Anyone who didn't love Bowser in Paper Mario 2 should be shot. He was absolutely awesome in that game.

It's a shame that the rest of teh game couldn't be quite as awesome.
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"I don't care about your instrument! My god is communicating with me!"
- Ludwig van Beethoven

Link also had several of his games packed with the Gamecube for awhile.
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This is painful. I was looking forward to staying up 'til 1 o' clock to watch the first match of the contest...but no more.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

It's a shame that the rest of teh game couldn't be quite as awesome.

I disagree. PM2 is tied with Metroid Prime as my favorite GameCube game. It owns the hell out of SMRPG, PM, and M&L as far as I'm concerned.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

For what it is worth, PM2 outsold PM.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

What the hell? You actually think 4-Swords Adventure was the reason for Link's 5% increase???

And I take it you didn't read the part about character's having multiple games.... Samus did NOT have multiple games. She had a lot of room for growth in that terms. Think of Crono for example. ANY type of game with him in it would probably increase his popularity because he only has Chrono Trigger to work for him.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I still believe that if Crono/Magus/Frog ever got a new game with them in it, they would all rank as the some of the strongest characters in the contest. With Crono capable of taking on the Big 3.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

No, my point was that characters do not need "monumental" games to increase, Link, Samus, and the entire KH crew being good examples of that. Of course, Prime and Wind Waker were both arguably "monumental," and neither character gained anything from them.
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I disagree. PM2 is tied with Metroid Prime as my favorite GameCube game.

Yeah, that explains it. The N64 one was vastly superior.
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"I don't care about your instrument! My god is communicating with me!"
- Ludwig van Beethoven

But the whole emphasis of my post was about characters who have been around for a long time and have lots of games out. Squaresoft characters specifically are excluded because most of them only are in one major game. So ANY appearance in another game probably will increase their popularity. Samus also hasn't had many games until the Prime, Fusion, Zero Mission trio. Now her popularity has increased due to more exposure.

Bowser, Mario, and Link however are already HIGHLY exposed characters who have multiple games. You just proved my point on how Wind Waker didn't do much for Link. To actually think that Four Swords would be the cause of Link's increase and NOT the hype for his new game is puzzling. (I'm not even gonna touch the fact of CJayC exclusively using WW pics for Link in 2k3). So yes, I stand by my feeling that a character like Bowser, Mario, or Link who has been in VG limelight for a long time would need monumental games to have a noticeable increase in popularity. No Wind Waker was NOT monumental compared to what the new LoZ will be.


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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Back in the previous topic, but I'm glad somebody has actually considered putting M. Bison over the winner of Ridley/Diablo. It's a nice upset special...if that happens, though, I think Kefka has the division locked.

No, my point was that characters do not need "monumental" games to increase, Link, Samus, and the entire KH crew being good examples of that. Of course, Prime and Wind Waker were both arguably "monumental," and neither character gained anything from them.

Perhaps Samus would have gotten a Solid Snake sort of slip if it wasn't for Metroid Prime? And then she just recovered from that slip the next year?

Lastly, I think Pyramid Head will be stronger than Guybrush. Silent Hill games are quite popular, and if RE characters didn't fare so bad, perhaps Pyramid Head won't (compared to other fodder). Then again, he's a villain in a single game, I think...

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

You know, suddenly I'm feeling worried about Bison over Ridley/Diablo.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

...and I am feeling worried I might not get my perfect bracket. Why couldn't we already have data on Ghaleon or Lunar... bastards.

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Ghaleon isn't coming close to Vergil.

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Get the X out.

Vergil will beat Ghaleon on the cool pic factor alone... Unless Cjay screws his pic up like he did with Ryu H.

Ghaleon will beat Vergil.

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“If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.”

I've called it since nominations were up; Ghaleon is gonna choke...hard. Vergil isn't powerhouse-material, but Vergil will still tear him up.
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I don't see why ghaleon is going to be crushed by vergil. He probably won't win but I doubt that vergil will crush him.
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The absolute floor for Ghaleon is Luca Blight, and I think he'll be a good deal stronger. Regardless, Vergil would have to be at Vyse's level to double Luca, and I don't think he'll be that high.
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I won't go so far as to say Vergil will double him...but I think he'll be pretty close to doing it. I am simply lacking ANY faith in Ghaleon doing decent...

...maybe he'll beat Vergil just to spite me, heh.
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Ghaleon can still be a good deal stronger than Luca Blight and not come that close to Vergil.
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You know the contest needs to start when we're debating whether or not Ghaleon can come close to a villain in Devil May Cry 3.

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Meh, they're picking Ghaleon on conviction alone, so they have to justify it.
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0_o it's a damn good thing I just double checked my bracket (I haven't touched it since a day after they were released). I accidently put lavos over liquid snake.
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I don't think it's particularly unreasonable to think that Ghaleon would get 60% on Luca and that Vergil would get 30% on Dante, leading to a 54/46 split in Ghaleon's favor in a match between the two, but we shall see.
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that Vergil would get 30% on Dante

With SFF, maybe.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!

Without; as I've made clear, I don't think the majority of villains in this contest will get anywhere near their hero's support.
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Vergil will beat Ghaleon on the virtue of more people knowing who he is. Lunar is still a little too cult for Ghaleon to handle him, especially considering how recent DMC3 is.
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