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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 111
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/23/2005 3:58:42 PM | Message Detail
Contest starts in one week omgomg =)

*Stats websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/extrapolated.php

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k2_extrapolated.htm

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k3_extrapolated.htm

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

*Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

Creativename's Links Page:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

*Miscellaneous*

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k4.com/update.php (add "?pollid=[4-digit poll number]" at the end of url to look at charts from past polls)

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=2

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=3

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=3

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2005 3:59:43 PM | Message Detail
OMG FISRT!
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Official Queen ***** of the Universe!
From: Fiop | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:03:54 PM | Message Detail
SMITELF IS FIRST
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"To sit at home, read one's favorite paper, and scoff at the men who do things is easy, but markedly ineffective" --Theodore Roosevelt
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:07:02 PM | Message Detail
I can hardly wait for the contest to start.....
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.
From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:08:25 PM | Message Detail
I'm really only interested in two things:

1)See if I can get a perfect score (you'll need it this time around...)
2)See Ultros in a contest setting.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Captain Roy Falcon | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:08:29 PM | Message Detail
LAWL FORTH!
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"Then in nineteen fifteen my country said Son, It's time to stop rambling 'cause there's work to be done
So they gave me a tin hat and they gave me a gun, and they sent me away to the war"
From: Ludwig Von 2 | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:09:11 PM | Message Detail
hope I win.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn
From: Invisa | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:25:43 PM | Message Detail
gogogo CATS against ansem!
From: zerolaw | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:29:21 PM | Message Detail
dam these threads are up to 111? thats crazy, i remember the first one from the first contest. 110 maxed out topics is insane.
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2oo4 contest Stats:
Day63: Link Vs. Cloud Points: 187/192/192 Finshed T-45
From: Just Some Person | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:31:39 PM | Message Detail
So, who has Ridley going to the the third round?

Are you prepared to lose multiple points in this contest?

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"Being a Hunter has to be the best job in the world! Well, next to pimp..."
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:34:20 PM | Message Detail
110 maxed out topics is insane.

The first topic didn't hit 500. Crazy, ain't it?

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:42:48 PM | Message Detail
I have Ridley to the FOURTH round, and winning points is my goal.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.
From: Dranze | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:43:41 PM | Message Detail
I have Ridley in the Final Four
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Shut up, make me a sandwich. That is all.
From: Silencer S | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:44:01 PM | Message Detail
Diablo is gonna Diablow!
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"The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall."- Ernesto Che Guevara
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:45:28 PM | Message Detail
I have Ridley in the final four and am prepared to win multiple points.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: Dranze | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:46:17 PM | Message Detail
I still fail to see why Diablo matches up with Ridley..
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Shut up, make me a sandwich. That is all.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:47:52 PM | Message Detail
Because he'll be like Diablo II and get the cheatz.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/23/2005 4:49:17 PM | Message Detail
WONDERFUL PLAY ON WORDS BY SILENCER S.

We've never heard that before, either. Really.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: cyko | Posted: 4/23/2005 5:13:08 PM | Message Detail
man, i can't wait another friggin' week........ >_<

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VOTE FOR ULTROS!!! G'FHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 4/23/2005 5:15:13 PM | Message Detail
I have Ridley going to round 3 and no further.
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I DUN WANNA KNO, WAT DEY SAY NONO I DUN CAIR
*is Janus5000*
From: Weird Kirby Dude11 | Posted: 4/23/2005 5:16:35 PM | Message Detail
Ridley to the Final Four here. If half of Board 8 didn't pick him, then I guess he's looking to be a good upset pick.
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Weird Kirby Dude ~Board Hunter~ Board 584508
Tanner. The only guy Gordon can call a loser and not sound like a hypocrite. - Slowflake
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 4/23/2005 5:26:29 PM | Message Detail
Luca Blight to the 2nd is one week away from still being my upset special de jour.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts
From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/23/2005 5:28:17 PM | Message Detail
So, who has Ridley going to the the third round?

Are you prepared to lose multiple points in this contest?


I have Ridley in the final four and see no flaws in my bracket whatsoever.
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Jon Thomson - knows nothing
Ridley's Road to Victory - Round 1 vs. (7) Diablo
From: Heroic Alt | Posted: 4/23/2005 7:38:58 PM | Message Detail
Question: Is my old account still eligible to win prizes even though it's banned?

Imagine if I won the contest with Leonhart4...
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Yes, I know most of you know who I am by now. But shh! Don't tell anyone <_<
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 4/23/2005 7:42:12 PM | Message Detail
Question: Is my old account still eligible to win prizes even though it's banned?

Imagine if I won the contest with Leonhart4...


i think it is. When and why did Leonhart4 get banned??

Heil Dweebenheimer!!! For I am MasterMage119!!!
From: Heroic Alt | Posted: 4/23/2005 7:45:22 PM | Message Detail
I got IP axed, so Leonhart4 went down to the grave.
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Yes, I know most of you know who I am by now. But shh! Don't tell anyone <_<
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/23/2005 8:30:14 PM | Message Detail
Pretty sure it can still win you some prizes, though that may be something you wanna ask about.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 4/23/2005 8:31:33 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I'm just alt roaming right now.
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Can't keep a good man down, baby!
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 4/23/2005 8:34:24 PM | Message Detail
I have Diablo going to the final four. No worries at all. Well, maybe a little when Diablo faces Kefka, but I believe Diablo could take it.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
Nominate Christian for SC2K5!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/23/2005 8:37:57 PM | Message Detail
I love that sig, Leonhart. =)

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/24/2005 3:27:35 PM | Message Detail
The time for this has drawn near.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:28:40 PM | Message Detail
Best 500th post ever.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:28:41 PM | Message Detail
Dammit! I got Diamond Cutter'd!!!
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:28:42 PM | Message Detail
It isn't as obvious though, no matter how you slice it, and its not like his matches are going to be blowouts.

I don't know anyone here who would have any sort of trouble choosing a winner if Cloud and Link were not present in a Summer Contest environment. Samus cannot beat Sephiroth. I don't understand why some people in this topic will say that Samus has a shot at Sephiroth, but then have turned around and said that Crono wouldn't beat Samus despite the gap being closer. Honestly, if you remove those two it just becomes blatant obvious that Sephiroth is going to win. It doesn't matter if he beats Samus with 54-55%. It isn't "worth seeing" just to see it. We know how it would play out. Now, the example you brought up about Frog / Master Chief is certainly worth seeing again. Why? Because it can easily go the other way. Samus / Sephiroth stands little to no chance of going into Samus's favor.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:29:51 PM | Message Detail
Diamond Cutter > RKO

:D

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:30:32 PM | Message Detail
well, Crono will slowly work his way up to par with Link and Cloud.....Mario was jsut a mere stepping stone on his path to righteousness

The only way that happens is if Crono either gets another game, a complete remake on a console, or a cameo appearance in something like Kingdom Hearts. It is unfortunate that he must lose so, but that's how these things work.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:31:01 PM | Message Detail
I do gotta agree on that. DDP > Orton, while we're at it.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:31:36 PM | Message Detail
Or we could just wait until Summer Contest 2006 because apparently every contest winner is going to be excluded without exception, and CJayC is going to give Samus a females contest win next Spring just to get her out of there.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:34:02 PM | Message Detail
For all this talk, we haven't the slightest on what CJayC has planned for the Summer Contest this year. We've just flirted with the idea that this could be a way of to remove Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth and it not create an uproar or lack reason behind it. Sephiroth's victory in this contest would more than make fans happy if he wasn't present in a Summer Contest. I don't know where the idea came up that fans would be angry because of that.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:35:13 PM | Message Detail
Eh, because it seems like a cop out solely for the purpose of getting rid of him.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:36:13 PM | Message Detail
Of course the Frog/MC example was better, of course... neither of them have any potential of being barred from competing. The only thing that'll keep either out is lack of nominations.

And really, let's be honest. While we all agree that Link and Cloud are untouchable why are there still some of you that think Seph can lose to anyone other than Cloud or Link? Sure, the gap between Samus and Seph is half the gap between Cloud and Seph, but we've seen Samus lose to Sephiroth, and we saw her match up against the same character that Seph matched up against and lose worse. The sheer force of bracket voters will make for a self-fulfilling prophecy on this one, should Cloud and Link ever be absent while Sephiroth is not. That'd undoubtedly be the highest number of summer contest brackets choosing the same winner even if it's not to the degree that this spring's contest will be.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:36:52 PM | Message Detail
Actually, Sephiroth gets his chance at winning a contest, fans are happy, and CJayC gets a reason to remove the three most dominant forces in the contest. I'm not sure where the problem is in that. . .

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:37:54 PM | Message Detail
Of course you don't see the problem in it. You hate Sephiroth.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:38:06 PM | Message Detail
Exhibit A: I'm not sure where the problem is in that. . .
Exhibit B: CJayC gets a reason to remove the three most dominant forces in the contest.

That reeks of wrong.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:39:44 PM | Message Detail
Neither do I, and very little would make me happier than seeing Sephiroth win the summer contest. Of course, if he isn't beating Link and Cloud to win that championship he may as well take this championship. I'd be happy enough with that. I'd rather not have any characters removed than have Cloud and Link out and leave Sephiroth just because it'll make the finals so much more predictable than in any other situation.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:40:51 PM | Message Detail
just because it'll make the finals so much more predictable than in any other situation.

Other than this contest's finals, of course.
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Hi,I'm partystar. ^_^
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:41:41 PM | Message Detail
I meant that in terms of summer contests. Apparently spring contests are doomed to always have the most predictable of winners.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:42:41 PM | Message Detail
Of course you don't see the problem in it. You hate Sephiroth.

That has little barring on his removal after he's already won a contest. If CJayC removes the champions from any previous character contest, then all is well. I was never a fan of this villain contest to begin with, winner or not. I much rather would have seen another game contest without divisions by era over this. The only reason I want him gone is to have a potential four winners to choose from. Now, the number of winners isn't what makes a contest so much as the bracket itself. But you can create a bracket that suits that and has the four potential winners.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:43:39 PM | Message Detail
That reeks of wrong.

Again, I don't see the problem in that.

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“Thou hast lost thy friend before thine very eyes; there art no words to comfort thee.”
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/24/2005 7:50:04 PM | Message Detail
I agree with the Sephiroth hater. I see no wrong in this situation if it comes to pass. Really guys, it's not that bad.
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But my silent fears have gripped me, long before I reach the phone, long before my tongue has tripped me. Must I always be alone?
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