Er... instead of a character contest.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, Say I'm the only bee in your bonnet. Make a little birdhouse in your soul.

Small FFVII and FFIX SPOILER

...WTF?

And I can understand Jecht not being eligible, but Seymour? WTF?
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That's the only way to explain Sin getting into the contest before him. Seriously, it's the only way.
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What makes Dr. Robotnik = Tails so unreasonable? I wanna know where Tails is actually prefered to Dr. Robotnik so I can take a piss in their water system.
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Well, I do like Tails better, but not by much. Now, I'm supporting Eggman all the way to Ganondorf, even if he doesn't make it that far.
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...WTF?

I wrote something, then I deleted it and forgot to delete the Spoiler warning, can I get moded for warning for a Sooiler that doesn't exist?

Anyway Robotnik=Tails is not unreasonable now that I think about it, they have the same type of missions in SA2 and Robotnik is playable. But I still don't think he can beat Kuja, even if I will vote for the Doctor.

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Supporting this Villians: Ghaleon, Sephiroth, Albert Wesker, Dr Robotnik and Bowser.

Can somebody please list all the 3D game Dr. Robotnik has been in, from the Dreamcast up?
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Can somebody please list all the 3D game Dr. Robotnik has been in, from the Dreamcast up?

Sonic Adventure 1-2 (Plus the GC remakes)
Sonic Heroes
Virtula Striker 3, version 2002. (Best goalkeeper ever)


And I guess that he's in: Sonic crackers and Sega superstar.
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Zelos: Don't hate me just because I'm beautiful.
Supporting this Villians: Ghaleon, Sephiroth, Albert Wesker, Dr Robotnik and Bowser.

I'll throw in Sonic Mega Collection for that list, too, just because. Hmm...and of those, what's his role? I know he's playable in a game or two.....
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He's in Sonic 3D Blast, too.

You're asking, what's his role in all these games?
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I know he's a villain in most/all of the 3D ones...but I know he's playable in one or two too. I'm curious as to which ones he's controllable in, I guess is what I meant.
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His role is that he's the boss of vitrually every zone in the games. He basically just comes at you with a different machine each time.

I think he's asking about the 3D games, where there are more than a few subtilities.
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Guru List.

01 - UltimateralizerX
02 - Team Rocket Elite
03 - MasterMage119
04 - HaRRicH
05 - Haste2
06 - RPGuy96
07 - H4L187
08 - cyko
09 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - Redtooth
71 - Blade X
72 - TheCalmness
73 - Qwaar
74 - Tai
75 - Lieutenant Kettch
76 - Neoatomtaco
77 - ScorpionX3
78 - Fett0001
79 - neonreaper
80 - zMega64
81 - Smurf
82 - Aprosenf
83 - Buzzup
84 - mrbird99
85 - octoinky
86 - irriadin
87 - dethwing
88 - Steve Illumina
89 - Cavemanbob
90 - The Wise Tonberry
91 - iGenesis
92 - Heroic Viktor (tnote827)
93 - PugTheNinja
94 - Ringworm
95 - Silverflame
96 - ImSoBlazed
97 - Andaca

Oh I see now, yeah he's playable in SA2.

*SONIC SERIES SPOILERS*

Sonic 3D Blast: Same as in the 2D Sonics. No more, no less.

Sonic Adventure: Attempts to give Chaos the Chaos Emeralds in order to destroy Station Square, but loses control over him when Chaos is defeated by Sonic and Knuckles on the Egg Carrier. After that he tries to stop Chaos, but fails miserably.

Sonic Adventure 2: Tries to conquer the planet with the threat of the Eclipse Cannon on the space colony ARK, but things backfire when the prototype of the ultimate life form uses Chaos Control to shove the colony up his ass and tries to ram it towards Earth, at which point Eggman teams up with Sonic and gang to try and stop it.

Sonic Heroes: Builds the Egg Fleet to take over the world (again), but Metal Sonic rebels, locks him away and parades as Eggman for most of the game. Team Chaotix rescues Eggman who... well, does nothing but deliver exposition. Oh, and tries to escape paying Team Chaotix, with hilarious results.
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Getting close to 100 signups.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, Say I'm the only bee in your bonnet. Make a little birdhouse in your soul.

Don't worry, I know my roots; it's the branches I'm not so sure about, so to speak.

This just makes me question even more why people think Tails > Dr. Robotnik; common sense denotes that with a resume like that, it should be at least Dr. = Tails. He was in four big games on the Genesis and was constantly pulling out the big machines, has been in some spin-off games like Sonic R and Sonic Spinball, had a sweet-but-not-entirely-popular puzzle game named after him, and is apparently still keeping at it in his newer games (as well as becoming playable). Tails missed the first Sonic (no biggy) and hasn't had a game named after him (no biggy either)...but come on; who seriously didn't get mad sometimes when Tails would cost you rings in the bonus games of Sonic 2? Who didn't enjoy trying to trick Tails into death by jumping on moving platforms, even if they were out of your way?

WHO HAS BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO NOT HEAR OR EVEN READ TAILS' THEME IN SONIC HEROES OR WHICHEVER SONIC GAME IT IS?!?!?

Tails is little more than frustrating among the fanbase, though Tails is still liked; he's like the little brother of the Sonic characters, save the fact you can kill him and not have your parents ground you for life. I don't see how Dr. Robotnik will rank below him.
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Most, if not all of the 3D Sonics' theme songs suck anyway. But Tails' reached a new standard there.
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I expect many jokes about spanking the monkey during the Kuja/Glove match.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal

and hasn't had a game named after him (no biggy either)

Actually, Tails has had two games named after him for the Game Gear.
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NO. I the ultimate Sonic fanboy on this board, forgot about Sonic 3d blast.
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Zelos: Don't hate me just because I'm beautiful.
Supporting this Villians: Ghaleon, Sephiroth, Albert Wesker, Dr Robotnik and Bowser.

I didn't know they got released; I remember hearing talks about 'em as a kid, but I always thought they got scrapped. My bad then; I need to start gettin' my crap straight over here, heh.
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Check out the poll of the day...I hereby coin this tourney...

"The Sephiroth Show"

8 years later...and this fanboy juggernaut refuses to be derailed...

Anyone who is not a fool will pick him to win it all...so the first round 1 point matches will be even more crucial to win now...not that I have to tell my fellow elites that little tidbit...

April 30th I shall resume my regular column with a hilarious satirical preview of the 1st match...featuring some guy and...umm.. some other guy. Yah..thats it...

Until then...I shall complain about the injustice that is Palmer not being in the field of 32. For fat justice!
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That's the only way to explain Sin getting into the contest before him. Seriously, it's the only way.

yeah, Seymour had to have been ineligible. almost noone on this Board nominated Sin, but both Seyomour and Seifer had more than enough to break into the field of Top 32 board nominations. unless, maybe people off this board forgot who Seymour was and had the name of Sin beaten into their heads from hearing it in every single conversation in FFX. *shrugs*

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I somehow seem to have snuck upon the 700 karma mark without noticing it. Hm.

Does anyone know anything about Kerrigan however? I'm of the opinion that she could easily down half the characters in this contest, but even naysayers have to admit that she would still be stronger than at least a handful of these losers. And in any case, the fact that freaking Diablo made it into the contest would suggest that Kerrigan should have cleared the same mark easily. Was she kept out for the same antihero-ish reason, say, that Magus would have been?
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

No, maybe for being an "evil protagonist", however...
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Ceej's rules stated that you had to fight the villain in order for said villain to be eligible. You never fight Kerrigan.
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He said it should be someone you "should" fight, not someone you "must" fight. And you never fight CATS, either.
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Why in the world would Seymour have been ineligible though? There's no reason for it.

unless, maybe people off this board forgot who Seymour was and had the name of Sin beaten into their heads from hearing it in every single conversation in FFX.

That was very possibly it.

Maybe there was a "1 villain per game" limit too that he didn't tell us about...but, Ocelot and Liquid made it...but Ocelot was also in more games...bah, I have no idea.
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Ah, ok. Have been awol for the past four or five months, so i missed the whole lead in to the contest. Thanks.

Sad. =(
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

He said it should be someone you "should" fight, not someone you "must" fight. And you never fight CATS, either.

But of course, CATS has to be in every contest ever, just for the sheer idiocy of it all. They could have an all female character contest, Kerrigan still wouldnt make it and CATS would be a four seed.

Le sigh.

;)
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Honorary Spring 2005 Winner - Kerrigan.

when I was filling out my bracket, I had Bowser take out Seph and Kefka take out Ganondorf with Kefka winning. But after seeing the poll of the day, I had top put seph to win, how could I forget about the FF7 craze?

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CATS would triple Ansem without even having a match pic if he ever had the chance; CATS will have earned his spot here by the end of the first round.
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"I'm of the opinion that she could easily down half the characters in this contest,"

I'm of the opinion that CATS may be able to do the same though...

"Maybe there was a "1 villain per game" limit "

Kefka and Ultros.
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CATS would triple Ansem

^^^Crazy talk part deux.
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Check the sig, cn.
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I think Kuja over Sin is simply unlikely. I know those two polls were just favorites-polls and games =/= characters, but the odds are in Sin's favor there methinks if it happens to be a Sin/Kuja match in the second round.

Now you're just being silly. You admitted that games =/= characters and yet you STILL think a giant whale can beat a legitimate villain from within its own series?
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"It feels as though the raindrops are blessing our victory." - Kuja
"I never trust a Frenchman." - Revolver Ocelot

I'm very eager to see how strong Ultros will be.

Though perhaps "strong" isn't the right word to use.
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I'm eager to see Ultros get the living crap beat out of him, personally.
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"It feels as though the raindrops are blessing our victory." - Kuja
"I never trust a Frenchman." - Revolver Ocelot

Check the sig, cn.

Oh I knew very well you were kidding. I just had to say that.
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Games =/= characters, right, but when there's that big of a difference between the two games of the same series, I don't think it's all that ridiculous to assume the villain from the more-popular game (which is the FF of this generation, to boot...never hurts) has some edge over the villain from the less-popular game.
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Games =/= characters, right, but when there's that big of a difference between the two games of the same series, I don't think it's all that ridiculous to assume the villain from the more-popular game (which is the FF of this generation, to boot...never hurts) has some edge over the villain from the less-popular game.

Which is why I'd take Seymour over Kuja, but we're talking Sin here. I can't see any fathomable reason why the fanbase would prefer a giant whale to Kuja, unless you're just assuming the fanbase will vote for Sin because they like FFX better.

Trust me, that ain't gonna happen for Sin.
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"It feels as though the raindrops are blessing our victory." - Kuja
"I never trust a Frenchman." - Revolver Ocelot

Today's poll kinda gives us a clue about the question we were asking today about Sephiroth's magic number of winning brackets. If the results are any indication, he'll have at least 2/3 picking him.
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"It feels as though the raindrops are blessing our victory." - Kuja
"I never trust a Frenchman." - Revolver Ocelot

I think Sin is a tier above Lavos or Mother Brain...

*FFX Spoilers*
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Sin gets much more involved with the story than those other two, is a dungeon in and of itself, and I'm sure many people closely associate Sin with the final boss battle(not Yu Yevon, but Braska's Final Aeon), which is one of the sweetest final boss battles in the FF series. So, in a way, I'm not surprised Sin might've gotten more nominations than Seymoure.

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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
- Darth Vader

I've seen most matches discussed to death now, and I don't imagine we'll get any resolution on any of them before the contest gets going... but one I've not seen mentioned at all is Lavos / L. Snake. Everyone clearly favours Liquid, but could the sheer popularity of Chrono Trigger make this closer than we expect?

Another point: as someone (I forget who, sorry!) pointed out it's been eight years since FF7 was released... is there any sign Sephiroth has slowed in popularity since last year? What if... he doesn't win? Would Ganondorf have it in the bag?

Just putting it out there for the sake of discussing something different.
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Nothing bad will happen now.
Honest.

He hasn't fallen enough to let anyone touch him, no.
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"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
- Darth Vader

this contest starts on my birthday. that means i automatically win, right?
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but one I've not seen mentioned at all is Lavos / L. Snake. Everyone clearly favours Liquid, but could the sheer popularity of Chrono Trigger make this closer than we expect?

Frog is a big fan favorite from Chrono Trigger. Lavos is not a fan favorite; in fact most of Chrono Trigger's fans consider Magus to be a more important and more popular villian that Lavos. so, if Frog could barely beat Liquid, no way is Lavos gonna do it.

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