Contest related PotD today:
Bowser---------------------------6.16%----54
Ganondorf----------------------11.29%---99
Kefka-----------------------------5.47%----48
Sephiroth, by a landslide----50.06%---439
Sephiroth, but it'll be close--17.1%----150
Another character-------------9.92%----87
TOTAL VOTES--------------------------------877
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Trust me, nearly everyone who plays Starcraft multiplayer has played AND beaten the Starcraft and Brood War campaigns. Everyone you talk to on Battle.net knows the main characters of the campaign like Fenix, Zeratul, Raynor, etc. So when it comes to Kerrigan, the biggest of them all, she's no exception.

What about the people who only play casually; the people who only play the UMS map games and have never even tried to play a "real" game before? God knows that there are plenty of those people to go around...

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There's also people who played the missions, but skipped all the briefings and paid no attention to the storyline other than the cinematics. I know I used to do that seven years ago...

But even then I knew who Kerrigan was. And god I've wanted to kill her for years... she really is the Queen ***** of the Universe.
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Sephiroth in a landslide ins winning? BAH GAWD THE UNMITIGATED CARNAGE! THE CARNAGE! IT'S A HUMAN DEMOLITION DERBY!

Perhaps I'm just visiting the wrong topics then. I see a lot of support for Zelda games but not so much for Link himself.

TRE, you know that's false. Link is the closest thing to a perfect machine as we'll ever see in these contests. He never shows a weakness. When he's supposed to beat a character, he slaughters them. The only way to beat him in a standard poll is for Link to be on his worst day, and his opponent to be on his best. He never falters, whereas virtually ever other character has known weaknesses entering polls. I maintain that if Link has a proper picture in 2003, we're looking at an 18-0 record and the death of character battles with Link in them after the Summer 2004 Contest. The guy just doesn't lose matches.

If you're not hearing support from Link's corner, it's because he, unlike every other character to ever grace these contests, doesn't need any.

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Contest related PotD today:

Right, that's a third of all brackets we don't need to worry about :-)
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Today's poll makes me crack a smile, and I feel like ****. Heh...the "Sephiroth, but it'll be close" option is still 7% ahead of every other choice, save "Sephiroth, by a landslide." Funny stuff.
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WTF at today's poll. Aren't brackets still OPEN???? I know it SHOULD be obvious... but the principle behind it all. What if someone DIDN'T know about Sephiroth's popularity? >_<
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"nor Dee Snider Kefka."

Never heard it refered to as that. That's a good one.

Know what's the joke? I don't even know who Dee Snider is. I only saw the name when people referred to Kefka's pic against Crono.

On the whole Master Hand issue, no, it is NOT a joke entry, at least in my book. People were quick to label Duck Hunt a joke entry, and look what it almost did.

at least the possibility of Ridley over Kefka is realistic. Megaman over Link - well, that was insane.

Word.

I see the FFIX hierarchy as Vivi>Kuja>Zidane. In fact I think Beatrix might be stronger than Zidane as well.

Dot dot dot. Only unbelievably cool characters such as Auron, Vivi or KOS-MOS could rank above their respective leads. I wouldn't rank Kuja in that category.

Which reminds me, there was a favorite FF villain poll at some point, right? I'd love to see it again.

And LOL at today's poll...
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Only unbelievably cool characters such as Auron, Vivi or KOS-MOS could rank above their respective leads. I wouldn't rank Kuja in that category.

He is amazingly cool, and the best FF villain, too, Mr. Kefka Fanboy.
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wow. i can' believe only 2/3rds of all people think Sephiroth will win. and those hardcore Kefka fans are nearly keeping him up with Bowser. now, that's dedication!!

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While looking for that poll that Slowflake mentioned, I did find this:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=206

Also:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=365
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=361
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=359
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=358
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=357
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=576
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=577
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=763
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=762
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1178
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1446
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1443
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1573

Is Final Fantasy overrated?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=579

Something random about Majora's Mask:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=334

EA once had respect? O_o
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=471

CJayC sucks for not having Kuja in poll 1446. >_>
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EA once had respect? O_o
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=471

The average voter wouldn't probably know half of those companies.
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If I had to place Ridley, I'd place him at or below Ness. Maybe below, since Ness has SSBM on his side, as well as the Earthbound cult. Ridley has a bunch of people who think of him as little more than a boss fight. About the only people who seem to give a crap about him are Heroic Mario and Ulti, and Ulti's probably picking against Ridley anyway.
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Yes, Ulti is picking against Ridley. Or so he claims. >.> <.<

The average voter wouldn't probably know half of those companies.

I would've thought that they wouldn't know Working Designs too well... Meh.


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CJayC sucks for not having Kuja in poll 1446. >_>


Necron?? wtf? i'm almost surprised Ceej let Kuja in this contest with the reasoning that Necron was the main villain. and even th recent polls still put FFIX at 5th on the FF food chain. heck, even right after it came out, it was barely ahead of FF8.

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I have no proof of this, but I'd bet that it could pull in 9 - 11% again if FFX were taken out. It did dropped to ~5 - 6% after FFX came out.

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Nowadays, Rockstar and Bungie would rape that kind of poll.

And man, does Sephiroth have a huge advantage over Kefka in that poll or what? I think this would've foretold quite well how Kefka would be... and seeing that poll, I'm thinking a lot less about Sin possibly beating Eggman, too.
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People were quick to label Duck Hunt a joke entry, and look what it almost did.

I meant to mention that sometime yesterday, but since Pong was first brought up I went with second-round opponent Tetris instead. Thanks...this isn't to say Kuja will be weak though; it's just that MH will have deceptive strength. Also, before it's said, just because DH lost doesn't make this point invalid.


As for Mumei's 100,000 polls (I kid), I think these are the ones most worth noting...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1446
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1443
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1573

...the first poll makes me think Kuja could be able to beat Sin but not get anywhere near Kefka, even if Kuja is missing from the poll. With the second and third polls though, with FFX being twice as many people's favorite FF game than FF9 twice (I know, one's about .24 off, but the other poll covers that and then some), I think Kuja over Sin is simply unlikely. I know those two polls were just favorites-polls and games =/= characters, but the odds are in Sin's favor there methinks if it happens to be a Sin/Kuja match in the second round.

Of course, I have Dr. Robotnik over Master Hand, so maybe my opinion isn't goin' to be taken the most seriously here.
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Just finished finalizing my entry, but there are a few matches that are really up in the air. The Ruin division is aptly named, as I feel it's going to be the one that ruins most everyone's bracket. As far as the Elite 8 goes, I think 5 of the characters are locks.

Bowser
Revolver Ocelot
Sephiroth
Liquid Snake
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Ganondorf
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The 3 blanks are the tougher ones. Here's how it breaks down:

Kefka or Wesker
Ridley or Diablo or maybe M Bison
Kuja or Sin or maybe Master Hand

Now I think I'm in the minority, but I really think that Kefka is going to have trouble with Wesker. I also think that Diablo is going to pull through and make it. The last pick is what scares me. I'm going with Kuja, but there is this little feeling I have that tells me MH is going to beat him. I know it sounds crazy, but there's just something about SSBM and Nintendo fanboys that worry me.

For the final four there are only 2 matchs in question. Everyone knows that Seph and Ganon are a lock for the finals, but the other two are kind of tricky.

Bowser or Revolver Ocelot
Kefka or Wesker or Ridley or Diablo or maybe M Bison

Again I think I'm in the minority, but I'm really thinking that people are overestimating Bowser. I think Revolver could take this and screw up a lot of people. The next final four contestant is tough though. I could see all of those character take the spot, but I'm leaning towards Wesker or Diablo. Really tough to choose, but I went with Diablo.

I probably have way too many risky picks, but whatever. So anyone got any comments?

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Eggman's the biggest worry Kuja's going to have. Count on it.
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I think Wesker is going to struggle with Luca, to the point where I'm tempted to pick Luca Blight as another upset and I'm confident that the winner of the two is going to be the weakest character in Round 2.
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If Revolver beats Bowser, it'll be because Revolver's under-estimated and not 'cuz Bowser's over-estimated. Liquid is just barely stronger than Bowser ACCORDING TO THE STATS, and he's controversial enough when you consider his name having Snake in it and him doing better in the final hours against Frog than Solid did. I don't see Revolver being able to match Liquid's strength wherever he's at, and even if he does, I'd still give Bowser a close win over Liquid.

Ridley >or= Diablo >or= Kefka >or= M. Bison > Wesker, methinks. No, I didn't leave out any "or="'s by accident either; Wesker'll do pretty good against Kefka, but victory shalt not be had.
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Dr. Robotnik is Kuja's biggest possible threat in his four-pack, I'll agree, but I ain't confident that Kuja will get his shot at him to begin with.
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>_> Um...this topic shouldn't be considering Master Hand a joke, at least not a joke of CATS or Tanner level.
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Hmm... So if you think it will be a close match between Kefka and Wesker, does that mean if Wesker does manage a victory he would be better than Ridley or Diablo? Or is Ridley/Diablo stronger than both?

I really think Ocelot is going to beat Bowser, but it's so tough to say considering he's never beat anyone yet. Maybe I should just be safe and say Bowser. Hm... this one is going to be tough.

Oh and I forgot about Robotnik. That's a tough match too, but I think Sin has the whole FF thing to work with. Plus I've never personally like Eggman.

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I consider Master Hand a joke because it's a hand. I also can't see Sin, Lavos and Motherbrain strong either because even if they are from popular games, who would vote for them?
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Not necessarily close, but Wesker'll do better than 40%...I'm guessing 43%, but I could be wrong. If he beats Kefka, I'll take it as Wesker being stronger than I thought...but he'd have to beat Kefka by more than a percent or two if he wants to beat Ridley, I think.
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Wesker will barely avoid getting doubled by Kefka. And, yes, I realize how weak that makes Wesker.
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I'm very interested to see how Mother Brain does, personally; I'm actually kinda hyped about its match with Lavos, just to see how they compare. I hardly care for either one though, too, so I can't be hyped that much.....
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 4/14/2005 12:30:04 PM | #227
I also can't see Sin, Lavos and Motherbrain strong either because even if they are from popular games, who would vote for them?

My thoughts exactly. Lavos will only win a match because he's against Mother Brain, and he has bigger storyline implications and presence than MB.

Master Hand CANNOT beat Kuja. Ness is an example of a character that gets a lot of his power through SSBM, and I can't see him beating Kuja. Master Hand can only be weaker than Ness.
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That'd put Wesker on about Abe's level. That's...a lil' low, and with RE4 resparking the flare for the series, I think it'd be safe to give Wesker the benefit of the doubt for more credit than THAT.
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Wesker is not, to my knowledge anyway, featured in RE4, save for a minigame or two. I don't see how that would help him.
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Wow, I guess I'm severely overrating Wesker due to my love for the RE series. Guess I'll tone him down a bit and give Kefka the win. After that though, I am standing by my Diablo victory. If he can beat Ridley than he will make the final 4.

Man, the 4 pack of Sin/Robotnik/Kuja/MH is killing me. I'm not sure what to do. There are strong arguements on every side, but I think it's safe to say that MH has the least chance of victory so that leaves just Sin/Robotnik. Since that's up in the air, then I'll go Kuja over either of the two, just to be safer. Don't want a character losing in the first round that I expected to win at least 2 matches. Hmm... Sin or Robotnik... A giant whale-blob or an actual character... An FF character or Sonic... hm...

*Head explodes*

Enough about that for now. I also am curious to see the Lavos/Mother Brain match. I was tempted to put M Brain because I thought it would be more recognizable, but in the end I just went with CT.

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squiroffle.

Oh, and that would stick him close to Laharl, not Abe, Harrich.
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Personally, I'm not sure that Wesker will survive his encounter with Luca Blight. Not very many people have played Suikoden II, but the few who have were fanatically devoted enough to get it into the Best Games contest, and have it garner a decent number of votes against even Final Fantasy 7. Resident Evil characters have never done very well in these tournaments, and neither did the game. I see Luca deserving the higher seed and walking away with the victory. I think Ridley can top Diablo because of the two new Metroid games that came out recently, but I do agree that whoever comes out of that match is going to the Final Four.
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Ness isn't too far away from Kefka, and I'm now 'bout convinced Kuja wouldn't match up to Kefka's strength much more than Ness probably would, if any. Plus, I already know this is going to garner some funny views and maybe a flame, but Master Hand has room to be stronger than Ness. Call it an unusual hunch, but Ness was a secret character in SSB (Remember arguements about Vincent? Apply here in a less extreme fashion) and nothing special in SSBM. Add to it how often single-player has been played despite it being mainly a multi-player game...and I dare call Master Hand charismatic, too; I believe it'll be hard to find many SSB/M fans who didn't enjoy beating him down from 300 HP, glove and all. Meanwhile, Ness, while good in SSB, is nothing special like I already said in SSBM and hardly draws much attention to have people notice him this time, even if he's seen from the beginning. Of course, it helped him, but I figure it'll help MH more than it did Ness considering he already had a game, at least...

...and yes, I know Ness has his own game, but I really doubt Earthbound makes for much of his strength; it's nothing MH couldn't make up for, anyways. EB is cult to the tenth power and is either loved or hated by the ones who have ended up playing it, and I think MH is more memorable than Ness in SSB/M (at least SSBM, and if memory serves me right, you have to beat MH with everyone else in SSB before you get Ness...please correct me if I'm wrong there though), even if the game is more multi-player oriented...enough to even make up for his lack of a game.
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Ah, Laharl's pretty darn stinky too, heh. I don't see Wesker being that low either, though being below Jill 2k4 is pretty sure to happen I believe.
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"Remember arguements about Vincent?"

Remember they prove nothing? Seriously, don't base your theories on something that has never been proven in the slightest.

"EB is cult to the tenth power"

And how has ever been stopped by that? Ness is still drawing most of his power from EB, I guarentee it.
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In the slightest? You could mention HK-47 and how he bombed (though he was hardly a secret and SW:KotOR isn't meant to be of the FF7 level). If they weren't such trashy fodder, maybe the gap between Tom Nook and Mr. Resetti would be worth noting. Regardless, we definitely shouldn't be basing any theories just off of that, but that is something that slightly helps the theory whereas there's been nothing to detest it yet except "Think about how popular FF7 is" so far. Merely no more than food for thought though; almost everything I said isn't worth lookin' into much for now.

As for Ness gettin' most of his strength from EB, meh. Agree to disagree.
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I think Kuja can beat Kefka. The sole fact that he beat Seymour and Seifer to the contest scares me a little. Besides, if Kuja really is weaker than Kefka, then I can't see how he'd beat Eggman.
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then I can't see how he'd beat Eggman.

He won't, nor will he beat Sin.
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Either Robotnik or Sin will come out of that four-pack, I think. Either one of them should beat either Kuja or MH.
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And Seifer probably wasn't eligible. Seymour had to split noms with Sin and Jecht (probably) whereas Kuja probably didn't have to split noms with anyone significant (though I haven't finished FFIX.)
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I personally don't see how Sin could've managed to beat Seymour and Jecht... heck, the board favored Seymour by a landslide.
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I think Kuja can beat Kefka. The sole fact that he beat Seymour and Seifer to the contest scares me a little. Besides, if Kuja really is weaker than Kefka, then I can't see how he'd beat Eggman.

I think you are underestimating Kefka, I can't see Dr Robotnik being close to Knuckles and Kefka did much better than expected when he faced Knuckles.

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"You could mention HK-47 "

Who relates in no way possible to Vincent. And yes, "Think about how popular FF7 is" is the only thing that needs to be said. I think this summer, given this villain contest, we may simply have "hero" contest instead of a villain contest and Vincent should be a legitimate entry (he is one of the heroes) so we may well see how strong he is.

I think Seymour had to have been ineligible. There's absolutely no way Sin gets more nominations. And Jecht, well, I was sure he'd be ineligible from the beginning, so that's that.
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