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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 107
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:39:34 PM | Message Detail
I am confident enough that Ridley won’t beat Kefka

I would thoroughly enjoy seeing you play FFIX again - I loathe the game as well. I'll refrain from putting you through such pain, though. You know, since you'll be wrong and all. =)

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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:41:08 PM | Message Detail
The biggest blowout will probably be Bowser/Pyramid Head. Liquid/Tenpenny will also be a huge blowout, but not as big as Bowser/Pyramid or Ganon/Giygas.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:42:20 PM | Message Detail
I would thoroughly enjoy seeing you play FFIX again - I loathe the game as well. I'll refrain from putting you through such pain, though. You know, since you'll be wrong and all. =)

I think you should be forced to play through it, if you are wrong. FFIX was excellent.

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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:44:56 PM | Message Detail
Totally agree... FFIX kicked ass, and Zidane is one of the most underappreciated protagonists around here.

And I don't think Liquid/Tenpenny will be a big blowout, simply because GTA has too much support to get the 15-20% I am expecting out of Ramirez and Giygas. I think doubling TenPenny would be the absolutely ceiling for Liquid, with 60/40 much more in the ballpark.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:46:47 PM | Message Detail
I see Liquid/Tenpenny easily being a 65-35 match...not much more, not much less.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:50:37 PM | Message Detail
The largest blowout will be Sephiroth/Ramirez, where Ramirez only gets 15%.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:51:52 PM | Message Detail
FFIX was excellent.

Yeah, and Big Rigs was a flawless game. <.<

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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:54:24 PM | Message Detail
The largest blowout will be Sephiroth/Ramirez, where Ramirez only gets 15%.

Considering that Vyse got 18% on Cloud, I sincerely doubt that.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 4/13/2005 3:54:44 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, and Big Rigs was a flawless game. <.<

No, but FFIX was excellent. Not my fault that you don't recognize the best Playstation FF...
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:07:50 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, FF9 was good. I'll make a replay FF9 bet with someone.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:09:23 PM | Message Detail
The best PlayStation FF was FF7, not FF9.


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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:13:29 PM | Message Detail
FF7 did indeed rule, but I can't say anything about the FF series except for FF7 and FF3/6...and the original FF too, which sucked hard.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:18:49 PM | Message Detail
The original was quite fun back in the day... it's just bad by modern standards.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:19:46 PM | Message Detail
I couldn't enjoy it much then or now. *shrugs*
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From: meche313 | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:22:48 PM | Message Detail
The largest blowout will be Sephiroth/Ramirez, where Ramirez only gets 15%.

Completely wrong, in my opinion.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:28:57 PM | Message Detail
If it was just the names "Diablo" and "Ridley" on the poll, there's no way in hell he'd win. Unless you scan him during his battle in Prime (and scanning him is optional), he's never even named in-game.

IIRC, ALL the main bosses were named, even if it was only by their health bar while you fight them. Ridley's also referred to in some of the other scans, but you're likely to miss them if you're the type that wouldn't scan Ridley anyway.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:31:18 PM | Message Detail
Only Sephiroth/Ramirez and Ganondorf/Giygas have potential for such huge blow-outs, methinks...and they'll probably be pretty close, too; Bowser SFF'd Ness who had SSB and SSBM on his side...what keeps Ganondorf from SFF'ing Giygas who hasn't had SSB or SSBM on his side? Of course, that point is about as important as if Mario SFF'd Captain Olimar or not...but it should definitely bring the spread to Cloud/Vyse percents. I suspect Sephiroth will beat Ramirez a lil' worse than Cloud/Vyse was, so I'll give him the biggest blow-out of the contest: 82.5% in Sephy's favor.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:31:57 PM | Message Detail
And here I thought I was being rather generous to poor Ramirez. Do you guys think he's a strong as Vyse or something?
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From: KrusTy the KloWn | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:34:06 PM | Message Detail
I'm sorry, but there is too much babbling about matches I don't care about in this topic because I have already locked my picks on those.

...Except for Sin Vs. Robotnik and the follow-up match from that one.

I chose Sin over Robotnik because the Sonic series is not that strong in this contest. Sonic seems to not even be top 12 worthy in the character battles anymore and FFX already triumphed over anything Sonic when Tidus toppled Shadow.

Now, I have never participated in one of these topics before, so excuse any ignorance that I have already shown. Continuing...

I think picking Sin over Kuja is a lot easier than going either way if it were to be Robotnik Vs. Kuja, meaning my first round pick may be just serving as a security blanket for the second round. But if that security blanket unravels in the first round, I'm hurting come round 2.

So, I have Sin over Kuja for the simple fact that FFX has had two potential third-rounders for two years now. FFIX had Vivi one year who likely filled out as much potential as she ever will in defeating DK.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:35:31 PM | Message Detail
I really liked VII and IX... is there some rule that only allows us to like one Playstation Final Fantasy title???

And it is definitely reasonable to put the benchmark around 18%, as we have no reason to not suspect Vyse is to Cloud what Ramirez is to Sephiroth, with marginal error.

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From: Mumei | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:36:06 PM | Message Detail
I really liked VII and IX... is there some rule that only allows us to like one Playstation Final Fantasy title???

Of course not. It's just that IX was the best of them. =P

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:36:32 PM | Message Detail
Name me 12 characters stronger than Sonic. I can't think of more than 9, and even that's stretching it with the last 2.

FFIX had Vivi one year who likely filled out as much potential as she ever will in defeating DK.

0_o
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:37:26 PM | Message Detail
...Vivi's a she? No way...

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:37:46 PM | Message Detail
I chose Sin over Robotnik because the Sonic series is not that strong in this contest. Sonic seems to not even be top 12 worthy in the character battles anymore and FFX already triumphed over anything Sonic when Tidus toppled Shadow.

Don't kid yourself there.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:37:46 PM | Message Detail
Sephiroth is really, really close to Cloud. I think it's unreasonable to think any villains in this contest (save Liquid; he's about the same distance away as Seph) are as close to their heroes as Sephiroth is.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 4:39:11 PM | Message Detail
Given that Sephiroth is weaker than Cloud, and Ramirez should be weaker than Vyse - although I wouldn't suspect by very much - then what you projected shouldn't be to bad.

The fact that Ramirez cannot even get 25% brings extreme amounts of pain to my heart. ;_;

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From: cyko | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:09:21 PM | Message Detail
Bowser vs Pyramid Head will be the biggest blow-out. Pyramid Head will be the most inknown and unrecognizable villain in this contest. he's the one guy i would be tempted to pick CATS over.

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:25:23 PM | Message Detail
Bowser/PH, Ganon/Giygas and HM's favorite match could all be the biggest blowout, though I'm hoping it's the third >=D
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:27:25 PM | Message Detail
CATS couldn't break 20% on Ryu, and Boswer's just a touch weaker than him (though I'd still give him the win). Pyramid Head would have to be a good bit weaker than CATS to break the distance Cloud made with Vyse (which was an 81-19 affair, give or take a lil'), and I find it likely that both Sephy/Ramirez and Ganon/Giygas will have bigger differences than that, or at least equal ones...

...so Pyramid Head would be THAT much weaker than CATS?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:28:10 PM | Message Detail
though I'm hoping it's the third >=D

You're so evil. ;_;

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:29:42 PM | Message Detail
Sephiroth/Ramirez should be big. Ganondorf/Giygas too. But Bowser/Pyramid Head is the only one with 90%+ potential. I mean, how much weaker than Guybrush is PH?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:30:54 PM | Message Detail
...so Pyramid Head would be THAT much weaker than CATS?

At least there are people who would vote for CATS. Pyramid Head is about as weak as a contestant as you can possibly get.

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:31:57 PM | Message Detail
And by that I mean that CATS is at least liked by some people for his horrible language. Hell, I would honestly take CATS over Pyramid Head. . .

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:32:22 PM | Message Detail
Pyramid Head would have to be between than Serious Sam and Ms. Pac Man (about 6.2% on 2k3 Link) to allow Bowser to get 90% on him. That's about 30% on Guybrush.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:32:59 PM | Message Detail
oh, oh, just reading some hate on ffix. I never played the actual game, but that hot or cold minigame was AWESOME.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:35:04 PM | Message Detail
For some reason I could see Pyramid Head meeting this standard of suckitude.
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:36:40 PM | Message Detail
There's no telling what Ganon will do to Giygas though; I was conservative with my guess...but I'll say it again: if Bowser could SFF Ness pretty hard when he was the star of a cult game and had SSB and SSBM on his side, imagine what damage Ganondorf could SFF Giygas with when he was merely the villain of Ness's game and has neither SSB or SSBM on his side. Even if PH does bomb harder than I expect (though I feel good about saying PH > Guybrush), Ganon/Giygas could explode in terms of the spread between them.
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:38:16 PM | Message Detail
Oh, heh, I guarantee PH > Serious Sam and/or Ms. Pac-Man. No question in my mind...at all. He's gonna be weak, sure, but not THAT weak.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:38:19 PM | Message Detail
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:38:35 PM | Message Detail
It feels so wrong to see people saying that Ganondorf will be the one dishing out the SFF.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:38:50 PM | Message Detail
I've at least seen some PH support on this board though... no support for Giygas save Lucid Faia.
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From: H__RR____H | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:38:52 PM | Message Detail
Imagine if it was Link/Giygas...heh.
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From: SonikkuGBA | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:39:09 PM | Message Detail
diablo will NOT ANY match
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From: SonikkuGBA | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:39:42 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:39:52 PM | Message Detail
No, it feels orgasmic to see Earthbound get its rightful retribution for taking away hours of my life I'll never have back.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:42:26 PM | Message Detail
Magus > Samus > Link

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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:42:46 PM | Message Detail
So, will Giygas or Pyramid Head rival Tanner as the most pathetic entry ever?
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From: SonikkuGBA | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:42:48 PM | Message Detail
Giygas was a....weird...boss though. Especially when he was talking to himself saying stuff like *ittt feeeeelsss sooo goooodddd*

sheesh
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:42:58 PM | Message Detail
YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE NATURE OF GIYGAS' ATTACK!
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 4/13/2005 5:42:59 PM | Message Detail
Ansem will beat Ganondorf.
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