Bowser certainly is not a lock for the final four for me. I wouldn't be suprised if either Sigma or Ocelot took him down.
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Preparedness prevents piss poor performance.
No-shows

Kefka vs. Wesker and Lavos vs. Liquid make me think a little, as well.

I wonder if Lavos would be anywhere close to Frog.
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Preparedness prevents piss poor performance.
No-shows

Okay, I just arrived, and I haven't read anything yet, so I'll comment on the bracket as I fill it, fresh from my brain. Heck, I didn't even read a potential CJayC topic.

- Looks like it's 32 villains after all. Good thinking.

- Pyramid Head got in? Color me surprised. No, really.

- Sigma vs. Andross? A bit tough, but I think Sigma can do it. I mean, Fox is a midpacker at best, and Andross is sure to be lower than that.

- No Final 4 for Ocelot. That's a definite.

- Ocelot/Wily in round 2? This has potential. Picking Ocelot though.

- Cloud/Vyse, the dark incarnation. How... fitting.

- Vergil is from DMC, right? If so, Ghaleon is toast.

- Lavos/Mother Brain? Ouch. I'm picking Lavos right now, but the contrary is certainly possible.

- No Final 4 for Liquid Snake either...

- KEFKA A TOP SEED W00T

- Wesker/Luca could be interesting, but I'm banking on the splash made by RE4 to put Wesker over.

- Albedo/Bison? Hardest match so far. I sincerely don't know who to pick, but if KOS-MOS/Ryu is any indication... *picks Bison*

- OMG THIS RULES DIABLO IS IN!!!!!!!!!!! To job in the first round. Boo.

- The last division is easy. Ganondorf, Ansem, Eggman, Kuja.

- No Seymour or Seifer, and SIN of all people got in? Shocker.

- NO KERRIGAN, and Diablo made it in? CJay got some explaining to do... unless he already did it.

- No clones, no Mario... some people will be happy.

- Two tough matches in round 2: Albedo or Bison vs. Ridley, and Eggman/Kuja. Picked the latter in each case.

- Division finals... the only one that's interesting is Albedo/Bison/Ridley vs. Kefka, and I picked Kefka. The Ruin division is definitely the hardest to predict.

- Pretty obvious from there.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan

Eggman/Kuja was the hardest for me as well, the rest I had already made a decision on when CJayC released the pre-brackets.
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Just got done with the catching-up, and it looks like I'm severely underestimating Diablo. Whatever. Yes, his half of the division will be an absolute **** to predict. And if what people say about the big D is true, we won't even have that freebie Goldeneye/PDS or Alucard/Bomberman gave us. Ouch.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan

Just by a quick glace at the bracket, is it possible that Mithos may have a shot at Kefka? Tales is pretty popular here, but I don't know how much of that would carry over to him...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Oh, goddamn. Diablo might beat Ridley, now that I'm looking at it again. Argh.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

- NO KERRIGAN, and Diablo made it in? CJay got some explaining to do... unless he already did it.

Stop reminding me...

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Vexilla regis prodeunt Inferni. ~ Dante Alighieri

I noticed some debate over Lavos vs. Mother Brain way back on the third page. My two cents:

Mother Brain is just the monster you face at the end of three of the games. Aside from the poorly-translated four-line plot summary at the title screen of the original Metroid, it's never even named in-game.

Lavos, on the other hand, is a constant threat throughout Chrono Trigger. Add in that CT is way more popular than Metroid on this site, and I don't see where the trouble with this match is coming from.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I'm having trouble with matches where I didn't know one of the characters, because I think to myself, "If I didn't know who ____ was, then most other people won't." Then I remember that I don't own a PS2, so I wouldn't know some of the characters on PS2-exclusive games.

Still, setting aside my personal bias is a pain.
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Vexilla regis prodeunt Inferni. ~ Dante Alighieri

Hmmmm, I'm still having a toss-up between Diablo and Ridley. I think whoever wins that one takes the division. I'm sure Ridley is well known, and likewise for Diablo, so I'm fairly certain that they would be stronger than Kefka. We KNOW how strong Kefka is and it shouldn't take much to beat him. If Diablo were to beat Ridley, it would be a testament to his strength rather than Ridley being weak. That match truly is the devil.....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

personal bias a pain? tell me about it. i want Ghaleon and Luca to win a match so badly, but my brain is smacking me back to my senses.

also, i can't believe how many people are serious about CATS taking down Ansem. methinks the CATS army is a little too excited over CATS getting the weakest matchup he will ever face. i seriously doubt CATS will ever be able to break 20,000 votes against anyone unless it's some character that absolutely NOONE has ever heard of AND looks reallly lame (like maybe Mr.Driller or Tanner). so, unless this match draws under 40,000 votes, CATS can make his own friggin' time right now.

on a side note, i for one don't plan on dispensing any reasoning on any matches in any other topic besides this one. not that anyone considers me an all-knowing bracket-picker or anything, but i really don't see the point of helping other people who don't want to fill out their brackets themselves. this topic has always been different, though. these discussions are more about calling the upsets and picking the close matches before anyone else than trying to help each other fill out our brackets.

if people out there really wanna take CATS to Round 2, then fine. let 'em.

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Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!

My other toss-up in this contest is the strength of Kuja. Having slight problems with his potential match against Dr. Robotnik. How close is Robotnik to Tails? How close is Kuja to Kefka?
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

How close is Robotnik to Tails? How close is Kuja to Kefka?

I would say that the weakest Robotnik could be is level with Tails. Also isn't Kuja in FFIX?
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Despite Albedo having a real shot at the Elite 8, he's the only one in that half-division with no shot at taking down Kefka. Ridley has the potential. Diablo has the potential. Bison has the potential. That logic having paid off before, that's why I have Albedo losing in round 1.

And then there's Diablo. We've covered extensively how it wouldn't take much for Kerrigan to lose, so why should Diablo be any different? Well, his name's the name of the game, and he's much more important to the game than Kerrigan in the sense that Kerrigan is nonexistent in multiplayer. So B.net spamming could wind up being more effective for Big D than it would for Kerrigan. Add to that Diabloii.net having no problem whatsoever with advertising the D2 matches in the Gamespy contest last year, and you have something that could either be Ganondorf's opponent in the semis, or free food for Ridley to chew on.

I think any topics containing the words "Ridley", "Diablo", "Bison" and "Albedo" will be as heated as they come.
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SpC2K5 Elite 8
BOWSER, Ocelot, SEPHIROTH, Liquid Snake, KEFKA, Ridley, GANONDORF, Kuja

Yeah, I know that Kuja is in FFIX. It's my second favorite FF game behind FFVI. I'm thinking he may be closer to Kefka than one might think... Exactly how much of a casual appeal do you think Kuja has? In that sense, he is no Sephiroth. Don't get it twisted. But I would think he has more appeal than Kefka. But I feel he is MUCH closer to Kefka than Sephiroth. That isn't saying much though.

My whole toss-up is how popular is Robotnik? He's the boss for virtually EVERY Sonic level. His face is all over the Sonic series, from games to television. He's BOUND to pick up some casual appeal. Now about comparing him to Tails. It's not like Tails is weak or disliked... he's just had hella competition in the contests. I would think that Tails is more popular than Robotnik....

BUT I wouldn't be surprised IF Robotnik did take Kuja....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Oh, there's no debate whatsoever in my opinion when it comes to Bison vs. Albedo. Slowflake just laid down my logic for that whole division. And DON'T let the seedings fool you. This was a short nomination period, and it wasn't even advertised fully. The voters don't care about seeding....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

*tag*
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What's wrong with the world these days is people don't have any common sense...
*Is KillerCrono599*

I'm assuming diablo does in fact defeat ridley...but can he beat Bison?

And how about Wily//Ocelot? I've seen no strong argument in favor of either, and my current leaning is Dr Wily...

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--'nuff said--

If Diablo can beat Ridley, I wouldn't be overly worried about Bison.
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SpC2K5 Elite 8
BOWSER, Ocelot, SEPHIROTH, Liquid Snake, KEFKA, Ridley, GANONDORF, Kuja

Dam the bracket is up already before I could defend my noms...oh well :) Dr. Wily and Sigma are in and will each win at least once..so 2 outta 10 aint bad.

I will 'speak' more later after I carefully analyze the bracket, run it under an oscillascope and through an electron microscope to analyze its textures and surface qualities...

But I think it will be challenging, and I like 32..it speeds it up nicely...and CATS will lose again...so all is well.
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SP2K Dream Final: Dr. Wily vs Kefka
Read Steve Illumina Speaks!

But then if I do that and ridley wins I'm screwed. Its really hard right there to be able to say someone *will* win in round 1, but then also *will* lose in round 2 >_>...

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--'nuff said--

I'm assuming diablo does in fact defeat ridley...but can he beat Bison?

Yes, Ridley/Diablo match could decide the division.

And how about Wily//Ocelot? I've seen no strong argument in favor of either, and my current leaning is Dr Wily...

I don't know both are fairly known villians from their games.
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Speaking of CATS, I wonder how he'll do in the easiest match-up he'll ever have.
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SpC2K5 Elite 8
BOWSER, Ocelot, SEPHIROTH, Liquid Snake, KEFKA, Ridley, GANONDORF, Kuja

I give him 30-35% Slow
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SP2K Dream Final: Dr. Wily vs Kefka
Read Steve Illumina Speaks! Pub Trivian Forever

Ansem wasn't exactly the greatest villain ever, but KH will give him much namesake ^_^. Not to mention hes CATS and not even his awesome scripting will earn hima match.

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--'nuff said--

From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/12/2005 8:53:01 AM | Message Detail
If Diablo can beat Ridley, I wouldn't be overly worried about Bison.

My thoughts exactly. CATS? Do you actually think he'll get over 20000 votes? The same people that vote CATS before will still vote for him, but I highly doubt that he would draw any other voters if his opponent is even SLIGHTLY popular.

Another thought. Can Luca Blight become this year's Vyse? Meaning that since he now has a little bit of contest recognizability that he might be able to win a match?
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I was just thinkin' 'bout that too. Could we possibly find somebody that couldn't double CATS? I got a question though: who's about strong enough to just double CATS, anyways? It's hard for me to get a great guess on that...Ness, maybe?

Ridley/Diablo is beginning to scare me more and more, too. Grr, I'm gonna have to do some big-time thinking.
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Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.

Vyse still did decent against DK the year before though. Magus stomped a mudhole into Luca...I know Magus is alot stronger than DK, but Vyse still impressed me more.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.

I'll post here what i posted in another topic, my Diablo//Ridley thoughts...


One thing you need to pay attention to are the people who just visit gamefaqs on a regular basis. The people who visit "Game" "FAQs" to find FAQs for games!

So please go to the Diablo II LoD message board(s).... Over 20 combined pages! That is more than triple all the metroid topics combined!

That is just part of my logic however. If you will now turn your attention to the top 50 FAQs list, you might notice that Diablo II: LoD is sitting comfortably at 37th! And how many days has Diablo II been on the chart? well over 1300! This shows to me that there are casual visitors EVERY DAY that log on looking for diablo information. These people will almost certainly vote for Diablo. Also, there are only 2 games currently on the chart that have more days on the chart than does Diablo II (although FFX is a mere 4 days behind making that basically a tie). Those two games are The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Final Fantasy VII.

Casual visitors are Diablo fans, and casual visitors will vote for Diablo.


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--'nuff said--

Pokemon was number 1 for a while

RPG or stratagy type games require people to look at a FAQ every time they get stuck
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this topic went from completely Pro-Ridley to mostly pro-Diablo...
Come on guys, go with Ridley, Diablo's my upset special...
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle)
SC2k4 - 12th place!

Ridley is beating Kefka 55%+

Diablo IMO is overrated like most things blizzard after Starcraft
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Nope. If I get it, I will be the one to do an UltimaterializerX style analysis a la Halo/Starcraft! But for now I am shushing on my bracket... I've already said too much.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

'Pokemon was number 1 for a while

RPG or stratagy type games require people to look at a FAQ every time they get stuck'


Yes, RPG's do require people to FAQ when they get stuck.

And when they get stuck they come to GameFAQs.com.

SOmetimes, there is a contest running and they will vote in it. It shouldn't be surprising then when RPGs do better in contests like this, because there are more RPG fans visiting the site. (Take in point the fact that cloud and sephiroth do so well, and that FFVII was voted the best game ever on this site.)

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--'nuff said--

Man.. this contest is hard...

A little bit of help guys.. Um.. Dr. Wily will beat Ultros for sure right?

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~ExquisiteSamurai~

It'll be hard for me to buy Dr. Wily being weaker than an adjusted Protoman (though the stats don't have him adjusted at all, I think) or that Ultros is too close to Kefka. Add 'em together, and Dr. Wily is plenty reasonable.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
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Man.. this contest is really screwing my mind.. I just can't seem to pick a clear winner on some of the matches.. and there are quite a few.. sighzz

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~ExquisiteSamurai~

The bottom half of the bracket is killer. The top half of the bracket is meh. The Final Four of the bracket will be meh, too...but for about half of this contest, this contest will completely rule.
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Man.. we don't have a clear knowledge on a lot of them..

Diablo.. I just can't seem to overcome his match with Ridley

Dr. Wily.. I don't think he's all that cut out as people say he is..

Ridley.. Is he really that strong?? .. Man.. I am ****ed..

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~ExquisiteSamurai~

Dr. Wily is tougher than Ridley IMO, he has his 1st round won, not very sure about Ridley...

Ridley and Diablo are racking my mind up to this point. As for Wily, I have him going down to Ocelot, and am fairly confident in that.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Then again though, to be fair, Diablo > Ultros. In a Wily/Ridley match, heh, I'd tear my hair out over that...and barely pick Ridley.
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I'd pick Wily =)

Wily > Ultros
Wily > Ocelot (I think...)

Diablo > Ridley
Diablo > Bison (I think...)

I'm almost positive on the first round wins, but its the second round that worries me...

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--'nuff said--

The Ridley/Diablo winner should easily have enough to stomp Bison.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

SMRPG > SFII

and the fact that there have been no successful fighting game characters leads me to believe that Diablo should indeed beat both of them, so I'm really more worried about Wily > Ocelot..

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--'nuff said--

I think Bison will put up a fight but he probbaly won't have enough to take down Diablo/Ridley

Dr.Wily vs. Ocelot.. I am kind of stumped on this one too.. I am leaning towards Ocelot right now

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~ExquisiteSamurai~

if (wily == megaman && ocelot == snake){
cout << "Wily wins";
}
else {
cout << "Ocelot wins";
}


what do you guys think?
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CATS deserves your vote.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Dr. Wily in 2k5
Meanwhile, sit back and enjoy the contest-hype.