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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 104
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:04:02 AM | Message Detail
Feces Link? XD

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Tai | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:27:37 AM | Message Detail
My name's not in here, and I definitely signed in. Why?

Fine, I'll do it again. -__-'

1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - Redtooth
71 - Blade X
72 - TheCalmness
73 - Qwaar
74 - Tai

I'd love to go home now and update on my topic, but I have to go out to Bowling...see ya.
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PETITION: Ability to preview contests to moderators before posting it. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=19643565 (120 Signs!)
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:44:22 AM | Message Detail
I think you guys are overestimating the potential leeching that a "dark clone" would get. We've had three "clones" so far in summer matches -- Shadow the Hedgehog, Liquid Snake, and Wario. I'm not qualified to talk about Shadow, but from what I'm told, he has a personality and backstory separate from Sonic. Liquid Snake is an excellent villain in his own right, and his ranking so close to Solid Snake can partially be explained by something going wrong in Solid/Frog. I'm pretty sure something did go wrong, because Liquid performed better than Solid at night. And even if that was Solid at full strength, that would mean that Liquid draws on a different demographic than Solid, so he's really not leeching that much. He's established his own popularity, separate from Solid, if that is the case. Then we have Wario, who began as a simple palette swap of Mario and has developed his own personality. He's nowhere near Mario in terms of strength.

So Wario already proves that dark clones don't necessarily leech most of the strength from their dark counterparts. So, I ask you this. Why would Dark Link leech more strength off of Link than Ganondorf would? Is a name and picture worth more than a resume spanning the entire series? We know franchise votes exist, and it is for this reason that Dark Link would get some support, but, as seen in Sp2k4, they don't equal instant win. I don't follow the logic that dictates that, because Dark Link looks like/shares a name with Link, he'd be able to get more of Link's voters than Ganondorf.

More or less the same deal with Dark Samus. We know that neither Prime is especially popular on this site, and Echoes is probably less popular than the original Prime. I think it is somewhat unlikely for the majority of the voters to know who Dark Samus is, and what it truly represents. With that backstory out of the way, all she is a recolor of Samus, and I don't think voters will be all that inclined to vote for a simple recolor. We're of the opinion that Ridley isn't all that strong; why would Dark Samus, who's appeared in one game that wasn't extrordinarily well received, be stronger than the defining boss of the Metroid series? It just doesn't make sense to me.

Hmm...I wrote far more than I intended to.
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"My name is Guybrush Threepwood. Prepare to die!"
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:46:55 AM | Message Detail
The reason that more support will leech RPGuy, is that the clones counter-parts arnt here at all, and thus the dark or shadow characters will be used to substitute.
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:50:16 AM | Message Detail
The reason that more support will leech RPGuy, is that the clones counter-parts arnt here at all, and thus the dark or shadow characters will be used to substitute.

What basis do you have for that? Are voters going to say to themselves, "Well, I like Link more than Liquid Snake, whom I like more than a recolor of Link, but since Link isn't actually in the contest I'm going to vote for Dark Link in his stead. Even though I like Liquid more." We've guessed that removing Link or Cloud wouldn't transfer any of their support to Samus or Sephiroth; why would this case be any different?
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"My name is Guybrush Threepwood. Prepare to die!"
From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:50:43 AM | Message Detail
I'll have fun doing the eliminations from the start this year.

1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - Redtooth
71 - Blade X
72 - TheCalmness
73 - Qwaar
74 - Tai
75 - Lieutenant Kettch
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/7/2005 11:52:11 AM | Message Detail
Maybe I shouldve made it clear that its just a theory, and we are no more certain that it will happen then we are that it won't. Don't think the possibilities not there.
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: neoatomtaco | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:09:47 PM | Message Detail
1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - Redtooth
71 - Blade X
72 - TheCalmness
73 - Qwaar
74 - Tai
75 - Lieutenant Kettch
76 - Neoatomtaco


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MEATWADD SUXS
Trivia 13 champion & self proclaimed MVP!
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:19:48 PM | Message Detail
I highly doubt that Shadow Link will be allowed anyway. He's not a villain. Just a boss fight.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:27:05 PM | Message Detail
I think boss fights are allowed anyway, though I'm not 100% sure on this.

And, while I think Dark Samus would probably beat Ridley both directly and indirectly, I'm not so sure about Dark Link, because he's nothing more than a shell in the end.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:29:00 PM | Message Detail
Eh, but it's a villain contest, not a boss contest. There's a difference.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:31:35 PM | Message Detail
Eh, but it's an antagonist contest, not a villian contest. There's a difference.

>.>
<.<
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:34:55 PM | Message Detail
Dark Link is the final boss in Zelda 2 anyway, so maybe...

According to Tai's topic, Dark Samus' support is strong enough that she's a lock for the contest if she's eligible and nothing transpires on the front page. Dark Link's not too far behind, Metal Sonic and Mario are pretty low, borderline even.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: ScorpionX3 | Posted: 4/7/2005 12:36:06 PM | Message Detail
dunno what im adding my name into but it sounds fun ^_^

1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - ChichiriMuyo
70 - Redtooth
71 - Blade X
72 - TheCalmness
73 - Qwaar
74 - Tai
75 - Lieutenant Kettch
76 - Neoatomtaco
77 - ScorpionX3
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Most people are so ungrateful to be alive, but not you, not anymore...
From: Kaxon | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:00:45 PM | Message Detail
Is "Metal Sonic" the one you fight at the end of Sonic 2? That's even less of a villain than Shadow Link, at least Shadow Link appears in three different games, and in Four Swords Adventures he actually had multiple appearances.
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Nominate Ultros for the Spring Contest! Uwee hee hee!
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:01:31 PM | Message Detail
Metal Sonic also appears in Sonic CD and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:02:17 PM | Message Detail
Metal Sonic appears in Sonic 2, Sonic 2 GG, S&K, as well as Sonic Heroes, the latter at least giving him a tiny bit more character than Dark Link. Probably had other appearances too.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:02:31 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:02:43 PM | Message Detail
Ah, Sonic CD of course.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:05:13 PM | Message Detail
Metal Sonic is also in Knuckles Chaotix (He's in that game but Sonic isn't)
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Zelos: Don't hate me just because I'm beautiful.
Nominate Ghaleon here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: Kaxon | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:13:47 PM | Message Detail
Thanks, I guess I need to play more Sonic games.

The more I think about Four Swords Adventures, the more I think that Shadow Link does deserve to be in the contest. I get the feeling not too many people have played it, though. It's a fun game to play if you have more than 1 player.
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Nominate Ultros for the Spring Contest! Uwee hee hee!
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:37:35 PM | Message Detail
I loathe clones, nothing will change that. I want to see a clone-free contest just to keep it legit.
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"He was hotter and more doable in Kingdom Hearts." - Ulti on Squall
From: JonthePenguin | Posted: 4/7/2005 1:41:09 PM | Message Detail
Off topic, but Lieutenant Kettch, are you any relation to Admiral Kettch at TFC?

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Nominate Walter from Castlevania: Lament of Innocence for Spring Contest 2005!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=19412943
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/7/2005 3:38:48 PM | Message Detail
If you ask me, I think we should just let the clones in. Their strength is unpredictable, and we all know Sephiroth is going to win anyway, so I don't see why we shouldn't have at least one X-factor in this contest.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/7/2005 3:39:53 PM | Message Detail
I remember Metal Sonic. The Death Egg Zone was a bit of a pain.
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Jon Thomson - knows nothing
Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: cyko | Posted: 4/7/2005 4:28:40 PM | Message Detail
so, does anyone else think that CJay leaving the nominations exclusively up to Board 8 (and our word of mouth) is his way of compromise towards letting us make the bracket? it really seems that he's not gonna post the nomination link on the main page at this point. so maybe letting us handle all of the nominations is CJay's way of meeting us half-way between having a Board 8 Guru made bracket and a CJay made bracket. it's too bad that limiting the nominations to Board 8 and whoever we inform doesn't guarantee a good bracket, though. but, it makes me wonder if Ceej will handle the nominations for the Summer Contest in the same way.

also, i'm getting the feeling that Ceej will keep giving us the Great Character Battle as our Summer Contest, but give us a different theme for each Spring Contest to give us a chance to see characters and whatever that we wouldn't normally see in a contest.

for example, i'm seriously betting that next Spring we will have a Greatest Female Character battle next Spring, seeing how few female characters make it into the Summer Contest. (i'm sure most of you guys would love to see Samus win a contest anyways. =P) then, i wouldn't be surprised if we had a Best Series Ever Contest, and then maybe Spring 2008 would be a good time for an updated Best Game Ever Contest. as far as i'm concerned, i'd take take these differently themed contests over a Best Game Ever Contest every year anyways, but 4 years between Game Contests seems like a good chunk of time for people's opionions to evolve and more great games to come out.

that's pure speculation of course, but i have convinced myself that there will be a Greatest Female Character Battle next spring.


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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 4/7/2005 4:34:12 PM | Message Detail
So, everyone here firmly believes that Sephiroth will be winning this contest?

I know that's a very "duh" point, but I just don't want to shut off the idea that maybe the more well known villains (Bowser and Ganon) don't get much stronger against him.

And I'll just save someone the time right now:
"hey if you want to throw away your bracket, by all means, do."
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One who knows nothing can understand nothing.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold." - Old Klingon Proverb
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/7/2005 5:13:15 PM | Message Detail
On this site, Bowser and Ganondorf are at best marginally more well known then Sephiroth. No where near enough of an advantage to stand up against Sephiroth.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Nominate Giovanni(Pokemon) and Lance for GameFAQ's Spring 2005 Contest!!
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 5:22:15 PM | Message Detail
Their strength is unpredictable, and we all know Sephiroth is going to win anyway, so I don't see why we shouldn't have at least one X-factor in this contest.

Because I hate the idea of having them win a match on the sole basis of them being a clone.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Kaxon | Posted: 4/7/2005 6:12:28 PM | Message Detail
FastFalcon, my basic attitude is that anything can happen (except Gordon Freeman winning a match) - Mario proved that when he beat Cloud and Cloud proved it again when he beat Link. But that doesn't mean it's very likely. So Sephiroth could lose, but I'd say his chances of winning are probably over 90%.

I don't think it would make sense to pick a different winner in this contest - part of the reason to pick an upset is to separate yourself from the pack, and in this contest will be unpredictable enough that there will be lots of better places to do that. For example, last summer I picked Mega Man not because I thought he would win, but because I thought if he somehow won, I would have a good chance of winning the contest - and if I picked Cloud or Link, I would have a poor chance of winning the contest even if I was right. (My theory was pretty much correct, but since MM lost it didn't pay off). I don't think that will apply this time because there will be enough matches up in the air that you can win by picking those correctly.
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Nominate Ultros for the Spring Contest! Uwee hee hee!
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/7/2005 6:15:29 PM | Message Detail
I hate the fact that Sephiroth is going to win the contest, but there's simply no villain even close enough to pick over him. He'll probably end up beating a lot of my favorites along the way, but going against him in a villain contest is just. . . Well, stupid.

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Nominate Dark Samus for the Spring 2005 Contest!
From: Weird Kirby Dude11 | Posted: 4/7/2005 6:17:43 PM | Message Detail
Kaxon: Well, sometimes you might not want the separation. Last year, I was in the Top 50 ner the end until the last match. I guess I can say that I followed the pack and would have won some prizes if I had picked Link instead of Cloud. So if the pack seems right, follow.
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Tanner. The only guy Gordon can call a loser and not sound like a hypocrite. - Slowflake
From: therealmnm | Posted: 4/7/2005 6:50:30 PM | Message Detail
RPGuy96, you just took my whole post the wrong way. I admit that I haven't gotten to Metroid Prime 2 yet, so I don't know how what kind of role Dark Samus plays in it. But you did kinda touch on what I DID mean. I can point out two things you said in your post:

More or less the same deal with Dark Samus. We know that neither Prime is especially popular on this site, and Echoes is probably less popular than the original Prime. I think it is somewhat unlikely for the majority of the voters to know who Dark Samus is, and what it truly represents. With that backstory out of the way, all she is a recolor of Samus, and I don't think voters will be all that inclined to vote for a simple recolor. We're of the opinion that Ridley isn't all that strong; why would Dark Samus, who's appeared in one game that wasn't extrordinarily well received, be stronger than the defining boss of the Metroid series? It just doesn't make sense to me.

I agree with people not likely knowing who Dark Samus is. So from what you are saying all they will see is Samus with a simple recoloring. Why WOULDN'T they vote for Dark Samus? I'm not saying it will happen, but you ask why would Dark Samus be stronger than Ridley? You don't think being DARK SAMUS would have ANY weight in this? Even if she doesn't end up being nearly as strong as Samus, there still is the potential. And with there being a potentially significant decrease in quality in this contest, I would cringe at the potential of Dark Samus or Shadow Link or Mario making it to the Final Four. Note I said nothing of Wario or Shadow in my post. Their characters are established.

Like I said, I'm not entirely sure of Dark Samus, but Shadow Link and Mario are not established villains. The POTENTIAL of them doing well due to who they are is what I'm complaining about. If you had any of those characters going on to beat say, a Revolver Ocelot, I know MANY people would be upset over that. Don't get me wrong, if Dark Samus or Shadow Link came in the contest and ended up being as weak as Wario, I would have no problem with it. But I don't think that would happen, as these are BIGGER names than Wario in terms of counterparts. They aren't established like Wario, so how do you think voters would gauge them by? Your logic is that since they aren't established, then people will not vote for him. I'm inclined to believe otherwise... but that's just my opinion. My main point is that if these characters WERE to do well in the contest, it wouldn't be fair to the other characters in the villain contest.

And I too wrote more than I intended to.....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/7/2005 6:59:54 PM | Message Detail
I dunno if Dark Samus, Dark Link or Metal Sonic would be more like Liquid or Shadow (who isn't eligible BTW), or more like Luigi, who's been a simple recolor of Mario and nothing more all the way until Paper Mario, where he had a minor role anyway.

Yes, the potential is there. Yes, the first two have the potential, along with Mario, to be the only ones with a shot of breaking 35% on Sephiroth. But they could completely flop just like Luigi did.

And then there's Mario. Would he be as strong here as he would be in a character contest? No. There ARE people who realize this will be a villain contest, and what did Mario do as a villain, DK Jr.? Exactly. There are the people that don't know Mario was a villain, and will vote for the opponent on principle alone. Of course, there are also the mindless drones who see Mario and, say, Ghaleon and wet their pants at the sight of Mario and vote for him. It all depends on how numerous they are. Now, I have no doubt they'd carry Mario past losers like Ghaleon, but what if someone like Seymour could take him out?
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:02:00 PM | Message Detail
I'm dying to receive a bracket. . .

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Nominate Dark Samus for the Spring 2005 Contest!
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:02:22 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I wasn't really directing my post at you; just the people that think DL would beat Ganondorf and that DS would be Ridley. DL/S will get franchise votes based on name and appearance, there's no denying that. And it would probably be enough to carry them pretty far, given the competition. If the voters don't know who the opponent is, and they know who DL/S is based on (very likely), chances are that they'll vote for DL/S. However, when the two go up against someone that the voters generally do know, particularly from the same series as DL/S, I don't see why they would vote for DL/S over, say, Ganondorf/Ridley.

And I agree with you; I don't think DL/S should be allowed in, because the majority of the votes they would get would be for the wrong reason. I just don't think those votes would amount to more than the main villains of the series.
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"My name is Guybrush Threepwood. Prepare to die!"
From: therealmnm | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:12:10 PM | Message Detail
ohh... umm... oops? I'm going to a house party now. Lata...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: cyko | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:49:04 PM | Message Detail
Ghaleon is not a loser, Slow!! >=O

he will totally whomp Kane from Command and Conquer in the first round before losing in the second round to someone casual voters actually recognize. =/

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Shadow Doom Blaze | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:55:24 PM | Message Detail
I fully expect Ghaleon to be a complete choke, personally; second round if he gets a decent draw.
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From: Fett0001 | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:55:55 PM | Message Detail
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Pwned by Nifboy in the 2k4 Guru Challenge.
Congrats.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/7/2005 7:57:43 PM | Message Detail
Considering the competition, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Ghaleon make the sweet 16. It's not like he has to be all that strong to manage that.
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"My name is Guybrush Threepwood. Prepare to die!"
From: kaonashi1 | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:27:01 PM | Message Detail
Well, there's the front page announcement. It seems Board 8 was only given a head start for the nominations, and not exclusive control.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:27:55 PM | Message Detail
The contest will be open next week.

Does this mean no bracket?
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: kaonashi1 | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:29:09 PM | Message Detail
I assume that what he means is bracket submissions will open next week, though I agree the wording is rather confusing.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:29:22 PM | Message Detail
Does this mean no bracket?

Why would that mean no bracket???

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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Yes, this is MasterMage119.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:30:29 PM | Message Detail
Because it says the contest is open next week, as if we were going straight into the contest without having a bracket to fill out.

If it's only a 32 villain contest, then I wouldn't be surprised if we won't be filling out brackets.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Shadow Doom Blaze | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:31:21 PM | Message Detail
I take it as opening for the brackets, but it is awkward.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:32:03 PM | Message Detail
Eh, we only assume that because it's what we're used to. The wording seems to imply that the contest will start.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Shadow Doom Blaze | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:38:46 PM | Message Detail
He surely won't have time to have a bracket set and match-pics to fit with them though.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/7/2005 8:39:30 PM | Message Detail
Why not? It's not like he does all of that before the contest starts.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
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