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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 104
From: TRE Public Account | Posted: 4/6/2005 10:19:30 AM | Message Detail
CJayC doing case-by-case? Well, that remains to be seen, since there has never been any restriction on entries before

There have always been restrictions. The only difference now is that they are more explictly defined. For example you have to nominate a character for the character contest. And that's not as simple as it sounds consdering the whole "Mass Carriers" thing.
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From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/6/2005 10:26:12 AM | Message Detail
"Evil" protagonists (Kratos from God of War)

Seeing as how you control Kerrigan she would fall in to the evil protagonist category, so I definatly wouldn't be suprised if she weren't allowed. The point of the contest is more of best antagonist, not best villian. Or at least that is what the limitation on entrants leads me to believe. Wheather thats biased against genres like fighting games and RTS is irrelevant. That being said, I doubt we'll see Kerrigan.
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/6/2005 11:21:33 AM | Message Detail
Anyone care to speculate how long the noms will be open for?
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Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 11:32:39 AM | Message Detail
'Til his topic hits 500 or two days from now...whichever comes first.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Arbiter in 2k5
Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5, too
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 4/6/2005 11:54:24 AM | Message Detail
BTW, 3 of the 7 perfects picked Master Chief to beat Frog that day.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 11:56:09 AM | Message Detail
MC was a very smart choice, too; I had it called since before brackets closed that it'd be a barn-burner. The problem was that Frog was seven votes smarter, heh.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Arbiter in 2k5
Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5, too
From: Mumei | Posted: 4/6/2005 12:35:26 PM | Message Detail
Seeing as how you control Kerrigan she would fall in to the evil protagonist category, so I definatly wouldn't be suprised if she weren't allowed.

Yet you are not playing as her; you are playing for her. You are merely a cerebrate doing her bidding. She is still the "bad guy" - or "girl" as it were. All that happened is that you've switched your role when you began playing the Zerg campaign. She didn't suddenly become the protagonist.
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From: cyko | Posted: 4/6/2005 2:36:43 PM | Message Detail
Anyone care to speculate how long the noms will be open for?

i'll guess that they will be open until Saturday at 6:00 PM. then the bracket will be up that night or the next day. although, Ceej doesn't seem to be opening these nominations up to everyone. i'm not sure if he's gonna post something on the home page or not, now that his topic has hit 500 and will purge soon.

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 2:50:50 PM | Message Detail
Looking around the board... man, what an impact Dark Samus is making. And the bracket isn't even out.

Question: would Dark Samus really be as much of an outlet for Samus votes as is feared?

Honestly, I gotta question that. I kinda doubt DS would rank an easy second if Mario and Dark Link end up on the sidelines. Even if Ganondorf ranks ridiculously far behind regular Samus.

Gotta pity Ridley though... every time he's primed to appear in the contest, then his best chance yet comes and he gets his spotlight stolen.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 4/6/2005 2:54:17 PM | Message Detail
Answer: No.
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/6/2005 2:54:34 PM | Message Detail
You're just as much playing as Kerrigan as you are for every character in any game. Controlling a character is playing as them.
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: cyko | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:10:25 PM | Message Detail
answer: maybe.

which is why she should be allowed in as Metroid Prime instead of as Dark Samus. then, everyone wins. her fans still get to support her and naysayers can't fear that she will steal all of regular Samus's fans.

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:11:30 PM | Message Detail
However, Kerrigan, aside from Mengsk of course, is the one character completely bent on galactic domination. The Protoss and Terrans, Mengsk and the Conclave aside, are pretty much made out to be the good guys, and the Zerg the baddies. It may or may not have to do with us actually tending to side with the Terrans for obvious reasons, but whatever.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:11:48 PM | Message Detail
No, not at all.

then, everyone wins

Metroid Prime would get less support from people like Slowflake and myself, as well as many others. Looking like Samus isn't Dark Samus's appeal.

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Nominate Dark Samus for the Spring 2005 Contest!
From: cyko | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:14:33 PM | Message Detail
why would you or Slow support her less if she made the contest as Metroid Prime instead of Dark Samus? i thought they were the same character, like Magus and Janus or something like that.

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:14:34 PM | Message Detail
I suggest you go check out Tai's topic about nominations. The compiling of the first 50 posts is done, and the results are pretty cool, except for Kefka getting so little support. Dark Samus is actually in the top 10.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:14:52 PM | Message Detail
Even so slowflake, it is clear by the entry guidelines that this is set up to be an antagonist contest, not a villian contest. If it weren't evil protagonists would be allowed.
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:15:44 PM | Message Detail
If you played the games, you'd understand. The whole appeal of Dark Samus comes from the terrific boss fights and cutscenes she's involved in. Much better than what she can claim in her Metroid Prime form.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:16:28 PM | Message Detail
On Kerrigan. Playing as the villain is different from playing with the villain. It's easy to look at Starcraft and see Kerrigan as the biggest villain, and Tassadar as the good guy.

~*ST*~
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From: cyko | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:17:03 PM | Message Detail
but wouldn't her true fans know that a vote for Metroid Prime is a vote for Dark Samus?

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Samurai7 | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:17:29 PM | Message Detail
Still Ulti, the intent her is obviously based on being an antagonist, not level of villiany
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:17:46 PM | Message Detail
Slow explained it before I could, and probably did a better job than I would've done. But exactly what he said.

And I'm glad you said that, Slow. I hadn't realized that Dark Samus was in the top 10 for board nominations. That's awesome. <3

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Nominate Dark Samus for the Spring 2005 Contest!
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:20:01 PM | Message Detail
but wouldn't her true fans know that a vote for Metroid Prime is a vote for Dark Samus?

Why not just keep her as Dark Samus? There shouldn't be a problem with it at all. When you're portrayed as the main villain of a game and this same game does not tell you that it's a different form from the previous game, there's no reason to not include her, or go back to her previous form. She is far better as Dark Samus than Metroid Prime.

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Nominate Dark Samus for the Spring 2005 Contest!
From: cyko | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:25:35 PM | Message Detail
i see. i didn't realize that she wasn't in Metroid Prime form at all in MP2. i can understand your reasoning, then. if that is the case then, yeah i could definitely see her picking up quite a few casual votes. not enought to beat Sephiroth or anything astronomical, but still enough based on her name recognition - especially if she winds up against one or more villains few casual gamers have heard of.

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:26:38 PM | Message Detail
Dark Samus giving jobbers a thrashing isn't a problem. The issue most have is if she ends up strong enough to beat the likes of Ganondorf.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: cyko | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:27:49 PM | Message Detail
at this point, virtually anything is possible.

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Nominate DUFF MCWHALEN for Spring2K5!!
Trivia XIV: MEATWADD SUCKS!!
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:39:19 PM | Message Detail
The issue most have is if she ends up strong enough to beat the likes of Ganondorf.

No, the issue I have is ****ing over five potentially interesting matches so you guys can get a near-carbon copy (in appearance, which is going to be the main factor here) of Samus in.

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:43:17 PM | Message Detail
If Dark Samus makes it in, expect her to be just as strong as Samus.

Yeah, I have a slight problem with letting "Dark" characters in.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:47:32 PM | Message Detail
No, the issue I have is ****ing over five potentially interesting matches so you guys can get a near-carbon copy (in appearance, which is going to be the main factor here) of Samus in.

The same thing can be said of Sephiroth and Ganon, and you could just recify this by putting DS in Sephy's division to keep everything else interesting.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:53:27 PM | Message Detail
I'll personally be happy if DS is in Sephy's division. Sephy's half of the bracket will be meh, and being on the other half woull make me sad. That's not to say she'd be guaranteed to the finals...but, she'd have a good shot.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:56:24 PM | Message Detail

The same thing can be said of Sephiroth and Ganon, and you could just recify this by putting DS in Sephy's division to keep everything else interesting.


Sephiroth and Ganon are popular because of themselves, not because they have a popular, good guy version. The only way I wouldn't mind Dark Samus getting in would be if she was a 16 seed pitted against Sephy first round.

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:57:04 PM | Message Detail
Dark Samus being an 8 or 9 seed in the first round against Dark Link would be nice, especially with Sephiroth as the 1 seed. It would shut up all of this whining in a flash.

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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 3:58:22 PM | Message Detail
That'd actually be interesting as hell if that happened; I fully approve 8/9 DS/DL match.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: Mood_Game | Posted: 4/6/2005 4:01:18 PM | Message Detail
Dark Samus being an 8 or 9 seed in the first round against Dark Link would be nice, especially with Sephiroth as the 1 seed. It would shut up all of this whining in a flash.

That I could come to terms with. My only worry, as I said, is DL and DS dominating the bracket as a vote outlet for standard Link and Samus. Negate that problem, and I stop caring.

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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From: Fantusta | Posted: 4/6/2005 4:08:56 PM | Message Detail
1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta

I was close enough without the final match last year.
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 4/6/2005 4:32:09 PM | Message Detail
Just a quick question, is Ramirez in the top 10 for board nominations?
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 4:33:44 PM | Message Detail
According to the early results in Tai's topic, tied for fourth with Ganondorf and Wily, and behind Bowser, CATS and Kerrigan.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: swirldude | Posted: 4/6/2005 4:34:51 PM | Message Detail
Of course, that's only the first page
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 4/6/2005 5:44:17 PM | Message Detail
It's not too late to enter, is it? I did fairly well last year.

1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - MegatokyoED
55 - Z1mZum
56 - RamzaB
57 - nifboy
58 - Paratroopa1
59 - A Hogasm IN POG FORM
60 - greatone10
61 - VicPez
62 - Samurai7
63 - Master Moltar
64 - Yesmar
65 - RPGGamer0
66 - Zylo the wolf
67 - Fantusta
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/6/2005 5:45:10 PM | Message Detail
I convinced some random guy on AIM that Zero would go to the Final Four last year.

I wonder what vile of evil nonsense I can concoct this contest.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh!" -Magus Zeal
From: Mood_Game | Posted: 4/6/2005 5:45:19 PM | Message Detail
It's not too late to enter, is it? I did fairly well last year.

Hell no, this is the third day.

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 5:47:52 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, if you were to ever tag-team with Balrog0, I believe you two would completely wreck 10% of GameFAQs brackets. Even without him, I still blame you for DK's massive bracket-support. =P
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: Mood_Game | Posted: 4/6/2005 5:50:23 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, if you were to ever tag-team with Balrog0, I believe you two would completely wreck 10% of GameFAQs brackets. Even without him, I still blame you for DK's massive bracket-support. =P

Not to knock Ulti, but I think his word will be a lot less destructive this time around. And in Vivi vs DK, DK really did feel right.

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 5:58:02 PM | Message Detail
I had DK at first...and as soon as somebody told me that Vivi came from FF9 (and wasn't the lead), I immediately switched and never looked back. To be fair, I did think it'd be close though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: Mood_Game | Posted: 4/6/2005 6:03:16 PM | Message Detail
I had DK at first...and as soon as somebody told me that Vivi came from FF9 (and wasn't the lead), I immediately switched and never looked back. To be fair, I did think it'd be close though.

I never actually had DK, but I thought it would be closer, Vivi winning just off of the BMF.

In accordance to the prophecy, Dweebenheimer!
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/6/2005 6:10:23 PM | Message Detail
Vivi's success also makes me curious about how well Kuja could do.

Today is 1337 day for me. Hooray!

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 6:11:37 PM | Message Detail
Hip-hip-huzzah for Haste2.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/6/2005 6:12:09 PM | Message Detail
Depends on how much help Vivi got from being a black mage. I don't think that was a big factor, so I tend to think Kuja could do fairly well. Kefka-ish, give or take.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/6/2005 6:14:02 PM | Message Detail
I think Kuja would be just a lil' weaker than Kefka...but, I totally agree with Vivi.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Dr. Wily in 2k5
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/6/2005 6:16:13 PM | Message Detail
I actually think Kuja could be a wee bit higher than Kefka. Not enough to beat Knuckles, but still...
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
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