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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 104
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 2:55:44 PM | Message Detail
Well, Dark Link and Dark Samus in the contest are a scary thought (although it may be no more than a thought). I'm thinking Dark Samus would get in before Dark Link though, since she has storyline implication and is just sooo much cooler. Dark Link's just your average "fight your own clone" battle, although it IS one of OoT's best.

Dark Link is also the final boss of Zelda II, you know. I believe he also appears in the GBA version of A Link to the Past, in that secret dungeon.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 4/5/2005 2:56:46 PM | Message Detail
SPOILERS



























Wouldn't fighting Cloud in Kingdom Hearts let him in the contest?
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 2:56:47 PM | Message Detail
The rules for what constitutes a "villain" are confusing. If a character is bad in one game and good in another, they're fair game, but if someone changes alliegances over the course of a single game, they're not allowed in? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 2:58:20 PM | Message Detail
Dark Link is also the final boss of Zelda II, you know.

I knew that one, but I don't think of 2D Zeldas very highly, and as such I don't think of them first.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: swirldude | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:04:43 PM | Message Detail
I don't think of 2D Zeldas very highly

;_;
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:09:52 PM | Message Detail
For the benefit of the one person that hasn't already submitted their nominations, please remember that Ridley is an excellent selection for this contest. Thank you.
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Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:13:14 PM | Message Detail
Slowflake thinks 3D Zeldas>2D Zeldas?

I'd agree if Majora's Mask and Wind Waker never existed.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:14:33 PM | Message Detail
Majora's Mask is no problem, and Wind Waker rocks your pants off. There.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:16:03 PM | Message Detail
Ironically, Majora's Mask is the best 3D Zelda.

However, I'm not nominating Skull Kid for the genius reason that he sucks.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:17:42 PM | Message Detail
My thoughts on Dark Link and Dark Samus?

If DL got in, I'd put him (it?) over anyone but Sephiroth. However, since he has zero relevance in the storylines of the games he appears in, I doubt he/it'll get in.

Dark Samus is a definite possibility, especially with all the board support she (it?) appears to be receiving. DS could be a major bracket buster if Ceej lets her/it in.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:18:30 PM | Message Detail
Unless it's Metroid Prime that makes it in instead, of course.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Mumei | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:18:31 PM | Message Detail
Mumei just chewed me out for not knowing who he is. He's from Eternal Darkness.

And you should be chewed out for not playing ED.

Ironically, Majora's Mask is the best 3D Zelda.

<3



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From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:20:27 PM | Message Detail
Wind Waker is just a pretty face with no substance (read: it's one of the easiest game I've ever played. A comatose person could beat it.)
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:23:36 PM | Message Detail
Wind Waker is just a pretty face with no substance (read: it's one of the easiest game I've ever played. A comatose person could beat it.)

I highly doubt Terri Shiavo could have beaten the Wind Waker.

and anyways... the only person I'm afraid of getting into the contest that could beat Sephiroth, would be Dark Link.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:26:04 PM | Message Detail
I really don't think Dark Link will be allowed. I think this is part of the reason for having a villains contest: It's something Cloud or Link can't win.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:26:48 PM | Message Detail
I don't give a ****ing damn. It was fun, and it's all that matters.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:42:23 PM | Message Detail
But why is Walter so great? I think it is the idea of nominating someone named Walter that gets me. It isn't a very good villain name...

*is named Walter*

And I am so a villain!!!.......a good villain too!

and everyone should nominate Ansem.

I can't say I support Dark Link and Mario being nominated. I really don't care if they were villains back in the day, now they're both heroes, well, regular Link that is. Dark Link would just be riding off of Link's popularity, and...I dunno that's somehow just degrading to the contest. If it's seph's contest to win, so be it.

Lol, and King Morgoth I was just being bitter, I'm still upset we lost the actual topic (and a friendly user, too) all because of a miserable worthless technicality.



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From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:49:38 PM | Message Detail
Please, there is only one villain in the Metroid series that we need to nominate, and we all know who that is.
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Jon Thomson - knows nothing
Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:50:08 PM | Message Detail
I'd be perfectly fine with just Ridley.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:57:51 PM | Message Detail
CJayC still hasn't put this on the main board.

Also I will be surprised if the following characters didn't make it to the contest

Sephiroth
Ganondorf
Bowser
Ridley
Dr. Robotnik
Dr. Wily
Wario

I think that's all
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:59:24 PM | Message Detail
Wario? bleh, I could do without him.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/5/2005 3:59:31 PM | Message Detail
Also I will be surprised if the following characters didn't make it to the contest

Sephiroth
Ganondorf
Bowser
Ridley
Dr. Robotnik
Dr. Wily
Wario


They all should make it. The only one that, IMO, is a slight doubt is Robotnik. Heck, I nominated most of those.
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Jon Thomson - knows nothing
Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:00:13 PM | Message Detail
Wily over Sigma/Bass?
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:00:22 PM | Message Detail
Robotnik will probably make it. I couldn't name 64 villains that would get in before him.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:01:29 PM | Message Detail
Unless/until the announcement goes on the front page, Kerrigan is deadlocked.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: cyko | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:06:41 PM | Message Detail
on the matter of Riku, i have a feeling that he would fall into the "friendly rival" category and won't be allowed in.

*SPOILERS*



in Kingdom Hearts, he is your friend in the beginning, fights you for a while, but helps you in the end. he also loses his memory in Chain of Memories and fights you for a while, but comes around in the end.



*end SPOILERS*


on another note, does anyone think Lavos would actually be able to make an impact if Magus really isn't allowed in? i never really cared much about Lavos and Lavos doesn't really seem to have a big following, at least around this board. but do you think villains like Lavos will get a lot of votes, simply because of the game they are in?

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From: Kittyisscared | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:07:12 PM | Message Detail
...There's been 104 of these and I've never seen one till now?
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:08:00 PM | Message Detail
Well, maybe, since there are so few villains in the top 30 in character battles. Lavos could conceivably win a match, maybe even two.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:08:43 PM | Message Detail
Robotnik will probably make it.

Of course. In a 64 character contest, Robotnik should definitely make it. Even with 32 he should. He seems the least likely of those listed though.
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Jon Thomson - knows nothing
Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:09:21 PM | Message Detail
yeah, Riku's infinitely cooler than Sora, but he isn't a villain.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:13:32 PM | Message Detail
I have two questions:

1. Where's my "Guess Which Characters Make the Bracket Contest"?

and

2. Give me my Guess Which Characters Make the Bracket Contest.

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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:15:01 PM | Message Detail
If Magus isn't allowed, I'd think that Lynx would actually be the strongest villain from the series...Maybe.
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SC2K5 Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Zidane, Serge, Musashi, Tifa Lockheart, Leon Kennedy, Kerrigan, Revolver Ocelot, Lloyd Irving
From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:21:32 PM | Message Detail
OK, most of my posts today have been loosely concealed attempts to get people to nominate Ridley... here's my semi-serious take on the contest, still just a few hours after the announcement:

PROS:

- A great way to get rid of Link and Cloud, yet not try to convolute it. It will, obviously, work the same as a normal summer contest, but most people won't pick up on that.

- It allows a lot of new characters to make their debuts in a contest situation (*cough*RIDLEY*cough*), particularly if it remains as a 64 contender contest and not 32 that I've seen postulated.

- That's the last plug in this post, barring the sig.

- A fair bit of unpredictability. This partly comes from the previous point, and from the fact that a lot of the "instant wins" in the normal SC's are from those that aren't eligible for this contest. We'll still be able to get decent scores, for sure, but I can't see a -1 (off the maximum) being required to win.

- Duke lost to Michigan State.

CONS:

- Sephiroth wins.

- In the case that there's 64 runners, there's the possibility that there's many first round matches that will be blowouts or be matches that people just don't care about. That's a danger in any case, but we're not going to see any 8/9 matches of the caliber of Ganondorf/Alucard.

- No Gordon Freeman. CATS could potentially overtake him in terms of number of losses, which is something which should never be allowed to happen.

- Contest was announced hours after my Illinois-UNC final bracket was destroyed at the last hurdle. That's got to be a bad omen.
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Nominate Ridley NOW!!!
From: Rodri316 | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:21:59 PM | Message Detail
Right here, Ngamer.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=20254436
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:28:04 PM | Message Detail
Why thank you Mr. Rod.

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From: cyko | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:29:18 PM | Message Detail
A fair bit of unpredictability. This partly comes from the previous point, and from the fact that a lot of the "instant wins" in the normal SC's are from those that aren't eligible for this contest. We'll still be able to get decent scores, for sure, but I can't see a -1 (off the maximum) being required to win.

you mean, POTENTIAL for a LOT of unpredictability. i say potential, because it depends on how the bracket is set up. it is possible for CJay to botch this bracket into a mostly predictable bracket like last Summer's, but it's not very likely. to me, this unpredictability will definitely be the best part of this contest, seeing how we will only have about 8 characters that we have any previous contest information about.

yay unpredictability!!

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From: Silver Cent | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:33:54 PM | Message Detail
Unless/until the announcement goes on the front page, Kerrigan is deadlocked.

As is Ghaleon. >_>
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:51:32 PM | Message Detail
Home-Run Contest High Scores Part 104 X infestd Falcon 170
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 104 UltimaterializerX 137

We're coming.
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SpC2K5 nominations: Kefka, Ganondorf, Bowser, Ridley, Eggman, Dark Samus, Mario, DK, CATS, Kerrigan
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:53:14 PM | Message Detail
On a side note: I'm glad Ceej decided to do an entirely new contest rather than go the stupid route and remove Cloud and Link, making the character contest even more predictable.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:56:36 PM | Message Detail
Apparently I'm not the first one to theorize that there may only be 32 characters in this contest. After all, if there's 64 villains in this tourney, then it'll end right around the time that the nominations for the next contest would begin. I highly doubt that Ceej would want to do two contests in a row.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:57:18 PM | Message Detail
Look who's back to the Stats topic!
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:57:18 PM | Message Detail
Look who's back to the Stats topic!
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From: neoblackmage | Posted: 4/5/2005 4:59:15 PM | Message Detail
If we have the crazy "two 500-topics in one day" thing that we had a couple timse last year, we'll have them by the end of the contest.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 4/5/2005 5:07:39 PM | Message Detail
um we're about 40 posts away from them
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 4/5/2005 5:57:19 PM | Message Detail
I'll be disappointed if there are only 32 characters in the contest, but I don't think it's likely. More likely is that the Summer Contest will be late (it may even be a Fall Contest this time).
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From: nifboy | Posted: 4/5/2005 5:57:40 PM | Message Detail
I lurk too much, methinks.

I think I'm going to throw away a nomination to one of the Street Fighter villains, but haven't decided between Akuma or M. Bison.

1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - Tai
55 - MegatokyoED
56 - Z1mZum
57 - RamzaB
58 - nifboy
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Early Summer contest prediction: Lloyd Irving loses first round.
From: Rodri316 | Posted: 4/5/2005 6:01:12 PM | Message Detail
What's this long list of users all about?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/5/2005 6:04:16 PM | Message Detail
I'm expecting 32 villains as well.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 4/5/2005 6:05:18 PM | Message Detail
The gurus contest

We sign up and once the brackets are locked we post them and in the end whoever has the most points gets to be in our sig for 2-4 weeks
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From: Paratroopa1 | Posted: 4/5/2005 6:05:25 PM | Message Detail
I will join the Guru contest.

1 - UltimateralizerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - MasterMage119
4 - HaRRicH
5 - Haste2
6 - RPGuy96
7 - H4L187
8 - cyko
9 - Robazoid
10 - Janus5000
11 - DomaDragoon
12 - Mithrandir1331
13 - Nightmare 45
14 - Starion
15 - King Morgoth
16 - Fiop
17 - yoblazer33
18 - Phediuk
19 - FastFalcon05
20 - imdapartystar
21 - smitelf
22 - jonthomson
23 - Mister Mario
24 - nh82
25 - Shake
26 - stepintothearena
27 - Rufus Shinra 18
28 - charmander6000
29 - Sephirot1
30 - Tediz247
31 - ExThaNemesis
32 - Kuge
33 - SwanMocker
34 - JonthePenguin
35 - ChocoCid
36 - Ngamer
37 - CaptainFlufflez
38 - ExquisiteSamurai
39 - Young Boy
40 - Kaxon
41 - Shdwdde
42 - Garsha
43 - FFDragon
44 - Steinershocker
45 - Sir Bormun
46 - swirldude
47 - Heroic Mario
48 - Weird Kirby Dude11
49 - arkenaga
50 - Taslion
51 - perdevious
52 - Meche313
53 - Mumei
54 - Tai
55 - MegatokyoED
56 - Z1mZum
57 - RamzaB
58 - nifboy
59 - Paratroopa1
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