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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 75
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:45:13 PM | Message Detail
Going to work, be back later, blah blah blah.

***Stats websites***

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/extrapolated.php

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k2_extrapolated.htm

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k3_extrapolated.htm

Character comparisons Between Summer 2002 and Summer 2003:
http://sc2k4.com/summer_comparisons.php

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

***Stats topics***

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

Creativename's Links Page:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

***Miscellaneous***

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k4.com/update.php (add "?pollid=[4-digit poll number]" at the end of url to look at charts from past polls)

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=2

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=3

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=2

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:47:53 PM | Message Detail
First tag

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:48:44 PM | Message Detail
Go Samus!
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Burning inside, with a violent anger...
Please, please, please, do not let me die!
From: cronton | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:51:19 PM | Message Detail
Cloud will win it all. After watching Sephiroth get destroyed like this today, Link is definitely going in as the underdog.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:56:25 AM | Message Detail
Bump
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++
From: NewLib | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:58:25 AM | Message Detail
Like I said at the end of the other topic. Warp Pipe got a big announcement coming. They have suddenly become funded by someone and the only company that makes sense is Big N
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:58:55 AM | Message Detail
Damn Samus looks good, this is ridiculous, will Sonic get the day vote? I can't believe 34 votes have ballooned to this big of a gap in only 2 years. I figured no better than 55%... too bad she has to fight Cloud next. She would have been a major threat to Sephiroth this year. I propose "Super Seven" to replace noble nine. Sonic and Snake doesn't deserve to be part of an elite group.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:00:47 AM | Message Detail
Sonic is slowly chipping away at the lead, so who knows, we may get a good match after all.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:01:56 AM | Message Detail
Hmmm...

00:00 | Sonic | 00051 | +0051 | 39.53% | Samus | 00078 | +0078 | 60.47% | Lead of 0027 | (Up 27)
00:15 | Sonic | 00462 | +0411 | 41.89% | Samus | 00641 | +0563 | 58.11% | Lead of 0179 | (Up 152)
00:30 | Sonic | 00758 | +0296 | 41.49% | Samus | 01069 | +0428 | 58.51% | Lead of 0311 | (Up 132)
00:45 | Sonic | 00912 | +0154 | 41.36% | Samus | 01293 | +0224 | 58.64% | Lead of 0381 | (Up 70)
01:00 | Sonic | 01269 | +0357 | 42.26% | Samus | 01734 | +0441 | 57.74% | Lead of 0465 | (Up 84)

"Updates Left: 96
Samus's % last update: 60.47%

"Updates Left: 95
Samus's % last update: 57.80%

"Updates Left: 94
Samus's % last update: 59.12%

"Updates Left: 93
Samus's % last update: 59.26%

"Updates Left: 92
Samus's % last update: 55.26%

Sonic's looking a bit better in that last update. Damn. =(
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Faia Deflagratio | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:05:37 AM | Message Detail
Samus needs to break 60%. Sonic looks to be slightly stronger this year, as I recall, but Sonic and Cloud are very different opponents. Sonic is strong during the day, Cloud is strong all the time.

We know that Link is a lock for the finals. He beat Crono worse than Mega Man beat Solid Snake. Enough said. And since Link is in the finals, Samus has no chance of taking the tournament. She does have a chance of beating Cloud, but it doesn't look like a very big one.

Personally, I think Link is the favorite to win right now.

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I am Lucid Faia.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:08:14 AM | Message Detail
Link's match with Crono only outdid Cloud's match by around 2500 votes, and Cloud's match was an all-FF7 affair. I feel Cloud is the favorite, though he sure as hell won't win by the same margain he did last year. If anything, the two could put on a match that ends with a three digit vote difference in the end.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:08:33 AM | Message Detail
Uhh, remember Cloud doubled Sonic? 60% won't cut it to top Cloud, although it might be enough to rival Sephiroth now.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: Faia Deflagratio | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:15:30 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but Link's vote total outdid Cloud's vote total this round by 7,000 votes, and 17% more bracket makers had Cloud coming this far than Cloud, if you believe in that sort of thing.

Link got 62% against a much stronger Crono while Cloud got 56% on a supposedly-weaker Sephiroth. It's hard to pick a favorite, but the match will definitely be a good one.

And if not this year, I do think that Samus will definitely be able to beat Cloud next year. If Metroid Prime can give her that big a boost, imagine what the ultra-anticipated Metroid Prime 2: Echoes + Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS will do.

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I am Lucid Faia.
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:16:58 AM | Message Detail
Link's match with Crono only outdid Cloud's match by around 2500 votes, and Cloud's match was an all-FF7 affair. I feel Cloud is the favorite, though he sure as hell won't win by the same margain he did last year. If anything, the two could put on a match that ends with a three digit vote difference in the end.

Link vs. Ganondorf managed to bring in about 88,00 votes and nearly all of that was drawn in by Link alone and was an all-Zelda affair. Maybe that doesn't mean anything though.

I'm not sure there is a favorite at this point...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:17:17 AM | Message Detail
It's nice to know that I'm not the only Samus fan around here, that's for damned sure.

On that note, I need sleep. Where have all the stat topic regs gone, anyway? Chichiri, Slowflake, Heroic Mario.... everyone seems to have disappeared tonight.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:18:31 AM | Message Detail
Yea, and I hear a Metroid game is coming packaged with DS. Against Cloud though? I don't know, but she is going to be a fancy pick next year.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:18:47 AM | Message Detail
I know. I don't think I saw Chichiri yesterday either. Oh and update:

00:00 | Sonic | 00051 | +0051 | 39.53% | Samus | 00078 | +0078 | 60.47% | Lead of 0027 | (Up 27)
00:15 | Sonic | 00462 | +0411 | 41.89% | Samus | 00641 | +0563 | 58.11% | Lead of 0179 | (Up 152)
00:30 | Sonic | 00758 | +0296 | 41.49% | Samus | 01069 | +0428 | 58.51% | Lead of 0311 | (Up 132)
00:45 | Sonic | 00912 | +0154 | 41.36% | Samus | 01293 | +0224 | 58.64% | Lead of 0381 | (Up 70)
01:00 | Sonic | 01269 | +0357 | 42.26% | Samus | 01734 | +0441 | 57.74% | Lead of 0465 | (Up 84)
01:15 | Sonic | 01488 | +0219 | 42.56% | Samus | 02008 | +0274 | 57.44% | Lead of 0520 | (Up 55)

"Updates Left: 91
Votes per update needed for Sonic to catch up: 5.715
Samus's % last update: 55.58%
Total Votes so far: 3496"

Damn you, Sonic!

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:19:09 AM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario is sleeping... he does has school in like... 5 hours.
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Solid Snake owns.
From: Faia Deflagratio | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:20:20 AM | Message Detail
Yeah. Metroid Prime Hunters and PictoChat are being packaged with the DS.

...I'd like to repeat that because it sounds vaguely important. Metroid Prime Hunters and PictoChat are being packaged with the DS.

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I am Lucid Faia.
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:20:38 AM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario is sleeping... he does has school in like... 5 hours.

I have school in 4 hours myself. =)

I don't usually sleep much though about 4 or 5 hours a night. And I usually just go to bed early if I stay up too late the night before. ^_^
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:21:31 AM | Message Detail
The lead keeps going up...

He's cutting though.
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It's-a me! Mario!
SMW > SM64 > SMB.3 > SMB. > SMS > SMW 2: YI > SMB. 2 > SMB.: LL
From: Super Luigi | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:22:06 AM | Message Detail
I have work in like 30 minutes.... i work from 5 in the morning till 2 in the afternoon... get paid 6.75 an hour to start out.. not bad.
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Solid Snake owns.
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:22:45 AM | Message Detail
Actually Faia, that's a MP:H demo.

Still, better than nothing.

And if they don't have a Mario game at launch... :(
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It's-a me! Mario!
SMW > SM64 > SMB.3 > SMB. > SMS > SMW 2: YI > SMB. 2 > SMB.: LL
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:23:53 AM | Message Detail
HM is going to be dissapointed when he wakes up. He expected like 66% for Samus.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:24:54 AM | Message Detail
He said 61%, actually.
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It's-a me! Mario!
SMW > SM64 > SMB.3 > SMB. > SMS > SMW 2: YI > SMB. 2 > SMB.: LL
From: Jeal | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:31:44 AM | Message Detail
5 points off the lead... won't ever see top 50... kinda sad... *sigh*
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.
From: NewLib | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:47:49 AM | Message Detail
Ulti, you get to stay up with the B-Listers apparently. Well in my case, the D-Listers.
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:22:29 AM | Message Detail
At this rate the XP rankings will have predicted this match pretty well as it is.

Maybe this will shut up all those psychos who were blabbing about a big Samus increase.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:28:46 AM | Message Detail
Come on Samus, ya gotta come through. Beat the hell out of Sonic so we have a shot at an upset!

Hey, what's the X-Stats say about the Midgar Division?
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday
From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:43:26 AM | Message Detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 43.69% 3464
Samus Aran 56.31% 4464

1000 fairly quickly. Can't see Sonic's day vote making much of a difference now.
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Jon Thomson - today: Samus, tomorrow: Link - 104/120
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: wg64Z | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:54:44 AM | Message Detail
Youd be surprised what a good day vote can do for a Sonic Character, let alone Sonic himself.
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Score:106/112 Todays Pick: Cloud Strife
Zydicore - "wg is owning your freaking life, Heroic Mario."
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:59:23 AM | Message Detail
well actually if sonic has risen again (which this match, the one with dante, adn the one with terry sugest) samus might still have a chance to get above 45% on cloud.

Also another thing. If Sora=Aeris and this match ends 56-44 wouldn't that have sonic beating aeris almost 60-40? Srry not good with numbers
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush
From: Dark115 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:00:18 AM | Message Detail
I love the pics this round, well except the Mega Man/Snake one which was ok. But yeah Samus isn't getting quite what everyone expected and the day vote is coming in Sonic's favor
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Current SC2K4 Score: 117/120
COWS are for Milking, not GAMES
From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:08:18 AM | Message Detail
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16608368

Please take a minute of time to post who you'd have as your number 3 seeds in one of these contests. So far the board has chosen:

#1 - Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Samus
#2 - Mega Man, Crono, Mario, Sonic

Also follow the link in that topic to choose how the elite 8 matchups between those two sets of characters should line up. Thanks.
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Jon Thomson - today: Samus, tomorrow: Link - 104/120
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:11:40 AM | Message Detail
Today's pic is awesome.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday
From: ultimatelifeform8021 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:19:35 AM | Message Detail
Midgar Division

Cloud Strife 50.00%
Sephiroth 44.00%
Auron 28.42%
Vivi 26.18%
Squall Leonhart 23.79%
Donkey Kong 22.79%
Kirby 21.41%
Scorpion 19.98%
Ness 19.87%
Duke Nukem 19.81%
Vyse 18.59%
Jak 17.85%
Bomberman 16.77%
Kain 15.13%
Laharl 14.79%
Sly Cooper 11.99%
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SC2K4 Score: 112/120
Today's Pick: Samus
From: cyko | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:26:23 AM | Message Detail
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
From: cyko | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:29:02 AM | Message Detail
with Samus whomping Sonic now, i wonder how few people in the Top 50 actually went for the Sonic upset. most of the Top 50 is doing great. it looks like not only will the winning bracket have 190+ points, but the entire Top 10 could have 190+ points. 25 people can break 190 and 12 of them have Link winning, 12 of them have Cloud winning and 1 has Megaman. *sigh* and i thought 185 was gonna be a good score.

heh, apparently, i was typing up my post while ultimatelifeform posted the X-Stats for Midgar. man, i'm a slow typer. =/


but, if Cloud gets at least 50.5% against Link, even Sly Cooper will be ranked ahead of Ganondorf, lol.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:52:17 AM | Message Detail
Sonic's revenge? I just witnessed Sonic shave off 0.1 percent in 10 SECONDS.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:04:17 AM | Message Detail
00:00 | Sonic | 00051 | +0051 | 39.53% | Samus | 00078 | +0078 | 60.47% | Lead of 0027 | (Up 27)
00:15 | Sonic | 00462 | +0411 | 41.89% | Samus | 00641 | +0563 | 58.11% | Lead of 0179 | (Up 152)
00:30 | Sonic | 00758 | +0296 | 41.49% | Samus | 01069 | +0428 | 58.51% | Lead of 0311 | (Up 132)
00:45 | Sonic | 00912 | +0154 | 41.36% | Samus | 01293 | +0224 | 58.64% | Lead of 0381 | (Up 70)
01:00 | Sonic | 01269 | +0357 | 42.26% | Samus | 01734 | +0441 | 57.74% | Lead of 0465 | (Up 84)
01:15 | Sonic | 01488 | +0219 | 42.56% | Samus | 02008 | +0274 | 57.44% | Lead of 0520 | (Up 55)
01:30 | Sonic | 01708 | +0220 | 42.83% | Samus | 02280 | +0272 | 57.17% | Lead of 0572 | (Up 52)
01:45 | Sonic | 01899 | +0191 | 42.87% | Samus | 02531 | +0251 | 57.13% | Lead of 0632 | (Up 60)
02:00 | Sonic | 02071 | +0172 | 42.97% | Samus | 02749 | +0218 | 57.03% | Lead of 0678 | (Up 46)
02:15 | Sonic | 02247 | +0176 | 43.08% | Samus | 02969 | +0220 | 56.92% | Lead of 0722 | (Up 44)
02:30 | Sonic | 02430 | +0183 | 43.18% | Samus | 03197 | +0228 | 56.82% | Lead of 0767 | (Up 45)
02:45 | Sonic | 02618 | +0188 | 43.59% | Samus | 03388 | +0191 | 56.41% | Lead of 0770 | (Up 3)
03:00 | Sonic | 02796 | +0178 | 43.45% | Samus | 03639 | +0251 | 56.55% | Lead of 0843 | (Up 73)
03:15 | Sonic | 03014 | +0218 | 43.47% | Samus | 03920 | +0281 | 56.53% | Lead of 0906 | (Up 63)
03:30 | Sonic | 03258 | +0244 | 43.77% | Samus | 04185 | +0265 | 56.23% | Lead of 0927 | (Up 21)
03:45 | Sonic | 03540 | +0282 | 43.75% | Samus | 04551 | +0366 | 56.25% | Lead of 1011 | (Up 84)
04:00 | Sonic | 03817 | +0277 | 43.61% | Samus | 04936 | +0385 | 56.39% | Lead of 1119 | (Up 108)
04:15 | Sonic | 04141 | +0324 | 43.63% | Samus | 05351 | +0415 | 56.37% | Lead of 1210 | (Up 91)
04:30 | Sonic | 04447 | +0306 | 43.46% | Samus | 05785 | +0434 | 56.54% | Lead of 1338 | (Up 128)
04:45 | Sonic | 04812 | +0365 | 43.43% | Samus | 06267 | +0482 | 56.57% | Lead of 1455 | (Up 117)
05:00 | Sonic | 05149 | +0337 | 43.61% | Samus | 06659 | +0392 | 56.39% | Lead of 1510 | (Up 55)

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: tnote827 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:09:54 AM | Message Detail
If the top 25 remains after today it, more or less, assures that we will have 12 scores of 190 or 191. Wow. It is also fair to think that the entire top 50 could have 189 or higher, and the worst case scenario would be 188. I am not saying it is time to start retiring characters at all... I just think it is time to make these matches quite a bit tougher.
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SC2k4: 116/120 Rank: T-78
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:22:54 AM | Message Detail
Eh, not a bad showing for the hedgehog with the day vote to look forward to. Samus hasn't been winning updates by a large margin, so Sonic should actually be able to start shaving off the lead here soon.

If people still believed Samus had any shot at Cloud, they can put those hopes away now.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:28:05 AM | Message Detail
Oh yeah, and Cloud finished with 56% against Sephiroth. Not too bad at all.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:35:57 AM | Message Detail
Time to talk tiebreakers I think. Can't see Link-Cloud being more than 52/48 either way, and IIRC, we've not hit 100K votes in any match in this contest. So call it 95, and 52% of that comes to 49400. IMO, anything around 50K is looking good right now. My 45678 might not even be too far off if the match is really close and lacking in any substantial vote count increase.
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Jon Thomson - today: Samus, tomorrow: Link - 104/120
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: neoblackmage | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:38:00 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, it's nice to see this confirm my initial prediction and remove my (obviously irrational) thought that samus would beat cloud.
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" RPGE777:ChocoCid
From: Agent M | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:41:19 AM | Message Detail
Samus is climbing back up again... lead at 1900.
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Current score 107/120 :( Next match: GO SAMUS!!!!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:41:54 AM | Message Detail
Well, looks like I'm not leaving today. PWNED.

Samus is doing quite a bit better than the X-Sts project her to do, and with Sonic not going anywhere with the day vote... interesting. I'll wait until the after-school vote before jumping to conclusions.

GO SAMUS!
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:43:24 AM | Message Detail
Well, I'm a little disappointed right now with Samus' showing. It is nearly 3% better than what she would have been projected to get--assuming Sonic didn't increase--and she still isn't having a problem increasing his lead/percentage right now. This doesn't look great going into the match against Cloud, but at least she'll be able to manage a very nice percentage against him. Although I'm not sure just what today's match would project against Cloud.

She's about 4% off of what I went with in 61%, so unless she were to do great with the day vote she won't be getting that...
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:44:53 AM | Message Detail
Sheesh, in that time I took to type that she increased 0.13%. Nice.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: neoblackmage | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:47:09 AM | Message Detail
it's still fluctuating by about .2% max, it'll settle within 1% of this value either way, most likely.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 75
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:48:04 AM | Message Detail
1% in the positive direction, of course. Samus ending with 58% would be excellent.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:48:51 AM | Message Detail
I anticipated a bigger bracket shakeup after Spehiroth lost. For the most part, the leaderboard still looks the same.
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From: neoblackmage | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:49:10 AM | Message Detail
yeah... MMX is gone though.
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From: Agent M | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:50:28 AM | Message Detail
How are the vote totals doing so far?
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Current score 107/120 :( Next match: GO SAMUS!!!!
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:51:26 AM | Message Detail
Her and Link are far better characters to try and feed to the current gamer than Mario.

They aren't better characters, but Samus certainly aims toward a different demographic. The main reason Nintendo is packaging Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt with the NDS is to show that they aren't aiming at the same age group that they have been. They still plan to appeal to the younger crowd, but that's not the demographic they'll be aiming at with the NDS. ;)
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:52:43 AM | Message Detail
57%. Geez, that Samus is on fire.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:53:06 AM | Message Detail
Hah... told ya it'd be a similar gap to Mega Man/Snake. And with Samus going up against Link last year, it looks like Sonic might have gone back up a little from last year. Cloud made him look very bad.... Now I hope Samus can pull 45% on Cloud....
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:53:23 AM | Message Detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 42.96% 6345
Samus Aran 57.04% 8424
TOTAL VOTES 14769

Samus just started exploding upwards. =)
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:11:50 AM | Message Detail
O_O

I know Samus is Nintendo and Sonic's Day Vote should be weaker, but not to the point where Samus is actually taking it.
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:12:25 AM | Message Detail
She's not just taking it, she's RAPING it.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Aprosenf | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:16:22 AM | Message Detail
As a Sonic fan, this is painful to watch. Well, at least it's not 60-40.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:17:54 AM | Message Detail
She's gain .10% since my last post at this rate she might have a shot on breaking 60%
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: snoocete | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:18:36 AM | Message Detail
Well, at least it's not 60-40.

It was, earlier. And if the day vote doesn't swing the percentage to Sonic's favor, we may see Samus get that 60% by nightfall. O_O
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From: Agent M | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:24:46 AM | Message Detail
This is good. Samus could hit 60% at this rate.

If Samus can't beat Cloud, I'd be happy to see her do better than Sephiroth. That might land her at #3 overall, I'll wait and see what Mega Man does.
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Current score 107/120 :( Next match: GO SAMUS!!!!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:41:51 AM | Message Detail
Samus broke 57.50%

She might even break 58% before I go to school
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:47:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, Samus is doing right around where she's expected.

If Sonic really has grown stronger, than I guess she's taken one helluva boost between this contest and last...
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:57:31 AM | Message Detail
...and she gained about .20% in the time it took me to type out that post.

O_O
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:58:50 AM | Message Detail
57.80%

I can safely say Samus has gotten the day vote.

Does anyone think this match being on a school day has made Sonic weaker since most kids in NA are at school
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:58:53 AM | Message Detail
...Damn. Looks like she's falling again.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:03:25 AM | Message Detail
3000 lead, bye bye Sonic.
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Jon Thomson - today: Samus, tomorrow: Link - 104/120
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:16:28 AM | Message Detail
Another easy predictable victory just like the rest of them this round...

I am sorry but these easy final match predictions really are no fun to watch :(
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From: ff6man | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:23:46 AM | Message Detail
Well my bracket is trashed, but I'm glad both samus and crono were the ones to screw me over, couldn't have seen better characters take it. ;-)

Now I hope Samus does decent against Cloud. = \
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:28:34 AM | Message Detail
O_O

I leave for 25 min and Samus gain almost .4%
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:47:05 AM | Message Detail
I actually have a theory on how much Snake's sprite pic loses him votes, but I have to wait and see what Samus gets on Cloud next round to see if it's true or not.
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:50:36 AM | Message Detail
I want AC Cloud vs. Dark Suit Samus for next round. Badly.

Over 58%... geesh. I don't think I've ever seen a Sonic character suck in the day vote like it was a cult character before.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:53:55 AM | Message Detail
Didin't Sonic lose the Day vote against Cloud?
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:54:31 AM | Message Detail
I think it was split evenly. Not a raping of such proportions.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:01:39 AM | Message Detail
seems like Samus is starting to settle
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:04:17 AM | Message Detail
Samus is really laying the smack down on Sonic. I'm thinking Samus-Seph this year would have been very close, and next year, a Samus win. Or am I just over-optimistic?
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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:15:33 AM | Message Detail
00:00 | Sonic | 00051 | +0051 | 39.53% | Samus | 00078 | +0078 | 60.47% | Lead of 0027 | (Up 27)
00:15 | Sonic | 00462 | +0411 | 41.89% | Samus | 00641 | +0563 | 58.11% | Lead of 0179 | (Up 152)
00:30 | Sonic | 00758 | +0296 | 41.49% | Samus | 01069 | +0428 | 58.51% | Lead of 0311 | (Up 132)
00:45 | Sonic | 00912 | +0154 | 41.36% | Samus | 01293 | +0224 | 58.64% | Lead of 0381 | (Up 70)
01:00 | Sonic | 01269 | +0357 | 42.26% | Samus | 01734 | +0441 | 57.74% | Lead of 0465 | (Up 84)
01:15 | Sonic | 01488 | +0219 | 42.56% | Samus | 02008 | +0274 | 57.44% | Lead of 0520 | (Up 55)
01:30 | Sonic | 01708 | +0220 | 42.83% | Samus | 02280 | +0272 | 57.17% | Lead of 0572 | (Up 52)
01:45 | Sonic | 01899 | +0191 | 42.87% | Samus | 02531 | +0251 | 57.13% | Lead of 0632 | (Up 60)
02:00 | Sonic | 02071 | +0172 | 42.97% | Samus | 02749 | +0218 | 57.03% | Lead of 0678 | (Up 46)
02:15 | Sonic | 02247 | +0176 | 43.08% | Samus | 02969 | +0220 | 56.92% | Lead of 0722 | (Up 44)
02:30 | Sonic | 02430 | +0183 | 43.18% | Samus | 03197 | +0228 | 56.82% | Lead of 0767 | (Up 45)
02:45 | Sonic | 02618 | +0188 | 43.59% | Samus | 03388 | +0191 | 56.41% | Lead of 0770 | (Up 3)
03:00 | Sonic | 02796 | +0178 | 43.45% | Samus | 03639 | +0251 | 56.55% | Lead of 0843 | (Up 73)
03:15 | Sonic | 03014 | +0218 | 43.47% | Samus | 03920 | +0281 | 56.53% | Lead of 0906 | (Up 63)
03:30 | Sonic | 03258 | +0244 | 43.77% | Samus | 04185 | +0265 | 56.23% | Lead of 0927 | (Up 21)
03:45 | Sonic | 03540 | +0282 | 43.75% | Samus | 04551 | +0366 | 56.25% | Lead of 1011 | (Up 84)
04:00 | Sonic | 03817 | +0277 | 43.61% | Samus | 04936 | +0385 | 56.39% | Lead of 1119 | (Up 108)
04:15 | Sonic | 04141 | +0324 | 43.63% | Samus | 05351 | +0415 | 56.37% | Lead of 1210 | (Up 91)
04:30 | Sonic | 04447 | +0306 | 43.46% | Samus | 05785 | +0434 | 56.54% | Lead of 1338 | (Up 128)
04:45 | Sonic | 04812 | +0365 | 43.43% | Samus | 06267 | +0482 | 56.57% | Lead of 1455 | (Up 117)
05:00 | Sonic | 05149 | +0337 | 43.61% | Samus | 06659 | +0392 | 56.39% | Lead of 1510 | (Up 55)
05:15 | Sonic | 05532 | +0383 | 43.54% | Samus | 07175 | +0516 | 56.46% | Lead of 1643 | (Up 133)
05:30 | Sonic | 05875 | +0343 | 43.38% | Samus | 07668 | +0493 | 56.62% | Lead of 1793 | (Up 150)
05:45 | Sonic | 06184 | +0309 | 43.15% | Samus | 08147 | +0479 | 56.85% | Lead of 1963 | (Up 170)
06:00 | Sonic | 06504 | +0320 | 42.89% | Samus | 08660 | +0513 | 57.11% | Lead of 2156 | (Up 193)
06:15 | Sonic | 06868 | +0364 | 42.70% | Samus | 09216 | +0556 | 57.30% | Lead of 2348 | (Up 192)
06:30 | Sonic | 07141 | +0273 | 42.63% | Samus | 09609 | +0393 | 57.37% | Lead of 2468 | (Up 120)
06:45 | Sonic | 07689 | +0548 | 42.40% | Samus | 10447 | +0838 | 57.60% | Lead of 2758 | (Up 290)
07:00 | Sonic | 08044 | +0355 | 42.22% | Samus | 11008 | +0561 | 57.78% | Lead of 2964 | (Up 206)
07:15 | Sonic | 08371 | +0327 | 42.08% | Samus | 11520 | +0512 | 57.92% | Lead of 3149 | (Up 185)
07:30 | Sonic | 08824 | +0453 | 41.80% | Samus | 12284 | +0764 | 58.20% | Lead of 3460 | (Up 311)
07:45 | Sonic | 09254 | +0430 | 41.75% | Samus | 12913 | +0629 | 58.25% | Lead of 3659 | (Up 199)
08:00 | Sonic | 09620 | +0366 | 41.74% | Samus | 13429 | +0516 | 58.26% | Lead of 3809 | (Up 150)

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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:18:48 AM | Message Detail
Samus's most recent updates:

"Updates Left: 69
Samus's % last update: 60.46%

"Updates Left: 68
Samus's % last update: 61.24%

"Updates Left: 67
Samus's % last update: 61.03%

"Updates Left: 66
Samus's % last update: 62.78%

"Updates Left: 65
Samus's % last update: 59.40%

"Updates Left: 64
Samus's % last update: 58.50%

"Updates Left: 63
Samus's % last update: 56.70%

Get back up to 60%+, Samus! =)
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From: NewLib | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:21:06 AM | Message Detail
All the kiddies woke up and voted Samus then went to school. We should see another Samus burst at about 12:30 PST
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:23:26 AM | Message Detail
Can someone who has Firefox set it up so that it reloads every 15 minutes? I'm not at home right now, so I can't do that, and I looks as though I'm the only one checking the updater...

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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:23:36 AM | Message Detail
Nope, time for Samus to go down. Late morning-to-afternoon transition, you know.

Ah, I see that Sonic ALMOST won an update.

Also, if Cloud wins, it appears that The Guvna will win the contest, barring picking Sonic or Mega Man to win today or tomorrow.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:24:56 AM | Message Detail
Ah, I see that Sonic ALMOST won an update.

I prefer this update. ;)

07:30 | Sonic | 08824 | +0453 | 41.80% | Samus | 12284 | +0764 | 58.20% | Lead of 3460 | (Up 311)

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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:32:45 AM | Message Detail
After this I would be even more confident in picking Magus over Sonic.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:35:00 AM | Message Detail
Could this even push Zero up to eighth? These extrapolateds will be fun when they come out.
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Jon Thomson - today: Samus, tomorrow: Link - 104/120
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:36:33 AM | Message Detail
After this I would be even more confident in picking Magus over Sonic.

Why? It says more about the strength of Samus than it does Sonic's weakness.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:43:58 AM | Message Detail
And Sonic is pushing back toward 42%. Day vote, here we come!
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:44:24 AM | Message Detail
Slowflake, Samus can rape anything she damned well pleases.

And did I just see an update where Samus gained 300 votes? NICE. To think, this match was 34 votes apart two years ago...
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:59:01 AM | Message Detail
02:45 | Sonic | 02618 | +0188 | 43.59% | Samus | 03388 | +0191 | 56.41% | Lead of 0770 | (Up 3)

I wish Sonic would have gotten four more votes in this update, so even if Samus continues to decimate Sonic, at least he would still have that one bit of respect.

*casts a sympathy-vote to Sonic*
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:01:47 PM | Message Detail
Sonic's 3D games have killed a lot of respect I would have otherwise had for him.
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From: Dark115 | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:06:06 PM | Message Detail
Sonic to me is just one of those series that had it right in 2D and should've stuck to it, much like Mega Man
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:07:05 PM | Message Detail
Same here, but it's the 2D days that make me sympathize.

On a side-note, in all likelyhood, the final score of Link/Cloud will let Duke Nukem rank between Yoshi and Bowser. Heh.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:23:05 PM | Message Detail
Skimming over the stats, let's assume Sonic finishes with 41.5% of the votes...then Samus gets, say, 45% against Cloud. Regardless of who wins, if the match stayed pretty tight...would that mean Sonic has a real possibility to be between Crono and Mario, closer to Crono?
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:26:59 PM | Message Detail
I'm gonna assume Samus would beat MM about 56-44 (give or take alittle either way) and then say that the Xs could (i repeat could) look something like this:

Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Samus
Megaman
Crono
Sonic
Mario
Zero
Snake
Ryu

Sonic and Mario can be swapped depending on how well samus does on cloud (if it finishes 55-45 then I think sonic will be alittle higher than mario!)
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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:31:05 PM | Message Detail
Why? It says more about the strength of Samus than it does Sonic's weakness.

Samus is beating Sonic in the day vote. It makes me ashamed to be a Sonic fan, seeing a video game icon who, 2 years ago could equal Samus, losing to her without a fight at all. That, coupled with Crono owing Mario all over the place and Frog putting up excellent numbers on Solid ****.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:52:14 PM | Message Detail
Yeah. I'm actually of the opinion that Team Sonic is looking weaker this year than last. They are no doubt putting up better numbers, but they can't seem to win a critical day vote. Sonic still could have pulled it up close today. Shadow could have taken a somewhat commanding lead over Tidus. These things simply didn't happen.

Knux and Tails look certain to rank higher this year than last, Sonic looks like he'll rank about the same, and Shadow looks like he will be lower (and I always said he deserved to be). Overall, not bad, but when you can't win the vote during your strongest hours in the matches that you need to win the most, something is wrong.

Oh, and on the issue of me not being here at nights, I've been working later shifts this week, so I've often gotten home past the 11:00pm mark and just wanted to go to bed.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:54:17 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and who's with me in hoping that Sonic had more support with the uppertiers than Samus? Certainly looks liek more people thought he could go all the way, so I don't see why fate can't smile at me and have more than half of the people 1, 2, or 3 points off with Sonic in their brackets.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Lucid Faia 2 | Posted: 9/30/2004 1:33:15 PM | Message Detail
Sonic's only good 3D game, in my opinion, is Sonic Adventure 2 (Shadow's game), which is actually a very good game. I've played through it before; it's fun.

And I'm glad to hear that Samus is taking the day vote against SONIC. This is great.

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From: rpgapzx | Posted: 9/30/2004 1:47:29 PM | Message Detail
"Sonic to me is just one of those series that had it right in 2D and should've stuck to it, much like Mega Man"

Correct, the only difference is that despite my initial complaints against MML for going non-old school it turned out surprisingly well.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 2:14:43 PM | Message Detail
I've never played a 3D Mega Man game, for as big of a fan as I am of his character. Shame on me...but at least I respect him for what he did best: NES games. =)
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 2:48:15 PM | Message Detail
Now that numbers have become fairly stable, I wanna hear who's ranked from the most likely to least likely to win the contest in your mind. For me...

Link
Cloud
Samus
Mega Man

Also, I revised my bracket some more. Check it out please.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16595445&page=5
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:01:52 PM | Message Detail
Sonic's starting to gain percentage. About damn time.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:03:44 PM | Message Detail
Indeed; I hope Sonic still makes a respectable performance, then Samus gets 45% or better against Cloud...but I'm askin' for too much there.
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From: Lucid Faia 2 | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:07:22 PM | Message Detail
Both Mega Man and Samus have no chance to win at all. Link is a lock to beat Mega Man. He's just too strong. And Samus can't beat Link.

So basically, to win the contest, it's:

Link
Cloud

But I'm still hoping for Samus to threaten Cloud next round.

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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:09:32 PM | Message Detail
Any1 else agree with me that Zero being 1% ahead of snake is worse than magus being 0.01% ahead of Sonic? i also think that sonic will be ranked ahead of both snake and zero this year (assuming taht this match ends somewhere inbetween 58-42 and 57-43).
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:15:54 PM | Message Detail
Any1 else agree with me that Zero being 1% ahead of snake is worse than magus being 0.01% ahead of Sonic?

Agreed; until I see Zero/Solid Snake (or some other form of undeniable truth), I still see Zero as on the verge of making the Noble Nine...but I wish the NN would become the Super Seven, anyways.

i also think that sonic will be ranked ahead of both snake and zero this year

Very well could happen, and it would be justified if it did since Sonic beat Zero last year.
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From: octoinky | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:18:21 PM | Message Detail
zero and snake will be closer together after MM gets creamed by Link. It will scrunch things together, as MM wont be 50 anymore, he'll be more like 40. Well, guess it wont make as much of a difference as I thought it would :).


Would anybody actually put Zero over Snake in their bracket though? If the match was tomorrow, not next year.
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Score: 91/96
Link, Megaman, Cloud, Samus / Link, Cloud / Cloud
From: Lucid Faia 2 | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:18:48 PM | Message Detail
If anything, this contest has proved that there is no such thing as a "Noble Nine," something I have known for a while now. Simply seeing Cloud going from losing to Mario to beating Link in the span of one year tells us that the fan's tastes fluctuate enough so that there is no "untouchable" group of characters.

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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:19:06 PM | Message Detail
Phew! thank you harrich! I was afraid i was the only one thinking that >_>
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From: goku z | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:19:41 PM | Message Detail
This sucks...

I voted Sonic, because I like him more, but I wanted big number by Samus if it wasn't gonna be close...

And now it looks to end at about 58-42. Disappointing on both ends of the spectrum.
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SC2K4 Score: 110/120 Next Tough Pick: Link over Sep...Cloud.
CATS is more well-developed than Cloud. ~ A very wise man, UltarEmpire.
From: goku z | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:21:23 PM | Message Detail
Btw...


2nd Best. Pic. EVAR.
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SC2K4 Score: 110/120 Next Tough Pick: Link over Sep...Cloud.
CATS is more well-developed than Cloud. ~ A very wise man, UltarEmpire.
From: Ma Chao the Wanderer | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:23:29 PM | Message Detail
Now this sucks royally :(

41%? All I can hope now is that Samus has gone up a long way.

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From: Crono801 | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:55:55 PM | Message Detail
48 Crono801 117 Cloud Strife

/joy >_>
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SC2k4: 117/120 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, Jill).
Today's Pick: Samus
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 9/30/2004 3:59:44 PM | Message Detail
No Sonic...............

Ah well at least Slowflake won't close his account (always look at the bright side of life)


I hope Samus will do great against Cloud.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:04:27 PM | Message Detail
Moltar's First Thoughts on: Sonic vs. Samus

I woke up and saw Samus with 56.5%. I had to leave right as she starting to push ahead. Surprised Samus pwned the morning vote.

Now she's at 58%. I see she was higher before, but Sonic's getting that day vote. 58% is good in my eyes. She most likely won't beat Cloud, but she is looking like she could do better than Seph. Excellent!
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Sephiroth vs. Sly - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sonic vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Sonic (116/120)
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:11:19 PM | Message Detail
The thing that makes me the saddest about this match isn't that Sonic is getting raped so bad; rather it's that this crew is cheering Samus on. I am disgusted that so many people in the stats topic NOT ONLY LIKE SAMUS, but like her MORE THAN SONIC.
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SC2K4 ~ 57/59 ~ 115/120
So close yet so far.
From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:14:23 PM | Message Detail
I am disgusted that so many people in the stats topic NOT ONLY LIKE SAMUS, but like her MORE THAN SONIC.

Is that supposed to be an insult? Because I was unaffected. I like both, but I prefer Samus. Sue me if you don't like it, the court will just laugh their ass off at you if you try.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:16:28 PM | Message Detail
And this is surprising... how? Sonic has nothing on Samus. NOTHING.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 112/120 - Matches: 55/59 - Rank: 00485/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:16:28 PM | Message Detail
Of course people here would like Samus more than Sonic. Just by considering the way our brains work, I'd have a hard tiem thinking that Sonic would have an edge over Samus. Metroid is a much more complex game. We tend to like things that are a bit more difficult here, somehting that works our minds more than our reflexes. Besides, in the last few years Sonic has been going down the tubes as a character, and his games are dropping quality even faster. He didn't transition well from 2D to 3D, and even a lot of his fans wish he could go back. On the other hand Metroid works pretty damn well in 3D, though not as well as 2D, and the transition was a success. The quality of her games haven't gone up, but they aren't going down either, and he quality and recognizability as a character are also going up. Quite simply, I don't know why people would still favor Sonic so much. His glory days are over, they are nevre comming back, and I imagine if this contest continues for another 10 years he'll be the first to drop from elite status.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:17:05 PM | Message Detail
Tournament Semifinals: Final 4 - Match 61 – (1)Link vs. (1)Mega Man

Moltar’s Analysis

Link - Watch out Robin Hood!

Round 1 – vs. CATS (Link: 87.83% - CATS: 12.17%)
Round 2 – vs. Ganondorf (Link: 87.90% - Ganondorf: 12.10%)
Round 3 – vs. Yoshi (Link: 81.74% - Yoshi: 18.26%)
Round 4 – vs. Crono (Link: 62.82% - Crono: 37.18%)

Link takes out Crono big time. Looking very nice going into this match.

Mega Man - X……….You wish =P

Round 1 – vs. Earthworm Jim (Mega Man: 82.98% - Jim: 17.02%)
Round 2 – vs. Tidus (Mega Man: 64.78% - Tidus: 35.22%)
Round 3 – vs. Zero (Mega Man: 56.01% - Zero: 43.99%)
Round 4 – vs. Snake (Mega Man: 57.19% - Snake: 42.81%)

Mega beats Snake by more than he did last year. Good job by him.

Link vs. Mega Man, another match we haven’t seen before. Not much to analyze here too, but whatever. Let’s try to switch things up.

In 2002, Link won the Contest, in 2003, he lost to Cloud. In 2002 and 2003, Mega Man lost to Sephiroth. Both Link and Cloud have beaten Sephiroth in the past. Where is this going? I don’t know.

Anyway, Link has shown us so far that he is stronger than last year. He SFF’d Ganon and Yoshi to hell, and then whooped Crono. Mega looked extremely well against Jim and Tidus, but against Zero….nope. And his performance against Snake was the nail in the coffin. Link moves on to the finals! I’ll be nice to Mega though and give him a couple extra points in my prediction.

Moltar’s Bracket says: Link will win

Moltar’s Prediction is: Link 59% - Mega Man 41%



Ulti's Analysis

Sephiroth beat Mega Man 60-40 last year. Link took down Crono 63-37 this year. I believe Crono to be stronger than Mega Man, and I also have a hard time believing that Mega Man will even come close to breaking 40% on Link when he couldn't even manage 40% on Sephiroth.

That said, Mega Man should do worse than Crono. Hard to believe, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a 65-35 match. Sucks too, because Mega Man doesn't deserve that.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Link/Link with 65.01%
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Sephiroth vs. Sly - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sonic vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Sonic (116/120)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:17:24 PM | Message Detail
Cena’s Analysis

Both parties were expected to win their own divisions, so there's nothing unexpected here. Link, who's won the contest before, lost in this round last year against Cloud Strife, in what was probably considered an uspet at the time. That was on account of a cel-shaded game as well as "anti-voting" the winner, just to see a new champion crowned. This year, the rules are different (much like Sasquatch). Link's pictures are in their newer 3D model form from the latest installment of The Legend of Zelda and since he didn't win last year, a lot of the people who voted against him repeating will probably stop doing that this year. His opponent is Mega Man. There's not too much you can say about him to compare to Link. Mega Man's been in countless games, in many different forms, fighting many different Robot Masters along the way. I personally like Rock much better than Link. He's got a vibe that just makes you think awesome whenever you see him. His battle pictures are awesome, his weapons are awesome, his suit is awesome, and he actually talks.

That's awesome too! Mega's games are classic, even more-so than the many Legend of Zelda games, in my opinion. The challenge in them is almost insurmountable by any of the other games that were in the same time frame. The edge should go to Mega Man, easily, but it won't. Period. Even though Mega Man beat Snake by a slightly larger margin than expected, he squeaked by his counter-part Zero. To add insult to injury, Link completely dominated Crono, who had so much support and actually took Mario to hell and back in the match before. The matches belonged to Link, and we already know the elf's popularity to say that Link should and will win this match with barely effort at all.

Cena’s Vote: Mega Man

Cena’s Prediction: Link with 60% (I'm sure hoping that the Capcom fanboys come out in full force, but I'm doubting it)
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Sephiroth vs. Sly - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sonic vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Sonic (116/120)
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:17:55 PM | Message Detail
I am disgusted that so many people in the stats topic NOT ONLY LIKE SAMUS, but like her MORE THAN SONIC.

Why? In the past two years, almost everything Sonic has been ripped to shreds by Sega and Archie Comics. The only good thing that Sonic has done since 2K2 is the Sonic Advance games.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:19:58 PM | Message Detail
And due to that analysis, Imma say Ulti has gone off the deep end. I thought he was a tad touched when I saw that he had proposed the idea that we retire champions, now he's predicting that Link will get a full 3% more on Mega Man then he did last year? I can understand 3% more on Crono than expected, but not on Mega Man. That's just plain crazy.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Crono801 | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:26:21 PM | Message Detail
I perfer Sonic to Samus.
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SC2k4: 117/120 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, Jill).
Today's Pick: Samus
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:35:55 PM | Message Detail
Is that supposed to be an insult? Because I was unaffected. I like both, but I prefer Samus. Sue me if you don't like it, the court will just laugh their ass off at you if you try.

Yes, because clearly I was trying to pass off my opinion *GASP I ACTUALLY SAID IT OMG WTF* as fact. And I clearly am trying to insult you and attack you and make you feel terrible. I am clearly TRYING to change your opinion. You're amazing.

And this is surprising... how?

It's not. I've known this for most of the contest now. It's just that my favorite character not from Square or Nintendo is losing miserably and everyone is mourning that he's not doing worse. It doesn't help that he is losing to a character that I despise, or that this was once a close match.

ChichiriMuyo... why do you play games? I play games for entertainment. I play games for fun. Metroid is far too boring for my tastes. Not to mention that I haven't played 3D Sonic much, so I prefer to pretend it doesn't exist and just to remember one of the greatest gaming series ever.

Why? In the past two years, almost everything Sonic has been ripped to shreds by Sega and Archie Comics. The only good thing that Sonic has done since 2K2 is the Sonic Advance games.

I prefer to think of the best of a character, not the worst. I love the Genesis Sonic games. I enjoyed no Metroid game. And Sonic is by virtue a much cooler character than Samus.

Expected response:

WHOAMG I JUST MADE AN OPINION LOLZ TEHERE IS NO EVIDENCE. ROFFLE I WAS PWNT.

I perfer Sonic to Samus.

Coming from a guy who has Crono in his username, I'd say that's very cool ~_^

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SC2K4 ~ 57/59 ~ 115/120
So close yet so far.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:43:46 PM | Message Detail
Hah! Ulti thinks Crono is stronger than Mega Man? XP
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:47:13 PM | Message Detail
65% on Megaman is quite a feat if Link can accomplish it.. However, I just don't see that happening..

Link - 61%
Megaman - 49%

I am hoping that the capcom fans will be in full force when the match starts.. Come on Megaman, BREAK 45%!!!!

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: Crono801 | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:47:44 PM | Message Detail
I registered my name before the guy with the name "Crono" registered his... I thought this was a big site and assumed it would be taken >_>. Big regret.


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SC2k4: 117/120 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, Jill).
Today's Pick: Samus
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:51:23 PM | Message Detail
From the looks of things Samus didn't have trouble totally taking the day vote into her own hands. I left here when she was at 57.04% and now she's at 57.9%. Once the night vote hits it won't be surprising at all to see her well above 58%. If Sonic didn't increase this is ~4% better than last year's X-sts would have her at. If Sonic increased, somehow, then it would look even better. Either way, it's a solid performance from Samus today. Now I'd love to see her put up great numbers against Cloud in two days. =)
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:53:48 PM | Message Detail
She is actually losing a little of the day vote now...

Her peak was 58.26% (I think).

Gooooo MUS!
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:56:55 PM | Message Detail
Crono.. that sucks =\

I would LOVE to see Samus bomb against Cloud. I'm beginning to think that everything this board says is wrong. (Not directly speaking about hte stats topic)

This is my beef with the board:

- Basically if a game is good and people notice it then it's "WTF IT'S OVERRATED ______ IS BETTER."
- People will support characters before they're popular and turn on them immediately.
- Some people here don't like Chrono Trigger/FFVII.
- "OMG CLOUd AND SEpHIROTH AND LIkn ARE GIRLY MEN!"
- Most people are so bitter about their favorites that they PRETEND not to like the best characters.
- Elitism.
- CATS.

The following things I have CONSISTENTLY heard from the board that I agree with:
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SC2K4 ~ 57/59 ~ 115/120
So close yet so far.
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 4:59:16 PM | Message Detail
65% on Mega Man? HAH!

Though, the 62% on Crono was unexpected too 0_o

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SC2K4 ~ 57/59 ~ 115/120
So close yet so far.
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:00:38 PM | Message Detail
The following things I have CONSISTENTLY heard from the board that I agree with:
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Then the simplest solution would be to leave then, wouldn't it? If you're hanging around a place that's so contrary to your viewpoints, why do you stay here?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:02:33 PM | Message Detail
I would LOVE to see Samus bomb against Cloud.

I wouldn't. The better she does this year, the better the upset will be next year. Out of every character of "elite" status I'd say Samus would be receiving the biggest increase within the coming year. A great performance from Samus this year stretches out how many winners we could have in the future... ;)
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:06:14 PM | Message Detail
So what's everyone's prediction for the next two matches?

Link - 61
Megaman - 49
(although I am severely hoping Megaman can upset Link or at least break 45%)

Cloud - 60
Samus - 40
(okay, maybe 60 is high but that's what I think)

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:07:19 PM | Message Detail
Link - 57%
Mega Man - 43%

Cloud - 56%
Samus - 45%
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:07:44 PM | Message Detail
"ChichiriMuyo... why do you play games?"

I don't play them as much anymore, but I play for the challenge, excitement, and entertainment they bring me.

"Metroid is far too boring for my tastes."

A typical opinion of someone who would prefer a game like Sonic that requires a lot of reflexes. It's slower, you have to do much, much more exploring, and the game challenges your wits more than your ability to react. For this reason you would probably say that you prefer say Gran Turismo over Resident Evil. They require two different styles of play.

I personally play music games, fighting games, and role playing games. Music games allow me to memorize the note patterns, so eventually I can get past the part where I have to react quickly and then I just react naturally. Role Playing requires a lot of thought but very rarely does it require quick reflexes. And fighting games, well, I'm not that great at them, because they aren't necessarily my type of game. I actully like fighting games more for their variety of characters and all that goodness than the twitch factor. And, thankfully, with practice you can have enough skill that the twitch factor isn't devestating anyway. However, in a game like Sonic where the experience doesn't change much each time you play and I have no means to test my skills agaisnt another human being I don't feel any incentive to get the practice necessary to overcome the twitch factor.

"Not to mention that I haven't played 3D Sonic much, so I prefer to pretend it doesn't exist and just to remember one of the greatest gaming series ever."

Yeah, I played it, it ruined everything for me. I don't know how a compnay can make games like the original Sonics and NiGHTS then throw trash like Sonic Adventure at me.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: octoinky | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:08:03 PM | Message Detail
2004-09-30 11:33:57 15363 21616 41.55% 58.45% 6253

58.45% is the peak as recorded in the poll vote total updater.

My prediction for tomorrow is at 61%
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Score: 91/96
Link, Megaman, Cloud, Samus / Link, Cloud / Cloud
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:08:25 PM | Message Detail
The only way Samus will ever win a contest is if she doesn't have to face Link at any point. That would require having her on the opposite side of the bracket and have Link vs. Cloud in the semifinals.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:08:27 PM | Message Detail
Cloud - 56%
Samus - 45%


Split on opinions, are we? ;)

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SC2K4 ~ 57/59 ~ 115/120
So close yet so far.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:09:45 PM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario is hoping for a flaw in mathematics to give Samus her 45% 'cause that's the only way she'll get it.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:09:51 PM | Message Detail
Then the simplest solution would be to leave then, wouldn't it? If you're hanging around a place that's so contrary to your viewpoints, why do you stay here?

I dunno. I'll probably be leaving a bit after Link vs Cloud, and if need be, I'll stay till I pay off my sig bet.

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SC2K4 ~ 57/59 ~ 115/120
So close yet so far.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:11:38 PM | Message Detail
The only way Samus will ever win a contest is if she doesn't have to face Link at any point. That would require having her on the opposite side of the bracket and have Link vs. Cloud in the semifinals.

Yet that is unlikely because? Considering these two are the finalists this year says would tell CJayC to make so that both of them wouldn't be capable of getting right back to the finals this year. It's not at all unlikely to me, and what I was actually banking on for next year. It would surprise me if they weren't on the same side of the bracket next year.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:11:43 PM | Message Detail
Yes, because clearly I was trying to pass off my opinion *GASP I ACTUALLY SAID IT OMG WTF* as fact. And I clearly am trying to insult you and attack you and make you feel terrible. I am clearly TRYING to change your opinion. You're amazing.

I knew it...

;p
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:12:15 PM | Message Detail
Make that, 56-44%
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:13:31 PM | Message Detail
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:07:19 PM | Message Detail
Link - 57%
Mega Man - 43%


OMGWTFBBQ!!!
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros
From: octoinky | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:13:41 PM | Message Detail
next year, I say Link Cloud and Seph ALL go on the same side of the bracket. Then put Mario, Samus, MegaMan, Crono, Snake, Sonic, and Magus on the other side, and lets see some killer matches =P
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Score: 91/96
Link, Megaman, Cloud, Samus / Link, Cloud / Cloud
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:14:22 PM | Message Detail
Yet that is unlikely because? Considering these two are the finalists this year says would tell CJayC to make so that both of them wouldn't be capable of getting right back to the finals this year.

Why wouldn't CJayC want his two biggest draws to be in the finals every year?
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 75
From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:15:15 PM | Message Detail
Why wouldn't CJayC want his two biggest draws to be in the finals every year?

Ask him why, they just met yesterday.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:15:50 PM | Message Detail
Link is a bigger draw than Sephiroth.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:15:56 PM | Message Detail
Why wouldn't CJayC want his two biggest draws to be in the finals every year?

I'd hope he would realize just how predictable it becomes if he continues to allow them in the finals. It's just about obvious to everyone else.
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A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:16:03 PM | Message Detail
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:16:43 PM | Message Detail
Explain yourself Leonhart.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:17:03 PM | Message Detail
"Heroic Mario is hoping for a flaw in mathematics to give Samus her 45% 'cause that's the only way she'll get it."

That's a rediculous statement. At current Samus is beating Sonic by about 2% more than expected. If Sonic increased in the last year as much as Dante shows then I can't see Samus getting less than 41% against Cloud. If Sonic's match with Dante missed anything at all, be it Capcom SFF last year or a small Dante increase since last year, that increases. I wouldn't actually be surprised about 45% on Cloud, and I'm expecting no less than 43%
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:20:37 PM | Message Detail
Using RPGuy's Excel program to do some mathematical values...

Assuming a static Sonic, and at his current percentage of 42.21%, Samus is expected to get 40.02% on Cloud.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:23:51 PM | Message Detail
Unless you put Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth all on one side of the bracket you'll get the 2003 final again. >.>
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:24:52 PM | Message Detail
Likewise, assuming Sonic's overperformance on Dante was all him increasing, then Samus's current performance would be expected to net her 42.6% on Cloud. Still, there's plenty of time for the percentage to move either way, so we'll see.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:26:10 PM | Message Detail
Unless you put Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth all on one side of the bracket you'll get the 2003 final again. >.>

I'd take Aran over Sephiroth, next year.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:26:59 PM | Message Detail
Unless, of course, Dante is underrated in 2k3. There's still the chance that Samus can hit 45% on Cloud. Slim, no doubt, but it doesn't require somethign as dramatic as "a flaw in mathematics".
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:28:42 PM | Message Detail
Also, going by those same numbers, Sora's max strength is right below Zelda now, unless I made a mathematical error.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:29:38 PM | Message Detail
but it doesn't require somethign as dramatic as "a flaw in mathematics".

Ahem, I said that jokingly because Heroic Mario's prediction had the total percentage at 101.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:31:47 PM | Message Detail
"I'd take Aran over Sephiroth, next year."

I'd only do that if I were assuming that nothing fishy went on with Seph's match agaisnt Cloud this year. I do, however, think something happened and that Seph would still have a very, very close match agaisnt Link 2k3 (I'm assuming Link might have increased).

Also, since I mentioned it, Link possibly increasing that is, I recall it being said that Link 2k4 would score 55% on Link 2k3. I'm not sure who said it, or why, but based on his performance agaisnt Crono shouldn't it be something more realistic like say, 51.29%?
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: tnote827 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:37:27 PM | Message Detail
So depressing... only three more matches before the contest hibernates for another half year <tear>
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From: Mister Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:41:16 PM | Message Detail
Why wouldn't CJayC want his two biggest draws to be in the finals every year?

I'd hope he would realize just how predictable it becomes if he continues to allow them in the finals. It's just about obvious to everyone else.


It's only predictable to the stat topic regulars. If you don't want it to be predictable, don't go to the stat topics, because it's not the characters that are boring, it's memorising everysingle little statistic that is. If people didn't analyse the statistics of '03, how well do you think people would have done this year?

And with results like the ones we have, you know that it's only 500ish people who really find this contest predictable. There are another 44,500 brackets to cater for, y'know.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:45:14 PM | Message Detail
It's only predictable to the stat topic regulars.

No it's not. Nearly everyone has predicted this year's final perfectly and missed very few matches inbetween. With a Link/Cloud victory this year it's pretty much guaranteeing a 188+ bracket out of 192. That's quite predictable wouldn't you say?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:45:23 PM | Message Detail
"If people didn't analyse the statistics of '03, how well do you think people would have done this year?"

I have a bracket I made that ignored stats and went solely by what I considered common sense, with two major upsets for the hell of it and me intentionally picking Laharl even though I knew he wouldn't win. It missed 3 matches, not including Crono over Link and Seph over Cloud upsets I knew wouldn't happen. The matches were just too easy this year, stats or no.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:46:47 PM | Message Detail
Sorry, my bad, I missed four. forgot that I took Luigi over Yoshi in that other bracket. A legitimate chance for upset that also was bound to fail.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:47:29 PM | Message Detail
Somebody named Cloud or Link getting to the finals every year is pretty obvious anyway, wouldn't you say? At least get your two biggest draws into the finals and let them duke it out in hopes of a good match instead of a dull 60/40 match.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:50:44 PM | Message Detail
Also, since I mentioned it, Link possibly increasing that is, I recall it being said that Link 2k4 would score 55% on Link 2k3. I'm not sure who said it, or why, but based on his performance agaisnt Crono shouldn't it be something more realistic like say, 51.29%?

The assumption is made that Mario didn't move. If Mario didn't move, Crono has to go up. This improvement is factored into Link's victory over Crono improving Link's score even more.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:51:15 PM | Message Detail
Explain yourself Leonhart.

Sure thing.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1365

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1367

23,000 vote difference. Link vs. Cloud was the biggest match in this contest's history by far. Mario-Crono II was the 2nd highest total, and it's still over 14,000 off.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:52:33 PM | Message Detail
ChichiriMuyo... why do you play games? I play games for entertainment. I play games for fun. Metroid is far too boring for my tastes. Not to mention that I haven't played 3D Sonic much, so I prefer to pretend it doesn't exist and just to remember one of the greatest gaming series ever.

Sonic...one of the greatest series ever?

*struggles to hold in laughter*
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:53:32 PM | Message Detail
Individually Speh and Cloud are a lot more meaningful, though. When you put them both in one match it detracts from both of them. Link vs. Cloud is a bigger draw than Seph vs. Cloud, but that doens't necessarily mean that Link is a bigger draw than Seph.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:54:46 PM | Message Detail
Individually Speh and Cloud are a lot more meaningful, though. When you put them both in one match it detracts from both of them. Link vs. Cloud is a bigger draw than Seph vs. Cloud, but that doens't necessarily mean that Link is a bigger draw than Seph.

Thanks for putting my thoughts into words Chichiri.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:54:56 PM | Message Detail
Somebody named Cloud or Link getting to the finals every year is pretty obvious anyway, wouldn't you say?

One of them getting there is fine. Both of them getting there would just become downright repetitive. Besides, I don't know why one would want to see both of them in the finals every year. Seeing it once is awesome, but having to see it more than that is just stupid. Not like it matters when we'll be seeing Samus in the finals against one of them anyway. Heh.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:57:18 PM | Message Detail
Well, it's either see Cloud vs. Link in the Elite Eight, the Final Four, or the Finals. Take your pick.

As far as Link being a bigger draw than Sephiroth, Link's last two matches rank in the top 5 in total votes. The only match that Sephiroth has been involved in that even broke 90,000 votes was the one he lost yesterday to Cloud.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:59:06 PM | Message Detail
Well, it's either see Cloud vs. Link in the Elite Eight, the Final Four, or the Finals. Take your pick.

An Elite Eight match between the two is quite tempting, just because of how much it opens up three other spots in the final four. Although the most likely thing would be Final Four.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:59:18 PM | Message Detail
The only match that Sephiroth has been involved in that even broke 90,000 votes was the one he lost yesterday to Cloud.

He faced 1 fodder character and 3 Square characters. Same Fanbase battles rarely do well in vote totals, Cloud/Seph is an exception though, but Vivi/Seph and Auron/Seph could've made non-Square fans abstain.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:59:56 PM | Message Detail
I also didn't say Seph is a bigger draw than Link. But, for all we know, Link's bigger match totals may not be because he is a bigger draw than Seph but because his opponent's are bigger than Seph's. I love Vivi, but I don't see him being as big of a draw as, say, Yoshi. He could beat Yoshi, but he doesn't necessarily draw the casual voters as much.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:00:09 PM | Message Detail
And Link vs. Yoshi was a humongous SFF blowout, and it got more votes than his match against Crono.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:01:09 PM | Message Detail
And Link vs. Yoshi was a humongous SFF blowout, and it got more votes than his match against Crono.

In the words of Crono: ...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:01:41 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, Yoshi also didn't get SFF'd to hell and back, which leads me to beleive he is capable of drawing in more of his own voters than the average character. He may not be an absolute powerhouse, but he's probably one of the biggest draws in the contest nonetheless.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:02:25 PM | Message Detail
And that's not to say Yoshi didn't face SFF, he just didn't take it up the ass like a lot of others have.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:03:40 PM | Message Detail
Neither of Yoshi's previous matches broke 80,000. Even with another pretty big draw in Luigi, he couldn't break 80,000. I seem to recall his matches against Conker and Bowser having poor vote totals (by 2003 standards) as well.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:05:49 PM | Message Detail
Neither of Yoshi's matches broke 100,000 last year, but Yoshi hasn't been given high profile opponents to face. Ryo and Conker are fodder, and Bowser and Luigi are same fanbase matches.
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:05:55 PM | Message Detail
I distinctly recall Phediuk as being one of those who was sure that Samus would beat Cloud.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:08:49 PM | Message Detail
Samus deserves to win this contest in my mind, but she's gonna need a Zelda 10 delay, AC to flop or not get many new fans, and MP2 and MPH to put her popularity way above what she has now. Considering she's not working off of a new game from an 8 year hiatus anymore, I can't see her gaining enough...

;_;
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:10:36 PM | Message Detail
but she's gonna need a Zelda 10 delay,

This is almost for certain. Make no mistake, Nintendo is going to want Zelda 10 to sell them systems and reap the profit during the holiday season. Plus, it allows for them to get out the international release they are wanting...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:13:36 PM | Message Detail
Nintendo isn't about q4 sales. They are intelligent enough to know that a game released in the middle of the summer will still sell if it's a good enough game. They probably have something just as big planned for next year's q4 as next year's q2. Hmm, what could be as big as a new Zelda...
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:15:49 PM | Message Detail
Hmm, what could be as big as a new Zelda...

The next Pokemon or Mario.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:17:50 PM | Message Detail
Nintendo isn't about q4 sales. They are intelligent enough to know that a game released in the middle of the summer will still sell if it's a good enough game.

Yet they haven't had any sort of intention of putting the game out during the middle of summer. The "June 1, 2005" date happened to come from GameFAQs, and those are never the most reliable of sources. Eiji Aonuma said, "you'll be able to play it [Zelda] to your hearts content at the next E3". I wouldn't imagine them releasing the game during the middle of summer after E3, now it's certainly possible but I wouldn't bank on it.

They probably have something just as big planned for next year's q4 as next year's q2. Hmm, what could be as big as a new Zelda...

If you were hinting at Super Mario 128 I wouldn't put my money on it. While it's still possible for it to be released on the GameCube Nintendo will probably push the game back to be a launch game on the Revolution. That was the main reason for not showing this year. The platform was undecided.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:19:10 PM | Message Detail
Hmm, what could be as big as a new Zelda...

SF: Armada? Pokémon Online? Super Smash Bros. 3?
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From: sidharta | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:23:52 PM | Message Detail
Samus is doing better than what I expected, even breaking the 58% ceiling prediction I gave her yesterday at one point.

However, I really hope for her to bomb against Cloud.

Link is looking better this year, and he already crushed a supposedly improved Crono.

If Cloud can't get 60% on a supposedly improved Samus tomorrow, he has NO chance at Link.

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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:32:00 PM | Message Detail
Am I the only one who's interested in the fact that Seph has been part of both of the contest matches where exact percentages were shown at the end of the match?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:34:12 PM | Message Detail
If Cloud can't get 60% on a supposedly improved Samus tomorrow,

Supposedly? Outdoing projections in all of her matches doesn't signify an improvement? Even today is a good 4% better than what the X-sts had last year and nearly 8% better than 2002. Judging from this year's performances by Sonic, he has either stayed the same or gone up.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:34:21 PM | Message Detail
Oh wait...Frog/MC was one too...well Seph was in the other two!
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:43:24 PM | Message Detail
Samus will get either 41% or 43% against Cloud. If she gets 41% then that means Dante's drop was because of Snake vs. Ryu match in round 3 with sprites. (It gives us some idea on how much Frog overperformed
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From: sidharta | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:44:06 PM | Message Detail
Supposedly? Outdoing projections in all of her matches doesn't signify an improvement? Even today is a good 4% better than what the X-sts had last year and nearly 8% better than 2002. Judging from this year's performances by Sonic, he has either stayed the same or gone up.

Well, do we KNOW for sure?
Are you 100% SURE that she has, in fact, increased?

I know that she has most likely increased, but until the whole thing ends, I have no guarantee.

But that's not my main point anyway.

If Cloud didn't increase, which would be shown by keeping the same percentage on an improved Samus, he has NO chance against Link.

That's why I HOPE he will break 60% on an improved Samus, as unlikely as it may be.

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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 75
From: outback | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:45:33 PM | Message Detail
I haven't gotten much feedback on this bracket and I'm looking for some more. I posted this in the last one too, but here it is again.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16604459
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:45:45 PM | Message Detail
If Cloud didn't increase, which would be shown by keeping the same percentage on an improved Samus, he has NO chance against Link.

I thought getting the same % expected last year against an improved version of the opponent meant the character improved.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:47:30 PM | Message Detail
Well, do we KNOW for sure?
Are you 100% SURE that she has, in fact, increased?


Unless you want to believe every single one of her opponents went down, then yes. Remember, you would be telling me that Sonic went down after showing no sign whatsoever of doing so and that Lara Croft/Sam Fisher went down to the level of CATS. I'm sorry, but the fact that she has overperformed in every match up to this point obviously points to an increase.

I know that she has most likely increased, but until the whole thing ends, I have no guarantee.

Fair enough.

If Cloud didn't increase, which would be shown by keeping the same percentage on an improved Samus, he has NO chance against Link.

Cloud doesn't looked to have increased at all and why would Cloud have no chance if he doesn't break 60% on an improved Samus?
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:49:56 PM | Message Detail
If Sonic is static and this performance is all a Samus increase, the percentage will be very close to a 60/40 win for Cloud. If Sonic's overperformance against Dante was all him increasing, Cloud should win with 57-58%.

Also, Sonic is increasing in percentage. Come on, go for 43%!
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:51:42 PM | Message Detail
If Sonic is static and this performance is all a Samus increase, the percentage will be very close to a 60/40 win for Cloud. If Sonic's overperformance against Dante was all him increasing, Cloud should win with 57-58%.

Samus was only expected to get 36.72% on Cloud last year, so a 60/40 win for Cloud on an improved Samus is nothing to sneeze at.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:52:42 PM | Message Detail
Also, Sonic is increasing in percentage. Come on, go for 43%!

58% for Samus by the time the poll is over. ;)
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From: sidharta | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:52:56 PM | Message Detail
I thought getting the same % expected last year against an improved version of the opponent meant the character improved.

Sorry, let me refrase:

If Cloud can't keep the same percentage like last year against an improved Samus, then he hasn't increased.

If he hasn't increased, then he doesn't have a chance against Link, who has increased significantly.

That's why I'm hoping that Cloud will be able to break 60% against an improved Samus.

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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:53:25 PM | Message Detail
Actually, no. This poll is working in reverse. Samus wins the day vote, and Sonic wins the evening vote.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:54:27 PM | Message Detail
Actually, no. This poll is working in reverse. Samus wins the day vote, and Sonic wins the evening vote.

Hah! From what I'm aware Samus was quite dominate last night, there's no reason for her not to be dominate later tonight. No reverse here, just Samus being in complete control.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:54:39 PM | Message Detail
Actually, no. This poll is working in reverse. Samus wins the day vote, and Sonic wins the evening vote.

Carriers have arrived at Soviet Russia.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:56:29 PM | Message Detail
Samus was dominant? Not really. Her peak last night isn't all that much higher than her peak during the day vote.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 9/30/2004 6:59:49 PM | Message Detail
Actually, no. This poll is working in reverse. Samus wins the day vote, and Sonic wins the evening vote.

It's working the way it's supposed to, at least IMO.

This is around the time where schools all across the US gradually let out, it's "kiddie-after-school" vote time.

This is also the beginning of office workers coming home from work, the "adults-from-work" vote.

Which should eventually stop Sonic's advance and probably even reverse it until the night vote kicks in.

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September 29th, 2004: Once again, destiny(Cloud) has destroyed fate(Sephiroth).
From: meche313 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:00:31 PM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario, are you ready to see how MegaMan is getting crush tomorrow? Just about 8hours from it...I can already smell it...
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:01:20 PM | Message Detail
It's 7:00 P.M. EST. Even the schools on the west coast have been out for at least half an hour.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:03:17 PM | Message Detail
65% for Link against Mega Man is not out of the question. Link is clearly a step above Sephiroth, and outdoing him by 5% is likely. Don't laugh at me about that prediction until we start seeing the numbers roll in.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:05:24 PM | Message Detail
If anything, Crono is equal to Mega Man AT BEST. Link will have a hard time beating that percentage at all, much less besting it by 3%.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:06:36 PM | Message Detail
Don't laugh at me about that prediction until we start seeing the numbers roll in.

It's a total asinine prediction in the first place. Mega Man has increased, that much is apparent, but it didn't look like it was enough to oust Link. I have no idea why in the world you would believe Crono is stronger than Mega Man. None.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:08:50 PM | Message Detail
Mega Man, Mario, and Crono were pretty even last year. This year, Crono has clearly separated himself from Mario. Aside from MMAC, I see little reason to believe that Mega Man has increased at all, let alone increased to the point of catching up to Crono.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:11:38 PM | Message Detail
Mega Man, Mario, and Crono were pretty even last year. This year, Crono has clearly separated himself from Mario. Aside from MMAC, I see little reason to believe that Mega Man has increased at all, let alone increased to the point of catching up to Crono.

Yet the fact that Mega Man did 4% against Solid Snake would clearly indicate he has increased from last year. Both Mario and Solid Snake could've decreased, but I'm iffy on both of them doing something like that.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:14:08 PM | Message Detail
Yet the fact that Mega Man did 4% against Solid Snake would clearly indicate he has increased from last year. Both Mario and Solid Snake could've decreased, but I'm iffy on both of them doing something like that.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Knuckles the only major high for the Sonic Team this year? I know Tails won, but we all said 42% on Dante was expected, Sonic got an expected 55% on Ryu, and Shadow lost to Tidus. If Knux is the only one to go up, I think we have to consider that Snake has gone down, because why would Knux go up while the other 3 don't?
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:15:55 PM | Message Detail
Because Knuckles is awesome like that.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:16:22 PM | Message Detail
Amen
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:16:54 PM | Message Detail
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Knuckles the only major high for the Sonic Team this year?

...what? No. All of them looked great this year, Shadow being the lesser of the four.

<I know Tails won, but we all said 42% on Dante was expected,

Sonic got an expected 55% on Ryu,

He also turned around and got 60%+ on Dante, who overshot his projection by 3% against Ratchet. That's the two contradictions for Sonic. And his round 1 looked good too.

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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:18:17 PM | Message Detail
HM this is an outrage, you should not be supporting Sonic! The world only needs one more ingredient to implode now, a Gordon Freeman win!

Meh...
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:20:31 PM | Message Detail
Worst thing is, he already called a 56-44 win for LINK tomorrow. Does this equate a GF win?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:22:15 PM | Message Detail
No.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:24:24 PM | Message Detail
Sorry, but as much as I like Crono I don't think he'd be that far ahead of Mega Man, if at all.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:30:17 PM | Message Detail
Support? I can't really help it one way or the other if he increased or not. I'm just stating what has happened.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:50:48 PM | Message Detail
This topic was on Page 2! Injustice that be!

Anyway, we should start beginning our preparations for the long and boring off-season dontcha think?
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros
From: Slowflake | Posted: 9/30/2004 7:56:45 PM | Message Detail
There'll be plenty to discuss in the next five months, trust me. Maybe more if there isn't another spring contest. Not enough to fill a topic a day like we're doing now, but hey.

Oh, and there's going to be Ulti's PCA, too.

...there WILL be one, right?
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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:08:02 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and there's going to be Ulti's PCA, too.

He said he was making one last time I asked him...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:23:43 PM | Message Detail
Updates:

09:30 | Sonic | 12199 | +0429 | 41.86% | Samus | 16941 | +0568 | 58.14% | Lead of 4742 | (Up 139)
09:45 | Sonic | 12575 | +0376 | 41.76% | Samus | 17537 | +0596 | 58.24% | Lead of 4962 | (Up 220)
10:00 | Sonic | 12950 | +0375 | 41.68% | Samus | 18117 | +0580 | 58.32% | Lead of 5167 | (Up 205)
10:15 | Sonic | 13368 | +0418 | 41.68% | Samus | 18706 | +0589 | 58.32% | Lead of 5338 | (Up 171)
10:30 | Sonic | 13742 | +0374 | 41.66% | Samus | 19247 | +0541 | 58.34% | Lead of 5505 | (Up 167)
10:45 | Sonic | 14084 | +0342 | 41.60% | Samus | 19774 | +0527 | 58.40% | Lead of 5690 | (Up 185)
11:00 | Sonic | 14436 | +0352 | 41.64% | Samus | 20235 | +0461 | 58.36% | Lead of 5799 | (Up 109)
11:15 | Sonic | 14812 | +0376 | 41.56% | Samus | 20827 | +0592 | 58.44% | Lead of 6015 | (Up 216)
11:30 | Sonic | 15245 | +0433 | 41.55% | Samus | 21444 | +0617 | 58.45% | Lead of 6199 | (Up 184)
11:45 | Sonic | 15710 | +0465 | 41.58% | Samus | 22071 | +0627 | 58.42% | Lead of 6361 | (Up 162)
12:00 | Sonic | 16274 | +0564 | 41.64% | Samus | 22804 | +0733 | 58.36% | Lead of 6530 | (Up 169)
12:15 | Sonic | 16883 | +0609 | 41.82% | Samus | 23483 | +0679 | 58.18% | Lead of 6600 | (Up 70)
12:30 | Sonic | 17421 | +0538 | 41.79% | Samus | 24269 | +0786 | 58.21% | Lead of 6848 | (Up 248)
12:45 | Sonic | 18027 | +0606 | 41.86% | Samus | 25038 | +0769 | 58.14% | Lead of 7011 | (Up 163)
13:00 | Sonic | 18685 | +0658 | 41.91% | Samus | 25899 | +0861 | 58.09% | Lead of 7214 | (Up 203)
13:15 | Sonic | 19327 | +0642 | 41.98% | Samus | 26710 | +0811 | 58.02% | Lead of 7383 | (Up 169)
13:30 | Sonic | 19932 | +0605 | 42.00% | Samus | 27522 | +0812 | 58.00% | Lead of 7590 | (Up 207)
13:45 | Sonic | 20604 | +0672 | 42.09% | Samus | 28353 | +0831 | 57.91% | Lead of 7749 | (Up 159)
14:00 | Sonic | 21233 | +0629 | 42.13% | Samus | 29167 | +0814 | 57.87% | Lead of 7934 | (Up 185)
14:15 | Sonic | 21866 | +0633 | 42.21% | Samus | 29934 | +0767 | 57.79% | Lead of 8068 | (Up 134)
14:30 | Sonic | 22507 | +0641 | 42.27% | Samus | 30740 | +0806 | 57.73% | Lead of 8233 | (Up 165)
14:45 | Sonic | 23137 | +0630 | 42.29% | Samus | 31574 | +0834 | 57.71% | Lead of 8437 | (Up 204)
15:00 | Sonic | 23721 | +0584 | 42.33% | Samus | 32318 | +0744 | 57.67% | Lead of 8597 | (Up 160)
15:15 | Sonic | 24304 | +0583 | 42.34% | Samus | 33100 | +0782 | 57.66% | Lead of 8796 | (Up 199)
15:30 | Sonic | 24839 | +0535 | 42.35% | Samus | 33811 | +0711 | 57.65% | Lead of 8972 | (Up 176)
15:45 | Sonic | 25432 | +0593 | 42.41% | Samus | 34530 | +0719 | 57.59% | Lead of 9098 | (Up 126)
16:00 | Sonic | 26005 | +0573 | 42.42% | Samus | 35292 | +0762 | 57.58% | Lead of 9287 | (Up 189)
16:15 | Sonic | 26566 | +0561 | 42.44% | Samus | 36031 | +0739 | 57.56% | Lead of 9465 | (Up 178)
16:30 | Sonic | 27144 | +0578 | 42.51% | Samus | 36711 | +0680 | 57.49% | Lead of 9567 | (Up 102)
16:45 | Sonic | 27680 | +0536 | 42.50% | Samus | 37446 | +0735 | 57.50% | Lead of 9766 | (Up 199)
17:00 | Sonic | 28214 | +0534 | 42.53% | Samus | 38118 | +0672 | 57.47% | Lead of 9904 | (Up 138)
17:15 | Sonic | 28733 | +0519 | 42.57% | Samus | 38761 | +0643 | 57.43% | Lead of 10028 | (Up 124)

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:38:30 PM | Message Detail
Sonic is still moving up in percentage. Not bad.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:39:25 PM | Message Detail
We'll have brackets to compare and predict, too. Mine is deliciously evil, and I think it's nearing the final stages.

...If only Ceej would let the regulars make a bracket...We wouldn't have any of these 190 point brackets or retiring BS...
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 8:52:58 PM | Message Detail
From RPGamer.com

"Square Enix expects Dragon Quest VIII to have sufficiently sold more than enough copies by the time they plan to release Final Fantasy XII. Currently this title is planned for a Fall 2005 release in North America."

No need to worry about Vaan or Ashe in mock brackets.
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:06:20 PM | Message Detail
Sonic is still moving up in percentage. Not bad.

Sucks. I need Samus with 57.01% or better to win the spread for this match...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:09:03 PM | Message Detail
All the more reason to hope Sonic breaks 43%. At least I can get a moral victory out of this.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:18:28 PM | Message Detail
There will definitely be a PCA. I also plan on writing a PCA for the Summer 2002 contest during the offseason to keep things going.
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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:19:36 PM | Message Detail
Speaking of which Ulti, get creativename to archive your SC2K3 PCA.
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:20:24 PM | Message Detail
There will definitely be a PCA. I also plan on writing a PCA for the Summer 2002 contest during the offseason to keep things going.

You are ****ing awesome. O_O

I wasn't here for the Summer Contest in 2002 and I would kill for a good write-up on that contest.

Thank you so much. <3
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:23:38 PM | Message Detail
Speaking of which Ulti, get creativename to archive your SC2K3 PCA.

He made one for SC2K3?!

O_O

Gimme!

... Please. ;_;
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Haste2 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:32:40 PM | Message Detail
Well, I'm completely out of this now. Sephiroth is gone, but considering I wouldn't have ever made the Top 50 (I'm at -4) if I picked Link or Cloud, I don't feel bad at all...

An entire 189+ Top 50...darn. This contest SUCKS. (no offense, Ceej) I hope Cloud beats Link so that there will only be one person with 191 points. :P

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Haste2 | Posted: 9/30/2004 9:38:23 PM | Message Detail
Oh, wait...it looks like there will be some 188-pointers in the Top 50. Well, I made a stupid last minute change, so I wouldn't have made it even if I had the correct champ, anyway...

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Out Of Mayo | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:50:26 PM | Message Detail
Ugh, crappy debates and stuff, we need to dance around the burning hedgehog.
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Tee-Hee! Where are all the boys?
From: Mumei | Posted: 9/30/2004 10:53:24 PM | Message Detail
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16621220

The updates and stuff if people are interested. Sonic is still shut out.

>=)
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:00:59 PM | Message Detail
Samus looks to be on the rise as of now. She needs to get as close to 58% as possible.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: goku z | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:01:54 PM | Message Detail
10:45 | Sonic | 14436 | +0694 | 42.20% | Samus | 19774 | +0527 | 57.80% | Lead of 5338 | (Down 167)

Discuss.
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SC2K4 Score: 110/120 Next Tough Pick: Link over Sep...Cloud.
CATS is more well-developed than Cloud. ~ A very wise man, UltarEmpire.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:07:30 PM | Message Detail
10:45 | Sonic | 14436 | +0694 | 42.20% | Samus | 19774 | +0527 | 57.80% | Lead of 5338 | (Down 167)

Where did you get that from???
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:15:13 PM | Message Detail
We're only four hours away from Mega Man finally putting up his performance against Link. He shall not disappoint in the slightest.

Go Mega Man!
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:18:22 PM | Message Detail
In the slightest? So he's still going to win?

Hmmm...It's been a really slow day. We've only filled up half a topic today.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 75
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:19:20 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, well, Ceej's bracket sucks. We get nothing until Link/Cloud.
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:20:23 PM | Message Detail
Even on a boring days, we've usually been filling up a topic per day.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:20:45 PM | Message Detail
Nothing? You seem to forget the Blue Bomber is ready to own it up tomorrow. ;)
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:21:05 PM | Message Detail
that's because on boring days someone usually breaks out in an argument
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:22:19 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I guess Bush vs. Kerry stole away our arguments.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:22:24 PM | Message Detail
tomorrow we shall have someone who's not part of the Big 3 that will break 40% on them.
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:22:41 PM | Message Detail
On boring days recently, I've been posting my bracket and I can usually get a decent amount of feedback that leads into an argument about Vincent or something. But I've been holding off until the off season recently, and nobody else has really sparked a debate.
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:24:10 PM | Message Detail
Well, let's stir something up...Ah, here's something...

Neither Samus or Mega Man will break 40% in the Final Four.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:25:06 PM | Message Detail
Neither Samus or Mega Man will break 40% in the Final Four.

Mega's not looking good (sorry, HM), but I think Samus can do it.
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:25:07 PM | Message Detail
I agree with megaman, not Samus.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:25:51 PM | Message Detail
Well, if Samus is doing this against a static Sonic, the stats indicate that it'll be very close to 60/40.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:28:41 PM | Message Detail
Neither Samus or Mega Man will break 40% in the Final Four.

Both of them will be breaking 40%.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:30:24 PM | Message Detail
Maybe in the early hours, though I doubt it in Mega Man's case. Link was a beast against Crono for nearly the entire day.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:31:07 PM | Message Detail
Thankfully, Mega Man is not Crono.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:31:52 PM | Message Detail
Unfortunately, he's worse with the night vote.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:32:16 PM | Message Detail
Neither Samus or Mega Man will break 40% in the Final Four.

I'm expecting Mega Man to get about 42%, and Samus to get about 45%.
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~courtesy of mr wednesday
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:32:36 PM | Message Detail
He's not awful with the night vote, although he's much better than Crono with the day vote.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:33:18 PM | Message Detail
I'm ready to see the picture too...
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:34:21 PM | Message Detail
I would kill to see a Samus/Mega Man pic with both of them blasting each other.
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:35:08 PM | Message Detail
I didn't say Mega Man was awful. I just said he did worse than Crono with the night vote.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:39:01 PM | Message Detail
Capcom has just released their worldwide sales of it's most popular franchises. Here's what they've got:

Resident Evil series: 24.7 million units (36 titles)
Street Fighter series: 23.4 million units (50 titles)
Megaman series: 21.4 million units (87 titles)
Onimusha series: 6.0 million units (9 titles)
Devil May Cry series: 4.5 million units (3 titles)
Dino Crisis series: 4.3 million units (10 titles)
Ghosts 'n Goblins series: 4.1 million units (13 titles)
Final Fight series: 3.1 million units (8 titles)
Breath Of Fire series: 2.9 million units (13 titles)
Disney series: 1.3 million units (33 titles)
1942 series: 1.2 million units (3 titles)
Commando series: 1.1 million units (2 titles)
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:39:37 PM | Message Detail
I think Mega Man will put up a better fight throughout this entire match in comparison to Crono.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:40:43 PM | Message Detail
Megaman series: 21.4 million units (87 titles)

...

Holy ****!

EXPLODES
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"Fargus' pirate crew makes women smile and villains revile!" ~ Cap'n Fargus, Fire Emblem
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:42:07 PM | Message Detail
And Resident Evil has still outsold the entire Mega Man series despite half the titles. I'm surprised it's the #1 franchise.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:43:44 PM | Message Detail
Wow, DMC sold more per game than any other series. No wonder Dante does so well.
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BtT: 3:48.52 | HRC: 51,246.1 ft OV aaaargh
I keep getting sig'd for the weirdest things lately - StW
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:44:42 PM | Message Detail
Has this contest gotten so boring that people aren't even ATTEMPTING to make bold predictions anymore? It looks like everyone has conformed.... I guess having such an easy bracket will do that to you.... I've gotten 3 matches wrong and I might not even be top 50. That's terrible. Anyways, how many stat regs have Link winning it all and how many have Cloud? I'm trying to figure out where the stat regs would rank against one another once the contest is over.

Oh, and I'm pulling for Link to get 65% on Mega Man and Samus to get 45% on Cloud. I wonder if the Square fanbase even cares enough to give Cloud the support he needs. It seems like the contest is becoming anticlimatic....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:45:14 PM | Message Detail
That is because Resident Evil is VERY good. Mega Man's good too, but in quality per title... RE is definitely better.
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:45:54 PM | Message Detail
65% on Link? He won't come remotely close to getting 65%.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:46:18 PM | Message Detail
I wonder if the Square fanbase even cares enough to give Cloud the support he needs.

Why would they stop caring all of a sudden?
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:47:09 PM | Message Detail
I have Link, but picking Mario as an upset destroyed my chances of a return to the top 50.
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I keep getting sig'd for the weirdest things lately - StW
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:48:01 PM | Message Detail
The hell?! 36 Resident Evil Games? 50 Street Fighters? 87 Mega Mans? 10 DINO CRISIS GAMES???? Are they counting US and Japan versions as separate or something???

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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:48:27 PM | Message Detail
They count any ports as a separate title.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:49:45 PM | Message Detail
Oh, I said I'm PULLING for Link to get 65%, not that he'd get it.... Calm down man... lol

Even including ports, I'm still trying to figure out how they get those numbers....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:53:30 PM | Message Detail
Resident Evil 1 (PSX)
Resident Evil 1: Platinum (PSX)
Resident Evil 1 (Saturn)
Resident Evil 1 (PC)
Resident Evil 1: Director's Cut (PSX)
Resident Evil 1: Director's Cut Platinum (PSX)
Resident Evil 1: Remake (NGC)
Resident Evil 2 (PSX)
Resident Evil 2 Platinum (PSX)
Resident Evil 2 (N64)
Resident Evil 2 (Game.com)
Resident Evil 2 (NGC)
Resident Evil 2 (DC)
Resident Evil 2 (PC)
Resident Evil 2 Dual Shock Edition (PSX)
Resident Evil 2 Dual Shock Championship Edition (PC)
Resident Evil 3 (PSX)
Resident Evil 3 Platinum (PSX)
Resident Evil 3 (PC)
Resident Evil 3 (NGC)
Resident Evil 3 (DC)
Resident Evil 4 (NGC)
Resident Evil 0 (NGC)
Resident Evil: Survivor (PSX)
Resident Evil: Survivor Platinum (PSX)
Resident Evil: Survivor (PC)
Resident Evil: Survivor 2 (PS2)
Resident Evil: Gun Survivor 2 (ARC)
Resident Evil: Gun Survivor (PS2)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica (DC)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X (PS2)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X Platinum (PS2)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X (NGC)
Resident Evil Outbreak (PS2)
Resident Evil Outbreak File #2 (PS2)
Resident Evil: Dead Aim (PS2)
Resident Evil: Gaiden (GBC)
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A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:53:48 PM | Message Detail
I hope Mega Man wins tomorrow, but he'll be VERY lucky to get 44%. I suspect 42%, maybe 41%.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:54:55 PM | Message Detail
I don't think he'll need to get lucky to break 44% tomorrow, myself. This should be his best performance in a contest yet.
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/The Hunter - Log 10.023.7/
A considerable bounty will go to the unit who delivers Aran to Command. Dead or alive, it matters not.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:57:22 PM | Message Detail
I agree, it'll be his best performance yet...doesn't mean he's gonna end with 44% though, even if I wish for it to be true.

Side-note: I noticed that, unless Link beats Cloud by more than about a percent, Donkey Kong should rank ahead of Magus this year in the stats. The numbers stay crazy, I tell ya.....
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday
From: Haste2 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:58:12 PM | Message Detail
As it turns out, Auron vs. Sephiroth predicted Cloud vs. Sephiroth almost perfectly. So, Auron vs. Sephiroth apparently DID have the same amount of SFF as Auron vs. Cloud...

For interests' sake, I decided to adjust the some of the extrapolated standings in the divisions as best I could. Of course, you may disgree with how I came up with them...for one thing, I assumed that Mario 2004 = Mario 2003, thus pushing Link quite a ways up. (2K4 Link beats 2K5 Link with about 55%)

Hyrule:
Ganondorf - 31.61%
Alucard - 27.09%
Yoshi - 24.63%
Ryo Hazuki - 11.63%
Luigi - 22.42%
Pac-Man - 14.47%
Magus - 34.05% (I assumed Magus would be the same proportion as Crono)
Luca Blight - 12.91%
Bowser - 28.2%
Guybrush - 9.59%

Midgar:
Squall - 29% (I purely guesstimated on this)
Bomberman - 20.45%
Kirby - 26.09%
Kain - 18.45%
Auron - 30.49% (another estimation, but I assure you this is almost exact)
Scorpion - 21.44%
Ness - 21.32%
Jak - 19.16%
Vivi - 28.09%
DK - 24.45%

That should give you an idea of how the characters REALLY stack up.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/30/2004 11:59:07 PM | Message Detail
I think we can agree that if Link breaks 60% he has this contest won right?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:01:17 AM | Message Detail
Unless Cloud breaks 59% on Samus, yes, I'll agree with that.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:01:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, 58%.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:01:38 AM | Message Detail
No, not really. It would be what's expected of him.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:01:49 AM | Message Detail
I'll agree with that.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:03:51 AM | Message Detail
Unless Cloud breaks 59% on Samus, yes, I'll agree with that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did (but 60% is a new level)
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:06:09 AM | Message Detail
Just to say it again, Fox McCloud must be back in the next contest. He also needs to face a non-Nintendo character.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:06:28 AM | Message Detail
60? No, I disagree with that.

Sephiroth broke 61 on him last year, and that was sephiroth, not Link. Plus, Megaman may have increased, but tomorrow will really tell that. Mega/EJ wasn't anything special, granted nothing out of it really could have been. Mega/Tidus was insane, but then Zero/Mega went almost exactly according to plan didn't it, or worse or something? And then Mega beat Snake by more than last year, yeah, but Snake also did worse on Knuckles and didn't show too much dominace with Frog. Actually, for those that know how, how was megamn/snake supposed to go if you use the zero/megaman megaman and the snake/knuckles snake?

So while that does greatly undermine megaman, I don't see any real reason to be schocked by 60 when seph got 61.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:08:19 AM | Message Detail
Would you rather see Luigi/V. Joe or Fox/Joe?
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:08:22 AM | Message Detail
Fox got tripled by a pre-KH Cloud. Sure, I'd like to see him come back, but he's a midcarder at best. Unless Star Fox Armada is the second coming of Star Fox 64, he won't be able to do more than maybe win a match.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:09:47 AM | Message Detail
fox/joe

luigi is no weakling, he could take joe.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:10:03 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth broke 61 on him last year,

Yes, that immediate problem with that being "last year". Mega Man has shown plenty of sign of increasing since 2003.

And then Mega beat Snake by more than last year, yeah, but Snake also did worse on Knuckles and didn't show too much dominace with Frog.

Snake should've never shown much dominance on Frog in the first place. I will say that Snake has no reason at all to drop, certainly not the extra 4% Mega Man beat him by in comparison to last year.

So while that does greatly undermine megaman, I don't see any real reason to be schocked by 60 when seph got 61.

I would be greatly shocked to see an increased Mega Man not score 40% on Link. He shouldn't have a problem getting over that however.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:11:30 AM | Message Detail
Unless Mega Man is facing an increased Link, in the which case he's out of luck.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:12:22 AM | Message Detail
Fox got tripled by a pre-KH Cloud. Sure, I'd like to see him come back, but he's a midcarder at best. Unless Star Fox Armada is the second coming of Star Fox 64, he won't be able to do more than maybe win a match.

He also was hit by SFF in the coming year against Link, a ranked around 17.54% last year. You combine the SFF that'll send him up some, say around KOS-MOS' level, then add Star Fox 2 into the equation and there's plenty of reason for Fox to return and either go out in a solid match against someone or win a match. He's certainly more warranted than some of the other people that will return.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:12:56 AM | Message Detail
Fox/V. Joe. He needs a break from facing Nintendo characters.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:13:38 AM | Message Detail
Just to say it again, Fox McCloud must be back in the next contest. He also needs to face a non-Nintendo character.

Like Tails, like my mock bracket says, which can be found in the ling below! *shameless plug* Goin' to bed now, g-nite ya'll.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16622767
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:15:05 AM | Message Detail
He also was hit by SFF in the coming year against Link, a ranked around 17.54% last year.

And you know this...how? Fox did about as well as he would've been expected to against Link.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:15:35 AM | Message Detail
I'm not going to be surprised by a 60% for Link. It was last year, but last year did pretty good on predicting Megaman/Zero and that's with potential sff.

And snake faced knuckles three times now, and there really wasn't any reason for either to drop, but I don't think Snake is at the same strength, and I do think that Snake/knux is a good indicator of that.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:16:01 AM | Message Detail
And you know this...how? Fox did about as well as he would've been expected to against Link.

Are you kidding me? After seeing Link totally destroy two strong Nintendo characters with SFF you think there was little to none involved? Right. There's no way you'd get me to believe something that crazy.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:18:29 AM | Message Detail
Oh, you mean like how Link got high amounts of SFF against Mario and Samus, right?
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:20:56 AM | Message Detail
Gah, I'm bored. So I'm posting the bracket. Feedback appreciated.

Chaos in Hyrule
(1) Link
(16) Vyse
(8) Zidane Tribal
(9) Raiden

(4) Shadow the Hedgehog
(13) Geno
(5) Auron
(12) Protoman

(3) Magus Zeal
(14) Strider Hiryu
(6) Vivi Ornitier
(11) Luigi

(7) Bowser
(10) Sora
(2) Sonic the Hedgehog
(15) Princess Peach

Mushrooms in Midgar
(1) Cloud Strife
(16) Eliwood
(8) Yoshi
(9) Knuckles the Echidna

(4) Dante Sparda
(13) Vincent Valentine
(5) Alucard
(12) Liquid Snake

(3) Aeris Gainsborough
(14) Bass
(6) Zelda
(11) Ken Masters

(7) Terra Branford
(10) Sarah Kerrigan
(2) Mario
(15) KOS-MOS

Meteors on Zebes
(1) Sephiroth
(16) Sam Fisher
(8) Donkey Kong

(9) Leon Kennedy
(4) Squall Leonhart
(13) Nightmare
(5) Ryu

(12) Ghaleon
(3) Master Chief
(14) Lloyd Irving
(6) Tidus

(11) Charles Johnson
(7) Kirby
(10) Miles "Tails" Prower
(2) Samus Aran
(15) HK-47

Time Travel to 20XX
(1) Mega Man
(16) Gordon Freeman
(8) Ness
(9) Serge

(4) Ganondorf Dragmire
(13) Kefka
(5) Frog
(12) Sigma

(3) Solid Snake
(14) Morrigan
(6) Zero
(11) Sub Zero

(7) Viewtiful Joe
(10) Fox McCloud
(2) Crono
(15) Kratos Aurion

Feedback appreciated.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:21:13 AM | Message Detail
I hope you could tell the difference between someone like Mario/Samus and then Yoshi/Fox.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:23:51 AM | Message Detail
Holding Pikachu constant between 2k2 and 2k3 gives Fox a value of 24.8% on Link, compared to the 17.54% he actually got.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:24:32 AM | Message Detail
Wow, our first 3 pack and 5 pack in contest history.
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:25:24 AM | Message Detail
I don't think Link could do anything tomorrow to say definitively he has this won. Not at least without seeing what Cloud answers with on Samus. Personally, I think 48 hours of snoozefest will be worth the epic Finals. And it better hit 100,000 votes, or else I will have lost all respect for the voting public. But then again, with that clown Dubya in office, I think I already should have.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:25:26 AM | Message Detail
Eh, I think it's easy enough to figure out where I screwed up pressing enter.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:26:32 AM | Message Detail
Regardless of whether there was SFF or not, Fox is little more than fodder, really.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:26:42 AM | Message Detail
Nice set of matches, RPGuy.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:30:04 AM | Message Detail
Fox is little more than fodder, really.

I think he'll be around the Kirby (2003) level next year. He does have Star Fox 2, which looks excellent, hitting shelves before the next contest. With only a few titles under his belt he certainly has the ability to grow.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 12:34:26 AM | Message Detail
Holding Pikachu constant between 2k2 and 2k3 gives Fox a value of 24.8% on Link, compared to the 17.54% he actually got.

True between 2k2 and 2k3 Pikachu dropped about 5% and that's not including the Mario vs. Cloud factor either (Auron and Tails finally proved it right)
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 10/1/2004 1:23:46 AM | Message Detail
Assuming Solid Snake and Sonic stayed the same from 2k3 to 2k4, and Samus beats Sonic with 57.55% and no there's no SFF in the matches and finally assuming I did the calculations right...

Mega Man would be expected to get 41.93% on Link2k3
Samus would be expected to get 41.13% on Link2k3.

Basicly if either Link or Cloud does 1-2% better than the other, they will probably win in the finals.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 1:57:06 AM | Message Detail
Must. Stop. Looking. At. Sega. Saturn. Game. Auctions.

Damn you ebay, damn you to hell!!!
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From: sidharta | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:11:17 AM | Message Detail
I highly doubt that Snake stays the same.

He underperforms significantly in all of his matches except vs. Tanner.

He might not decreased by much, but he certainly must have decreased.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:13:49 AM | Message Detail
"but he certainly must have decreased."

Says what, coincidence? We don't know how strong Frog is, because we don't know if MC has gone up or not. We don't know if Knux went up. We don't know how much Mega went up. We'll find out tomorrow where he stands, but I highly doubt he took a major nose dive.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:14:09 AM | Message Detail
I highly doubt that Snake stays the same.

He underperforms significantly in all of his matches except vs. Tanner.

He might not decreased by much, but he certainly must have decreased.


True, but this would cause Mega Man's score to fall it bit. The first percent or so will actually bring him closer to Samus. So there is some room for error.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:14:53 AM | Message Detail
Damn you ebay, damn you to hell!!!

You wouldn't believe some of the Saturn bundles people were selling - person was selling about 10 to 12 games (and good games like the Virtua Fighter games, and Saturn Bomberman, for example), the Saturn itself, the multitap and about 6 different controllers and the high bid was $75 with only 2 hours to go.

Damnit, if only I had a credit card. ;_;
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:19:35 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, that's a high price though, in a way. Though... Saturn Bomberman... damn that's a mighty fine grab. 10 players, man, 10 friggin' players simultaneously blasting the hell out of eachother. Sure, you need 9 friends, 10 controllers, and a pair of those multi-taps, but it's 10 player Bomberman!!!

I intend to grab a cheap one without any games I care much about and just buy the ones I want. Top of the list, Shining Force 3 Scenario 1 English followed by NiGHTS (damn fine game). And, should i ever spawn 9 friends, I'll grab that Saturn Bomberman.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8134908439&rd=1

Oh my god... just, oh my god.
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From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:22:27 AM | Message Detail
Saturn Bomberman has Bonk as a playable character.

Too bad that was his last apperence before being swallowed into the obscure character that are never seen again, Super Bonk kicked ass.
From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:23:18 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, that's a high price though, in a way.

Not that high for 10 - 12 games*, 7 or 8 controllers, the multitap..

* From what I recall, it had Panzer Dragoon, Panzer Dragoon II Zwei, Virtua Fighter, Virtua Fighter 2, Saturn Bomberman, NiGHTS Into Dreams..., and a few more obscure ones that I can't say that I'd heard of beforehand.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:23:39 AM | Message Detail
We'll find out tomorrow where he stands, but I highly doubt he took a major nose dive.

I didn't say that a major nose dive is likely, but I still think that a significant decrease would make sense.

After all, he did underperform 3 rounds in a row, there must be a reason for that...

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:24:01 AM | Message Detail
I remember Bonk on the old PC Engine (TG16). Damn fine game. Perhaps even inspirational to a young lad such as myself. But I must stay focused. Saturn now, Turbo Duo later, Neo Geo AES after that.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:24:33 AM | Message Detail
CM, how old are you? Early twenties?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:26:35 AM | Message Detail
Okay. that's a kick ass line of games there. It'd have had me sold, no doubt, just for the last three. Of course, there's still a crapload of games I want more than any of those.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:27:53 AM | Message Detail
"CM, how old are you? Early twenties?"

There abouts, unless I feel like I should be otherwise. One of my coworkers said I was born in the ice age, once. Some times I act older than my age, sometimes younger.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:28:48 AM | Message Detail
There abouts, unless I feel like I should be otherwise. One of my coworkers said I was born in the ice age, once. Some times I act older than my age, sometimes younger.

Heh.

The pic still isn't up yet. =(

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:30:39 AM | Message Detail
No pic still? Ceej must've slept in or something, heh. gettin' pretty close, does he want it to be some sort of surprise? If he does, all I gotta say is the only surprise I want is for the poll to be put in place of that big, stupid ad that's normally above it. And yes, I mean at that same size, as well.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:31:39 AM | Message Detail
If he does, all I gotta say is the only surprise I want is for the poll to be put in place of that big, stupid ad that's normally above it. And yes, I mean at that same size, as well.

That would kick ass. Too bad he won't do it. =(
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From: sidharta | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:33:30 AM | Message Detail
No pic still? Ceej must've slept in or something, heh. gettin' pretty close, does he want it to be some sort of surprise? If he does, all I gotta say is the only surprise I want is for the poll to be put in place of that big, stupid ad that's normally above it. And yes, I mean at that same size, as well.

That would totally rock, unfortunately you might be asking for too much there.

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September 29th, 2004: Once again, destiny(Cloud) has destroyed fate(Sephiroth).
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:36:26 AM | Message Detail
Yes, well, I may be asking for too much, but I'm still only asking for what's fair and right. He could treat us well for a mere 3 days, if he wanted to.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:44:47 AM | Message Detail
Oh yeah:

Favorite quote of the day:

Smurf X is my hero. – Zydicore

O_o

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From: Agent M | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:46:29 AM | Message Detail
Pic still isn't up... Guess it won't be up until the match starts. It would rock if Ceej had some sort of surprise in store.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:47:24 AM | Message Detail
Wow, what a quote...

Yeah, anyway, I'm hoping for the surprise I mentioned, though I'm not holding my breath or anything.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:48:31 AM | Message Detail
Wow, what a quote...

I thought you'd like that. XD
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:49:15 AM | Message Detail
I'd be surprised if it happened but he might be using an X pic, instead of an original megaman pic.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 2:52:13 AM | Message Detail
So, back to Saturn talk. Who thinks there's any remote chance in hell that I'll find Langrisser 3 in english? I mena, really, if you think it costs a kidney to buy PDS, imagine trying to get that. Of course, I've never heard of Langrisser being released in the US until I looked for the game ingo here on GameFAQs, so it may not even exist... but I'd be willing to give up any of your vital organs in exchange for it.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:01:15 AM | Message Detail
Damn you ceej, damn you to hell. That pic isn't right, man. It's like Mega Man is lying down and giving up. Oh, and can anyone else not see the results?
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Starion | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:02:09 AM | Message Detail
Interesting. He's doing the same thing he did during the Spring Finals. I wonder how many pics he's using for this match?
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:03:10 AM | Message Detail
hehe, cm, you hadn't refreshed before writing that had you? lol
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:03:22 AM | Message Detail
Wow, just saw the second pic. Interesting...
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:03:32 AM | Message Detail
XD XD XD XD

I was not expecting that type of pic. At least Mega Man is on steroids now so he might have a shot.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:03:39 AM | Message Detail
52.46% had Samus in the Final Four. You go girl!

And it's two rounds late, but we FINALLY have a non-Classic Mega pic! (And yes, I know of the other one.)
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:04:16 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b61.php

Hey creativename, there are two pics. Refresh the link a few times.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:04:21 AM | Message Detail
I stayed up to see the damn results early on...

****.
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From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:05:43 AM | Message Detail
And it's two rounds late, but we FINALLY have a non-Classic Mega pic!

Err, the Mega Man is from Marvel vs Capcom is the classic one.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:05:45 AM | Message Detail
I wanna see reults too, damnit.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:06:56 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I don't care for that look for MM, either. I'd rather see an X pic, and I'm all about the classic.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:07:44 AM | Message Detail
Doma, what's the link for that? I've never paid attention because I never thought I'd have to.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:10:16 AM | Message Detail
What, you mean for the stats?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/sum04_stats.html

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:10:51 AM | Message Detail
Ahh, poll fixed.
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:12:13 AM | Message Detail
At this rate, Mega Man might actually be weaker than Crono...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:12:49 AM | Message Detail
What was all that about how Crono wasn't stronger than Mega Man, again? What was that about how me thinking that Link could hit 65% was ridiculous?

Stop talking and take the pwning, plz.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:13:13 AM | Message Detail
Link was getting 54 - 60% per update during the night against Crono and got 63 to 68% during the day.

He's already getting at least 60% on him... O_o
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:13:30 AM | Message Detail
I'm not surprised. In fact, I expected this. Mega Man has no fanbase to compete with the likes of Link or Cloud. Truth be told, I probably wouldn't even pick him against Crono or Mario.
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From: darcy | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:13:34 AM | Message Detail
Get ready for the bet HM.
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:13:35 AM | Message Detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
120---0--------N/A
119---7--------85.7142857
118---18-------100.0000000
117---52-------84.6153846
116---76-------93.4210526
115---100------94.0000000
114---103------87.3786408
113---128------85.1562500
112---142------85.2112676
111---163------87.1165644
110---174------80.4597701
109---209------73.6842105
108---236------77.5423729
107---257------76.6536965
106---281------76.5124555
105---265------73.5849057
104---338------74.5562130
103---377------71.8832891
102---397------72.5440806
101---381------70.3412073
100---458------70.3056769
99----456------69.5175439
98----496------68.1451613
97----513------68.2261209
96----566------72.0848057
95----577------68.9774697
94----599------71.1185309
93----604------70.8609272
92----718------66.4345404
91----669------65.1718984
90----709------62.7644570
89----744------66.1290323
88----771------66.4072633
87----771------58.4954604
86----856------60.7476636
85----790------61.3924051
84----860------60.2325581
83----850------56.0000000
82----856------54.7897196
81----861------56.5621370
80----849------49.9411072
79----814------50.8599509
78----823------52.3693803
77----813------48.8314883
76----845------49.8224852
75----740------44.8648649
74----689------44.4121916
73----684------40.4970760
72----721------42.7184466
71----617------39.5461912
70----605------38.3471074
69----589------39.0492360
68----539------34.8794063
67----507------32.7416174
66----464------32.7586207
65----406------31.7733990
64----418------31.8181818
63----374------28.6096257
62----328------31.0975610
61----335------26.5671642
60----267------29.2134831
59----269------33.0855019
58----246------22.3577236
57----231------22.5108225
56----223------19.7309417
55----191------20.9424084
54----180------27.7777778
53----151------25.8278146
52----152------19.0789474
51----143------20.2797203
50----127------24.4094488
49----124------16.9354839
48----115------24.3478261
47----93-------16.1290323
46----97-------18.5567010
45----97-------19.5876289
44----70-------21.4285714
43----68-------17.6470588
42----79-------12.6582278
41----64-------20.3125000
40----54-------24.0740741
39----55-------9.0909091
38----47-------10.6382979
37----49-------6.1224490
36----34-------5.8823529
35----40-------10.0000000
34----33-------6.0606061
33----26-------11.5384615
32----22-------4.5454545
31----19-------5.2631579
30----19-------21.0526316
29----12-------8.3333333
28----15-------0.0000000
27----12-------0.0000000
26----5--------20.0000000
25----11-------0.0000000
24----9--------0.0000000
23----0--------N/A
22----8--------0.0000000
21----2--------0.0000000
20----1--------0.0000000
19----1--------0.0000000
18----1--------0.0000000
17----4--------0.0000000
16----2--------0.0000000
15----4--------0.0000000
14----4--------0.0000000
13----2--------0.0000000
12----7--------14.2857143

Nobody with a score of 11 or less got the match right. Mid 80's to low 90's for the tip tier prediction percentages.

Another 6 people fell off the Top 50 today. Cyclone Striker, owen2003uk, Stroke of Genius, Vgt101010, Lost Button and former -1 Cromage did not have Samus winning her match.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:13:39 AM | Message Detail
well, by no means is the % final for this match
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:14:34 AM | Message Detail
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:14:40 AM | Message Detail
Yes, it's not final...

Link might actually go higher! The day vote will probably favor him massively like it did Crono now.
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From: Diamond Soul X | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:14:56 AM | Message Detail
Another poll, another time I say that it's clearly time to retire clinkeroth, no one else is coming even close to them.
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:15:20 AM | Message Detail
I'd say it's more Clink now really.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:15:57 AM | Message Detail
I would pick Mega Man to beat Mario until Mario 128, but I wouldn't pick him to beat Crono. Square characters rise just a little on the whole every year.
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From: Lucid Faia 2 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:16:01 AM | Message Detail
So, out hierarchy this year could look something like this:

Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Samus
Crono
Mega Man
Mario
Sonic
Solid Snake

The placements of Sonic and Snake could be switched, as well as the placements of Sephiroth and Samus. We'll just have to wait and see what develops tomorrow and the day after.

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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:16:02 AM | Message Detail
that it could.
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From: Diamond Soul X | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:16:15 AM | Message Detail
Even if it's just Link and Cloud, but c'mon! This isn't even fair anymore. Why hold a contest when only 2 people can stand a remote chance?
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:16:22 AM | Message Detail
nm, I just found out there were two pics.
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From: Diamond Soul X | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:17:06 AM | Message Detail
You forget Zero got a higher percentage against Megaman than Snake. It's impossible for him to place above Zero.
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:17:29 AM | Message Detail
I'm just going to call those two Colonel Clink from now on. Because I want to. >_>

Poor HM though. I was hoping MM would do better than this myself.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:17:45 AM | Message Detail
Go Megaman. He's doing better than what Samus and Crono did, I hope he can keep it up.
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From: Lucid Faia 2 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:18:11 AM | Message Detail
Why hold a contest when only 2 people can stand a remote chance?

If Samus and Cloud meet in 2005, then Samus is winning. Mark my words. She's going to be even more of a threat next year.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:18:32 AM | Message Detail
It hasn't even stabalized out yet, guys. Really. Besides, MM is around 39% with it becomming stable, and that's not worse than Crono.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:18:35 AM | Message Detail
Looks like tied for 69th is as high as I go in this contest. Oh well, could have done worse.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 124/128
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Link with 61%
From: octoinky | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:21:02 AM | Message Detail
As seen in my topic...

I've compiled some interesting statistics based on the prediction percentages posted on the

Contest statistics site on GameFAQs. Therefor, these are only accurate to the extent of the

stats as posted and rounded on GameFAQs.

average scores by round and division

Round 1
Midgar: 5.7551
Chaos: 5.8065
20xx: 5.9119
Hyrule: 6.9282


Round 2
20xx: 3.8490
Chaos: 4.9448
Midgar: 5.9416
Hyrule: 6.2256


Round 3
20xx: 4.1264
Chaos: 5.0856
Hyrule: 5.2944
Midgar: 7.1104


Round 4
20xx: 2.5072
Chaos: 4.1968
Midgar: 4.8472
Hyrule: 6.1672

Round Total
possible points: 32
4: 18.7184
2: 20.9610
3: 21.6168
1: 24.4017

Division
possible points: 32
20xx: 16.3945
Chaos: 20.0337
Midgar: 23.6543
Hyrule: 24.6154

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Score: 91/96
Link, Megaman, Cloud, Samus / Link, Cloud / Cloud
From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:21:18 AM | Message Detail
On another note, MM is dropping in % now...
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From: Agent M | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:23:10 AM | Message Detail
Didn't Crono hold on to 40-41% for a while? Mega Man's dropping rather fast.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:24:04 AM | Message Detail
Day vote will hurt him even more. He might struggle to hold onto 35%, amazingly.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:24:34 AM | Message Detail
Didn't Crono hold on to 40-41% for a while? Mega Man's dropping rather fast.

Updates where Crono remained above 40%:

00:00 | Link | 00063 | +0063 | 58.33% | Crono | 00045 | +0045 | 41.67% | Lead of 0018 | (Up 18)
00:15 | Link | 00654 | +0591 | 58.50% | Crono | 00464 | +0419 | 41.50% | Lead of 0190 | (Up 172)
00:30 | Link | 01083 | +0429 | 58.16% | Crono | 00779 | +0315 | 41.84% | Lead of 0304 | (Up 114)
00:45 | Link | 01479 | +0396 | 58.71% | Crono | 01040 | +0261 | 41.29% | Lead of 0439 | (Up 135)
01:00 | Link | 01839 | +0360 | 59.19% | Crono | 01268 | +0228 | 40.81% | Lead of 0571 | (Up 132)
01:15 | Link | 02136 | +0297 | 58.83% | Crono | 01495 | +0227 | 41.17% | Lead of 0641 | (Up 70)
01:30 | Link | 02432 | +0296 | 58.49% | Crono | 01726 | +0231 | 41.51% | Lead of 0706 | (Up 65)
01:45 | Link | 02715 | +0283 | 58.29% | Crono | 01943 | +0217 | 41.71% | Lead of 0772 | (Up 66)
02:00 | Link | 02981 | +0266 | 58.62% | Crono | 02104 | +0161 | 41.38% | Lead of 0877 | (Up 105)
02:15 | Link | 03240 | +0259 | 58.70% | Crono | 02280 | +0176 | 41.30% | Lead of 0960 | (Up 83)
02:30 | Link | 03490 | +0250 | 58.74% | Crono | 02451 | +0171 | 41.26% | Lead of 1039 | (Up 79)
02:45 | Link | 03711 | +0221 | 58.49% | Crono | 02634 | +0183 | 41.51% | Lead of 1077 | (Up 38)
03:00 | Link | 03982 | +0271 | 58.71% | Crono | 02801 | +0167 | 41.29% | Lead of 1181 | (Up 104)
03:15 | Link | 04296 | +0314 | 59.06% | Crono | 02978 | +0177 | 40.94% | Lead of 1318 | (Up 137)
03:30 | Link | 04670 | +0374 | 59.47% | Crono | 03183 | +0205 | 40.53% | Lead of 1487 | (Up 169)
03:45 | Link | 05089 | +0419 | 59.79% | Crono | 03423 | +0240 | 40.21% | Lead of 1666 | (Up 179)

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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:25:23 AM | Message Detail
Link didn't even make it to 60% on Crono until 4 hours into the poll. It was stabilized in the early hours around 58.5%

Megaman is probably more of a day vote getter than Crono, but regardless, that won't help him against a day juggernaut like Link. So at this rate Megaman might finish lower than Crono.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:25:33 AM | Message Detail
... I can't imagine how much grief HM is going to get about this. O.o
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:27:59 AM | Message Detail
Megaman is probably more of a day vote getter than Crono

That's where I disagree (in this match, anyway). I doubt Mega Man will cut into the % lead at any point during the day.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:29:39 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, he won't cut into it. But Crono lost a good 3% from the day after everything settled.

Basically, I'm going to assume that Megaman is going to do better than Crono in the day. Because if not, that means he finishes below 33%.

And doubling Megaman is a scary, scary thing.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:31:58 AM | Message Detail
That it is.

Anyhoo, good night guys. I stayed up to see if my prediction would hold water, and it does.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:33:39 AM | Message Detail
Damn. I knew I should have raised my Prophet Challenge prediction. YARGH!
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From: Blackapino1984 | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:34:32 AM | Message Detail
Oh well. I thought Mega Man could win but, I was wrong.

Question. Do you think the 2 different pics will effect the voting somewhat?
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From: Mumei | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:35:12 AM | Message Detail
27,000 looks possible, depending upon vote totals... O_o;

I'm keeping updates for this match. ^_^
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:35:52 AM | Message Detail
Megaman averaged around 2% increase from his percentage 30 minutes into the the match and the end of the match. The exception being vs. Zero where Mega Man a lot of percentage points from the beginning to the end of the match.

Link averaged around 4% increase from his percentage 30 minutes into the match to the end of the match. Vs Ganondorf was a bit lower probably due to SFF like the anomoly in Megaman vote increase vs Zero. vs CATS was a lot higher for obvious reasons.

Link could very well end the match with 65% of the vote.
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From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:37:39 AM | Message Detail
Bah, I knew gamefaqs was tasteless, but now their tounges only make slavia.
From: octoinky | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:44:41 AM | Message Detail
Great way to start that "after 30 minute" gain. Link has lost 0.8% since the 30 minute mark.

I'd like to see Crono > MegaMan, but I'm also looking for a third phase oracle win, and my pick today is 61. 62.83+ or incredibly close to 61 please.
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Score: 91/96
Link, Megaman, Cloud, Samus / Link, Cloud / Cloud
From: Garbling | Posted: 10/1/2004 3:46:47 AM | Message Detail
Mega Man deserves this beating. Hopefully Link can push his percentage to 70%.
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Bling bling yo!
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 10/1/2004 4:33:05 AM | Message Detail
64% and still climbing. Cloud better look impressive against Samus, a character previously thought weaker than Mega Man.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 10/1/2004 4:46:01 AM | Message Detail
01:45 | Link | 02999 | +0359 | 64.87% | Megaman | 01624 | +0143 | 35.13% | Lead of 1375 | (Up 216)


Link's % last update: 71.51%


XD
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 10/1/2004 5:24:06 AM | Message Detail
Outside chance of a 70-30 match at this rate...

*cries*
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From: Agent M | Posted: 10/1/2004 5:29:09 AM | Message Detail
*also cries*
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Current score 115/128 :( Next match: Link
From: Link2dapast | Posted: 10/1/2004 5:30:11 AM | Message Detail
OMG Link is a beast!!! I am ecstatic, you have no clue how happy I am from this. I had a terrible day and I wakeup to BAM!

:) Cloud must die!
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Score: 126/128 Rank: 8th
From: wg64Z | Posted: 10/1/2004 6:51:13 AM | Message Detail
Crono and Mario >>> Mega Man
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Score:122/128 Todays Pick: Link...Duhr
Zydicore - "wg is owning your freaking life, Heroic Mario."
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 10/1/2004 6:59:45 AM | Message Detail
OMG, Link is really doubling MM.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:15:41 AM | Message Detail
Okay.. I am all for it now.. Retire Clinkeroth!

**** you Link... Megaman, I am so disappointed..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: Seijun | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:16:21 AM | Message Detail
Why, Megaman, why? Why did you fall from being near to Sephiroth, to being around the level of Magus (which is not necessarily a bad thing, but still). ;_;

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From: Seijun | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:19:39 AM | Message Detail
*takes a quick peek at 2003 results*

http://gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1353

Heck, below Magus even.

Excuse me, I need to cry now.

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From: Dark115 | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:22:41 AM | Message Detail
Oh man, this is bad, really bad, Mega Man is being walked on out there. Does this mean that Cloud doesn't stand a chance?
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From: cyko | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:23:40 AM | Message Detail
wow. after all that talk about Megaman challenging Link, he's having trouble reaching Mario's numbers. ouch. Link must have improved since last year. can you imagine Link's power is Zelda 10 lives up to it's hype?

btw- if Link doubles Megaman, then Tidus's X-Stat value drops to 23.48% - a 10 point drop that would put him with the same value Sam Fisher had last year.

here's the Chaos X-Stats:

50.00% Samus
42.49% Sonic
37.78% Ryu
34.15% Sora
32.27% Dante
28.61% KOS-MOS
27.49% Tails
26.15% Ryu Hayabusa
26.14% Jill Valentine
24.85% Viewtiful Joe
23.53% HK-47
19.03% Sam Fisher
17.61% Lara Croft
16.96% Gordon Freeman
16.28% Terry Bogard
12.73% Ratchet

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.
From: cyko | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:24:59 AM | Message Detail
btw - when's the last time one of our topics took more than 24 hours to hit 500? this is the first time in a while i can remember posting in the same topic two days in a row.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.
From: ultimatelifeform8021 | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:28:41 AM | Message Detail
Chaos

Samus Aran 50.00%
Sonic the Hedgehog 42.49%
Ryu 37.78%
Sora 34.15%
Dante 32.27%
KOS-MOS 28.62%
Miles "Tails" Prower 27.49%
Ryu Hayabusa 26.15%
Jill Valentine 26.13%
Viewtiful Joe 24.85%
HK-47 23.53%
Sam Fisher 19.03%
Lara Croft 17.61%
Gordon Freeman 16.96%
Terry Bogard 16.28%
Ratchet 12.73%

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Today's Pick: Samus
From: Terran | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:31:26 AM | Message Detail
All the talk of MegaMan challenging Link wasn't really well earned to begin with. MegaMan might've been a force in 2002, but in 2003 he was no where near the same level as the top 3.

http://gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1366

If Sephiroth could beat MegaMan by 61%-39%, were was the logic that MegaMan suddenly gained enough strength to beat Link?

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From: Tai | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:32:37 AM | Message Detail
Megaman looks like he is at Link's mercy in the match pic. XD
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From: Terran | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:34:42 AM | Message Detail
Megaman looks like he is at Link's mercy in the match pic. XD

There's two alternating pictures, one of MegaMan beating Link and the other of Link beating MegaMan.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:35:10 AM | Message Detail
Jesus, this score isn't even fair. Ouch.
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From: cyko | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:38:08 AM | Message Detail

There's two alternating pictures, one of MegaMan beating Link and the other of Link beating MegaMan.

yeah, except the one of Link beating Megaman seems to be happening about, oh, twice as much.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 7:41:25 AM | Message Detail
I second that "Ouch" and add a "Whoa" and a "What the".

Seriously, Link must've improved. Big time. There's no using him as a yardstick to compare between years now. That practically makes Cloud the new reference by default... but what when we compare 2002 with 2004? Link 02/03 should be, like, a universal 50 or something.

Link breaking 70% on Snake... could it truly be possible?

Bye Cloud, thanks for playing.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Agent M | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:00:47 AM | Message Detail
Link 67.02%
Mega Man 32.98%

W

T

F

????


Cloud is finished.
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Current score 115/128 :( Next match: Link
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:05:11 AM | Message Detail
Link you can stop now... stop going up! Sheesh, we are talking tripling Snake at this point, another noble nine member...
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:05:36 AM | Message Detail
If Cloud pulls equally-impressive numbers against Samus...considering Zelda 10 and FF:AC will be out by next year, I would consider askin' CJay to retire Link and Cloud...hell, maybe Sephiroth, too, but probably not.

However, I don't think Cloud'll stay over 57% (used to say 45%, but today's match scared me back 2%).
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:06:25 AM | Message Detail
Link tripling Solid Snake would be absolutely ridiculous to see...and it could happen.
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From: goku z | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:10:32 AM | Message Detail
Lmao. Great stuff.


This just in: Link didn't get SFF on Ganondorf!


Ok maybe that is too extreme but still, LMAO at this current 67.13.

70% is possible here. I just hope Cloud doesn't do the same to Samus.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:12:32 AM | Message Detail
Wow. I never expected to see anything remotely close to Link getting so much as 67% in this match. That's just downright insane. I can say that Cloud is finished based on this performance. An epic finals? More like Link continuing his domination right through Cloud.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:12:59 AM | Message Detail
Whoa whoa whoa...at this rate, everybody's gonna do better than Tanner in the X-stats!!!

*realizes that it was never in question*
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:16:47 AM | Message Detail
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:16:56 AM | Message Detail
Link (2002) -> Clinkeroth (2003) -> Link (2004)

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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:17:33 AM | Message Detail
IFF Link wins this year, he'll have beaten every noble nine member except Sonic and Snake, and thats including the other 2/3 of the Clinkeroth.
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Next Pick: ViVi
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:19:52 AM | Message Detail
Wow... I wonder if Cloud is finished...

Damn... What a performance by Link.. I love you Megaman but you have surely disappointed me today...

*go cries while playing Megaman X*
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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:21:10 AM | Message Detail
IFF Link wins this year, he'll have beaten every noble nine member except Sonic and Snake, and thats including the other 2/3 of the Clinkeroth.

That's actually a damn-interesting stat right there. I gotta go to class, but can somebody list off what all "Noble Nine" members have been beaten by whoever else in their elite group?
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From: Agent M | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:22:47 AM | Message Detail
I always thought Mega Man > Mario and Crono.

This makes Snake look real bad.

If Samus puts up 40%+ on Cloud, I wonder where that would put Sonic.
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Current score 115/128 :( Next match: Link
From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:22:51 AM | Message Detail
Link is still a usable yardstick. Just because it won't show the proper real GAINS doesn't mean it won't the right relative gains (which it will).
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:23:27 AM | Message Detail
I have faith in you Cloud.. =)

*won't make comments until Sunday about Link vs. Cloud*

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:25:23 AM | Message Detail
Faith in a Cloud that did not move against this beast? Sorry, but it's just hard for me to believe that anyone not named Link can win this year's contest.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:31:17 AM | Message Detail
Mario - Def. Cloud, Crono X2.
Lost. Link, Sephiroth, Crono

Megaman - Def. Solid Snake X2
Lost. Sephiroth X2, Link

Samus - Def. Sonic X2
Lost. Sephiroth, Link

Solid Snake - Def. Nobody!
Lost. Megaman X2, Crono

Sonic - Def. Nobody!
Lost. Samus X2, Cloud

Cloud - Def. Link, Sephiroth x2, Sonic
Lost. Mario

Sephiroth - Def. Megaman X2, Samus, Mario
Lost. Cloud X2, Link

Link - Def. Samus, Megaman, Mario, Sephiroth, Crono
Lost. Cloud

Crono - Def. Mario, Solid Snake
Lost. Mario x2, Link
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:33:22 AM | Message Detail
Oh man, this is beautiful.

Mega Man is getting absolutely stomped. Just...beautiful.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:33:50 AM | Message Detail
Link is still on the rise. It's just amazing to think he's gone back to dominating this contest like 2002.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:36:49 AM | Message Detail
What if Link breaks on Cloud what he did on Sephiroth two years ago? I think Sunday would be the last contest match we ever see if that happens.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:37:05 AM | Message Detail
Whew... changed that sig just in time, eh HM?

Well, I think it's pretty safe to say Link has improved since last year. The question is... what caused it? If anything, Wind Waker should have exposed him to a larger audience before LAST year. In '03 he had WW, Soul Caliber 2, and in the later rounds, hype from the brand new Zelda 10 trailer all working for him. And he STILL got upset by Cloud. What's happened since then?

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:38:41 AM | Message Detail
Strangely enough NGamer, it's the same question that surrounded Samus since her early dominance. Why did they improve with nothing new?

Seeing how Link pretty much has this contest wrapped up, you'll probably see me put out my bracket this evening or tomorrow.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:40:42 AM | Message Detail
NGamer, the new Zelda game was announced May of 2004, during E3...
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi
From: Agent M | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:41:21 AM | Message Detail
Well, I figured Link would be stronger, but this is insanity.

People despise WW, and have gone nuts over the new Zelda.

Not sure about Samus, other than her games have had more time to sink in, and she has more games coming out.
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Current score 115/128 :( Next match: Link
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:48:36 AM | Message Detail
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:49:22 AM | Message Detail
Whoops! You're right Slang, I was thinking about the Game Contest for the Zelda trailer. But the same idea holds... even at it's freshest, the hype surrounding it wasn't enough to advance anything Zelda to the Final Four. So what gives?

And I don't see how you can pin this one up to "the death of the casual vote"... if anything, I would expect non-regulars to vote Link in even greater numbers.

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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:01:37 AM | Message Detail
Damn. What does this mean for Tanner? About .5% on Link? I did not expect a blowout this huge.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:11:24 AM | Message Detail
When I went to vote I saw Mega Man blasting and I thought, Boy Mega Man has the pic advantage and I voted for Mega Man and saw Link beating the **** out of Mega Man. But I then realized that the pictures were changing back and forth so that took Mega Man's pic advantage away, but still this badly!!!! Lucky I had him winning in my bracket
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Summer 2004 Contest 109/120 Samus vs. Sonic
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:13:50 AM | Message Detail
Right now Tanner's percent against Link is 3.18%
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:13:52 AM | Message Detail
Let's at least wait until we see Cloud's performance tomorrow before jumping to premature conclusions.

-Dabu

Think fast. Click faster.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:22:37 AM | Message Detail
I wonder what kind of pics CJayC would do for tomorrows match (can't wait so see Samus blasting Cloud)
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: Phediuk | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:24:32 AM | Message Detail
OUCH. Mega Man is gettin' his freakin' ASS kicked.

BTW...Ceej should win a ****ing medal for the two pics today. Genius.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 75
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:25:25 AM | Message Detail
Unbelievable. Tanner's a worse entry than Adventure!

What percentage does Link need for that to happen (Tanner getting 3.31% on him)?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: SSBMLink2 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:26:54 AM | Message Detail
Anybody found the link to tomorrows pic yet?
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:27:33 AM | Message Detail
It's already happened
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:28:11 AM | Message Detail
I know, but what percentage does Link need to not fall under?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:28:35 AM | Message Detail
The Link for tomorrow's pic will be posted here

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b62.jpg

(to see others change the numbers)
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:30:43 AM | Message Detail
I know, but what percentage does Link need to not fall under?

Link must keep Mega Man under 34%
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:35:50 AM | Message Detail
Well, I think it's pretty safe to say Link has improved since last year. The question is... what caused it?

Does nobody believe that the Zelda Collector's Edition could have had an effect, even now? I've been arguing for it having an effect since Link vs. CATS, and nobody ever believed me. I think that today, it's pretty clear that it's done something. After all, it did expose millions of non-fans to Zelda.
From: steve illumina | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:36:36 AM | Message Detail
Hmmm...only 553 ahead of me...but most wont fall til Linky beats up Cloudy on Sunday. *Go Link*

If only Frog would have won... *weeps*

Nice pics...Ceej took a page out of my satirical book and is mocking the fanboys with dual pics!

And as for Tanner.... well King Fodder I that he is will hold for a long time the dubious notion of being the most pathetic contest entrant of all time. Worse than Aiai, Driller, Ms. Pac Man and CATS...yep he is an embarrasment to Atari, Sony, and whoever dares to say they own a Driv3r game!

So let me say it again...the contest wide mantra of Steve Illumina...the tourney needs reforms! The Noble Nine must be kept out in favor of uniqueness and variety...allowing for interesting unpredictable matches all the way to the end! :)


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From: andaca | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:41:03 AM | Message Detail
Does nobody believe that the Zelda Collector's Edition could have had an effect, even now?

Nope, still don't.

MMAC, anyone? If you are even vaguely assuming that collector editions could help by more than miniscule amounts, you would have to include the effects of MMAC into such a consideration also. This does not look like a MM increase at all, and in light of that I have no reason to believe that the collectors edition is responsible for Link's apparent increase.

Unless of course Link breaks 56 percent or so on Cloud, in which case Mega Man may have actually seen a decent sized increase anyway. Which only let him finish at 32 percent. Ouch.
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2k4 - The Summer of Sephiroth.
From: andaca | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:44:00 AM | Message Detail
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16626156

In other news, HM has just used his amazing backfiring predicitive skills to ensure Cloud a 60 percent victory over Link. Which would put Tanner at about, oh, 2 percent or so.

;)
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2k4 - The Summer of Sephiroth.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:45:34 AM | Message Detail
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From: Parapsyche | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:45:50 AM | Message Detail
Information on the upcoming Zelda game in 2005 may also sway people. I remember people not voting for Link because it was WW Link, but the new darker Zelda that has been announced my be drawing some people back to it.

Not to say Link will win for sure, but it could definitely increase his votes.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:46:02 AM | Message Detail
And it doesn't make a difference that Zelda CE went out to more than ten times as many people? Seriously, in America it did better than Kingdom Hearts. It's in a whole different league than MMAC.
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:47:06 AM | Message Detail
I'm not giving up on Cloud yet. Mega Man has been too inconsistent to really tell me anything.

Plus, this sort of adds weight to my idea of fluctuations based on opponent, and that everyone has ideal opponents that they can overperform on. Mega Man had Tidus, and apparently...Link has Mega Man.
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From: franmars | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:47:36 AM | Message Detail
Thank God Tanner will rank below Adventure, he deserves it. Not only is he a useless character but his game is crap too. Many of the worst performing characters in the past such as AiAi, Mr Driller and Ms. Pac Man at least come from good games so they could hold their heads high, Tanner does not. Adventure is still a fun game to play even now, 20+ years after it's release. After 20 minutes of Driv3r people were calling it a piece of crap.
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SC2K4: 108/112
Todays Pick: Cloud Strife
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:48:49 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b62.php

The link to tomorrow's picture will be found here, actually.
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From: andaca | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:50:58 AM | Message Detail
And it doesn't make a difference that Zelda CE went out to more than ten times as many people?

I've never bought any of the CE theorizing, regardless of who its supporting. Could i see Link getting a very small increase out of it? Yep. Could i see a collectors edition getting him this sortof increase? Not a chance in hell.

I assume the people who visiit this site already know who Link is. It is not about exposure, its about popularity. I honestly feel that Zelda 10 has had some effect on contributing to the strength of Link - Similarly, i feel that Cloud's performance against Seph was due to hype surroudning AC. For all we know, MC's strong performaces have been partially due to the whole Halo 2/ilovebees affair. Personally, i feel that a brand new game/appearance which looks awesome is much more likely to boost a characters popularity that a rehash of old ones that isnt likely to reach much of a new audience.
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2k4 - The Summer of Sephiroth.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:52:39 AM | Message Detail
Link's shooting towards 68% now. This is just plain gross.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:58:15 AM | Message Detail
Something is obviously very strange with these results because all of a sudden, based on this match with a static Mega Man, 2004 Link shoots up to 60% on 2003 Link. Even compared to what he saw against Crono, that's a 5% increase. Maybe the picture has something to do with it, but I'm not quite sure. After how erratically the Blue Bomber has performed, I'm not taking this as a sign that Link will dominate.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:58:40 AM | Message Detail
If Link gets 69.25% Tanner would be at 3%
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:59:44 AM | Message Detail
Everything seems erratic this year. From Crono to Megaman to Snake to Sephiroth... the only constants are Link and Cloud murdering their competition. Only Link did it in a much more convincing fashion.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:00:55 AM | Message Detail
Going from 55% on his 2003 self to 60% on his 2003 self isn't consistent.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:02:26 AM | Message Detail
I meant, this year.

Although exposed like that... well, know how Samus was projected to get 60% on Cloud in the early rounds? Same here. Link improvement + Megaman performing in the lower part of his performance range = virgin on prom night.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Tai | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:03:27 AM | Message Detail
All your base are belong to Link.

You have no chance, make your time. :-)
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:03:27 AM | Message Detail
I'll just say it again: the stats this year are going to be worthless. A good laugh because of how messed up they'll be, but worthless.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:04:26 AM | Message Detail
Why assume that the 2003 stats will be the accurate ones, and not 2004? Why not the other way around?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 120/128 - Matches: 56/60 - Rank: 00433/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus
From: Seijun | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:07:03 AM | Message Detail
Then, suddenly, for no reason at all, the voting patterns decide to erratically swing towards Samus' way in the next two polls and she beats both Cloud and Link with less then 10 votes, combined!

...hey, I can dream can't I?

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From: franmars | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:09:25 AM | Message Detail
I agree with Slowflake, with this being only the third contest, it's far to early to say which year is an anomaly. There simply isn't enough data yet. We just got so used to looking at the SC2K3 data that anything different seems weird now
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SC2K4: 108/112
Todays Pick: Cloud Strife
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:09:57 AM | Message Detail
Sorry to veer you guys out of the current discussion..

But do you think it would be cool if CjayC decides to have a Best. TagTeam. Character. Contest?

I.E. Link/Ganondorf, Cloud/Sephiroth, Mario/Luigi, Solid/Liquid, Megaman/Zero, etc...But then again, there aren't probably that many characters that can team up well together..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Samus
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:21:23 AM | Message Detail
you this may be confusing now, but at the beginning of the contest we had the matches settled and most of us agreed where all the characters were to end up and they did (except Sora and Tails). Most of us knew it would end up being Link vs. Cloud in the finals and only Sephiroth would come close. Things just got a little weird in the middle, but they all finshed where most of us expected.
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: RamzaB | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:27:05 AM | Message Detail
Did CJayC ever fix the poll?
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:29:17 AM | Message Detail
This is a thrashing of epic proportions. If Link owns the day vote like against Crono, we very well may see him approach 70%. On Mega Man. Which is 5% more than he got on Magus, and 7% more than he got on Crono. Link is a freakin' beast this year, but Cloud hasn't exactly underperformed. This has all the makings of one helluva stab-out come Sunday. And I just dying waiting for that match picture.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:30:41 AM | Message Detail
HOLY CRAP, Megaman's doing worse than Magus!







PWNED
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:40:19 AM | Message Detail
This should NOT be happening. I had accepted Mega's loss, and that it wouldn't exactly be close. But this is just sickening. Sign me up for the "Retire the Champion" team, and **** the naysayers.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:41:03 AM | Message Detail
Needless to say, I am LOVING this. ;)
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From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:48:27 AM | Message Detail
This is awful. Link and Cloud are just matching each other. Cloud beats down the force that is Sephiroth.... now Link is making Mega Man his *****....... good lord.
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Wednesday 9/29/04
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:50:12 AM | Message Detail
I am not going to lie. If Cloud slaps up 60%+ on Samus tomorrow, I think there needs to be serious consideration for the retiring of Cloud and Link. I mean, 60%+ on Samus does mean then that Sephiroth would be leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else, but with all the sequels on the plate for the upcoming year, I wouldn't be shocked if Samus and Mega Man could at least put up respectable matches against the silver-haired one. Samus more so than Mega, as he was pimp-smacked around last year by Sephiroth.

You really cannot retire Sephiroth just because he is worlds ahead of everyone else, because he has never won anything. That would be like calling the Buffalo Bills a dynasty.
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From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:51:36 AM | Message Detail
You know I just thought of something. What if Link is getting some SFF on Mega here.... Mega WAS on Link's system for most of his career.
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate
From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:53:38 AM | Message Detail
Anyone doubting what I said about Link and him dropping in 2003 being the exception with all Wind Waker pics except for the sprite. It's not the actual PIC but it's the portrayal of Link.... I think there IS a difference, and Link makes that difference the exception.

Like I said before, this isn't Zelda 10 hype because all we've seen is one trailer. It's the hype behind seeing Link go back to being the popular "adult" badass he was in OoT. Granted this isn't classic Link, but still Ocarina of Time wasn't the most popular Zelda game for nothing (even though it's not the BEST).....

Hmmm... I pushed for Link to get 65% and he met it. I wonder if Samus will get the 45% on Cloud that I'm pushing for....
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:55:16 AM | Message Detail
More than that would be the SFF of the old-gamer generation (us late teen-early drinkers). It is possible, but given that Sephiroth got 60% on Mega Man last year, and Cloud got 55% on Sephiroth this year. Here, statisticans... what would Link need on Sephiroth in order for Link's 68% on Mega Man to be identical to Sephiroth's 60% on Mega Man?
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 10/1/2004 10:58:57 AM | Message Detail
You know I just thought of something. What if Link is getting some SFF on Mega here.... Mega WAS on Link's system for most of his career.

I totally agree. All results in this contest are relative. People assume that only people of the same company can share a fanbase. People of the same genre can share a fanbase as well as people of the same generation. Mario vs. Mega Man might be a weird match as well... Now say for instance Mega Man went up against Ryu... Would you REALLY think there would be any SFF in that match just because they both HAPPEN to be Capcom? Jill/Ryu? But like the popular saying now says, SFF is very "fickle".

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From: jonthomson | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:00:21 AM | Message Detail
Wow. This is a pwning of epic proportions, and means I definitely finish on a poor 128.
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From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:00:27 AM | Message Detail
tnote, i'd answer that for you, but I've pretty much thrown the Ex's out the window, and said to hell with them at this point.
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate
From: Alanna82 | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:01:06 AM | Message Detail
that pic is really unfair to mega man.... ;_;
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From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:02:29 AM | Message Detail
it is but... it's rather fitting.
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:03:45 AM | Message Detail
I'm surprised that this topic has been flooded
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:04:25 AM | Message Detail
opps it's supposed to be hasn't
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Summer 2004 Contest 117/128 Link vs. Mega Man
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:04:59 AM | Message Detail
Even when combining both pics, Link seems to have the picture advantage. Come on, that zapped Link is just hilarious. ~_^
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:05:24 AM | Message Detail
Go Cloud!
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/1/2004 11:06:13 AM | Message Detail
I think it's customary to just give it to Link right now. Anyone disagree?
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