Going to work, be back later, blah blah.

***Stats websites***

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/extrapolated.php

Summer 2002 Extrapotated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k2_extrapolated.htm

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k3_extrapolated.htm

Character comparisons Between Summer 2002 and Summer 2003:
http://sc2k4.com/summer_comparisons.php

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

***Stats topics***

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

Creativename's Links Page:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

***Miscellaneous***

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k4.com/update.php (add "?pollid=[4-digit poll number]" at the end of url to look at charts from past polls)

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=2

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=3

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=2

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Omg taggilishis.

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PWNT by my Dad.
Married to Every Girl on GFAQs Without their Knowledge of such.

tags
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74/76 points in sc2004
And yes I know my username is lame.

Got here just in time to tag this.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Go Link!
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Well, when the parents are away... brother and sister can play..

I didn't want to have to change my sig to --> Link (2004), so I got rid of it.
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"It's over for you...Your life ends here!" ~ Magus

Tag

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Sephiroth

wtf is a tag
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BtT: 3:49.06 | HRC: 51,246.1 ft OV aaaargh
I keep getting sig'd for the weirdest things lately - StW

*kicks topic*
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Hey, creative (or someone else...RPGuy or somebody), if you have time, would you mind doing some plotting/least-squares/whatever of the 2002 West, and then calculating the best value for Sephiroth against Link?

I've never had a stats course, but I just looked up the least-square method and I think I get it. What I don't get is what you're asking for...do you mean the value for Seph against Link in 2k2 that brings the other characters (Sonic, Samus, etc) closest to their 2k3 value?
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Hey... first time posting here, please don't hurt me... ^^;

What if CJayC used a picture of Cloud/Sephiroth from the Kingdom Hearts fight beween the two of them? I think that would look pretty neat....

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"Okay, it's a promise then. If you break it, I'll uphold the Mizuho tradition of making liars swallow a thousand needles!" -Sheena, Tales of Symphonia

a tag is just a post made so that the topic will appear on your View Posted Messages screen so it's easier to find.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

do you mean the value for Seph against Link in 2k2 that brings the other characters (Sonic, Samus, etc) closest to their 2k3 value?

Yeah, I meant it like that...sorry, I'm not very good at explaining things sometimes. :P Thanks.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I'll see what I can do. It might take me a while, though.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

*hurts Sheena*

Nah, ToS fans are always welcome in my book. And a Cloud/Sephy "Showdown of Fate" pic would be awesome.
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

I know what a tag is, I just like saying wtf is a _____.
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BtT: 3:49.06 | HRC: 51,246.1 ft OV aaaargh
I keep getting sig'd for the weirdest things lately - StW

What if CJayC used a picture of Cloud/Sephiroth from the Kingdom Hearts fight beween the two of them? I think that would look pretty neat....

that's a very good idea, but I wonder if he can get away with using a direct screen capture from it?

and I like tomorrow's pic, and I wouldn't say it underrates solid snake, he looks to be dodging the blow, and he's getting ready to shoot one of his own.
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I'll see what I can do. It might take me a while, though.

For your well being and sanity, I wouldn't recommend doing this without Maple/Mathematica/anything similar...unless you really want to go through hell...
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle),
SC2k4 Oracle Challenge - Topic ID : 16485175

Link 63% 56534
Crono 37% 33206

Some good news, at least.

I haven't plotted anything yet, I've just played with some numbers in Excel and it looks like ~=38.65% minimizes the differences in the (2k3-2k2)^2 column.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b59.jpg

Damn. Sheena was right.

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

Whoa, Cloud/Seph pic is cool.
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BtT: 3:49.06 | HRC: 51,246.1 ft OV aaaargh
I keep getting sig'd for the weirdest things lately - StW

38.65%...nice. That's almost exactly as I guesstimated earlier. Hm...and upping 2002 Cloud to 40% and keeping Crono the same helps the proportions among Tails, Knuckles, and Sonic fit quite well with 2K3 and 2K4 (2K2 Tails still seems a tad low).

So, Cloud may have been more popular than Sephiroth in 2002...

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Come on Snake... get 43.01%... for great justice!
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=16514869 Petition: Bring SC2K5 to Board 8!
SC2k4: 100/104 Rank: T-92

I'm not sure if I did this right (having a stats course would probably help, but I won't have one until my 2nd year of college), but I set this up in Excel:

Losing % : Link %2k3 : XS : Least Square Difference
Sephiroth : 38.57 : 38.57
Samus : 47.36 : 36.53 : 36.72 : 0.03
Sonic : 49.98 : 36.52 : 33.79 : 7.45
Ken : 34.69 : 25.35 : 21.01 : 18.81
Ryu : 42.15 : 30.80 : 30.69 : 0.01
CATS : 19.21 : 11.83 : 13.52 : 2.85
Tidus : 41.17 : 30.07 : 34.25 : 17.48
Mega : 49.49 : 38.18 : 38.60 : 0.18
Crash : 18.48 : 14.26 : 17.46 : 10.27

Sum of the L-SD 57.07357266

I gave up on the spacing. I made formulas for all the XS values and just changed the Sephiroth number until the sum of the L-SD was a minimum. That happens to be at 38.57% for Sephiroth. If I knew how to get Excel to plot a varying Seph number versus the sum of the L-SD's I'd do it, but I don't know how. I'm not sure if this was what you were asking for, but it seems to make sense. The glaring errors are Ken, who magically dropped like a rock, Tidus, who then gets more of a KH increase, and Crash, who mysteriously went up.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Losing % : Link %2k3 : XS : Least Square Difference

Ack, I screwed up my semicolons. It should read:

Losing % : Link % : 2k3 XS : Least Square Difference

The losing % is what the character got against the West Division character they lost to, and were used to get the Link %, which is in 2k2 numbers. That's subtracted from the 2k3 numbers and squared to get the L-SD.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b59.jpg

You'd have to be an idiot to not vote Sephiroth with a match pic like that. Dear God.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I hope CJayC keeps up this trend of giving Mega Man good pictures for one more round. If we get a Mega Man X sprite blasting WW Link in the head next round, maybe MM will stand a chance of winning. =)
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 92/96
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Link with 54.5%

beat ya to the punch here, too, Ulti :p

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

I'm sure you feel like more of a man.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I do. I feel stronger... more virile... now that I've beaten my nemesis, UltimaterializerX, in posting the match picture.

:p

Although technically, we both lost out to Ms. Sheena, who called it. O.o unless she saw it beforehand, she's like... psychic.

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

any one else thinks its kinda small?
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Geez, that Snake pic is terrible. He's not even facing the audience...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

You'd have to be an idiot to not vote Sephiroth with a match pic like that. Dear God.

Aren't you a heavy believer that pics don't matter in votes?

I'm already getting mad about how over-rated the pic is; don't get me wrong, it's pretty cool, but I think Link/Crono is alot cooler, and I can think of several more tomorrow if I need to (I'm goin' to bed after I post this). Plus, I like the classic FF7 looks Cloud and Sephiroth had more, whether it be art or in-game. These "Bat-Cloud/Bat-Sephiroth" shots do hardly anything for me.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Is it just me or did Cloud steal Vincent's cape and claw-hand for his KH look?
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

Very nice start by Mega Man. 61% against Snake is dang solid. Let's see if it holds up past the B8 vote.
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Overanalyzing Character Battles since 2002!

77.09% had Link as the Hyrule champion. Note that. More than three quarters of all the brackets had Link winning in a division with two other Noble Niners. Methinks Link shall be a heavy favourite in his next match.
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Edge Eblan faces his greatest challenge to date at www.rpgdl.com - getting a piece of Emerald WEAPON!

Well, when historically only 2 people in the tournament can get him under 60% people will catch on...
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Overanalyzing Character Battles since 2002!

I specifically asked CJayC himself to use that match pic. I beat you all to the punch days ago.

By the way, if we see the theme from the 2002 finals in this year's Final Four, then it officially means that I own you all. It was another request in that e-mail of mine =)
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

snake is still holding his ground! yes!
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Solid Snake owns.

Nope. Didn't hold up. Mega down to 54%. Mega Man will get the Mega Ownage next round.

Just like everyone else in this tournament. =\ There's no point in analyzing all this crap when the same people can't be brought under 60%.....ever.
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Overanalyzing Character Battles since 2002!

Score-Brackets-% Right
96----1--------100.0000000
95----7--------100.0000000
94----21-------100.0000000
93----62-------98.3870968
92----103------98.0582524
91----138------93.4782609
90----149------93.2885906
89----178------92.6966292
88----217------88.9400922
87----275------93.0909091
86----311------88.7459807
85----361------90.3047091
84----417------88.7290168
83----467------87.5802998
82----544------86.2132353
81----582------85.7388316
80----716------85.0558659
79----760------85.5263158
78----867------84.7750865
77----865------85.6647399
76----1043-----83.7967402
75----1031-----83.3171678
74----1093-----83.4400732
73----1117-----84.1539839
72----1161-----83.5486649
71----1163-----82.8890800
70----1196-----80.8528428
69----1173-----79.1986360
68----1245-----78.5542169
67----1139-----81.2993854
66----1103-----80.2357208
65----1077-----79.8514392
64----1078-----79.0352505
63----973------77.5950668
62----980------76.1224490
61----919------75.7344940
60----859------78.6961583
59----767------73.4028683
58----711------72.0112518
57----673------70.5794948
56----672------73.2142857
55----549------70.4918033
54----476------67.0168067
53----437------64.7597254
52----395------62.7848101
51----360------62.5000000
50----306------54.5751634
49----270------56.2962963
48----254------55.1181102
47----215------53.0232558
46----195------46.1538462
45----181------46.9613260
44----139------43.8848921
43----148------49.3243243
42----126------40.4761905
41----114------43.8596491
40----90-------36.6666667
39----90-------38.8888889
38----73-------31.5068493
37----69-------28.9855072
36----52-------30.7692308
35----49-------14.2857143
34----50-------30.0000000
33----35-------20.0000000
32----29-------24.1379310
31----26-------15.3846154
30----24-------12.5000000
29----14-------21.4285714
28----17-------5.8823529
27----12-------0.0000000
26----6--------16.6666667
25----11-------0.0000000
24----10-------10.0000000
23----0--------N/A
22----8--------0.0000000
21----3--------33.3333333

Nobody with a score of 20 or less got the match right. Not very many people in the top tiers had Link losing this match. Despite this one person still fell off the Top 50. XFantasyRyu15 did not have Link winning this match, in fact he/she had Crono winning the contest.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

thing is, most of these fools like to set up false hope for themselves so they can make themselves believe the contest will be more interesting.

It was Link VS Cloud before the contest started and it'll be Link VS Cloud when the final rolls around, nothings changed.

I'm just curious by how much exactly will Samus get destroyed by Cloud. Maybe 61-39. Yeah, that's my prediction.
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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Yeah, barring a miracle showing next round by Mega Man/Samus, the rest of this contest doesn't really interest me much. I'm actually HOPING my bracket will not be perfect from the Samus/Sam match until the end either. Way too many people are going to have high scores by the end of this if that happened, which means outside of the first two rounds, the contest is becoming too painfully easy to predict...
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

We can still hope for a miracle. It may happen, it may not. But don't you dare call us non-cookie cutters fools.
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Edge Eblan faces his greatest challenge to date at www.rpgdl.com - getting a piece of Emerald WEAPON!

It wont be 61--39, Samus is stronger than Crono.

I say 56-57

There will be no miracle, just accept it. Link brought a lot of people back down to reality and MM is also bringing more false believers back as well. I'm just waiting to see by what percentage Cloud will destroy Samus so all the Samus nonsense can end.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

I dunno, it makes it kinda pointless to do this when we /know/ who's going to take the top places. Like we keep saying, Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Link, Cloud, Sephiroth.

I'm thinking if this contest comes to a Link/Cloud finals again, it's time to retire those two and let other characters duke it out. Granted, everyone will play the "But he can't beat Link or Cloud" card, but it's better than the same blasted people dominating every year.
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Overanalyzing Character Battles since 2002!

I exspect Solid Snake to make it into the final four next year thanks to MGS3
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Solid Snake owns.

They should make an obscure character contest with abstract character's who aren't well known or well designed. That's the type of contest we need because it'll be fresh and a complete mystery to all.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Shut up Cronton, you are one of those people who just ruin this contest.

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Oh calling someone a wuss over the internet, what a brave and noble statement.

crying over a silly little contest because your character isnt't winning, oh what a great way to not be called a dork.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

My character is Link and he IS winning... What makes these contest fun is the possibility of unexpected events. Dont ruin other people's fun.

Also you might want to slow down on the posts, you are using up your 30 a little early.

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Are you done throwing your hissy fit yet?

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]

Calm down, gentlemen.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
*creator of Clinkeroth*

Mega Man better have a hell of the day vote for Heroic Mario's sake.

Ulti influencing the match pic? If I see a WW pic for Link at any point in the next two rounds then I will have fury..... -_-

Oh yeah, and cut out the flaming. It's not called for. Besides, cronton is mad cool for doing that character public recognition study.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

The flaming been kind of one sided.

thumbs up realmnm. I'm getting pressured to do a third one but let's not talk about that at the moment...

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Yeah, why did you attack chronton for no reason? Bad mood? ><
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Sort of. I am just tired of seeing these posts. Look the contest is so people can have fun. Most of us realize it will always be Cloud vs Link, but still we hope it be something different. No reason to bring a rain on everyone's parade, especially since that is Ulti's job.

Would it have been Cloud vs. Link 5-6 years ago? Things will ALWAYS change; we just need to have patience.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
*creator of Clinkeroth*

His job's been split into two. Actually no, I'm probably worse when it comes to telling it to you like it is.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Also I am at 3 in the mourning doing Calculus homework. No one would be happy under these circumstances.

Make that 6-7 years ago. :P
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
*creator of Clinkeroth*

Now that I reread the posts, I am sorry cronton. I just misintepreted your posts. I thought they were a bit more harsh againist people hoping for different results than it actually was. Chalk it up to tiredness.

that's it? Just an apology? No hugs and kisses?

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

I can do more than that....



I can give you a donut.

by the way, on a more serious note:

assuming Snake keeps his current percentage up throughout the rest of the match, what can we conclude?

1. Snake hasn't dropped, he stayed consistent from last year and Frog/Master Chief simply surprised?

2. MM dropped and Tidus and Shadow dropped much much more?

3. Neither, transitivity sucks!

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

whoa... Snake is cutting into MM's lead as I type this.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

They should make an obscure character contest with abstract character's who aren't well known or well designed. That's the type of contest we need because it'll be fresh and a complete mystery to all.

The problem with this idea is that if you do that, no one cares who wins because no one cares about the characters. The same ones that make the contest predictable are the ones that people actually want to see. People barely got excited about Ryu vs. Jill, so how much are people going to care when Commander Keen faces Leisure Suit Larry in the semifinals?

The predictability is a hard problem to solve - I don't think retiring everyone is the answer.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 100/104
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Mega Man with 60.5%

Dude, it was a joke.

Don't tell me you took it seriously?

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Red, I think you're too hard on me. I was expressing myself mildly this time and I still got modded.

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Human beings are like rabbits: they're totally clueless, wander around aimlessly and reproduce like mad.

Out of this match, I think I can predict at least something for Link vs MM. Lets just pretend MM holds a 55-45 lead over Snake which might be giving him too much credit. Link defeated Crono at 62-38. Crono beat Mario with 53.24. Mario beat Shadow by 55.10 last year. Tidus beat Shadow this year by 50.81. MegaMan beat Tidus by 64.78

Another way is Snake beat Ryu by 57.26. Sonic beat Ryu by 55.54. Cloud beat Sonic by 66.21. Cloud beat Link by 51.89.

I got that MM should get anywhere from 42-44 on Link.

Wow, Snake is putting up one hell of a fight. He actually gained some ground.
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Current score 91/104 :( Next match: Mega Man

Well, if it wasn't obvious before, it's clearly obvious that Link is going to the final... although if these percentages stay the same (or even if MM pulls up to about 55%), that, IMO, says a lot more about Snake, Frog, MC and Liquid than it does about Mega Man.

T-624 now. Can't see enough people getting today's match wrong to push me into the top 500 before my bracket hits that big, red button labelled "self destruct"... unless, of course, Sephiroth can pull off the upset. Doesn't look likely at the moment, but if it does... well Link's looking the favourite at the moment anyway. Still, it's been nice managing to get a decent run of correct guesses together, MM over Snake will be 24 in a row. It's not 58 in a row, but it still looks nice.
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Jon Thomson - today: Mega Man, tomorrow: Sephiroth - 96/104
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Now, I like Solid Snake, alot...but if Mega Man expects to have a shot against Link next round, he HAS to blow him out with the day-vote. Come on Mega Man.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

I just recently created a possible SC2K5 Bracket. Tell me what you guys think:

Meteor Division

(1) Cloud Strife
(16) Lara Croft

(8) Tommy Vercetti
(9) Scorpion

(5) Vivi
(12) Ryo Hazuki

(4) Bowser
(13) Pac-Man

(6) Master Chief
(11) Ryu Hayabusa

(3) Solid Snake
(14) Sam Fisher

(7) Kirby
(10) Vyse

(2) Crono
(15) Guybrush Threepwood

Mega Division

(1) Mega Man
(16) CATS

(8) Luigi
(9) Kefka

(5) Tidus
(12) Pikachu

(4) Squall Leonheart
(13) Ness

(6) Sora
(11) Jill Valentine

(3) Ganondorf
(14) Jak

(7) Miles "Tails" Prower
(10) Laharl

(2) Samus Aran
(15) Kasumi

Tri-Force Division

(1) Link
(16) Duke Nukem

(8) Shadow the Hedgehog
(9) Yoshi

(5) Alucard
(12) Fox McCloud

(4) Zero
(13) Earthworm Jim

(6) Zelda
(11) Yuna

(3) Aeris Gainsborough
(14) Crash Bandicoot

(7) Knuckles the Echidna
(10) Protoman

(2) Sephiroth
(15) Ken Masters

Mushroom Division

(1) Mario
(16) Gordon Freeman

(8) Dante
(9) KOS-MOS

(5) Auron
(12) Bomberman

(4) Ryu
(13) Terry Bogard

(6) Frog
(11) Viewtiful Joe

(3) Magus
(14) Conker

(7) Donkey Kong
(10) Max Payne

(2) Sonic the Hedgehog
(15) Ratchet
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Current SC2K4 Score: 101/104
COWS are for Milking, not GAMES

first of all, that Cloud vs. Sephiroth pic ****ing rules all.

and now Solid Snake is performing right where he should be, with 47%, which is still better than Zero. told ya Megaman had no chance against Link. *waits for Heroic Mario to post another crazy justification about how Megaman can still beat Link*

although, i still can't explain how Tidus dropped so hard. maybe he really was good at getting the now reduced casual vote. *shrugs*

here's the unadjusted X-Stats from Link's division:

50.00% Link
37.18% Crono
34.77% Mario
22.47% Magus
20.41% Bowser
18.62% Yoshi
16.95% Luigi
16.37% Conker

12.17% CATS
12.10% Ganondorf
11.44% JC Denton
10.93% Pac-Man
10.37% Alucard
08.79% Ryo Hazuki
08.52% Luca Blight
06.95% Guybrush Threepwood

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

This has probably been posted a billion times before, but does anyone have a list of previous contest winners? A hall of fam would be a cool thing IMO.

heh, that looks funny with Conker better than half the division and CATS in 9th place. it's also eerie that with those X-Stat values, Bowser would be expected to get 54.39% against Yoshi (which isn't far from the 56.3% he got last year). it's funny that Link dished out almost as much of a SFF against Yoshi as Mario did against Bowser.


This has probably been posted a billion times before, but does anyone have a list of previous contest winners? A hall of fam would be a cool thing IMO.

it's a lot of work, but here goes:

Summer 2K2: Link
Summer 2K3: Cloud

*whew* that was a tough list to complete. oh, almost forgot about the Spring Contests, too:

Spring 2K4: Final Fantasy 7

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

and ya know, seeing how Solid Snake is almost as strong as last year, i am really starting to think that he really did lose a few percentage points of votes to that craptacular pic last round.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

Finishing posting the updates:

19:15 | Link | 52305 | +0682 | 63.21% | Crono | 30446 | +0381 | 36.79% | Lead of 21859 | (Up 301)
19:30 | Link | 52912 | +0607 | 63.19% | Crono | 30819 | +0373 | 36.81% | Lead of 22093 | (Up 234)
19:45 | Link | 53480 | +0568 | 63.19% | Crono | 31157 | +0338 | 36.81% | Lead of 22323 | (Up 230)
20:00 | Link | 54018 | +0538 | 63.16% | Crono | 31508 | +0351 | 36.84% | Lead of 22510 | (Up 187)
20:15 | Link | 54488 | +0470 | 63.10% | Crono | 31863 | +0355 | 36.90% | Lead of 22625 | (Up 115)
20:30 | Link | 54949 | +0461 | 63.06% | Crono | 32189 | +0326 | 36.94% | Lead of 22760 | (Up 135)
20:45 | Link | 55407 | +0458 | 63.07% | Crono | 32445 | +0256 | 36.93% | Lead of 22962 | (Up 202)
21:00 | Link | 55804 | +0397 | 63.04% | Crono | 32720 | +0275 | 36.96% | Lead of 23084 | (Up 122)
21:15 | Link | 56191 | +0387 | 63.02% | Crono | 32967 | +0247 | 36.98% | Lead of 23224 | (Up 140)
21:30 | Link | 56549 | +0358 | 62.99% | Crono | 33219 | +0252 | 37.01% | Lead of 23330 | (Up 106)
21:45 | Link | 56896 | +0347 | 62.97% | Crono | 33461 | +0242 | 37.03% | Lead of 23435 | (Up 105)
22:00 | Link | 57215 | +0319 | 62.96% | Crono | 33657 | +0196 | 37.04% | Lead of 23558 | (Up 123)
22:15 | Link | 57492 | +0277 | 62.95% | Crono | 33834 | +0177 | 37.05% | Lead of 23658 | (Up 100)
22:30 | Link | 57724 | +0232 | 62.93% | Crono | 34002 | +0168 | 37.07% | Lead of 23722 | (Up 64)
22:45 | Link | 57951 | +0227 | 62.90% | Crono | 34175 | +0173 | 37.10% | Lead of 23776 | (Up 54)
23:00 | Link | 58152 | +0201 | 62.88% | Crono | 34322 | +0147 | 37.12% | Lead of 23830 | (Up 54)
23:15 | Link | 58344 | +0192 | 62.87% | Crono | 34450 | +0128 | 37.13% | Lead of 23894 | (Up 64)
23:30 | Link | 58513 | +0169 | 62.86% | Crono | 34571 | +0121 | 37.14% | Lead of 23942 | (Up 48)
23:45 | Link | 58677 | +0164 | 62.83% | Crono | 34706 | +0135 | 37.17% | Lead of 23971 | (Up 29)
00:00 | Link | 58840 | +0163 | 62.82% | Crono | 34821 | +0115 | 37.18% | Lead of 24019 | (Up 48)

Complete shut out. =)
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Some of those percentages seem incorrect. Let me try.

Link 50.00%
Crono 37.18%
Mario 34.77%
Magus 22.47%
Bowser 20.41%
Yoshi 18.26%
Luigi 16.62%
Conker 16.37%
CATS 12.17%
Ganondorf 12.10%
JC Denton 11.45%
Pac-Man 10.73%
Alucard 10.37%
Ryo Hazuki 8.62%
Luca Blight 8.52%
Guybrush Threepwood 6.94%
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SC2K4 Score: 96/104
Today's Pick: Mega Man

I just looked at the results... and... uh... =/.

Perhaps Leonhart's theory about Tidus falling apart to elite characters held some weight?

And I doubt HM can think that MM can win now, especially after Link beat Crono around like a rag doll all day. =/
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16572461

Board 8 chosen bracket. Please take a couple of minutes and say who should get the #1 seeds, thanks.
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Jon Thomson - today: Mega Man, tomorrow: Sephiroth - 96/104
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Whoops. Forgive me for not being specific enough...^_^ I was asking about which users won the contest! Sorry about that.

Dude, Cloud/Sephiroth pic ROCKS!
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Jesus is awesome.
Board Wanderer. SC2k4 Points: 101/104

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/FAH_Frenchie/sum04b60.jpg

That is such a good Sonic/Samus.
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me.

Also, wtf is up with Snake then?
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me.

Spring:
First place: Ultimaterializer
Second: Kirin

others- not me.

<_<
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" RPGE777:ChocoCid

Hello there, Tidus underperformance. I've been saying it all along. There's your anamoly. Perhaps Tidus actually DID fall because of WDF last year, but Sonic's overperformance exceeded the drop and Tidus rose slightly.

Thanks for playing, Mega Man. Try again next year.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Either way, the stats this year are going to be absolutely worthless. A fun read, but absolutely worthless. Snake's performance today just adds to that.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Also, Heroic Mario maintains his pattern of either being dead on or off by about 10%.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Not exactly worthless, I'd say. Of course, Tidus, Shadow, Sam and Lara, and to a lesser extent Mario, will be big question marks going into next year's contest. But downright useless?... Once we adjust SFF, it's going to be good as new. And it's not like Megaman is astonishing the crowd today either. He may be able to get 40% on Link, but that's pretty much it. gg, come again.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Oh yeah, and that pic rivals FF10/SSBM in sheer unfairness.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

I hope you all believe now that Auron could beat Tidus. :) Tidus didn't crumble against Sonic, now did he?

Wow, this is closer than I expected. I thought Snake was weaker than that...

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Actually, I'm still very skeptical about this. Tidus/Megaman seems to be the odd one out, especially considering we've seen Tidus in action in another match this year.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

And our one sole perfect falls tomorrow...

Its just too predictable, ya know? :)
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Steve Illumina: The Elite Satirist of GameFAQ's
SC2K4: 103/112 MK Deception: Oct 5!

I've NEVER believed that MM has a shot at Link.

But even I was expecting MM to get 60% due to Snake's apparent drop.

I'm pretty damn sure now that MM has NOT increased significantly, and he might not increase at all.

I guess looking like a piece of **** DOES hurt...

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Its just too predictable, ya know? :)

The more predictable the better, that way we can accurately gauge newcomers's strengths.


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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Hmm. Doesn't look like MM went up much at all since last year.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Snake didn't drop at all. Sonic characters got stronger. Frog was a force to be reckoned with. And now Snake and Mega Man will be about the same as last year. Also, we probably won't see HM show his face in this topic all day since his proclaimed "OMG MM IS GOD AND WILL GET 65% ON SNAKE WTF OMG BBQ"
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:40.11 || HRC 37,592.3 ||
Currently Tied for 1677th place

I still blame Snake's picture. Next year if he goes up against Magus, Ganondorf or even MC (If Halo 2 didn't flop) in round 3 I think they have a good chance at winning
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Summer 2004 Contest 85/96 Link vs. Crono

Yeah, Snake got just about the most unrecognizable pic possible last round-Metal Gear 2 wasn't even released in America, for God's sake.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

That pic was completely unfair. This one's kinda silly too, it looks like he's a split second away from being incinerated by Mega Man.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Yesterday’s match reminds me of a few weeks ago when a friend of mine convinced me to wrestle him… I’m 5’8” and I weigh about 110 lbs. He, on the other hand, is 6’4” and weighs 250 – 260 lbs. Not sure how he managed to convince me when I knew he had an 8 inch height advantage and about at least a 140 lb weight advantage... O_o

… Take a guess who was “Crono”, so to speak.

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

0_o

55.55%?

This sucks.

At least it makes my Tidus/MC mock battle look better.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Well it has gone up a fair bit. It was at 52.84% about four hours ago...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

That's because Konami usually rules the first night vote, but square rules the second
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Summer 2004 Contest 85/96 Link vs. Crono

Wow, I'm surprised Mega Man's not doing better. I never expected him to come close to Link, but I thought he'd get at least around 58%. Ouchies.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 92/96, Next Winner: Link

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 9/28/2004 10:19:01 AM | Message Detail
That's because Konami usually rules the first night vote, but square rules the second

Ruling the night vote means doing better than going down 60-40 at the start of the poll. BLIZZARD and Square currently own the night vote.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

From: cronton | Posted: 9/28/2004 4:27:35 AM | Message Detail
Red, I think you're too hard on me. I was expressing myself mildly this time and I still got modded.

No need to blame red13n. You likely would have gotten off with nothing had I not marked the posts for trolling, as red doesn't read this topic.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Once we adjust SFF, it's going to be good as new.

That's the hard part. We don't exactly know how much SFF to adjust for since the amount per match isn't uniform. You can't tell if these SFF'd characters went up, went down, or stayed the same.

It's going to be odd to see Master Chief in the top 15, that's for sure.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Ruling the night vote means doing better than going down 60-40 at the start of the poll. BLIZZARD and Square currently own the night vote.

I don't recall Starcraft ever doing that well at the beginning of the poll - but considering the competition, I think that is okay...

And I think it was taking in 55%+ during the second night vote - Starcraft had nearly 62% of the update against Halo once...

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Snake is over 10,000 votes... And it only took 7 hours and 50 minutes to get there. XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Mega Man didn't exactly get there in a flash himself. His lead is still less than 3,000. These poor vote totals just make everything look bad.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

HM, this shall be a barnburner, though I fear Mega Man will break 57%. I can't see Snake keeping him under that with the day vote still to come... but we shall see.

In any case... Thanks for playing MM, and don't let the door hit you on the way out, when you get trounced by Link.
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SC2k4: 100/104 Rank: T-91

Snake is over 10,000 votes... And it only took 7 hours and 50 minutes to get there. XD

I was going to ask: is it just me, or are vote totals pretty low for this match? It might just be me because I haven't been around for matches at this time of day most of the time.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 92/96, Next Winner: Link

I don't recall Starcraft ever doing that well at the beginning of the poll - but considering the competition, I think that is okay...

Starcraft jumped out to the early lead against four of the most powerful games in the Spring Contest, and managed to beat three of them, with the aid of the night vote.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I was going to ask: is it just me, or are vote totals pretty low for this match? It might just be me because I haven't been around for matches at this time of day most of the time.

Compared to Link vs. Crono (which was behind Link vs. Yoshi but managed to catch up and pass it late in the poll):

Link vs. Crono at 7:58:39 - 24,324
Mega Man vs. Snake at 7:58:32 - 23,264

Vote totals seem to be much lower earlier in the day and recovers some as the poll goes on. Many matches take 5 or 6 hours to reach the 13,000 vote mark, when Link vs. Cloud passed that mark in one hour.

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Starcraft jumped out to the early lead against four of the most powerful games in the Spring Contest, and managed to beat three of them, with the aid of the night vote.

Oh, I know that. I was referring to the 60% figure; it wasn't actually getting 60%, but considering the competition that is fine.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Meh, this is bad... I genuinely feel sorry for HM, and all of Mega Man's fans after this.
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate

Yep... Mega Man might get his ass kicked as badly as I got my ass kicked. >_<

I feel bad for HM after how confident he was... And how much crap he is going to get from this.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I was going to ask: is it just me, or are vote totals pretty low for this match? It might just be me because I haven't been around for matches at this time of day most of the time.

Vote totals are way down from last year, I don't think we've had a match that had more than 100,000 votes yet by the end. So, vote totals at this time of the day are going to be very low.
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Contest Stats: 98/104 Next Pick: Mega Man
Today's subliminal thought is:

Yea, I just hope people refrain from being douche bags to him.

Twas' a gamble and he lost. =/
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate

Yea, I just hope people refrain from being douche bags to him.

Twas' a gamble and he lost. =/

Check out his topic about Mega Man's percentage in this match...

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

MM's just broken 56%... guess this puts Snake down as being an eternal 2 seed, what with now three divisional final losses.

Doesn't look that low, unless I've done my maths wrong, they're only about 1000 (c. 4%) down on Link-Crono.
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Jon Thomson - today: Mega Man, tomorrow: Sephiroth - 96/104
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

I like your sig, ExThaNemesis
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 96/100, Next Winner: Mega Man

Heh, missed Mumei's post from about ten minutes ago. Ah well. Still, I'm not sure where to place my bets for Link-MM in terms of percentage. I'll probably go somewhere in the 58-60 range at the moment.
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Jon Thomson - today: Mega Man, tomorrow: Sephiroth - 96/104
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Thank you smitelf. =)
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate

Heh, missed Mumei's post from about ten minutes ago.

^_^;
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I Don't think Megaman will break 40% against Link. Crono beat Snake 53-47 if I'm not mistaken. This is only like 2% better. It'd suprise me if he did more than 4 or 5% better than Crono against Link and I just have a strange feeling he won't even do 3%.
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

I think somewhere around 60% seems about right. I have always thought Crono/Mega Man would be a great match, so MM pulling in much more than the 38% Crono got would be surprising, especially after this performance.
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SC2k4: 100/104 Rank: T-91

And I thought that HM was disappointed yesterday... Imagine if his second favorite character couldn't break 40% on Link. >.<

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well, Zero and Snake are putting up nearly equal performances right now. Maybe Snake did drop some, or Zero rose a bit. I'd wager that it'd be the latter though.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Meh... well there goes Mega Man's chance to stop a repeat victory.... last chance to stop Cloud or Link from winning.... SEPHIROTH. We should rally behind and support Sephy for great justice!
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate

... I'm about as likely to vote Sephiroth against Link as I am to try to wrestle my friend again.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Hey, I just noticed I won yesterday's Prophet Challenge. ^____^

I guessed 24,000 and it was 24,019. =D

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Snake gets MGS3 later this year so we'll see where that puts him in next year's contest.

Is there a list of all prophet challenge winners?

Or is this just for fun's sake?

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I just noticed what the difference was between Crono and Link and I checked what I put and I was within 19 votes.

MMXCalibur does have a list on the Prophet Challenge site.

Unfortunately, no one posts there anymore ;_;.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Mega's going down. =/

Down to 55.93% from a peak of 56.08%...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

On the bright side, Frog looks like a beast and Tidus and Shadow look terrible.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

This is making me wonder about Gdorf and Magus...They both got SFF'd to hell and back, and with Tidus dropping, maybe they aren't as strong as we thought...

I'd still pick Magus over Sonic.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

MMXCalibur does have a list on the Prophet Challenge site.

Unfortunately, no one posts there anymore ;_;.

I read the forums there. But since I haven't participated, it wouldn't really make sense for me to post there.
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Current score 91/104 :( Next match: Mega Man

You're working it backwards though.... Magus still got a healthy 35% against Link. I guess people will finally figure out as a whole that character performances can be relative as well....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Also, I think performances against Mega Man are probably where a character's TRUE popularity really stand. Nintendo and Square matches seem to draw support for the character from the perspective fanbases, especially when matched against each other (Magus/Ganondorf). A universally popular character NOT from Square or Nintendo such as Mega Man would be a better measuring stick. This can be seen from Ryu as well. Mega Man and Ryu aren't known for their company as well as Square and Nintendo characters are.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

with Tidus dropping, maybe they aren't as strong as we thought...

I'd still pick Magus over Sonic.

To quote you: YOSHI! YOSHI!

In other words, Tidus underperformed. All three have already proven to be as strong as advertised. Though I don't know why you'd still want to take Magus over Sonic when it seems that the reason for Snake's underperformance against Knuckles was the echidna increasing. Sonic did better than expected against Dante as well.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Meh... well there goes Mega Man's chance to stop a repeat victory.... last chance to stop Cloud or Link from winning.... SEPHIROTH. We should rally behind and support Sephy for great justice!

For great justi -- oh, look, a cookie...mmm...
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 96/100, Next Winner: Mega Man

That's the hard part. We don't exactly know how much SFF to adjust for since the amount per match isn't uniform. You can't tell if these SFF'd characters went up, went down, or stayed the same.

Worry not, I'll take care of it. I have a plan...
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Ideally, this cunning plan of yours will work faster than Alucard's.
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2k4 - The Summer of Sephiroth.

Hey. I was right with my picture prediction. Go me. ^-^

And yay snake! Do well against MegaMan!

But this makes Crono's thrashing look even worse... ;-;

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"Okay, it's a promise then. If you break it, I'll uphold the Mizuho tradition of making liars swallow a thousand needles!" -Sheena, Tales of Symphonia

how about we ignore SFF-adjusting and let each individiual user make up their own minds?

I know I'm making my own set of extrapolateds when all is said and done, including all THREE years.

yep, you heard me.

Will it be accessible to the public?

We'll just have to see.


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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" RPGE777:ChocoCid

"Ideally, this cunning plan of yours will work faster than Alucard's."

Every great plan unfolds in time.

Oh, and I can't believe so many people think this match is a failure on MM's part. I said before Mega Man even finished off Tidus that Snake may perform closer than expected. He has had a new game, and while sales totals were low such a thing has never stopped a character before. Any way you look at it, if Snake did increase that means Mega Man increased more.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Even with Twin Snakes bombing, Snake decreasing just looks too awkward. He may be set to do better than last year.

Speaking of which... will Zero truly rank ahead of Snake?!?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Neoblackmage: Standings spanning over multiple contests are absolutely worthless. The most recent data will almost always take precedence.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Neoblackmage: Standings spanning over multiple contests are absolutely worthless. The most recent data will almost always take precedence.

I didn't say I would COMBINE them all, I said I'd re-extrapolate them, getting my own data.

I'd then chart out changes and expected changes in the characters based on upcoming games, etc...

So I'll actually have pre-extrapolateds for sc2k5.

For the repeat characters, anyway.

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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" RPGE777:ChocoCid

What I'm going to do is extrapolate for all three years and compare, and then predict next year's extrapolated results.

I'll just have to figure out the best way to eliminate SFF matches...

Throw those data points out or something...

or, better yet, compare the low end character to another character of the same strength and substitute that % instead.
*shrug*

So replace Ganon with Magus for this year's, for instance...

*hypothetically speaking, i'd have to look at the data first*
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" RPGE777:ChocoCid

Zero ended with better then what Snake has now, and I can only see Mega doing even better, maybe hitting 57%.

This should offer HM some condolence, but...he still got OWNED! Badly. Link vs. Mega Man, he better just stay away, because I and a lot of other people will follow his posts around yelling "Pwn'd"....I like HM, but he gambled and lost, and now he faces the consequences.
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

heh, i don't think you people should do that.
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" RPGE777:ChocoCid

That may be a bit extreme but still...he needs to put pwn'd in his sig

XD
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

how about we ignore SFF-adjusting and let each individiual user make up their own minds?

I know I'm making my own set of extrapolateds when all is said and done, including all THREE years.

yep, you heard me.

Will it be accessible to the public?

We'll just have to see.

And this will help how? How does this contribute to anything?
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SC2K4 ~ 54/56 ~ 91/96
~Shdwdde

And goku, what of the gamble we took with Sephiroth beating Cloud?

I may have to put PWNED in my sig tomorrow.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
102/104/192 Next tough pick: Sephiroth

SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud

If by "Tough" you mean "wrong", then I understand.
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SC2K4 ~ 54/56 ~ 91/96
~Shdwdde

Heh, beat me to it.

Like I've been saying from the beginning, Sephiroth isn't beating Cloud won't happen. I'm STILL willing to make an account bet.

Oh wait, I have a sig bet already =P

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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
~Shdwdde

PreciousTorso:

You WILL be putting "pwned" in your sig tomorrow. Cloud's victory is certain.

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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
~Shdwdde

We'll see.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
102/104/192 Next tough pick: Sephiroth

Cloud is going to win and there will be an insane amount of 'OMFGWTFBBQCHICEKNSANDWHICHONEONESHIFTPLUSONEOMFGZZZZZZ"
topics. Expect Cloud to then beat Samus and lose to Link.
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Hylian Knight Forever
Score: 102/104 Rank: 10th

Actually, in spite of my bracket, I think that at this point, Cloud is the favorite to win.

And for the record, I have always thought of Mega Man's chances as being real UP TO TODAY - and now I think that Mega Man has no chance. And also, I have NEVER thought that Samus had a chance. If I'm still around tomorrow, I'll bet my account against Samus beating Cloud as well.
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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
~Shdwdde

Moltar's First Thoughts on: Mega Man vs. Snake

Mega has gone up 2% since I checked this morning. Go him!

Well, this match answered some questions, but brought up some new ones.

What we know now is that Mega has only increased a little since last year, overperformed on Tidus, and has no chance against Link. Snake could have dropped a little, but we know that Frog, CHIEF, Knuckles and Liquid are...ranking pretty damn high.

As for new questions. ZERO STRONGER THAN SNAKE?!?! That doesn't sound right at all. Also, is the whole Frog Triangle really that strong? Man...and we thought Hyrule was the most stacked division, but I think the stats will say differently.

MATCH PIC COMMENTS!

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b57.jpg

Very nice. It's so kick-ass. Didn't expect an SC2 Link. Pleasent surprise, and Crono looks cool as usual.

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b58.jpg

Tsk tsk tsk, will there ever be a Contest where Mega isn't trying to kill his opponents? Snake just dodged it though. Another good pic.

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b59.jpg

After the pic the two got in the finals last year, this one totally makes up for it. Looks very cool. Hopefully Sonic/Samus can continue the trend.
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Sephiroth vs. Sly - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Mega Man vs. Snake - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Snake (100/104)

Permission to post my possible bracket for SC2K5? :)
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

"Permission to post my possible bracket for SC2K5? :)"

*Puts on his best Capt. Picard voice*

Permission granted, ensign.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b59.jpg

O_O

WOW.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 96/100, Next Winner: Mega Man

Cloud.... so it comes down to this.

*Stands behind Cloud in full force to only backstab him when and if he faces Link*

I'm about 75% sure Cloud and Link will face. I'm 100% sure Link will be at least 2nd place.

So nervous 'bout tomorrow though, especially after the hype of being this high up. :/
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Hylian Knight Forever
Score: 102/104 Rank: 10th

Okay.. here's how I think SC2K5 COULD shape up.. it's only version 1 of my bracket. I didn't really take stats and other stuff into account, I'm just callin' 'em as I sees 'em. There is some personal bias here :P, I know that in some cases you can put a different character in to represent instead of what I have. I also tried my best to avoid SFF and rematches too early in the contest. No possible Knuckles/Solid Snake or Mario/Crono until the final four!

And yes.. I have Gordon Freeman as a #7 seed. I think Half-Life 2 will do just fine. But I think GFNW will apply even at a #7 seed :P

North

(1) Link
(16) Tanner

(8) Kirby
(9) Kain(FFVI)

(5) Aeris
(12) Sly Cooper

(4) Squall
(13) Laharl

(6) Ryu(SF)
(11) Jak

(3) Master Chief
(14) Bomberman

(7) Gordon Freeman
(10) Sheena Fujibayashi

(2) Solid Snake
(15) Lara Croft

South

(1) Cloud
(16) Glass Joe(Punchout!)

(8) KOS-MOS
(9) Ness

(5) Ganondorf
(12) Mewtwo

(4) Sora
(13) Kalas(Baiten Kaitos)

(6) Dante
(11) Hitomi(DOA)

(3) Auron
(14) Crash Bandicoot

(7) Knuckles
(10) Jill Valentine

(2) Mega Man
(15) CATS

(next post has other half of bracket)
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

East

(1) Sephiroth
(16) Pac-Man

(8) Luigi
(9) Alucard

(5) Vivi
(12) Conker

(4) Tidus
(13) Max Payne

(6) Terra(FFVI)
(11) Viewtiful Joe

(3) Mario
(14) Mortimer Goth(Sims games)

(7) Bowser
(10) Ryu Hayabusa

(2) Sonic
(15) Raine Sage(ToS)

West

(1) Samus Aran
(16) Jam(GGX)

(8) Liquid Snake
(9) Tails

(5) Magus
(12) Donkey Kong

(4) Frog
(13) Protoman

(6) Yoshi
(11) Chun-Li

(3) Zero
(14) Slayer(GGX)

(7) Carl Johnson
(10) Ghaleon

(2) Crono
(15) Duke Nukem


In: Carl Johnson(GTA:SA), Hitomi(DOA), Sheena Fujibayashi(ToS), Terra(FFVI), Raine Sage(ToS), Ghaleon, Slayer(GGX), Chun-Li, Kalas(Baiten Kaitos), Kain(FFIV), Aeris, Jam(GGX), Mortimer Goth(Sims), Mewtwo, Glass Joe

Out: Tommy Vercetti, Sam Fisher, Vyse, Shadow(Sonic), Kefka, Guybrush, HK-47, Luca Blight, Ryo Hazuki, Kain(Legacy of Kain), Ratchet, Scorpion, JC Danton, Earthworm Jim, Terry Bogard
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

And yes.. I do have Magus/Frog in the second round as a possible match. I couldn't always avoid having an SFF encounter.. but.. well, let Magus and Frog go at it :)
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I would die to see the best of the best get mixed up. Samus vs Crono Seph vs Sonic Cloud vs Mega Man Link vs Snake. *notices how mario isn't #2* Damn straight! Doesn't deserve it after this year.
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Hylian Knight Forever
Score: 102/104 Rank: 10th

Why you would take out Shadow is, to be honest, a bit baffling.
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me.

Why you would take out Shadow is, to be honest, a bit baffling.

Yea.. I didn't want to take him out either. Except for the Mario games(which I might rectify in version 2 bracket), I also tried to have at most three characters from a game in the contest, which is why I ended up leaving out Vincent from FFVII
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I might seem harsh, so please don't take anything personally.

(1) Link
(16) Tanner
WE DON'T NEED TANNER
(8) Kirby
(9) Kain(FFVI)
Easy win for Kirby + SFF next round
(5) Aeris
(12) Sly Cooper
We don't need Sly
(4) Squall
(13) Laharl
I don't like SFF in Aeris/Squall
(6) Ryu(SF)
(11) Jak

(3) Master Chief
(14) Bomberman
Good 3/6 match
(7) Gordon Freeman
(10) Sheena Fujibayashi
Do you really want the universe to implode? Sheena doesn't deserve to be in, much less as a 10.
(2) Solid Snake
(15) Lara Croft
Snake/MC would be interesting

(1) Cloud
(16) Glass Joe(Punchout!)

(8) KOS-MOS
(9) Ness
Good match
(5) Ganondorf
(12) Mewtwo

(4) Sora
(13) Kalas(Baiten Kaitos)
Heh. I like Gdorf/Sora
(6) Dante
(11) Hitomi(DOA)

(3) Auron
(14) Crash Bandicoot
Auron's out of Dante's league
(7) Knuckles
(10) Jill Valentine
Sub Leon in for Jill
(2) Mega Man
(15) CATS
Giving Mega Man Cloud do deal with?

(1) Sephiroth
(16) Pac-Man

(8) Luigi
(9) Alucard
Alucard wins without trouble
(5) Vivi
(12) Conker

(4) Tidus
(13) Max Payne
Vivi/Tidus = SFF = bad. Well, not as bad as normal, but bad
(6) Terra(FFVI)
(11) Viewtiful Joe
Terra is seeded way to high
(3) Mario
(14) Mortimer Goth(Sims games)
I like Sonic/Mario, but the seeds should be reversed
(7) Bowser
(10) Ryu Hayabusa
Nevermind. But Bowser wins this too easily
(2) Sonic
(15) Raine Sage(ToS)
Raine shouldn't be here



(1) Samus Aran
(16) Jam(GGX)

(8) Liquid Snake
(9) Tails
Liquid wins without trouble
(5) Magus
(12) Donkey Kong

(4) Frog
(13) Protoman
SFF = bad
(6) Yoshi
(11) Chun-Li

(3) Zero
(14) Slayer(GGX)
Give Zero a shot at Snake or Sonic
(7) Carl Johnson
(10) Ghaleon

(2) Crono
(15) Duke Nukem
Crono/Samus would be a good match.
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Off-topic:

You guys wanna see something funny? Check the FAQ page for Ultima: Exodus on the NES.

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Official World Record Holder: Mega Man X (100%), Solstice, Super Mario World

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Midgar Division: Elite 8 - Match 59 – (1)Cloud vs. (2)Sephiroth

Moltar’s Analysis

Cloud - You see them in the sky!

Round 1 – vs. Duke (Cloud: 80.19% - Duke: 19.81%)
Round 2 – vs. Vyse (Cloud: 81.41% - Vyse: 18.59%)
Round 3 – vs. Squall (Cloud: 76.21% - Squall: 23.79%)

Ouch…Squall got SFF’d into the ground. That Cloud is a beast.

Sephiroth - He can walk through fire!

Round 1 – vs. Sly Cooper (Sephiroth: 86.37% - Sly: 13.63%)
Round 2 – vs. Vivi (Vivi: 29.75% – Sephiroth: 70.25%)
Round 3 – vs. Auron (Auron: 32.20% - Sephiroth: 67.70%)

Sephiroth fails to SFF up another Final Fantasy character…tsk tsk tsk…not good at all.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1367

Now, I could just post that poll and end my analysis right there, but that’s not what my job is. I feel that my job is to look into this match closely, or “analyze” it. Then, based of data I have collected, I am supposed to correctly predict the outcome of these matches for you, the reader. I am supposed to predict that something will happen, and why it will. If what you think will happen is different from what I think, then I need to try and persuade you to change what you think to what I think. Like now, I am predicting Cloud will win this match. Why did I predict that? Well, for one thing, Cloud beat Sephiroth in the finals last year, so the only ways Seph could win is if he increased in strength or Cloud decreased. Cloud seems to be looking fine this year, getting around what he was supposed to on Duke and Vyse, and much higher on Squall. Sephy, on the other hand, did well against Sly, and failed to SFF Vivi and Auron. Now if he couldn’t get SFF on them, how will he get it on Cloud? Could Cloud get SFF on Seph? I don’t know. It didn’t happen last year, but Mario also beat Crono last year. Things can change.

So I’m sorry to all you Seph fanboys/fangirls who thought he would win because he was stronger, anti-champion votes, he was cooler, whatever. Cloud is winning that match, and I am 99.9% confident in that.

Darn, I wanted to make this longer, but there really is nothing else to say. =/

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Cloud will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Cloud 53% - Seph 47%



Ulti's Analysis

Another day, another rematch.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1367

Cloud has been performing at his 2003 level, while Sephiroth has proven in his matches with Vivi and Auron that he can't get Square SFF from anyone. Sephiroth is done for.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Cloud/Cloud with 52.01%


Cena’s Analysis

And boom! Here comes another kick in the ass, all set up by Sea Juicy and given to FF fanboys to make them believe that what happened last year in the finals won't happen again. Good luck with that, guys. Cloud Strife has always been the more popular character, always liked more, and always will be. Even if they were both in Kingdom Hearts, Cloud's appareance was more memorable, and he's going to be in the GBA version as well. Where's Sephiroth? Off combing his hair. I don't care how cool Sephiroth is, he just can't win. He has way too much against him. No GBA KH game, being the villain taking on the hero, crappy (for him) performances against both Vivi and Auron, who were supposed to be SFF'd to death. Cloud, on the other hand, has utterly destroyed everybody in his path to a repeat championship. Squall and Vyse never stood a chance, and the same will be said for Sephiroth. Even if the SFF turns out to be like Mega Man and Zero, Cloud will take it. This match won't even be any good.

Cena’s Vote: Cloud Strife

Cena’s Prediction: Cloud Strife with 57%

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Sephiroth vs. Sly - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Mega Man vs. Snake - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Snake (100/104)

Despite SFF, if you use the Bowser and Yoshi values from the Hyrule Division this year, the results only favor about 1.5% to Yoshi in relation to last year's match.

</pointless fact>
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros

"Updates Left: 43
Mega Man's % last update: 59.66%

"Updates Left: 42
Mega Man's % last update: 57.11%

Mega Man's % per update is getting better, but still nowhere near Link's consistent 64 - 68% numbers...



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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Got bored or somehting Lucid?
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

I might seem harsh, so please don't take anything personally.

Not at all :), I'll comment on a few of your comments though :P

(1) Link
(16) Tanner
WE DON'T NEED TANNER

I imagine Tanner'll be remembered and nominated for 2005 anyway. Let's see if Link can out do Snake :P Tanner'll won't be seen ever again in 2006 or beyond, though.

(8) Kirby
(9) Kain(FFVI)
Easy win for Kirby + SFF next round

I don't think it'll be that easy.. but you're right about SFF.

I don't like SFF in Aeris/Squall

I could fiddle with the 4-6 seeds a bit.. SFF in the 4 and 5 sections are hard to avoid with the way I have 'em set up.

(7) Gordon Freeman
(10) Sheena Fujibayashi
Do you really want the universe to implode? Sheena doesn't deserve to be in, much less as a 10.

Personal bias :) But I do think one ToS character should be in.. possibly at #10. Likely suspects in the end would be Lloyd and Kratos.

Sub Leon in for Jill

With RE4 coming.. can do.

Giving Mega Man Cloud do deal with?

Sure :) never have had that battle before.

(3) Mario
(14) Mortimer Goth(Sims games)
I like Sonic/Mario, but the seeds should be reversed
(7) Bowser
(10) Ryu Hayabusa
Nevermind. But Bowser wins this too easily
(2) Sonic
(15) Raine Sage(ToS)
Raine shouldn't be here

I'll comment on your comments for this section. I want to see Sonic/Mario, too! I don't think Mario's strong enough to be a top 2 seed anymore, however. Bowser/Sonic's set up so Sonic can win and we won't get to see SFF in round 3(which is when you can say, for the most part, SFF matches can begin.). I'd probably want to move Bowser over to another section, though. I don't want to see Raine Sage get beat, but again, personal bias and I like to see her in the contest somehow. :P

(5) Magus
(12) Donkey Kong

(4) Frog
(13) Protoman
SFF = bad

Agreed, but Magus/Frog is like Sonic/Mario. I bet there's a lot of CT fans that want to see this match happen due to the rivalry they had. Only SFF match I'd want to see really in the first two rounds.

Like I said, it's version 1 of my bracket.. and is subject to change over the next few months as new games come out. Thanks for the comments, and I hope to hear more from others :P
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Got bored or somehting Lucid?

Kind of.

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I am Lucid Faia's alternate account.
Official World Record Holder: Mega Man X (100%), Solstice, Super Mario World

Off-topic:

You guys wanna see something funny? Check the FAQ page for Ultima: Exodus on the NES

Nice.. that game was a pain in the butt, but fun. :P
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I noticed a mistake. ;_;

00:00 | Mega Man | 00119 | +0119 | 61.34% | Snake | 00075 | +0075 | 38.66% | Lead of 0044 | (Up 44)
00:15 | Mega Man | 00594 | +0475 | 55.20% | Snake | 00482 | +0407 | 44.80% | Lead of 0112 | (Up 68)
00:30 | Mega Man | 00990 | +0396 | 54.85% | Snake | 00815 | +0333 | 45.15% | Lead of 0175 | (Up 63)
00:45 | Mega Man | 01332 | +0342 | 55.11% | Snake | 01085 | +0270 | 44.89% | Lead of 0247 | (Up 72)
01:00 | Mega Man | 01614 | +0282 | 54.51% | Snake | 01347 | +0262 | 45.49% | Lead of 0267 | (Up 20)
01:15 | Mega Man | 01889 | +0275 | 53.57% | Snake | 01637 | +0290 | 46.43% | Lead of 0252 | (Down 15)
01:30 | Mega Man | 02142 | +0253 | 53.43% | Snake | 01867 | +0230 | 46.57% | Lead of 0275 | (Up 23)
01:45 | Mega Man | 02355 | +0213 | 53.11% | Snake | 02079 | +0212 | 46.89% | Lead of 0276 | (Up 1)
02:00 | Mega Man | 02568 | +0213 | 53.11% | Snake | 02267 | +0188 | 46.89% | Lead of 0301 | (Up 25)
02:15 | Mega Man | 02772 | +0204 | 53.15% | Snake | 02443 | +0176 | 46.85% | Lead of 0329 | (Up 28)
02:30 | Mega Man | 02972 | +0200 | 52.99% | Snake | 02637 | +0194 | 47.01% | Lead of 0335 | (Up 6)
02:45 | Mega Man | 03187 | +0215 | 52.79% | Snake | 02850 | +0213 | 47.21% | Lead of 0337 | (Up 2)
03:00 | Mega Man | 03402 | +0215 | 52.84% | Snake | 03036 | +0186 | 47.16% | Lead of 0366 | (Up 29)
03:15 | Mega Man | 03664 | +0262 | 52.89% | Snake | 03263 | +0227 | 47.11% | Lead of 0401 | (Up 35)
03:30 | Mega Man | 03963 | +0299 | 52.86% | Snake | 03534 | +0271 | 47.14% | Lead of 0429 | (Up 28)
03:45 | Mega Man | 04335 | +0372 | 53.05% | Snake | 03837 | +0303 | 46.95% | Lead of 0498 | (Up 69)
04:00 | Mega Man | 04686 | +0351 | 53.17% | Snake | 04128 | +0291 | 46.83% | Lead of 0558 | (Up 60)
04:15 | Mega Man | 05091 | +0405 | 53.38% | Snake | 04447 | +0319 | 46.62% | Lead of 0644 | (Up 86)
04:30 | Mega Man | 05555 | +0464 | 53.70% | Snake | 04790 | +0343 | 46.30% | Lead of 0765 | (Up 121)
04:45 | Mega Man | 06025 | +0470 | 54.08% | Snake | 05115 | +0325 | 45.92% | Lead of 0910 | (Up 145)
05:00 | Mega Man | 06512 | +0487 | 54.44% | Snake | 05450 | +0335 | 45.56% | Lead of 1062 | (Up 152)
05:15 | Mega Man | 06994 | +0482 | 54.60% | Snake | 05816 | +0366 | 45.40% | Lead of 1178 | (Up 116)
05:30 | Mega Man | 07502 | +0508 | 54.96% | Snake | 06148 | +0332 | 45.04% | Lead of 1354 | (Up 176)
05:45 | Mega Man | 07990 | +0488 | 55.03% | Snake | 06529 | +0381 | 44.97% | Lead of 1461 | (Up 107)
06:00 | Mega Man | 08476 | +0486 | 55.09% | Snake | 06909 | +0380 | 44.91% | Lead of 1567 | (Up 106)
06:15 | Mega Man | 08970 | +0494 | 55.16% | Snake | 07292 | +0383 | 44.84% | Lead of 1678 | (Up 111)
06:30 | Mega Man | 09495 | +0525 | 55.18% | Snake | 07713 | +0421 | 44.82% | Lead of 1782 | (Up 104)
06:45 | Mega Man | 10062 | +0567 | 55.32% | Snake | 08126 | +0413 | 44.68% | Lead of 1936 | (Up 154)
07:00 | Mega Man | 10664 | +0602 | 55.45% | Snake | 08569 | +0443 | 44.55% | Lead of 2095 | (Up 159)
07:15 | Mega Man | 11263 | +0599 | 55.60% | Snake | 08994 | +0425 | 44.40% | Lead of 2269 | (Up 174)
07:30 | Mega Man | 11867 | +0604 | 55.77% | Snake | 09411 | +0417 | 44.23% | Lead of 2456 | (Up 187)
07:45 | Mega Man | 12474 | +0607 | 55.88% | Snake | 09847 | +0436 | 44.12% | Lead of 2627 | (Up 171)
08:00 | Mega Man | 13070 | +0596 | 55.97% | Snake | 10282 | +0435 | 44.03% | Lead of 2788 | (Up 161)

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

08:15 | Mega Man | 13727 | +0657 | 56.04% | Snake | 10767 | +0485 | 43.96% | Lead of 2960 | (Up 172)
08:30 | Mega Man | 14318 | +0591 | 56.07% | Snake | 11220 | +0453 | 43.93% | Lead of 3098 | (Up 138)
08:45 | Mega Man | 14880 | +0562 | 56.00% | Snake | 11692 | +0472 | 44.00% | Lead of 3188 | (Up 90)
09:00 | Mega Man | 15422 | +0542 | 55.92% | Snake | 12157 | +0465 | 44.08% | Lead of 3265 | (Up 77)
09:15 | Mega Man | 15982 | +0560 | 55.90% | Snake | 12608 | +0451 | 44.10% | Lead of 3374 | (Up 109)
09:30 | Mega Man | 16542 | +0560 | 55.86% | Snake | 13070 | +0462 | 44.14% | Lead of 3472 | (Up 98)
09:45 | Mega Man | 17109 | +0567 | 55.88% | Snake | 13509 | +0439 | 44.12% | Lead of 3600 | (Up 128)
10:00 | Mega Man | 17657 | +0548 | 55.90% | Snake | 13930 | +0421 | 44.10% | Lead of 3727 | (Up 127)
10:15 | Mega Man | 18190 | +0533 | 55.91% | Snake | 14345 | +0415 | 44.09% | Lead of 3845 | (Up 118)
10:30 | Mega Man | 18723 | +0533 | 55.95% | Snake | 14743 | +0398 | 44.05% | Lead of 3980 | (Up 135)
10:45 | Mega Man | 19254 | +0531 | 55.97% | Snake | 15148 | +0405 | 44.03% | Lead of 4106 | (Up 126)
11:00 | Mega Man | 19753 | +0499 | 55.91% | Snake | 15577 | +0429 | 44.09% | Lead of 4176 | (Up 70)
11:15 | Mega Man | 20305 | +0552 | 55.96% | Snake | 15983 | +0406 | 44.04% | Lead of 4322 | (Up 146)
11:30 | Mega Man | 20873 | +0568 | 55.95% | Snake | 16434 | +0451 | 44.05% | Lead of 4439 | (Up 117)
11:45 | Mega Man | 21503 | +0630 | 55.98% | Snake | 16909 | +0475 | 44.02% | Lead of 4594 | (Up 155)
12:00 | Mega Man | 22236 | +0733 | 55.99% | Snake | 17476 | +0567 | 44.01% | Lead of 4760 | (Up 166)
12:15 | Mega Man | 23034 | +0798 | 56.07% | Snake | 18044 | +0568 | 43.93% | Lead of 4990 | (Up 230)
12:30 | Mega Man | 23857 | +0823 | 56.14% | Snake | 18637 | +0593 | 43.86% | Lead of 5220 | (Up 230)
12:45 | Mega Man | 24693 | +0836 | 56.21% | Snake | 19233 | +0596 | 43.79% | Lead of 5460 | (Up 240)
13:00 | Mega Man | 25510 | +0817 | 56.20% | Snake | 19884 | +0651 | 43.80% | Lead of 5626 | (Up 166)
13:15 | Mega Man | 26495 | +0985 | 56.32% | Snake | 20550 | +0666 | 43.68% | Lead of 5945 | (Up 319)
13:30 | Mega Man | 27330 | +0835 | 56.34% | Snake | 21177 | +0627 | 43.66% | Lead of 6153 | (Up 208)

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well, things look more a little bleak for the Blue Bomber but I still have confidence--although one that has been shattered for the most part--in Mega Man beating Link. It's small, but it's there and after sticking with it this long there's no way I'm going to give up before the match even starts. Who would do such a thing like that?

He's doing about 56.35% right now and should end with over 57% of the vote. That would mean he'd do about 4% better than what he did against Solid Snake last year, and that's by no means anything to look down upon. Yes, I was wrong about the 66% but I'm not wrong about Link until proven so... ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

05:15 | Mega Man | 06694 | +0182 | 53.51% | Snake | 05816 | +0366 | 46.49% | Lead of 0878 | (Down 184)
05:30 | Mega Man | 07502 | +0808 | 54.96% | Snake | 06148 | +0332 | 45.04% | Lead of 1354 | (Up 476)

WTF? What happened in these updates?

Well, things look more a little bleak for the Blue Bomber but I still have confidence--although one that has been shattered for the most part--in Mega Man beating Link. It's small, but it's there and after sticking with it this long there's no way I'm going to give up before the match even starts. Who would do such a thing like that?

He's doing about 56.35% right now and should end with over 57% of the vote. That would mean he'd do about 4% better than what he did against Solid Snake last year, and that's by no means anything to look down upon. Yes, I was wrong about the 66% but I'm not wrong about Link until proven so... ;)

And Chichiri complains about Smurf...

WTF? What happened in these updates?

A mistake on my part. I corrected it.

>_<
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

"And Chichiri complains about Smurf..."

Yeah, but HM also never said that MM was a sure thing to beat Link. He's very confident, but didn't say that Link needs to make his time, and he didn't use any miscalculated stats to say Mega Man was a guarenteed winner.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Heh. I'm now one of the top ten most prolific image contributors on GameFAQs, just because I was bored and looking for something to keep me busy for a few hours last night. :)

Now, I'm one of the biggest Mega Man fans you'll find, but when Link beats Crono by more than Mega Man beat Solid Snake, I can't really say Mega Man has a chance at all anymore.

As a matter of fact, I think Link is taking this tournament. If Link faces Samus, he'll SFF her and win easily. If he faces Cloud, we're in for a hell of a match, but I think Link is stronger this year.

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HM, I don't know how you can be confident at all. I mean, look at Link's percentages per update and Mega Man's percentages per update during the same time period (in the last 45 minutes).

"Updates Left: 43
Mega Man's % last update: 59.66%

"Updates Left: 42
Mega Man's % last update: 57.11%

"Updates Left: 41
Mega Man's % last update: 56.60%

And then Link's:

"Updates Left: 43
Link's % last update: 66.96%

"Updates Left: 42
Link's % last update: 63.55%

"Updates Left: 41
Link's % last update: 64.91%

And Link did that to Crono, who won the day vote over Mario.

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I think people fail to read the part where I said "--although one that has been shattered for the most part--".
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

hm never said MM was a sure thing? perhaps not in so many words, but does smurf even post that much to be attacked when he's not even here?

as for heroic, *offers a cookie*, but sadly, this doesn't bode well for Mega


GO SAMUS!!

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hm never said MM was a sure thing?

No. I've never stated Link had no chance or Mega Man was guaranteed a win. Some people might have seen it as such, but I always knew Link could easily take it himself.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

"hm never said MM was a sure thing? perhaps not in so many words, but does smurf even post that much to be attacked when he's not even here?"

Smurf said in no uncertain terms that Link was a sure thing to win it all based on Cloud's performance against Milkem. At the time we of course had so little to work with that calling the winner was basically impossible. He also likes to claim that the math process he uses its better at predicting than what we use on the rare occasion that it actually does somehting right. That's somehting we haven't had to hear in a long time, wonder why...
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

I think people fail to read the part where I said "--although one that has been shattered for the most part--"

I know, I read that. But it seemed like you still thought he has a small chance. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks really bleak to me.
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well, of course I think he has a smaller chance of beating Link. Has it lost yet? Nope. Does that mean the chance is still out there? Of course. I'm just not nearly as confident as I was before, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give up three days before the match. That'd be stupid to me.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

... I kind of think it would be more realistic than stupid.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Hooray for HM! Hope springs eternal! And of course, for all we know, Mega's just saving his strength for Link or something. The Link fans will rest easy, and then BAM! Metal Blade to the face.

...well, it could happen...
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I will say that if Mega Man does lose I'll be rooting for Cloud Strife to go on and repeat.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Hey, earlier in one of these topics (maybe this one), the extrapolated rankings (not adjusted) in the Hyrule Division were posted twice, and they differed from each other. Could anybody post the correct ones?
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I'm rooting for Sephiroth myself.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

I will say that if Mega Man does lose I'll be rooting for Cloud Strife to go on and repeat.

Why do that when it would look better for Mega Man to lose to the champion of the contest? Plus, come on...I like Cloud, but this is Link we're talkin' about. =)
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ah, well then I stand corrected, sorry hm : )
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... I kind of think it would be more realistic than stupid.

Screw that. Giving up on anything is stupid.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Who else thinks that Cloud/Seph pic is the best of the contest?

Oh, and Sephiroth is gonna win.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
102/104/192 Next tough pick: Sephiroth

Samus! Samus!

Oh, and if anyone wants to know, WDF ~= 4.78%.
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Hey, earlier in one of these topics (maybe this one), the extrapolated rankings (not adjusted) in the Hyrule Division were posted twice, and they differed from each other. Could anybody post the correct ones?

Link 50.00%
Crono 37.18%
Mario 34.77%
Magus 22.47%
Bowser 20.41%
Yoshi 18.26%
Luigi 16.62%
Conker 16.37%
CATS 12.17%
Ganondorf 12.10%
JC Denton 11.45%
Pac-Man 10.73%
Alucard 10.37%
Ryo Hazuki 8.62%
Luca Blight 8.52%
Guybrush Threepwood 6.94%
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I would not say cloud/seph is the best pic, because it just looks small to me, its nice and everthing, but granted, it is just taken out of a cinema scene, no?
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Screw that. Giving up on anything is stupid.

I take it you're not a pessimist like me. XD
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Sephiroth win? He'd have to beat Cloud to do that and that obviously can't happen. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

I take it you're not a pessimist like me. XD

Of course not. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Magus STILL manages to clinch fourth in that division despite losing 17 points worth of SFF to Crono. Wow.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Hey, if you can be confident in Mega Man winning, then I can be confident in Sephiroth winning--which has a slightly higher chance of happening.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
102/104/192 Next tough pick: Sephiroth

Link with 65.23% on Mario? Jesus...
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

The race to 57% should be a good one HM. As should tomorrow's match. My bracket is done, but I still wouldn't mind seeing myself in the top 50. Go Cloud!
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Hey, that's not three points off what happened two years ago. Although it does seem a little low... maybe he's going to rank below Zero too.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Heh. Go Magus.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Everytime HM says Cloud will def. win, I look at my bracket and pray to God he's right.
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Score: 102/104 Rank: 10th

Magus secures 4th place in the division because the 3 ahead of him are the only ones who didn't get negatively affected by SFF either directly or indirectly.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Those 3 and CATS
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

It's not like anyone in that division, aside from those three, were stronger than Magus anyway.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Well, I forgot about Conker, CATS, and JC Denton, but they're nothing more than fodder.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

It's not like anyone in that division, aside from those three, were stronger than Magus anyway.

Well, Ganondorf comes pretty close, though he sure doesn't look it this year. >>

There, there Ganny, everyone knows that you're beating from Link wasn't your fault.

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Thanks HM.
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"Updates Left: 40
Mega Man's % last update: 58.58%

"Updates Left: 39
Mega Man's % last update: 56.72%

"Updates Left: 38
Mega Man's % last update: 57.14%

Could be difficult getting to 57%...


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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well, Ganondorf comes pretty close, though he sure doesn't look it this year. >>

Pretty close, but doesn't beat Magus out. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Could be difficult getting to 57%...

He's got 0.52% more to gather to get to that 57%, I think he'll be able to hit it soon enough.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

(9) Kain(FFVI)

FFIV you mean? =_=
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~Shdwdde

Ganondorf....you will get your revenge...

CJay........*growles*
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Mega Man vs. Snake - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Snake (100/104)

Snake will get that percentage back with the night vote. He and Zero will be nearly dead even in the standings this year.
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Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Snake/Zero as a 3/6 next year! For great justice!
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He's got 0.52% more to gather to get to that 57%, I think he'll be able to hit it soon enough.

Maybe. But I think he needs to start taking in a bit more than he is...

Ganondorf....you will get your revenge...

CJay........*growles*

*gives MM a Ganondorf plushy*

^_^
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Solid Snake would take it next year, thanks to MGS3.
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Snake will get that percentage back with the night vote

Depending on where Mega Man is by the time he gets a weakened night vote. He certainly won't be gaining the full percent he'll need in order to match Zero.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Actually, I've been more thinking about a Magus/Snake match. Magus in the Elite 8 would rock. Seriously.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Snake/Zero as a 3/6 next year!

I'd certainly take Zero. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Magus needs to get his hands (or scythe, thanks MWIS) on Sonic. 2/3 match right there.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Magus against Sonic/Snake would be a great match to see.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

HM, I'm pretty sure you've done the math already or are plannin' to soon...but what would be the full range Mega Man could get on Link 2k4 (based off of Crono's performance) if we went by Tidus's and Solid Snake's performance on Mega Man this year? For the full range, let's say Solid makes the match 56-44.
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I think I've settled on my 2 vs. 3 matches for now. Mario/Sonic, Crono/Ganondorf(Bowser?), Samus/Zero and Snake/Magus. How would that be?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Screw that. Giving up on anything is stupid.

A dedicated man. I like that ;)

Who else thinks that Cloud/Seph pic is the best of the contest?

It would be if it weren't so small. Instead, Link/Crono's has been better.
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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
~Shdwdde

I don't know why everyone's so keen on seeing Mario vs Sonic, I mean, how many people here would actually side with Sonic?

Crono/Ganon/Bowser - well, that's not difficult to pick, no? If Crono can beat Mario, then Bowser/Ganon shouldn't be too tough

Samus/Zero - I think Samus would win, but then again, Zero definitely displayed serious power

snake/magus - now that's great, because frog/snake was pretty close, perhaps magus would be better.
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HM is going to love this...

"Updates Left: 37
Mega Man's % last update: 61.02%

His best update of the entire match, aside from the first 00:00 update, which shouldn't really count. =)

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I like them slow. But please, for the love of everything holy, make Frog a 6 then with Magus.
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I think 2004 Mega Man gets 40.49% on 2004 Link this year. Not sure if that's precisely right, but it just breaks 40%...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Mega Man's increasing pretty fast at the moment. He only needs 0.4% to reach 57%. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

It would be if it weren't so small. Instead, Link/Crono's has been better.

Well, except that it gives clear advantage to Link.

At least in Cloud vs. Sephy, Sephy's advantage isn't as pronounced.

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I know... When I said something about moving faster he started. XD
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Magus needs to get his hands (or scythe, thanks MWIS) on Sonic. 2/3 match right there.

Magus against Sonic/Snake would be a great match to see.

Imagine a bracket division like this next year...

(1) Solid Snake
(2) Sonic
(3) Master Chief
(4) Zero
(6) Magus

...complete chaos, and it wouldn't really matter who you put in the other seeds (unless you wanted to completely overload one division). Who would you guys pick to come out of this division alone if this occured next year?


I'm split between MC and Solid, myself, but it would be anybody's game.
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oh, and to comment on the snake pics from last round, does anyone really think that they impacted anything at all? Granted they were horrible, but, the name is there, I don't think the casual voter would miss the name, and that's what's really more important.
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If you include MGS3, I think Snake takes it.

But if Halo 2 turns out to be another major hit, MC might take it.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I don't think it really affected things all that much. The name is clearly there and it shouldn't have done anything to sway the percentages that much. Plus, anything that makes Frog look better is awesome. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

MGS3 and Halo 2 both would be included, along with anything else that comes out by next year.
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heh, damn seven votes...
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Well, except that it gives clear advantage to Link.

Come now. DBZ people ALWAYS look constipated, no matter how little they're trying. Crono hasn't even gon Supar Saiyan yet.

At least in Cloud vs. Sephy, Sephy's advantage isn't as pronounced.

Sephiroth's advantage isn't pronounced because oh yeah, Cloud has it

WHOAMG WHOAMG PWNT!

XD
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~Shdwdde

oh, and to comment on the snake pics from last round, does anyone really think that they impacted anything at all? Granted they were horrible, but, the name is there, I don't think the casual voter would miss the name, and that's what's really more important.

Well, when they see a pic they can't recognize, do you think they'll bother looking at the names?

That's what I do when I'm browsing a site, I browse through the pictures first.

If there's an interesting pic somewhere, then I'll read the texts around it (and will realize it if there's a poll).

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Plus, come on...I like Cloud, but this is Link we're talkin' about. =)

True, but it is Cloud afterall. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Who would be the best third MGS character to include in a bracket?
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ZSB [aX]

...ahem, I don't know if ya catch the magnitude of this, HM, so I'm gonna help ya out. It's LLIINNKK!!

Help? Hope so, heh.
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Sephiroth's advantage isn't pronounced because oh yeah, Cloud has it

You got it wrong, I'm talking about the pic, not the stats.
Stat wise of course Cloud has the advantage, the difference in their performance proved it.

In sword fights, especially with large ones, the one attacking from the higher ground has the advantage.
That's why in that pic I consider Sephy to have the advantage.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I dunno. Two is enough though. I know I'm putting a second CV guy instead.
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Raiden should be the only other MGS character to have any business in this contest.
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(1) Solid Snake
(2) Sonic
(3) Master Chief
(4) Zero
(6) Magus

Magus in the Final Four is sin in itself. A division STACKED with third tier charcters. Though, it would be very fun I admit.

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~Shdwdde

Well, when they see a pic they can't recognize, do you think they'll bother looking at the names?

Consider that you click on a little name that says "Solid Snake", I'd say yes.

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~Shdwdde

You got it wrong, I'm talking about the pic, not the stats.
Stat wise of course Cloud has the advantage, the difference in their performance proved it.

In sword fights, especially with large ones, the one attacking from the higher ground has the advantage.
That's why in that pic I consider Sephy to have the advantage.

Of course I'm talking pics. And in anime-style choreographed sword fights, Whenever the guy on top strikes down, the guy on the bottom holds him off, chucks him to the side, and wins.

Plus Cloud just looks cooler. >_>
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Consider that you click on a little name that says "Solid Snake", I'd say yes.

You're assuming they bother voting, in which case yes they'll know who they're voting for.

But if I'm not a GF regular, I'll see a horrible pic and probably won't even notice that there's a poll going on.

Remember, you need to scroll down to see the voting options.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Of course I'm talking pics. And in anime-style choreographed sword fights, Whenever the guy on top strikes down, the guy on the bottom holds him off, chucks him to the side, and wins.

Meh, I was talking real life.

But I get your point, in the anime world the opposite is usually true.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Magus in the Final Four is sin in itself.

What? Magus in the final four would rock. He and Zero are the two coolest people in that division.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Mega Man only needs 0.3% in order to break 57% now...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Zero over Snake... looks like it's going to happen! I wonder where Magus and Ganondorf will be after SFF adjustments, too. (These are going to be hella hard to do if we get evidence Link improved significantly enough.)
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Remember, you need to scroll down to see the voting options.

I know. That's the basis of the "WHOAMG SITE LAYOUT = INSTANT LESS VOTES!" theory.

And if less voters scrolled down for Frog vs Snake, then how come it had an above-average vote turnout?

But I get your point, in the anime world the opposite is usually true.

Indeed; GameFAQs is dominated by anime/RPG freaks (myself included). Though, I don't think that a picture-voter even votes based on who's winning in the pic; he votes for the one who looks cooler, i.e. Cloud. =P

What? Magus in the final four would rock. He and Zero are the two coolest people in that division.

But it just seems so... wrong.
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~Shdwdde

Doesn't seem wrong to me.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

What? Magus in the final four would rock. He and Zero are the two coolest people in that division.

Sucks that I feel the exact opposite. I've got nothing against either, but those are the only two of the five I named that I feel indifferent about.
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Then Crono would've done better yesterday if people voted based on who's winning in the picture. He might have been straining, but Link missed his slice and Crono was going in for the kill.
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Sucks that I feel the exact opposite. I've got nothing against either, but those are the only two of the five I named that I feel indifferent about.

Well, you're picking Samus for your winner next year without even consulting the stats. So yeah, you're in the minority.

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Wow. Snake is gonna be lower than Zero. Go Zero!

And I just realized that Magus only did 2.25% worse against Link than Crono did. That SFF really, truly sucks a lot.
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^_~

God I hate Cloud....crushing Vyse and Squall, and soon my bracket, has caused him to plummet to my worst characters list.

I hope he loses, but I know he probably won't. I have Cloud by almost 9000 in the prophet challenge...but I still have hope.
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

God I hate Cloud.

Really? I think Cloud rocks. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

...You're gonna hate Cloud even more for winning a contest? That's weird. He took out two of my favorite characters, and you don't see me getting bitter about it.
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Please explain to me why Cloud rocks...

*spoilers*


I see him as a failure and a weakling who just happened to be experimented on with Jenova cells. After that he got strong. Without the experimentation he is a pathetic failure in life...Zack is the real reason people vote Cloud. People wouldn't vote for him nearly as much if he was getting his ass kicked and saying "mosey" the whole game...
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FF7>>>>me.

Well, you're picking Samus for your winner next year without even consulting the stats. So yeah, you're in the minority.

1) That doesn't refer to my taste in characters.
2) Samus does look to be a very promising pick next year regardless.
3) It's nearly a whole year away; nothing is set in stone yet.
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Zack is the real reason people vote Cloud.

No, he's not. I started to like Cloud even more after I found out the truth about his past.
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Why Leonhart? Please explain to me why. I have a hard time understanding why people love Cloud other than "OMG FF7 guy!"
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

*SPOILERS*





I see him as a failure and a weakling who just happened to be experimented on with Jenova cells.

So because he fails to get into SOLDIER he should be deemed a failure? There's a reason why everyone in the world cannot just join up for SOLDIER. The two biggest ones happened to be Sephiroth and Zack. There's no shame in not making it.

After that he got strong.

Of course, by the end of the game Cloud was far above the level of SOLDIER. Taking out Sephiroth, in all his forms, was enough for him to deem himself worthy of being put on that kind of strength level. He just couldn't handle the Mako Treatment, but the fact he got pumped with that and Jenova Cells and still, eventually, come away from it says enough about his strength. His mental confusion aside.

Without the experimentation he is a pathetic failure in life...

I wouldn't dare call that experimentation something of benefit. You saw what happened to him after he went through all that mess, the only possible plus that came from it would be that gained strength. Again though, it's the fact that he came out of the experiment alive and kicking that proved he wasn't a "failure" or "weakling".

Zack is the real reason people vote Cloud. People wouldn't vote for him nearly as much if he was getting his ass kicked and saying "mosey" the whole game...

Zack and Cloud weren't exactly all that much alike. In some ways they were, in others they weren't. I wouldn't go out and say that Cloud is an image of Zack in personality.

Oh and let's mosey!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

I see him as a failure and a weakling who just happened to be experimented on with Jenova cells. After that he got strong. Without the experimentation he is a pathetic failure in life...Zack is the real reason people vote Cloud. People wouldn't vote for him nearly as much if he was getting his ass kicked and saying "mosey" the whole game...

Zack get his ass handed over to him by Sephy.

Cloud powered-up and DEFEATED Sephy.

The only reason Cloud was weak and unstable throughout the game is because he lost his own memory and thought that he was Zack.

Once he regained his former self, he pwned Sephy AGAIN.

If you're talking about his failure to join SOLDIER, the game never mentioned why.
Perhaps he's actually strong enough, but his superiors simply doesn't like him, who knows?

Someone who can pwn Sephy with a sword through his body is certainly NOT a failure.

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Posting some more of the updates...

13:45 | Mega Man | 28183 | +0853 | 56.35% | Snake | 21831 | +0654 | 43.65% | Lead of 6352 | (Up 199)
14:00 | Mega Man | 29043 | +0860 | 56.41% | Snake | 22439 | +0608 | 43.59% | Lead of 6604 | (Up 252)
14:15 | Mega Man | 29870 | +0827 | 56.42% | Snake | 23070 | +0631 | 43.58% | Lead of 6800 | (Up 196)
14:30 | Mega Man | 30678 | +0808 | 56.44% | Snake | 23676 | +0606 | 43.56% | Lead of 7002 | (Up 202)
14:45 | Mega Man | 31561 | +0883 | 56.56% | Snake | 24240 | +0564 | 43.44% | Lead of 7321 | (Up 319)
15:00 | Mega Man | 32361 | +0800 | 56.61% | Snake | 24802 | +0562 | 43.39% | Lead of 7559 | (Up 238)
15:15 | Mega Man | 33197 | +0836 | 56.67% | Snake | 25383 | +0581 | 43.33% | Lead of 7814 | (Up 255)
15:30 | Mega Man | 34043 | +0846 | 56.73% | Snake | 25970 | +0587 | 43.27% | Lead of 8073 | (Up 259)
15:45 | Mega Man | 34915 | +0872 | 56.80% | Snake | 26551 | +0581 | 43.20% | Lead of 8364 | (Up 291)
16:00 | Mega Man | 35740 | +0825 | 56.84% | Snake | 27133 | +0582 | 43.16% | Lead of 8607 | (Up 243)

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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

0.12% until Mega Man hits 57%. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

I forgot that I put this in my quote:

"Also for link vs crono. I dont think you are giving crono enough credit. link hasn't been that successful in these contests. This is a squaresoft favored website, and I think Crono has a pretty good chance against Link."

- hellfire104

^_^;
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8 hours left and he hasn't hit 57% yet. If I am not mistaken, Konami does fairly well with the night vote, but I may stand corrected. In either case, this one should come right down to the ole' wire.
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1) That doesn't refer to my taste in characters.

I've seen stuff about that too. But I won't go there. I don't want to start a flame war here.

2) Samus does look to be a very promising pick next year regardless.

No. She hasn't proven anything.

3) It's nearly a whole year away; nothing is set in stone yet.

You're right. Nothing. Except that we know that Link will get another easy ride to the Elite Eight or Sweet Sixteen AT LEAST. And that Cloud will not lose before the Final Four. And that some morons will still insist on having Sephiroth taking it all.

... Samus isn't set in stone though. But think about it. Metroid Prime brought her back into the spotlight. Metroid Prime 2 isn't exactly giving her a whole new audience or even greatly extending her fanbase.
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~Shdwdde

Metroid Prime 2 isn't exactly giving her a whole new audience or even greatly extending her fanbase.

If it's GCN exclusive, it might not.

But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it.

...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

I've seen stuff about that too. But I won't go there. I don't want to start a flame war here.

I'm cool if ya disagree, but we'd probably be better off just dropping that.

No. She hasn't proven anything.

I'm expecting a 55-45 match when she faces Cloud (I was expecting closer than that until she faced Sora), and she boosted out from nowhere. That's proving something in my eyes. With Metroid Prime 2 coming out this Christmas season and hearing that Metroid Prime Hunters (I think that's the name) will be packaged with the Nintendo DS, she has a very real chance to impress more people. Of course, it's not like all of that would make her a favorite or anything next year, but I think that it would be pretty possible next year, expecially of Zelda 10 doesn't come out in time for the contest.

You're right. Nothing. Except that we know that Link will get another easy ride to the Elite Eight or Sweet Sixteen AT LEAST. And that Cloud will not lose before the Final Four. And that some morons will still insist on having Sephiroth taking it all.

For Link and Cloud, it's hard to give them a hard path if your tried and still aim to keep a balanced and fair bracket. Of course, CJay could have done a much better job than what he did though. Agreed about Sephiroth though, heh.

... Samus isn't set in stone though. But think about it. Metroid Prime brought her back into the spotlight. Metroid Prime 2 isn't exactly giving her a whole new audience or even greatly extending her fanbase.

MP2:E will expand upon the fanbase she already has, I am confident of that; kids will get the game for Christmas, people will read its reviews, friends will check out multi-player...and assuming that MP2 is half the game that MP was, it's got nowhere to go but up. Plus, again, Samus being packaged with the DS will certainly help too.
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SIGG'D
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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it. ~sidharta on Metroid Prime 2

I'm still waitin' for that Chrono Trigger remake...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it. ~sidharta

Hey, my PS2 and games already on the greatest hits list are the only things I can afford.

I'm not going to buy a GCN just for Metroit Prime 2...

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

... Did you somehow forget that the Metroid series is owned by Nintendo?
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Metroid Prime 2 and Metroid Prime Echoes will not make nearly the impact of Metroid Prime though. Metroid Prime was Samus first starring roles in what, 8 years they say?

I'm still waitin' for that Chrono Trigger remake...

Tell me about it. That is second only to FF6 on my "**** son, tell me you're porting that to DS" list. And that's only because I got FFChronicles a short while ago.
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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it. ~sidharta on Metroid Prime 2

Get a job then ^_~



Also; Sephiroth has a chance....I'm 85% sure he won't, but anybody who says it can't happen is a fool.
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Hey, my PS2 and games already on the greatest hits list are the only things I can afford.

I'm not going to buy a GCN just for Metroit Prime 2...

In that case you're not getting Metroid Prime 2. It's okay though; Metroid Prime isn't all it's cracked up to be.

*ducks*
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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it. ~sidharta on Metroid Prime 2

Technically it can happen, but we all know it won't. =P
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SC2K4 ~ 55/57 ~ 99/104
But if they make it multi-console, it just might do it. ~sidharta on Metroid Prime 2

Metroid Prime was fantastic. Better then any PS2-exclusive game, outside of maybe ICO.
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

i'm with shadowdude...

*erects tower flame shield after tossing shadowdude one*
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... Did you somehow forget that the Metroid series is owned by Nintendo?

Duh, of course I know that.

Hey, if Nintendo fans can dream for FF VII to be remade on a Nintendo console, so can I. - j/k

On a more serious note, I was speaking hypothetically.
As in that's the ONLY way for Samus to significantly increase her fanbase.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Hey, hm, or anyone who might know, what will become of the gba series of games, are they still going to be made?

I thought of that while thinking that they still could just bring ffsix and the like to gba instead of ds.
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Is someone planning on doing the updates tomorrow? I plan on doing them regardless, because I'm anal about making sure that I'm very close to the 15 minute mark...

I just wouldn't post them throughout the day...
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

FF7 on a Nintendo system is a lot more possible than Metroid on any other. Square and Nintendo are slowly making up...

I don't mean technically, I mean Sephiroth can feasibly win.
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SC2K4 Score: 94/96(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Hey, hm, or anyone who might know, what will become of the gba series of games, are they still going to be made?

Nintendo has no intention of stopping the incoming flow of GBA games. This isn't meant to the successor to the GBA just a "third pillar", as Nintendo calls it. You'll still see plenty of GBA games released. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

In that case you're not getting Metroid Prime 2. It's okay though; Metroid Prime isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Technically it can happen, but we all know it won't. =P

And your point being?

I was simply giving a hypothetical example of what could potentially give Samus a major boost.

Looks like people took my jokes way too seriously...

I know full well it's never going to happen, at least not in my lifetime.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Mega Man needs 0.04% in order to break 57% now. Looks like we'll see it soon...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Mum, why don't you post the updates throughout the day in their own topic? And then, when something especially interesting happens, talk about it here in Stats as well. That would make things so much easier to follow along with.

Speaking of which... on what page did the final hours of Link/Crono end up?

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I think we really need to consider reverse SFF by Zero a possibility. Maybe Zero is > or = to Snake, but then Zero should be able to beat Sonic or come closer this year, and Samus will have to dismantle Sonic for that to happen.
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Mega Man 57% 38670
Solid Snake 43% 29178
TOTAL VOTES 67848
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros

Mega Man 57% 38685
Solid Snake 43% 29189

About damn time.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

for HM and that guy he bet with, this is gonna be like Frog vs MC.
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I think we really need to consider reverse SFF by Zero a possibility. Maybe Zero is > or = to Snake, but then Zero should be able to beat Sonic or come closer this year, and Samus will have to dismantle Sonic for that to happen.

Agreed; I think it's very unlikely that Zero would beat Solid Snake, though I do think it would be Sonic/Zero-close.
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(3) Solid Snake
(14) Morrigan
(6) Zero
(11) Sub Zero

That's where it's at, yo.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

I think Sonic is going to rank ahead of Snake either way though. The possibility of reverse SFF is out there, but Zero still shouldn't be higher than the Blue Blur since he appears to have increased as well.
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(6) Zero
(11) Sub Zero

I should've known Zero/Scorpion was a setup last year.
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The winner of HM's bet really can't win by more than .01% for the best fun. Mega is pulling past 57 now.
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros

I think I've settled on my 2 vs. 3 matches for now. Mario/Sonic, Crono/Ganondorf(Bowser?), Samus/Zero and Snake/Magus. How would that be?

Samus/Zero wouldn't be too close, unfortunately. Make Zero a 6 seed with Snake and Magus, and put Aeris/Vincent/Auron/Tidus up against Samus. Although they wouldn't be any more interesting than Zero, it at least allows for another interesting match in Zero vs. Snake or Magus.

And did you include Ridley? I think he'd be a great character to include, and I don't recall him being in RPGuy's bracket. Probably its biggest flaw, IMO, IIRC.

Dammit, I completely forgot about Zero/Scorp last year. Oh well, this way we'd get to see who's actually more popular. It's not like Sub Zero could beat any of my 6 seeds, anyway (Vivi Ornitier, Frog, Zelda, Zero).
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I think I've settled on my 2 vs. 3 matches for now. Mario/Sonic, Crono/Ganondorf(Bowser?), Samus/Zero and Snake/Magus. How would that be?

For comparative purposes, my 2/3 matches:
(2) Sonic the Hedgehog/(3) Magus Zeal
(2) Mega Man/(3) Ganondorf Dragmire
(2) Mario/(3) Aeris Gainsborough
(2) Crono/((3) Solid Snake/(6) Zero)
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

I think we really need to consider reverse SFF by Zero a possibility. Maybe Zero is > or = to Snake, but then Zero should be able to beat Sonic or come closer this year, and Samus will have to dismantle Sonic for that to happen.

I always thought Zero would be able to beat Sonic in a rematch. The fact that he performed as well as he did should say something about his strength. I think he'll at least have a ninth spot clinched barring some kind of crazy gain for Snake later tonight.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Oh and this is great to see Mega Man over 57% and still increasing. Come night time I wouldn't expect him to just totally drop either. I can at least be happy knowing he'll end over, or near, 57%. That's about 4% better than what he did against Snake last year.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Hmm...Mario's at 34.XX% in the Stats right? That would be somewhere between Magus and Tidus in the 2003 Stats...

That can't be too good for his ranking, especially if Mega does good against Link and Sonic does well against Samus, and she puts up good numbers on Cloud.
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Mega Man vs. Snake - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Snake (100/104)

Moltar, you have to consider we might be looking at a stronger Link.

Link[Crono[Mario]] would get 55.42% on Link [2003]
Link[CATS] would get 55.54% on Link[2003]

Eerily close, no?
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

What? Magus in the final four would rock. He and Zero are the two coolest people in that division.

But it just seems so... wrong.

HM, do you realize that under this setup, Mega Man and Mario would almost certainly not get to the final four?

Moltar, you have to consider we might be looking at a stronger Link.

Link[Crono[Mario]] would get 55.42% on Link [2003]
Link[CATS] would get 55.54% on Link[2003]

Eerily close, no?

A new Link winning against 2002/2003 Link with 55.54 to 55.42% would be scary as hell. O.o
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Ouch, I hope Cloud does really good against Seph.

Still doesn't help Mario's rank though, he could be ending up below the top 10.
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Mega Man vs. Snake - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Snake (100/104)

Hmm...Mario's at 34.XX% in the Stats right? That would be somewhere between Magus and Tidus in the 2003 Stats...

Good thing Magus got SFF'd and Tidus choked then.
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Stop him Solid! Don't you roll over and die!

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A new Link winning against 2002/2003 Link with 55.54 to 55.42% would be scary as hell. O.o

Yeah, then we have:

Link (2002) ---> Clinkeroth (2003) ---> Link (2004)

We should be adding elite characters, dammit!
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Yeah, then we have:

Link (2002) ---> Clinkeroth (2003) ---> Link (2004)

We should be adding elite characters, dammit!

I'm sure that would make the Ninty fanboys happy. Most of them anyway.
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Cloud can still compete with Link, though he's probably the only one.
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HM, do you realize that under this setup, Mega Man and Mario would almost certainly not get to the final four?

The only way Mario would ever get to the final four is if he were in the same division as Snake/Sonic, so I'm aware that under that setup Mario wouldn't. Mega Man certainly stands a chance no matter where you put him; now some will be better than others but he's not as limited as Mario.

But just imagine predicting that scenario, there's no one you could predict bad out of that four pack. Magus/Zero/Sonic/Snake.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
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I'm sure that would make the Ninty fanboys happy. Most of them anyway.

I'm a Nintendo fanboy, and I'm not happy.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

If Cloud were to lose to Link I'd see now more than 52% of the vote going into Link's favor.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Eh. I was referring to the unintelligent, illogical ones who cannot take a shred of criticism about Nintendo. ;)
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You know that the situation's not good when even HM's confidence is beginning to crumble.
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-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

But just imagine predicting that scenario, there's no one you could predict bad out of that four pack. Magus/Zero/Sonic/Snake.

...and a Halo 2-rejuvenated Master Chief.
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Magus/Zero/Sonic/Snake.

I'd take Magus, but yes, that rocks.
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Oh was MC in there too? That's all the better then.

Go Magus/Zero!
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I'm sure that would make the Ninty fanboys happy. Most of them anyway.


Nintendo's main characters >>>>> Other company's main characters.

Seriously, I love lots of the main Nintendo characters, or at least the Big Three, the Kongs, Ness, etc., but I'm not fond of most games' main characters. In the FF series, the only one I really like is Terra, and the only one from any game that might appear on my top 10 list would be Ashley Riot. All the games I like just have supporting characters that are better. It's a shame that the contest doesn't seem to reflect that.

The only reason that would make me happy is because of my dislike for Cloud. Seeing Samus, Mega Man, Snake, Magus, etc. up there with Link would be an incredible Fab Five.

Mac, I have found another Ashley Riot fan and I love you for it.

Ashley Riot from Vagrant Story? =)
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

-I am sick of all these rematches and characters from same game duking it out, result is too obvious. I hope we don't see another Snake vs Knuckles next contest. Who cares about Mario vs Bowser, I rather see Bowser vs Ganon.

-Crono, Megaman, and Samus needs to be in the same division. That would be chaotic. Who'd be the favorite? Mario, Sonic, and Solid Snake should be 1,2,3 in 2nd division, another not so predictable group. Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth should be in 3rd division. Let the 4th division be up for grabs between next half a dozen strongest characters after noble nine.

-All these joke entries need to be ousted. Gordon Freeman, Ryo Hazuki, Guybrush, CATS, etc.. they are stealing airtime from more deserving characters, which leads to some truly lame 2nd RD matches.

-DK needs a vacation, give Diddy a chance. Johanna Dark vs Master Chief might be a good first round matchup. I better see Leon S. Kennedy, Alex Roivas, and Kerrigan next year.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

I can never love S-E until they make Vagrant Story 2... THAT GAME NEEDS A SEQUEL.

-All these joke entries need to be ousted. Gordon Freeman, Ryo Hazuki, Guybrush, CATS, etc.. they are stealing airtime from more deserving characters, which leads to some truly lame 2nd RD matches.

Because those four characters have taken up, what, one second round slot in the past three contests, purely because Ryo happened to face Guybrush?
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Jon Thomson - today: Mega Man, tomorrow: Sephiroth - 96/104
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

The only way Mario would ever get to the final four is if he were in the same division as Snake/Sonic, so I'm aware that under that setup Mario wouldn't.

I think if Mario was in a division where the only other Noble Nine character was Samus, he'd get the nod to go to the Final Four once again. Yes, I know that Samus is more powerful than Mario right now, too. See Mega Man/Zero.
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Yeah, instead of Guybrush we should put Manny or the Green Tentacle in.

Much better characters and I love Monkey Island.

*coughcough*DIDDY KONG*coughcough*
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Cloud786: What does wangsterbate mean?
Lawn Flamingo Lamp: It's from Pokemon.

-I am sick of all these rematches and characters from same game duking it out, result is too obvious. I hope we don't see another Snake vs Knuckles next contest. Who cares about Mario vs Bowser, I rather see Bowser vs Ganon.

Agreed. Repeats + SFF does not a good bracket make.

-Crono, Megaman, and Samus needs to be in the same division. That would be chaotic. Who'd be the favorite? Mario, Sonic, and Solid Snake should be 1,2,3 in 2nd division, another not so predictable group. Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth should be in 3rd division. Let the 4th division be up for grabs between next half a dozen strongest characters after noble nine.

I don't agree. Stacking divisions makes for a good Elite 8, but a terrible Final Four and championship. A good bracket needs to be balanced.

-All these joke entries need to be ousted. Gordon Freeman, Ryo Hazuki, Guybrush, CATS, etc.. they are stealing airtime from more deserving characters, which leads to some truly lame 2nd RD matches.

I completely agree. Every character should be able to break 15% on the champion, with most getting 20%, when we have such a large pool of characters to chose form.

-DK needs a vacation, give Diddy a chance. Johanna Dark vs Master Chief might be a good first round matchup. I better see Leon S. Kennedy, Alex Roivas, and Kerrigan next year.

Leon and Kerrigan are the only two I see doing good. Diddy, Joanna, and Alex would fall under the Freeman, Ryo, and Guybrush category.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

I dont know.

I think Joanna could be above fodder.

Joanna would be nothing but fodder.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Perfect Dark was fodder. FPS games > FPS characters (see Freeman and Half Life). Joanna would be fodder.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

But what about the Perfect Dark Zero????

HAHA, like that is ever coming out...

jonthomson, u gotta see the bigger picture. With better characters and readjusted seeds, 2nd round matches will be better in general. It's either that or we can place all the joke entries in one division.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

I can never love S-E until they make Vagrant Story 2... THAT GAME NEEDS A SEQUEL.

Well, Brave Fencer Musashi is finally getting a sequel, so you can still hold out hope for Vagrant Story.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Nah they are too busy making sequels to games that had complete stories...

DK needs a vacation, give Diddy a chance. Johanna Dark vs Master Chief might be a good first round matchup. I better see Leon S. Kennedy, Alex Roivas, and Kerrigan next year.

DK needs no vacation, but Diddy does need a shot; I'd be interested in how a Wario/Diddy Kong match would go, though neither would really deserve to get to the next round. Perfect Dark is undoubtedly my favorite game ever, but I see no chance for Miss Dark and MC to be a good match...unless Rare ever releases a sequel to it like they've supposed to for awhile now.

I'm tellin' ya, we need Kerrigan in for one reason and one reason only: to be very low-seeded and face an elite, that way we can get some over-expecting gamblers out of the way right from the get-go AND Starcraft fans can be happy that a character finally got in. I'd like to see this next year, just because of the unjust hype it would get...

(3) Master Chief
(14) Kerrigan

...that would bring a smile to my face.
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~courtesy of mr wednesday

Perfect Dark Zero = new Duke Nukem Forever.
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Cloud786: What does wangsterbate mean?
Lawn Flamingo Lamp: It's from Pokemon.

If you take the 57.13% Mega Man has now and compare it to the 53.5% Mega Man got last year against Snake he's overperforming by 3.63%. If you add that to Mega Man's 2003 value--and assume Snake didn't decrease--that brings up Mega Man up to 42.23% against a 2003 Link. That's just a little below his 2002 value. Not to bad...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

I've posted the 15 minute updates for this match so far :

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16583953

Apparently no one cares. ;_;

And I posted yesterday's too...

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(7) Terra Branford
(10) Sarah Kerrigan
(2) Mario
(15) HK-47

Think I could get people to bite on Mario? I'd pick Terra over Kerrigan, but I imagine that would be a pretty popular upset pick.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

First of all, Master Chief doesn't deserve any seed over 5. And you really think Kerrigan has no chance to beat MC? Well, maybe not right after Halo 2 comes out, but it isn't a foregone conclusion, at least to me...
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

Master Chief would slaughter Kerrigan.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

First of all, Master Chief doesn't deserve any seed over 5. And you really think Kerrigan has no chance to beat MC? Well, maybe not right after Halo 2 comes out, but it isn't a foregone conclusion, at least to me...

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Master Chief doesn't deserve a seed better than 5 after being equal to the guy that got 48.61% on Snake? I fail to see the logic in that.

With that said,
(4) Tidus
(13) Fox McCloud
(5) Master Chief
(12) Lloyd Irving

Heh. Tidus vs Tidus in green armor.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

First of all, Master Chief doesn't deserve any seed over 5.

Master Chief's performance this year indicates that he's a top 15 character, meaning that he deserves no worse than a 5 seed.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

I don't know Too Human might be more the new Duke Nukem Forever than PD0.

Perfect Dark was fodder.

At worst, Perfect Dark is a 9-seed, but I think it could rank higher; I'm confident that if Goldeneye and Metal Gear Solid had switched places, Goldeneye/C:SotN/Perfect Dark would look better in the rankings...maybe not much better (7-seed at best, probably), but PD is no fodder.
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DK needs a vacation, give Diddy a chance. Johanna Dark vs Master Chief might be a good first round matchup. I better see Leon S. Kennedy, Alex Roivas, and Kerrigan next year.

Putting Alex in would be awesome...

Ashley Riot from Vagrant Story? =)

Well, yeah. I don't know about any other Ashley Riot. But he's awesome, and has many awesome quotes, to boot.

I can never love S-E until they make Vagrant Story 2... THAT GAME NEEDS A SEQUEL.

Definitely. VS2 would make me go out and buy a PS2 on the spot.

Fox McCloud!! Woo, good to see him back in that bracket, RPGuy. He certainly deserves it after having a new game coming out before the next contest. And I'd pick Master Chief for that one.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Perfect Dark = 18.98% on FFVII. To me, that's high end fodder, and since Joanna will not be as strong as her game, she's certainly fodder by any definition.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Is it possible that there was more SFF in Link vs. Fox than was initially thought?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

And PD only deserves a 9 seed because half the damn bracket was fodder.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Ouch, thats what I get for not paying attention to earlier rounds.... I didn't realize MC was that close to snake, what happened???? I guess that puts MC in 4-5 range then. 3 is still too high IMO. But still, I wouldn't count Kerrigan out...
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

Gamefaqs should have a worst character ever tourny. Whoever you hate the most, you vote for.

I think Tingle or Slippy would win.

Is it possible that there was more SFF in Link vs. Fox than was initially thought?

Considering how Link SFFd his opponents to hell and back this year, and most of the matches we thought did not have SFF last year turned out to have significant SFF, I would say it's a very good possibility. I was considering Fox/Raiden as an 8/9, but I decided I liked Raiden/Zidane more.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

RPGuy, I don't think I posted this, but I believe I noticed Crono/Snake in your bracket. Which would be a rematch, from 2k2.

Raiden vs. Zidane is so deliciously evil. I'd favor Zidane initially, but it's got the possibility of being Liquid vs. Frog, part deux.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Is it possible that there was more SFF in Link vs. Fox than was initially thought?

After Ganondorf and Yoshi this year I'm more than willing to say that there was a good amount of SFF in Link/Fox last year. I definitely don't think he's as low as the rankings have him in 2003 and with a new game coming out he has nowhere to go but up. He must be back in 2005...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Seriously, you think Star Fox would be fourth on the Nintendo pecking order, or atleast 6th behind Gannon and Bowser.

Also, Andross is the man. How can you not hate that guy at the end of Star Fox 64?

Kind of interesting that Link got 82.46% on Fox and 81.74% on Yoshi. Maybe Fox is between that value and Yoshi's real value?

... Unless this Link is actually as strong as it seems he is.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

First of all, Master Chief doesn't deserve any seed over 5. And you really think Kerrigan has no chance to beat MC? Well, maybe not right after Halo 2 comes out, but it isn't a foregone conclusion, at least to me...

MC has been a 3-seed the past two years...you could argue that he didn't deserve it too much in 2k3, but there is no denying that he's powerful enough to be respected as a 3-seed now. Next year, with Halo 2 out, I have little doubt that MC can pull it off again...and maybe even higher if it's just based on nominations again.

No, I think Kerrigan has no shot against MC, especially a post-Halo 2 MC. At the very worst for MC, it could be 60-40 I think. Let me add onto my proposed prospects for one division next year...

(1) Solid Snake
(2) Sonic
(3) Master Chief
(4) Zero
(6) Magus
(14) Kerrigan

...I add Kerrigan because people will go for the risk; hell, people picked Crash over Master Chief this year, so at least Kerrigan is more reasonable.
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The only thing I dislike about that portion of the bracket is that Fox is forced out in round 1 unless he suffered massive SFF like Ganondorf. ;_;
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Seriously I like to see these 9 Nintendo characters used next year:

Link, Mario, Samus, Bowser, Gannondorf, Yoshi, Star Fox, Zelda, Ness and hopefully we can get the character limit moved up by one to get Ridley in too.

Talking about brackets and making brackets..

You'll never really be able to avoid SFF sometimes.. shouldn't see much in the way of it in early rounds, of course. I'm talking about character contests here.

#1, #2, and #3 seeds are almost too easy to predict.

The hardest seeds to predict are the #4-#6 block. Guys that are well known and all, but not 'powerful' enough to be considered champions. There's quite a large # of them out there. But.. here you might not be able to avoid SFF in the second/third rounds because most of the possible #4-#6 seed characters would come from RPGs.

#7-#10 seeds are guys that, obviously, should be taken seriously enough to win one battle. No way they will knock off a #1 or #2 seed, because #1 and #2 seeds will absolutely NEVER lose a match in the first two rounds with the way the contest is set up. It can happen in Best. Game. Ever. contests.. but not in Character Contests.

Now.. #11 and #12 seed characters could have the potential to be stronger than the ones seeded #7-#10. There's a bit of uncertainty in the #4-#6 range, and some characters could be underseeded enough to fall this far. An upset of a
#5 or #6 seed wouldn't be unusual, and they might be strong enough to decently challenge in round 2. Tails may have been an example of this, as he pulled off an 'upset' of a #5 seed.

#13-#16 seeds are pretty much the cult characters or joke characters. You can put just about anyone here really when making a bracket, it's not going to make much of a difference. With the exception of the first contest, and Jill in this one, don't expect too many close matches with these guys.

It still is fun to draw up your own brackets and compare with others. I've just thought about making brackets too much and my above thoughts are simply what I observed :P

No matter what kind of brackets you guys can come up with.. the cream will always rise to the top. I don't think any character anytime soon will compete with Link or Cloud.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I just couldn't see Ridley doing so well. If you're going to maintain the 10 character cap, there are many other characters who deserve more consideration than him.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Actually, what would someone estimate the SFF to be in Link/Fox last year? Something along the lines of Link/Yoshi this year? If Tidus fell and Fox went up due to SFF coupled with a new game he might be able to put up a close match in that hypothetical match...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

If Tidus fell and Fox went up due to SFF coupled with a new game he might be able to put up a close match in that hypothetical match...

Well, I'll just go ahead and maintain my position that Tidus didn't fall from near elite to the level of Yoshi. Plus, there's also the possibility that Link is even stronger than the 2003 version, meaning it wouldn't be an equal comparison to what he did to Fox.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

I say at least give him a shot. Luigi and Donkey Kong have both proven they can't get past low-midcard.

Though I have yet to see him in anything MP2: Echoes which is discouraging. But if not Ridley how about Captain Falcon?

RPGuy, I don't think I posted this, but I believe I noticed Crono/Snake in your bracket. Which would be a rematch, from 2k2.

Only if Snake beats Zero. And since this match would theoretically take place in 2k5, I think that would be enough time to elapse for a rematch. I tried to avoid rematches whenever possible, but I was more concerned about SFF, and I can't move Snake/Zero to another 3/6 without getting SFF in there somewhere.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

I say at least give him a shot. Luigi and Donkey Kong have both proven they can't get past low-midcard.

Though I have yet to see him in anything MP2: Echoes which is discouraging. But if not Ridley how about Captain Falcon?

I don't see Ridley in any contests really.. Captain Falcon would be okay as a double digit seed.

You're right about Luigi and Donkey Kong. Luigi though might be able to win a first round matchup. DK is going to go to #13-#16 seed purgatory.. and Donkey Konga won't help him.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Okay, here's something to think about:

If Fox suffered the same amount of SFF that Yoshi did [8.79%] then he goes up to 26.33% against Link in 2003. That's right below Kirby. Now, you add in the fact that Fox will be getting a new game for the GameCube before the Summer 2005 contest and the fact he's only had three major titles (Star Fox, Star Fox 64, Star Fox Adventures) and he certainly has room to grow some. Nothing like the 8% he would need to reach a 2003 Tidus, but probably enough to get at or a little over 30%.

At that percentage a 2003 Tidus would get 56.2% against Fox (with a value of 30% in 2005). So if Tidus fell by any chance that could get interesting, although all of this assumes that he suffered the same amount of SFF as Yoshi and his game would increase him by 4%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Though there is NO REASON Ridley shouldn't be in the next Smash Brothers. He was, in my opinion, the biggest omission. Bigger than Pit.

Well, I'll just go ahead and maintain my position that Tidus didn't fall from near elite to the level of Yoshi.

Eh, I don't believe he fell either; I was just saying if he did.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Doney Konga won't, but what about Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat. That game looks SO AWESOME.

On Donkey Kong:

(8) Donkey Kong
(9) Leon Kennedy

He got moved from the Serge match to avoid SFF in the 2nd round. And since you might want to see who Serge got,

(7) Ness
(10) Serge

Heh.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

Wow Donkey Kong going to get OWNED there.

I actually pick Ness over Serge.

Serge got Ness? Oh, I definitely know who I'd take in that match...

The one who fought against Fate.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Though there is NO REASON Ridley shouldn't be in the next Smash Brothers. He was, in my opinion, the biggest omission. Bigger than Pit.

I should put Pit in a version of my bracket. Sure, he'll be in the #13-#16 seed range.. but he'd make good fodder.

That's the beauty of the #13-#16 seeds in making brackets. You can pretty much put any non-major character you can think of there. Whether it's Pit, Raine Sage, or QB Eagles(technically, he could be in a contest! He's not a real person or a cartoon character! Does that make him eligible? :) ) The only real difference is coming up with how badly you'd think they would be creamed by.

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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Fox probably got much, MUCH less SFF than Yoshi. He got 25% on Cloud in 2002, which could translate to roughly 22% on Link once Cloud is adjusted.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Would you give Fox a chance against my other 4 seeds:

(4) Shadow the Hedgehog
(4) Squall Leonhart
(4) Dante Sparda
(4) Tidus

Or even a 5?

(5) Auron
(5) Ryu
(5) Alucard
(5) Master Chief

Alucard's taken (Liquid Snake, heh), but the others are fair game.
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"Open your useless mouth again during operations and you'll be shot." ~ Lloyd, Front Mission

No. Fox is weaker than Bowser in my opinion and thus a solid 7 seed at best.

Fox honestly looked about right below Kirby, but he needs to comeback next year...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Tomorrow...

Estuans interius
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Estuans interius
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Sephiroth
Sephiroth

Sors immanis
Et inanis
Sors immanis
Et inanis

Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias

Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias

Gloriosa
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Board Wanderer. SC2k4 Points: 101/104

Fox would get killed horribly against all of them, I think.

Geez, of all the snubs to overestimate, you pick FOX MCCLOUD of all people.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Donkey Kong probably wouldn't win, but he certainly wouldn't get owned, unless you believe Leon Kennedy will be an instant elite.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Fox vs these guys...

(4) Shadow the Hedgehog

He has a shot.

(4) Squall Leonhart

No

(4) Dante Sparda

Possibly

(4) Tidus

No

Or even a 5?

(5) Auron

No

(5) Ryu

Not really

(5) Alucard

I know you said he's taken, but I think Fox has a shot.

(5) Master Chief

No

I think he has more of a shot as a #13 seed than as a #12 seed in your bracket..
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Speaking of One Winged Angel...
*points at sig*

As much as I dislike Seph as a villain, his theme rocks.
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Fox would get killed horribly against all of them, I think.

I completely disagree with you on that.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Dante would be the best bet to put Fox against, I think.
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Not an Instant Elite, but I think Leon could find himself on Auron, Tidus, Shadow level.

Fox would put up a decent performance, but there's no way he'd even come close to beating any of them. I think he's one of those characters whose game would be more popular than they are. Thus, I'd rather see Star Fox 64 in the next Spring Contest, should we have another.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

Fox is not single-digit-seed worthy.

I repeat: FOX IS NOT SINGLE-DIGIT-SEED WORTHY. And in the odd case where he is, a good third of your bracket is cannon fodder, and therefore, your bracket sucks.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Ouch, Donkey Kong/Leon Kennedy is actually pretty tough when you consider that Donkey Kong has two games coming out within the year and Leon has one major title with Resident Evil 4. Although I'd imagine Leon being stronger than Jill...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Not an Instant Elite, but I think Leon could find himself on Auron, Tidus, Shadow level.

That's about as elite as a non-Noble Nine character gets.
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Tennessee Volunteers: #8, 3-0
Next game: #9 Auburn Tigers (3-0)

RPG my 4 and 5s are better than yours :P

4. Shadow
4. Tidus
4. Auron
4. Ryu

5. Squall
5. Frog
5. Aeris
5. Master Cheif

Dante's kinda taken too. He's got CJ. Tidus/CJ would be a huge upset pick, though, so I think I'll go for it.

Dante's 4 pack now looks like this:
(4) Dante Sparda
(13) Fox McCloud
(5) Alucard
(12) Liquid Snake

And Tidus':
(4) Tidus
(13) CJ
(5) Master Chief
(12) Lloyd Irving

Lovely.
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Burning inside, with a violent anger...
Please, please, please, do not let me die!

Fox is not single-digit-seed worthy.

Imagine taking that 22% against Cloud and say he suffered ~3% SFF against Link. Now add his new game and give him about 4%, that puts him at Kirby's level when all is said and done. He can certainly take a single digit seed.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Leonhart, you have Zero, Magus, Gannondorf, Frog, Master Cheif in between them next year.

(4) Tidus
(13) CJ
(5) Master Chief
(12) Lloyd Irving

Call me crazy, but they both have a potential for an upset.

I don't see that happening though.. I imagine CJ would do just as well as Tommy Vercetti would..

As for Lloyd, I think he'd deserve to win one match.. but Halo 2 would be massively popular and in the minds of a lot more people. He'd put up a fight though. MC could very well be a wildcard in 2005.

Speaking of Vercetti.. with the popularity and notoriety of GTA:VC, I'd figure he would be a Noble Nine-ish level character.. but he never lived up to my expectactions. How come he never made waves in 2003 and 2004?
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

RPG, weird thing is we both have Dante vs Fox but two completely different seeds...

4%? With Link as reference? Nope, it'd be more like 4% compared to his old self, which means less than 2 compared to Link. Y halo thar KOS-MOS.

Boosts are generally proportional to the strength of the character.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Did someone say cannon fodder?

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/ud/fodder_cannon.jpg

*runs*
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I'm personally not expecting much out of Carl Johnson. If Vercetti had Freeman Flu, why wouldn't he?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

I think Fox could get a mid-boost from his game considering it should be fairly well hyped by the time it comes out.

At least a boost to get him to a 10-11 seed.

Question: Fox McCloud or Tails, who would win?
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Harrich, if there is any justice in this world, Fox. Hell I take SLIPPY over Tails.

Also CJ could get the urban vote which will rise him to VICTORY. Seriously, is he the first African-American character in this contest?

I'm personally not expecting much out of Carl Johnson. If Vercetti had Freeman Flu, why wouldn't he?

Freeman Flu? You can count on Vercetti to at least win one match :P

Man, I was on something when I thought Vercetti was going to win 2003.. I mean.. GTA is cool with the kiddies that want to be mature and he so happens to be the main character.. Plus a lot of people read the FAQs and used to go to the message boards.. I think he might be the biggest bust in Summer Contest history :P

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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I'd pick Tails. Both are grossly underestimated in the X-Sts, but Tails suffers more.
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I meant that assuming he gets in next year.

Leonhart, you have Zero, Magus, Gannondorf, Frog, Master Cheif in between them next year.

But not that far ahead of them. You really think Leon Kennedy could give these characters a good fight? I certainly don't.
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CJ's black?

Well, depending on bracket placement, he might get beaten to the punch by Kerrigan...
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

RPG, weird thing is we both have Dante vs Fox but two completely different seeds...

Were you the one that based your bracket off of mine or was that somebody else? If not, that's really weird.
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Also CJ could get the urban vote which will rise him to VICTORY. Seriously, is he the first African-American character in this contest?

I think CJ could and should make this contest. He's likely only to get as far as Vercetti did, though. I'm not making the same mistake twice when I fill out my Contest bracket next year, regardless of how well SA sells :D
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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Speaking of Sega, man I want a Shining Force character is this contest.

Even though they would be fodder, the second greatest RPG series deserves one character.

eh, nobody noticed the fodder cannon?

awww..


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Kerrigan's not black. She's Zerg...

And yes CJ is hood and everything.


G.

Also, I didn't check other's brackets much for reasons already explained, but... we're talking of CJ and all, but... where's FF12?
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I dont think it will make the contest.

That's what I get for trusting Ertyu on info.

Meh, I'll ask Saxon next time.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

Will FFXII make summer of next year? I only did characters that I thought would be popular and would have games by next year (CJ and Leon, really).
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We don't know if anyone good will even come out of FFXII. Just think, it could be the next X-2. Ugh.
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I noticed the fodder cannon, and I enjoyed it. *gives the two-thumbs-up* Oh, and CJ will make the contest next year, no worries. You know what would be scary? If CJ faced Donkey Kong in the second round like Vercetti did.

Yikes.
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According to this site, FF12 comes out in Japan in December and in NA in February.
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Tediz, the man in charge of it made Vagrant Story. Also the Tactics team is the one working on it.

Its Square's best talent. This game can't suck.

From EB games:

Final Fantasy XII
Pre-Order: Ships on 2/14/2005

I don't know how accurate that is, though. I thought SquEnix was going to get DWVIII out by summer and FFXII by the holiday season, but I could be wrong.
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4%? With Link as reference? Nope, it'd be more like 4% compared to his old self, which means less than 2 compared to Link. Y halo thar KOS-MOS.

There is absolutely no way I'd see him being at the level of KOS-MOS. Like I said earlier, right around Kirby looks perfect. We'll just have to see in the coming year, but I think your definitely underestimating him.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

That site lies... I think most modest predictions for FFXII has it as a November 2005 release.

Oh. But we still don't know which characters will be contest worthy.
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Question: Fox McCloud or Tails, who would win?

Fox, no doubt about it.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

I'd expect no less from Heroic Mario.
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Ashe because of love at first sight...

And wait, around KOS-MOS would be if he suffered no SFF against Link. There's no way you're getting me to buy something as crazy as that.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

If Tightass can be a huge success, I dunno how Vaan couldn't be. He's, like, Tidus after massive estrogen injections.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 096/104 - Matches: 53/57 - Rank: 00625/33221 - Final 4: LINK, Megaman, CLOUD, Samus

No, around KOS-MOS is with SFF taken into account. It gets far uglier if we don't... how about Bomberman?
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57.17%...

Welcome to the Noble Nine, Zero!
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Today's Pick: Mega Man

Vaan is very poorly designed. I mean seriously even Tidus would look at him and say:

"Are you sure you aren't hiding a secret from all of us."

But Ashe is probably my favorite designed female by Square since... well... ever.

No, around KOS-MOS is with SFF taken into account.

Wait, is this forgetting the boost from his new game?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Zero isnt in the Noble Nine, like Magus wasn't last year. Im not going to buy him getting put in when SFF is a huge possible in that result.

Who else thinks that Cloud/Seph pic is the best of the contest?

I think Mega Man/Zero was the best pic of the contest. But Cloud/Seph is good.

FFXII shouldn't come any sooner than Winter 2005.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

like Magus wasn't last year.

Technically, Magus made the "Noble Nine" by 0.01%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Really I dont see anyone listing him the Noble Nine...

You know what I meant...

And I have no idea why people do that, I would've taken Magus to beat Sonic.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Maybe there should be a bracket with 2-3 least powerful noble nine and a whole bunch of noble nine hopefuls like Zero.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

I meant division, not bracket.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

As for Lloyd, I think he'd deserve to win one match..

I think Laharl still deserves to win one match too. But everyone keeps putting him as a 15 seed. I am saddened.
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Lloyd is much more well known than Laharl...


Hopefully....

Maybe there should be a bracket with 2-3 least powerful noble nine and a whole bunch of noble nine hopefuls like Zero.

Next year...
(1) Solid Snake
(2) Sonic
(3) Master Chief
(4) Zero
(6) Magus
(14) Kerrigan

...that'd be hellacious on prediction percentages, and it would be as good of a shot as there ever has been for MC/Zero/Magus...well, Magus TECHNICALLY did already, but people ignored him; this would be his chance to make people take notice.
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meh... 5 hours... such a long wait to see if all my hopes get shattered or succeed!
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Wednesday 9/29/04
Showdown of Fate

Lloyd isn't strong enough to be, much less beat, a legitimate 8 seed. I was very generous giving him an 11. And if Vyse gets a 16 seed in my bracket, where does that leave Laharl?
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where does that leave Laharl?

Absent during the roll call!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Oh, and I guess that the FFXII main character (Ashe? Vaan?) gets in for Sora.
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Thats the kind of division I want to see next year Harrich. I'd even add Mario in there.
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Current Score: 21/22
Next Pick: ViVi

I wouldn't include any FFXII character until the game has a solid release date. I've heard that it'd be NEXT winter when we get it...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

Oh, and I guess that the FFXII main character (Ashe? Vaan?) gets in for Sora.

What about Kingdom Hearts 2/Kingdom Hearts GBA? I think Sora'll be back.

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SC2K4 Prediction: Link over Cloud
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

yeah, with kh chain of memories at least, and byhis own merit, sora deserves to stay.
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Heck, the simple fact that Sora is so strong already PLUS KH2/KH:CoM I wouldn't kick him out either.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
A Tribute to the Blue Bomber

If the 10 character limit holds up the first to go is Kefka and I think he will go for Vincent. Next up I think will be little Vivi sadly.

Thought about adding Mario, but I think that'd be better off leaving him in a division where he'd be a 1/2-seed, and the other top-seed in the division is Samus. For those of us who look into stats, it'd be a matter of statistical power VS being higher up on the Nintendo totem pole.

I'd pick Mario to be able to beat Samus this year, but I'd pick Samus next year.
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What about Kingdom Hearts 2/Kingdom Hearts GBA? I think Sora'll be back.

You wanna see my Square characters?

(1) Sephiroth
(1) Cloud Strife
(2) Crono
(3) Magus Zeal
(3) Aeris Gainsborough
(4) Squall Leonhart
(4) Tidus
(5) Auron
(6) Vivi Ornitier
(6) Frog
(7) Terra Branford
(8) Sora
(10) Vincent Valentine
(10) Serge

I can't add any more Square characters without getting SFF in there, so somebody has to go. And I don't like Sora.
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