With Mario vs Crono III coming up in a matter of hours, we'll be needing this soon.

***Stats websites***

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/extrapolated.php

Summer 2002 Extrapotated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k2_extrapolated.htm

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k3_extrapolated.htm

Character comparisons Between Summer 2002 and Summer 2003:
http://sc2k4.com/summer_comparisons.php

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

***Stats topics***

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k4.com/update.php (add "?pollid=[4-digit poll number]" at the end of url to look at charts from past polls)

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=2

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=3

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=2

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

You'll probably need a few of these.
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I'm not sure whether I should be offended, or have cereal. Meh... I'll do both. - The Icon Ownz All

I've got Crono on mine, but I'll be voting Mario cuz I've never even played CT =P

*I'm a poor deprived child* =(
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Neopets S/N: firestorm1776

Tag.
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See my writings at http://www.alexkaulfuss.com as the GrandioseGadfly
Fujin is the greatest character ever conceived by man.

Bracket or preference....

Go Maono!
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Yoshi - Bracket: Link - Vote: Yoshi (60/64)

My bracket and my sig depend on Crono's victory...
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

Unless it becomes real anti-climatic.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I want Crono to win, because I want to see Link/Crono, not Link/Mario. Mario is the better character, though, and will be getting my vote.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Crono will get it done, finally.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

Crono's going down for a third time.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

crono means business this time round.
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Pug
Proud Member of the Gordon Freeman Army

He meant business last time too...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Yeah, yeah, HM, we all know who you're voting for.

...well, okay, so I'm voting Mario, too...
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 60/64, Next Winner: Link

smitelf, you kick ass. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Updated the sig early...

>=)
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

Yeah, Crono meant business last time and should have won. As long as he doesn't get ripped off again, he'll get it done.

It's all in the numbers: Mario vs. Crono III...Chrono Trigger beats 3 Mario games on the way to the Spring Contest finals, including Super Mario World in the Sweet Sixteen (with Cape Mario, dun dun dun). It's all woven into the threads of fate.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

go Crono
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

Mario also beat Crono with a sword. The picture clearly is in Mario's court and he'll be the one to be victorious... again.

This is the third time I would have had Mario over Crono in my bracket and the third time I'll be voting/rooting for the plumber.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Mario also beat Crono with a sword. The picture clearly is in Mario's court and he'll be the one to be victorious... again.

And your Panthers had a road victory in a tough environment today. Crono pulls off an upset on Mario's home turf. Again, it's fate.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

This'll be the second time for me with Mario over Crono...had Snake over Mario the first time, dammit.

Yay, here comes the fun
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"Truly,if there is evil in this world,
it lies within the heart of mankind."-Dhaos

I didn't get a bracket in on time for 2k2, but I woulda had Mario win the whole thing. I had Crono beat Mario last year, and we saw how that went. This year, I picked Mario...and by golly, I hope I get it right. Bracket or no bracket, I would much rather have Mario win than Crono, no doubt.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

How many of these are we going to churn through in the next 24 hours? I would think finishing off 64 and 65, and maybe 66 sounds about right. Go Crono!
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

Too many posts in here, last topic not finished.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

In case Mario doesn't come back...

...Here's hoping that Samus causes some serious **** in the contest and screws up everyone else's bracket. ^_^
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

HM...

Surrender now.

(Don't worry, do as I say. It will help ^_~)

[You know, your curse...]
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Well, when the parents are away... brother and sister can play..

And Crono breaks 1300.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Now that I've stolen post 500 with relative ease, time for my before school analysis.

Crono will beat Mario
Link will beat Crono
Link will beat Mega Man
Cloud Will beat Sephiroth
Cloud will beat Samus
Cloud will beat Link.

I am 100% sure with all of these picks.
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I just needed a sig so I could post messages like "..." and "10/10" without getting the stupid CAPS message.

It all seems so anti-climatic. We've been expecting a good match, high vote totals, and whatnot since we saw it on the bracket. Yet it's all ho-hum today.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

Go Crono.
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Sora and Andel both defeated me in the Summer Contest.58/62

Crono will beat Mario
Link will beat Crono
Link will beat Mega Man
Cloud Will beat Sephiroth
Cloud will beat Samus
Cloud will beat Link.

I agree with this except for the 100% sure.. I am sure on all the other matches except Link vs. Cloud.. 50-50 for me on that one..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

On a side note, the vote totals are shockingly low for this match. What did Tidus vs. Shadow have at this time?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 9/20/2004 9:47:25 AM | Message Detail
It all seems so anti-climatic. We've been expecting a good match, high vote totals, and whatnot since we saw it on the bracket. Yet it's all ho-hum today.

I mentioned that in the last topic. I think that the contest itself is just dull, and today's match proves it.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

It won't be all ho-hum when it is 12:06 PST, the poll is still open, Mario has trimmed the lead under 50 for the first time since last night, and The Jesus is just waiting to unleash Mega Man/Zero on us... but not until said 50 votes have been erased too. I am not saying he plays unfair... wait a minute...
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

From the last topic:

So is this a sign that Crono has gotten stronger, Mario has gotten weaker, or both?

I think it's both. Especially with Nintendo as a whole, IMO, being weaker. Mario and Link represent Nintendo, and I feel their character strength has gone down a bit.

It's true Link has dominated so far, but.. he's beaten a character only known for a bad translation and two other Nintendo characters. He hasn't gone up against any real competition outside of Nintendo. He will in the next round and we'll see how strong he is.

I have Crono beating Link in the next round by a very slim margin(115 votes, I predict, I'll have it ready for Prophet Challenge). I do acknowledge, though, that in order for Crono to have a shot at winning, he's gotta beat Mario by 5000+ votes. I think he can pull it off this year, he's well on his way to doing so. Screw the day vote :P

Of course, this is all just one man's simple opinion.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Crono upsetting Link just seems too impossible.. However, i would love it if that happen... =)

Link 58%
Crono 42%

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

If Mario has remained stable and Crono has gone up, he should put up a solid performance on Link.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

If Link beats Crono 58-42, he's got this contest this year locked up! :P
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

1400 votes now.....

C'mon Mario!
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

Nah, this one's done like dinner, and it's not even lunchtime yet.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

"Nah, this one's done like dinner"

That's what everyone said last year...
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Current Contest Score: 57/64
Picks: Link, Mario, Megaman, Snake, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, Samus

Crono looks like he's getting the day vote too.. yipes. This one's ugly
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Mario also put up a fight last year instead of letting Crono take the match and run with it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

1500 votes now. Crono's increasing in margin and percentage. Mario's only hope is a massive after-school vote.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Why would an after school vote help Mario? There are plenty of American Chrono Trigger fans.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'm saying that Crono's lead only continues to increase even as the morning vote pours in. Mario would have to win the afternoon vote by leaps and bounds.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

True. Mario may need a link on a major Nintendo site to have a chance at this. Crono could very well be up by 2000 by the time 3 PM EST rolls around.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Crono is now up by 1650 votes, and shows no signs of slowing down. Not only is this bad news for Mario, but it's also bad news for Link and Samus.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

This isn't really bad news for link. Crono got more bracket voters this year, and people vote for another character to win. And I think that by the end the difference won't be that big.
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58/58 points in sc2004
And yes I know my username is lame.

On a side note, the vote totals are shockingly low for this match. What did Tidus vs. Shadow have at this time?

I don't know about the time you posted, but:

Tidus vs. Shadow at 8:10:02 - 28,225
Mario vs. Crono at 8:10:01 - 26,049

This is anti-climatic as hell - even the vote totals are ho-hum.

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Why the hell is Crono winning the day vote?
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"Yoshi!!!"--Yoshi

Mario'll need to do a comeback to put Master Chief to shame. Not bloody likely.

Speculation about Crono beating Link makes me cry. Crono'd need to win by something like 20000 votes to do that, and he probably won't do the fifth of that.

Ulti: The after-school vote is characterized not by a character's pace plummeting, but the other one picking up like mad. Frog remained rather consistent, but it was Chief who made the big leap forward.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

It's not the day vote yet. Watch near 3 PM EST, though.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

Mario looks like he's doing a bit better. The lead went up by 1 (1785) on the 8:30 update, and it is down by 27 (as of this post) since then.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Please Mario start your comeback, I want this match to be close.
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Sora and Andel both defeated me in the Summer Contest.58/62

Well Mario is slowing him... It only went by 8 that time (as of 8:44:59) and by 1 the previous time.

Mario needs to start the actual comeback, though.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

... Well he was. ;>_>

What time did MC really start gaining?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

My bracket is happy, but my insides are sad.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 60/64, Next Winner: Link

Crono had 50.56% of the vote last update, compared to 51.54% the previous update and 54.20% the update before that.

Please start a comeback Mario. =(

And wow at Link's prediction percentage. O_o 94.05% have him in the fourth round? Wow. Think we'll see another case of Cloud one-upping Link's prediction percentage?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Doubtful. Squall has a lot of fans.

As for today's match, we're already in the section of the voting in which Nintendo dominates. I see nothing from Mario but occasional periods in which he goes 50-50 with Crono, and every time Mario manages to stall, Crono gains 100 votes. He's already nearing 1900 votes.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

As for today's match, we're already in the section of the voting in which Nintendo dominates. I see nothing from Mario but occasional periods in which he goes 50-50 with Crono, and every time Mario manages to stall, Crono gains 100 votes. He's already nearing 1900 votes.

Being realistic about the situation makes me sad.

*continues hoping there will be some sort of comeback*

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

This match reminds me of Link vs Cloud last year. All through the match, everyone kept talking about how there would be an imminent comeback.

Meanwhile, Cloud beat the living snot of Link from pillar to post all through the match, and despite every attempt Link made to come back, Cloud kept increasing his lead all the way until the end.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

But wasn't Link vs. Cloud before school began? There's a huge difference here.

If anything the pattern will look like Frog/MC. A LOT of similarities: a CT character vs. a character that's usually very strong with the day vote.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Comparison: At this point in the poll, Frog's lead was around 2100, vs. 1900 for Crono. Frog hit his peak at 14:15 Eastern.

The next three hours will be crucial if Mario wants to go anywhere.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Meanwhile, Cloud beat the living snot of Link from pillar to post all through the match, and despite every attempt Link made to come back, Cloud kept increasing his lead all the way until the end.

Didn't it stall for at around 2000 during the morning vote before the afternoon and night vote swelled his lead to the 4700+ total?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Exactly, Mumei. The lead totally stalled during the day vote. And it was obviously the "regular" day vote, not the "after school" day vote. When I woke up the lead was 2000, and it stayed there for what seemed like forever.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Link still couldn't actually mount a comeback, though.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

But at least he stalled the lead. Cloud is one of a few Square characters that will fare decent with the day vote.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Crono on Link

Crono [Conker] 41.21%
Crono [Mario] 40.64%

Looks like Crono may have gotten a boost since last year, judging by those numbers. The lead is just short of 2000, which seems like an awful lot to come back from, even for Mario.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

And on the other side of the coin, if Crono didn't move Mario is looking like Snake and Sonic.

But the percentage will likely go down. Crono will win most likely, but not with that 53%.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

I just honestly don't see a comeback..

Mario's not what he used to be, popularity wise. Even with the youngsters who may make an impact.

You could say the same for Nintendo as a whole. Link might be able to overcome the company's reputation in this contest but personally I don't think he'll win either.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Nintendo's always been a powerhouse with the day vote. Why would it change between 2003 and 2004, out of all the years? And why in one fell swoop?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

And voilą, 2000 votes less than 10 hours in.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

What Nintendo game would people need a FAQ for at the moment?

-Dabu

Think fast. Click faster.

I don't think you can blame this on Nintendo as a whole. Look at what Link and Samus have done so far. Mario just isn't as respected anymore, since Nintendo hasn't done all that much with him since SM64. At least compared to Link (OoT, MM, WW, Oracles, even SCII) or Samus (Prime, Fusion, Zero Mission). Mario has SMS this generation, plus a bunch of party games, and it's just not enough. I love the guy, but SM128 really needs to be a blockbuster to get him popular again.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Nintendo's always been a powerhouse with the day vote. Why would it change between 2003 and 2004, out of all the years? And why in one fell swoop?

Not one fell swoop, but a gradual decline over the years.

Makes me think if the Summer contests existed since the start of this site-2001, that Nintendo characters may have dominated.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

What Nintendo game would people need a FAQ for at the moment?


Pokemon.
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Current Contest Score: 57/64
Picks: Link, Mario, Megaman, Snake, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, Samus

What Nintendo game would people need a FAQ for at the moment?


Pokemon.

Yea, but the only Pokemon that might have a shot at succeding in this contest is Mewtwo.

I don't know if you would count Tales of Symphonia, but it is a Nintendo exclusive. Again, I doubt that any of those characters might have a shot. Kratos, Lloyd, and Sheena could be the only three I could see in the contest as a double digit seed. Raine Sage? Sure, I'm a fanboy :D, but realistically she's got no shot.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I'm back now, with a new uber-fast university internet connection, and it's good to see that the last of my coin-toss/dubious picks before Cloud-Seph is coming good at the moment. Will catch up later.
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Jon Thomson - today: Crono, tomorrow: Mega Man - 60/68
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

*stays calm about Mario losing* It's not over by any means...lookin' worse and worse, but we know the history between the two. I'm not gonna let myself get worried until I go to bed tonight.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Crono can't go far above 2000... mayhap a stall lurks nigh?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Just wait until the kiddies come home from school!
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

The gap seems to have been stalled...

hopefully mario will keep it close until the day vote kicks in.
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Current Contest Score: 57/64
Picks: Link, Mario, Megaman, Snake, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, Samus

That's what I've been saying for, like, forever. If this plays out like Frog/MC, we will have the most whining EVER on a Mario/Crono match... and the match won't even be over.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

I got Crono by 4,850 in the prophet challenge. If this pace keeps up.. I might have a shot at winning! For the sake of the prophet challenge I hope it doesn't stall :P

But it is kinda sad to see Mario go down like this. One poster pointed out that Nintendo hasn't done for him this generation(SMS, Mario Golf, M&L:SS, Countless Mario Party games, Paper Mario), as they did for Link and Samus, and he might be right. It's not so much that Crono got stronger, though he has, there's no question.. it's just as much that Mario has stagnated and even lost popularity.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Not only that, but if Nintendo really intends to make the big turn towards the new reality, Link and Samus will be Nintendo's future, essentially leaving Mario in the dust.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

And what may I ask is so bad about Mario and Luigi?
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"Yoshi!!!"--Yoshi

Mario hits 47% for the first time. About damn time.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

I meant the game in case it wasn't obvious.
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"Yoshi!!!"--Yoshi

Crono appears to have a 2000 vote lead, and he moved up a little after I refreshed.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

If they do Mario 128 right, then Mario will be the one leaving the dust.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Well, this match is over. Theres no way Mario is commin back. The kiddies influence arn't half as strong as the influenced 6 hrs after they all go to sleep for the night.(9PM-3AM). Tis over. The other mario vs crono matches in the past were much closer.
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

Yeah, Crono is actually gaining...
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Not only that, but if Nintendo really intends to make the big turn towards the new reality, Link and Samus will be Nintendo's future, essentially leaving Mario in the dust.

I disagree. Mario is way more popular than both Link and Samus (in real life), and he sells more than both combined, I believe.

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"Samba is the father of pleasure,
samba is the child of pain"

Wind Waker and Metroid Prime outsold SMS a good deal, I believe. The salad days of franchises the likes of Mario are gone.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Well this morning, Crono was only up by 700. Now hes up by 2000, while the % hasn't changed that much, the totals have and that makes a massive difference. Theres no way Mario is comming back from a 2000 point deficit. Bye-bye.
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

Yes, Mario is more well known by people who don't actually play games, but the people who are buying games now seem to be turning towards Link much more than Mario. Mario will never stop being their big seller, but Nintendo's other franchises look to close the gap.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Crono is running head first towards 2100.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Good. I think Mario is prehaps the lamest gaming icon in existance. And I'm 19, so I was around when mario was big.
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

It's stayed around 2070 for a loooong time now.

Theres no way Mario is comming back from a 2000 point deficit.

Hath thy memory failed thee this quicketh?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

The kiddies are nnot going to push Mario up by 2100. Ill talk to you at 8pm when they stop voting. Crono will still be up by 2100.
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

Wind Waker and Metroid Prime outsold SMS a good deal, I believe. The salad days of franchises the likes of Mario are gone.

No way.

http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~hokora/gcranka.html

Wind Waker outsold SMS in Japan, but that's it.

SMS: 1,544,352
WW: 1,484,179
MP: 1,167,703


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"Yoshi!!!"--Yoshi

You're going to be surprised by this, but Master Chief stopped his big push at around 10:30 PM. That leaves 7-8 hours for Mario to do his thing. If he can do as well as Chief did, that is.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

"It's stayed around 2070 for a loooong time now."

I shouldn't have to explain stalls to you of all people. ;)
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Let us pray he will, for great justice.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

My point still stands. The days where a Mario game could sell in the 8 digits and keep up with the actual console's sales for two full years are OVA.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Well, now he did it. 2100, and still trailing by 150-200 against Frog.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Personally, I have been waiting for this day for a while. After Crono wins, it will finally put everyone and their adament "There was no SFF in Mario/Link" to rest when Link beats Crono 51/49.
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

I don't think so, Slow. The right system with the right Mario game (at launch!) could do it all again with ease.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

51/49? You think a 51/49 win proves anything?

Some people are too easily convinced, I swear. And hey, let's just watch what Crono can do against Link before jumping to conclusions, OK?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

"when Link beats Crono 51/49."

LOL. Thanks, that gave me a good laugh. Crono will be lucky to get link under 60%. Very lucky.
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Current Contest Score: 57/64
Picks: Link, Mario, Megaman, Snake, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, Samus

Personally, I have been waiting for this day for a while. After Crono wins, it will finally put everyone and their adament "There was no SFF in Mario/Link" to rest when Link beats Crono 51/49.

If I'm not mistaken, Mario did about as well against Sephiroth last year as Crono would have been expected to do.

I don't think so, Slow. The right system with the right Mario game (at launch!) could do it all again with ease.

Agreed, but it has to be Mario 128, or else it'll be too late. You can't wait until the system after next, or Mario's gonna be more known as the golfer who drives go-karts than the plumber who kicks turtle-shelled ass.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Yes, I think a 51/49 win would prove a LOT. That's fricking amazing against Link for someone who was so far behind previously.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Of course, 51/49 won't happen. But I don't see how you could say that doesn't prove anything...
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

51/49 doesn't prove anything? Oy vey... if I am not mistaken, that would be a good 10% better than Mario got, otherwise known as well outside of, I would assume, even a third standard deviation from statistical analysis.

And to the person who thinks, for some ungodly reason, that Crono will have a hard time getting under 60% on Link, care to put your signature where your mouth is?
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

If I didn't have to keep this sig until the end of the contest, I would; I think Crono would get just below 40%, personally.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

I think Slow misread that as saying a 51/49 win in favor of Crono over Mario.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Mario is defeated...Snake is next. The Chrono Trigger fans are going to pull through for me twice!
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Steve Illumina: The Elite Satirist of GameFAQ's
Scores Above Me: 318 SC2K4: 67/72 (Go FROG!)

I'll be really disappointed if Crono doesn't break 45% on Link.

-Dabu

Think fast. Click faster.

...and I obviously meant to say Crono would have a hard time keeping Link to under 60%. And Chichiri, I sure hope that is what he thought I meant. Because anyone thinking (no matter how improbable one may think it is) that Crono doing 10% better than Mario did doesn't prove anything borders on dillusional.
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

If these results stand, I'm looking at 41-42% for Crono against Link.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Well, Slow has never known to be someone who is delusional.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

I think Crono will do surprisingly well against Link. I was tempted to go for broke and call a Crono/Link upset, but I figured my bracket was sufficiently doomed as it was. As it turns out, I was right, of course. Still, it wouldn't completely surprise me to see Crono make it close. I mean, he's up by nearly 2300 on Mario and doesn't show signs of slowing down yet. Of course, it is a school day, and the wrath of the kiddies may yet turn the outcome of this match, but if Crono continues to do this well, I think he gets too close for comfort to Link.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

"but I figured my bracket was sufficiently doomed as it was."

That is precisely when you take the big, unlikely risk. If you can't win with the safe bet you might as well try an upset.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

^See, I'd already done that by calling Jak over not just Ness but Auron. I figured calling two ridiculous upsets was just asking to be smited by the Gods of the contest. :P
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

To think that Mario's best hope is to pull a Master Chief probably seals his fate right then and there.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I tried to tell people Jak wasn't going to win anything, those who listened were rewarded.

Besides, even if you had got that upset correct it wasn't big enough to win anything for you. If you're banking on an upset it needs to be big.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Sorry buddy, but this match is so completly over. It's time to move on and look at the future matches. It was a gap of 2100 about an hour ago, now its 2300. You figure it out. Thats 1 hour mario worked on crono and all he did was lose another 10%. Bad. Bad. Bad.
Also for link vs crono. I dont think you are giving crono enough credit. link hasn't been that successful in these contests. This is a squaresoft favored website, and I think Crono has a pretty good chance against Link.
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

Twenty. Three. Hundred. Votes. The only chance Mario has right now is a link from a major Nintendo website, but I'm fairly certain that CJayC's bashing of PGCN two years ago will lessen the possibility of that happening.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Remember that the past two Mario-Crono battles weren't decided until the final hour. Give this time guys, give this time.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Yeah, this match is little more than Link vs Cloud, the Diet Coke version. People will be talking about a Mario comeback that won't happen all day.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

link hasn't been that successful in these contests

Um... what?
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

link hasn't been that successful in these contests

Well yeah, other than that one he WON!!!
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"Yoshi!!!"--Yoshi

My point still stands. The days where a Mario game could sell in the 8 digits and keep up with the actual console's sales for two full years are OVA.

They are over until Nintendo makes another really good Mario game, such as SM64. SMS just doesn't compare to the other Super Mario titles, both in sales and quality.
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"Samba is the father of pleasure,
samba is the child of pain"

Okay, Mario needs to start coming back NOW!! or he has no chance.
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"Yoshi!!!"--Yoshi

We've never had a Mario vs. Crono during the School year though. If by 12:00 Gamefaqs time the lead hasn't started going down, it'll be time for Mario to admit defeat, but until then I'm not calling the match over yet. And in case you're wondering who's side I'm on, I picked and voted for Crono.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

It's amazing how quickly people forget about 2k2. I've heard complaints about Square/Cloud always winning forever, now Link isn't that successful in these contests? Simply stunning.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Assumimg Crono wins... I just hope he can at least break 45% on Link but that's really a long stretch...

My guess:
58.5% Link
41.5% Crono

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Oh, and what happened to the Top 10 lists?
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Okay Crono, you can slow down now!

Keep up the win by 4,850 pace :P

I say this does improve Crono's chances against Link.. I still think it'll be closer than 58-42.. much closer.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Crono can't slow down yet, he's barely ahead of Frog's peak.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

What is the biggest comeback ever completed?

I know Duck Hunt shaved off some 3000 votes, but it came up short. Was it Starcraft vs. Wind Waker?
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

We are past the point of any previously successful return. Mario is amazing, however, and if anybody could make a new record for successful come back it'd be him... though I doubt a new record will be made.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

I want Mario to pull the comeback but then I don't want to see another Link vs. Mario match... Actually, i would prefer it if Mario wins the whole dang contest but that ain't gonna happen.. Oh well.. On to Link vs. Crono which would be more interesting so I hope Crono will prevail..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

it's over....it's done.....sigh....

Mario is beaten.... :(
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

Truthfully.. I think Mario deserves to win this contest more than anyone else!!! .. But that's just my opinion..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Crono is still going up. This is certainly a savage beating, if this sort of action holds through the night I will declare this an outrigth massacre based on the standards of previous MvCs.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Incredible. Crono seems ot be gaining strength as schools let out on the east coast.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Crono 53.1% 21382
Mario 46.9% 18882
TOTAL VOTES 40264

2500 votes. Go ahead, explain to me how Mario will come back from that.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

You know, despite the match picture being on Mario's home turf, the picture advantage has to go to Crono. He gets his battle sprite, while Mario gets his horrid SMW sprite.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Mario won't. The lord must be up there, thank you God.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Yeah, Mario definitely deserves to win this contest at least once.
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

The stall took him under 2500.

I will say this is impressive, however, let us not forget that the day vote starts in half an hour.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Under 2500? It was 2510 at my last check, and this is little more than Mario stalling every time Crono gains 100 votes on him.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I can't even express how happy I am. Does the last perfect have Crono or Mario? Either way I'm guaranteed to advance a couple spots!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

I cant wait to see how many people picked Mario, definitly the casual bracket will have chosen Mario.

Also, I cant wait to see Heroic Marios expression...where is he anyway?
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Score:62/68 Todays Pick:CRONO
Token Regis Philbin of Board 8

ou know, despite the match picture being on Mario's home turf, the picture advantage has to go to Crono. He gets his battle sprite, while Mario gets his horrid SMW sprite.

That and Crono looks like he's about to impale a charging Mario...
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Hiding under a rock, or probably at school... if he indeed goes to school, I wouldn't know since I don't know his age.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Ahahahahahahhahahahah! At last, we shall revenge...

This is brutality. If Mario makes this comeback, I will go insane.
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"Now I know I'm being watched, how creepy is that... I owe a major apology to the locker room girls after second period gym."- Yusuke Urameshi

If Mario makes this comeback, me thinks the moderators are going to wish they were on vacation.
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

I was so happy after checking the score in 8th period, I raced home in my car happy again because I made another awesome pick!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Crono's nearing 2600. I would never have dreamed Crono could actually win the school vote.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

I SERIOUSLY hope for an afterschool mario vote.
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!"
black mage, 8-bit theater

Now that this match officially destroys any chance of me finishing in the top 10, I'll be rooting for a Link/Samus final with Samus winning since Link doesn't need to win again.
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

Oh baby!!! I can't believe how many close matches and hard to call matches I've pulled off, thank goodness. If Crono holds on then Cloud/Seph is the deciding match if I indeed go perfect aside from my 2 round 1 flaws. If Cloud beats him he won't repeat over Link, if Seph wins Link is in big trouble and my bracket is decimated, but hey it was fun getting this high up anyway! I'm happy enough :)
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

This poll just goes to show you how few European gamers there are at this board in comparison to American players, considering the fact that Chrono Trigger was never even released here in Europe. Mario on the other hand is the world's biggest video game icon, and still, Crono is winning.
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"When did ignorance become a point of view?" //Dilbert

Perhaps I spoke too soon. Crono is dropped .05% and 40 votes in the last 7 minutes.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Who cares, if you were indeed around since 02 you would know it would be extremely close this year. I picked Mario in 02 and 03 and switched to Crono this year believing in revenge. Hell it happened!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

I'll be rooting for a Link/Samus final with Samus winning since Link doesn't need to win again.

Have you forgotten what happens when a Nintendo char dares to challenge their master Link?

Look at Ganon, Yoshi, or even Mario!!
Only Square chars can pose a threat to Link.

If Samus beats Cloud/Sephy, Link has the whole contest in the bag already.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

This is such a happy day. I just pray 3 AM *I'm eastern time* roles around soon so Crono wins!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Oh, I KNOW that Samus has a next to nothing chance of winning, it's just be nice to see nonetheless.
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

I hope mario's comeback starts real soon...


And I would like to see mega man/samus if crono wins today, so i'll be voting AGAINST my bracket.

You heard me.
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!"
black mage, 8-bit theater

Dreams don't come true for you much do they?
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

This sucks.


Sure, I got my 4 points, but at what cost? Poor Mario....he will be out for blood next year. Of course, barring a MASSIVE comeback.

It would be the greatest contest day EVER if Mario can turn this one around. I would give my bracket to see it.
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Lots of people vote against their bracket. I have even done it a few times. Fortunately though, one of those times was not in the Frog/MC match. Heh, or else he would have only won by 5 votes instead of 7 =)
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

If Samus beats Cloud/Sephy, Link has the whole contest in the bag already.

You forgot about the part where Mega Man beats Link.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Cloud/Sephiroth will hopefully be more entertaining than this is....

Atleast we know the finals will be awesome.
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

It won't happen RPG guy, not after Seph destroyed Mega and Link is on his level. Not a chance, you keep dreaming and listening to HM.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

You forgot about the part where Mega Man beats Link.

Assuming Tidus hasn't decreased, MM still doesn't have what it takes to bring down Link.

After being proven wrong time after time, HM's predictions are pretty much pipe dreams of a fan.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

^ excellent call my friend.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Assuming Tidus hasn't decreased, MM still doesn't have what it takes to bring down Link.

After being proven wrong time after time, HM's predictions are pretty much pipe dreams of a fan.

He was spot on in Mega/Tidus, if you recall. And what is it with all these people defending Clinkeroth as if they are gods? 48.67% against Link based on Tidus is damn impressive, especially considering Tidus and Shadow could very well have increased due to FFX-2 and Sonic Heroes, respectively.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

No, Mega Man is a pawn in Link's way, you'll see it then cry 'fanboys' and shutup like everyone else.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Me? I adore Zelda games, and normally vote for Link. I'm more of a Zelda fanboy than anything save Tales. I've only recently gotten into Mega Man, but I love what I've played so far (1-8, X-X4).
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Is it just me or is the poll down?
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Alright then, I love all those games too, they are seriously classic and Mega Man does pwn, but his later games are bad and his voice acting in some of them makes me want to break the TV. My vote goes to Link.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Front page, poll, everything besides the boards.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

...

Well, I guess we can't have a MvC match without something weird happening.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

*waves WTF flag*

REPOLL! REPOLL I SAY!
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

It's back up, now Crono shall rule!!!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Hey RPGuy, don't play X5-7. Seriously, they are the low-points of the X series. Rent or borrow if you absolutely must play them.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
66/68/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

Yeah, I'm told they aren't very good, and even that playing X7 will make one physically ill. But I'll probably acquire them somehow and play through them anyway.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Yea listen to Torso, better yet DON'T play them. It will crush your heart. Play Mega Man Legends 1-2 they aren't so bad and are quite well done if you ask me.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Obviously, with the school now coming to a close in the Eastern Standard Timezone and with the remainder of the North American timezones following suit, if Mario is to make a comeback, it would have to start soon.

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Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo merge to create...Microtendony!
"When the president does it, that means it is not illegal." - Richard Nixon

How much was Mario down in 03 at the most?
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Mario bargained with the devil, and now he's paying the price...
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 68/72
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Crono with 50%

How much was Mario down in 03 at the most?

822

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Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo merge to create...Microtendony!
"When the president does it, that means it is not illegal." - Richard Nixon

see your down 2700 now. NOW WHAT!!!!????
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

Thank you.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

So, does Mario get the turd of the round award?
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Vote in my Pseudo SpC2K5 bracket: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16365401
Feat: Metroid, Xenosaga, FF3/6, W. Waker, GTA: VC

2800, Gawd.

Now allow me to do my best SurfingVaporeon impression.

*cough*

MARIO!!!!!1!!11111!!!!!!!!!1111!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!111!!!!11111111!!!!!

Well, at least I'll get to see a character I like completely destroy Crono next round for a change.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Heh, you damn right Slowflake. I wonder what place I'll be in? I can't wait to see. :)
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Well, at least next round we'll see how truly powerful Link is. Championship material, most likely.

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Current Contest Score: 57/64
Picks: Link, Mario, Megaman, Snake, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, Samus

The turd of the round will likely be either Mario, Frog, or Sora.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Undoubtedly championship material.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

The scores still haven't been fixed yet...

Anyway, does anybody know what Mario and Crono were projected to get on Link based on the XS?
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
66/68/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

It'll be Sora.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

And Crono passes 2800.

Comeback, my ass. This match is over.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Me thinks it will be Squall. 'Specially after Cloud hangs up 77% on him.
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

I agree with Ulti..stick a fork in him. Hes gone.
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Score:62/68 Todays Pick:CRONO
Token Regis Philbin of Board 8

It's gonna be Mario for sure. Unless Frog gets, like, 30%, and/or Sora gets tripled. Nothing, NOTHING can match the disappointment Mario's being today.

I needn't mention that should Crono win by over 4000 votes in the end, this'll make this semifinal match of Chrono Trigger's all the more lackluster.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Why is that? Mario 3 is obviously a lot more popular than Mario is.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Sora gets tripled.

Count on it. Well, 70%, at least.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

This match has been such a dud that I've actually been playing games on my day off.

Heh, yeah, a gamer playing games. Who would have thought?

I'm in the middle of beating Super Metroid yet again, but I'm taking a small break. I don't like the Sunken Ship or Miridia all that much, though what comes afterwards is nothing short of golden.

LOWER. NORFAIR. I friggen love that place. The level itself, the music, and the boss are all orgasmic.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I have always doubted that, Ulti.

This is a totally flawless performance by Crono. Mario won TWO updates. That's it.

This makes FF7/OoT look exciting.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Great to see Crono owning this match, and doing well with the Eastern after school vote.

Only battle.net can save Mario now.
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In America, men flirt with women. In Shinra Midgar, Don Corneo flirts with YOU!
SC2K4.com/Frog

This sucks... Mario's my biggest disappointment so far. I at least thought he'd make it by within a thousand. Meh... I hope Link slaughters Crono, and makes it look ugly.
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Sc2k4: Rd. 1: 30/32, Rd. 2: 30/32, Rd. 3: 4/4
My winner: Sephiroth, My next pick: Mario

Hey, CN, check your mail! I'd explain, but I have a class at 4. Ta!
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Agreed. Lower Norfair is the best part about that game. Bringing the music back in Prime was nothing short of genius, too.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Here's a thought. Check out the poll of the day. Most people seem not to care about the contest much anymore, which could mean that most people are voting for their favorite character rather than their bracket.

Could this mean that Crono was actually the more popular character all along?
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

2,800 or not, this is Mario/Crono guys. Mario still won the last two times, Mario still came back the last two times, and Mario still won with some amazing controversy the last two times. Crono can get a 8,000-vote lead, but I will not call this match until the final hour.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Are you CRAZY? Duck Hunt had already been coming back for hours at this point.

It's. OVER. No amount of clutch boost can save Mario now.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

And Wind Waker was still gaining on Starcraft at this point.

Hiya Ex!!! Are you hiding because you don't want me to say

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

I'm not sayin' he'll come back, but I will NOT give it to Crono unless it hits 2 A.M. here and he's still dominating, and I'll likely be asleep by then.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Wind Waker never led by nearly 3000. IT'S. OVER.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Slowflake is trying that stupid reverse stuff agian, but he'll fail.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Mario doesn't have a large resource to tap into such as Battle.net.

again*
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

If Mario had the mass koreans to count on come nighttime, he would have a chance. But at best he has mass cheaters, and mass cheaters=instant CJayC topic.
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

I'm being serious. Why can't I ever be?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Hey now, I'm here with full anti-curse powers. I nullified that long ago.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I said it before, and I'll say it again: When people saw CT make it to the finals in the spring contest, many of them said, "Wow, if that game is really that good, I should go and play it." Subsequently, they downloaded the ROM, played it, and loved it. Of course, not everyone who played it loved it, but enough people decided to play it and ended up loving it to change their vote to Crono, and only a few hundred people would need to do that to give Crono a significant edge. Who knows what other factors are involved, but that factor is certainly existant. I'll call it the WCTDVWSMISPIF, i.e. the Wow, Chrono Trigger Did Very Well So Maybe I Should Play It Factor.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Heh, sorry Slowflake.

Yea that factor probably exists.

*Bows to Ulti's purification powers*

Time to cut the grass, be on later.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

2,900 mark is broken. Scary thought is that Crono could break 5,000 before this match is over at this rate..
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Oddly enough, Slowflake is an example of one of those people. I don't think he likes Crono much, but he did play CT after the Spring Contest.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Erm, my dad said to wait another 20 minutes so I'm still around, how lucky you all are. Anyway Ulti, if you wanna talk on AIM *I doubt you do but it's worth the shot* Add SwiftyD16 to your buddy list and IM me, thx alot.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Mario is doing terrible. Not only is he getting the turd of the round, he's in big danger of becoming a 3-seed next year.
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Vote in my Pseudo SpC2K5 bracket: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16365401
Feat: Metroid, Xenosaga, FF3/6, W. Waker, GTA: VC

Crono closing in on 3k.

What a depressing match...
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

If Mario gets a 3 seed, Sonic should get the 2 seed in the same division. Not only would that follow with the screwed up seedings we've had in previous years but will give us a fresh and long awaited matchup in the Sweet 16.

If CJayC goes for another obvious Mario/Crono matchup next year, something is wrong.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Not after the Spring Contest. After SC2K3, to be correct.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Deficit is nearing 3000 now. Looks like one of the most anticipated matches pre-contest is a bust, especially considering some of the victories we've had so far.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Yes, Mario vs. Sonic is looooong overdue.
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

I would ideally also have Megaman be the #1 in that division with Sonic and Mario and to the division just south of that, Samus #1 and Crono #2. That way, if Mario/Crono IV *does* happen, those two will have had to earn their way to the match against competition that stands a legit chance of beating them.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

*kicks Mario*

Stupid piece of crap.
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There's an old saying in Texas... fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again. - Dubya

Let's not count the chickens until they hatch, ok? We don't know if it's Crono who became stronger or Mario who became weaker, but that's what the next round is for.

If Crono busts next round though, CJayC better set up that Sonic/Mario match next year. With Mario as the 2-seed, though, if only for the benefit of the doubt. Sonic has been consistently on the level where he is, Mario wasn't. Assuming Crono busts next round of course.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Moltar's First Thoughts on: Crono vs. Mario

Woke up, Crono was winning by EXACTLY 1000 votes. Come back home, Crono is winning by almost 3000 votes.

Boring re-cap for a boring match. Mario better be planning some serious **** for later...
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

He isn't Crono won.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Mario vs Sonic would go in the way of Mario, and wouldn't be worth seeing. I'd rather see Magus vs Mario.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'd rather see Magus/Sonic.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Magus would lose both matches.
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

Ulti, I'm assuming your favorite Super Metroid boss is Ridley. Mine is Phantoon.

You should give Metroid Prime a try, if you haven't already. That and SM are easily the two best games in the series. In my opinion, Prime is better. And wait till you see Ridley in THAT game.

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*is Lucid Faia*
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful. Vigorous, irresistable. Dominating, Invincible. Overwhelming, Unquenchable.

Heh figured you wouldn't want to. Oh well worth the shot.

Mario vs Sonic would be interesting as would Crono vs Cloud perhaps maybe even Crono vs Auron/Squall.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

I'd like to see a Crono/Tidus-or-Aeris match, if we're talkin' Crono/FF-character matches.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Don't check yet, but...

2004-09-20 13:10:37 26495 23554 52.94% 47.06% 2941
2004-09-20 13:10:26 26485 23545 52.94% 47.06% 2940
2004-09-20 13:08:41 26398 23457 52.95% 47.05% 2941
2004-09-20 13:08:28 26392 23448 52.95% 47.05% 2944
2004-09-20 13:07:17 26325 23381 52.96% 47.04% 2944
2004-09-20 13:07:05 26314 23369 52.96% 47.04% 2945
2004-09-20 13:07:00 26311 23366 52.96% 47.04% 2945
2004-09-20 13:06:03 26268 23322 52.97% 47.03% 2946
2004-09-20 13:04:42 26198 23267 52.96% 47.04% 2931
2004-09-20 13:04:31 26183 23262 52.95% 47.05% 2921
2004-09-20 13:04:22 26177 23255 52.96% 47.04% 2922
2004-09-20 13:02:11 26078 23151 52.97% 47.03% 2927
2004-09-20 13:01:36 26047 23110 52.99% 47.01% 2937
2004-09-20 13:00:07 25965 23039 52.99% 47.01% 2926
2004-09-20 12:59:58 25960 23032 52.99% 47.01% 2928
2004-09-20 12:59:54 25957 23030 52.99% 47.01% 2927
2004-09-20 12:59:50 25951 23025 52.99% 47.01% 2926
2004-09-20 12:59:46 25947 23020 52.99% 47.01% 2927
2004-09-20 12:59:19 25926 22998 52.99% 47.01% 2928
2004-09-20 12:57:24 25820 22878 53.02% 46.98% 2942
2004-09-20 12:54:54 25688 22747 53.04% 46.96% 2941

Congratulations Mario. You've finally done it.

9 HOURS TOO LATE.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

You know what would be really nice? Mario vs Samus or Link vs Seph then going to Cloud RIGHT AFTER THAT, or the other way around. MM vs Samus would be fun too, but just not this year.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

From: Deflagratio | Posted: 9/20/2004 4:07:48 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, I'm assuming your favorite Super Metroid boss is Ridley. Mine is Phantoon.

I loathe Phantoon, and his entire Miridia along with him.

You should give Metroid Prime a try, if you haven't already.

I have a save file at the very beginning of the Chozo Ruins, so I haven't done much yet. I have watched a speed run of the game though, and it looks amazing.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

*still calmly waits through-out the match*
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

The boss of the Maridia area is Draygon. Phantoon is the... thing... you fight in the Wrecked Ship. I just think he looks cool. But I didn't really care for the ship itself or for Maridia either.

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*is Lucid Faia*
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful. Vigorous, irresistable. Dominating, Invincible. Overwhelming, Unquenchable.

Slowflake, this has been happening all day. Mario's best effort has been to go 50-50 with Crono before giving up another 100 votes. Crono's fans obviously cared about this match more.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

And good for the Crono fans!! :)

Ulti what's your score?
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

But none of these stalls lasted 20 minutes, did they?

To the exception of the two updates Mario won tonight, but Crono struck back harder anyway.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

So what does everyone assumed has happened? Do you think Mario has fell or Crono has increased?

Or do you think Crono fans are just trying extra hard in this match and this one alone...
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

I have Crono beating Link in the next round by a very slim margin(115 votes, I predict, I'll have it ready for Prophet Challenge). I do acknowledge, though, that in order for Crono to have a shot at winning, he's gotta beat Mario by 5000+ votes. I think he can pull it off this year, he's well on his way to doing so. Screw the day vote :P


Actually, he'd have to beat Mario more than 60-40. Sephiroth did this last year, and he was still a bit weaker than Link.

I'm leaning towards that last one, Moltar. Or at least I would be, if the lead weren't so darn huge.

...I don't know. I really don't know.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

Crono fans trying harder. I don't see how Crono fans could have gained many new fans, nor do I see how Mario could have lost many old fans.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

It took 2 years for people to get tired of the same result, which is why I believe Mario is losing this match. It's simply turn around votes that took place from 02 > 03 > 04 that pwned him. It's the same reason I believe Seph can't beat Cloud. I think it'll take at least 2 years, even with Cloud's anti votes. Although that's I match of the 4 recent tight one's I have been worried about immensely.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

Well, I guess we'll find out next round.

Link is projected to get 38.14% on Crono next round. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Crono broke 40% on Link though.

At least we finally find out strong the characters in this SFF division are.
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

There's one thing that continuously plagues my heart though, what is the normal vote total usually in the 04 contest at this time.... because if Crono loses because of *gasp* cheating I'll be so downed.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

It took 2 years for people to get tired of the same result, which is why I believe Mario is losing this match.

Ya know, weird enough, that could also explain a decent bit of Knuckles jump on Solid Snake, especially since it we all knew Knuckles would lose again anyways. At least here, people still care enough about their brackets to NOT do that just to spite previous results.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Wind Waker and Metroid Prime outsold SMS a good deal, I believe.

Hahahahaha...nope.

SMS sold just over 1.5M, WW just under. MP sold 1.15M. If SMS had actually been as good as either of those two, it would have sold way better than them. Zelda X will likely beat SMS, but until then, Mario's still the number 1 icon. Double Dash and SSBM are the only GC titles ahead of SMS, and Luigi's Mansion is only a bit behind WW.

I don't think you can explain it as Crono fans trying harder... if that were the case, the vote totals would have to be up. Crono has gained popularity relative to Mario, and I think he might have gained some on an absolute scale too.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 68/72
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Crono with 50%

Nobody ever answers me :(

What is the usual vote total for this time of day in 04 contest.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 62/64 Rank: 16th

It's over 3000 now, the magical un-comeback-able number. I declare Crono as teh winnar!
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

The magical uncomebackable number should be 3200. But he'll hit that eventually anyway.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

All I'm hoping for now is that Crono wins by 3999 votes.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Nobody ever answers me :(

What is the usual vote total for this time of day in 04 contest.

I don't know about the "usual", but the highest vote total match this contest (Tidus vs. Shadow) had 59,715 votes at 13:33:08. At the same time, Mario vs. Crono had 52,426 votes.

Yes, the match is a dud in more ways than one.

=/
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Heh, I'm probably gonna be makin' ya'll mad, but I will not be declaring any winner to this match until the final hour, and I'll likely be asleep by then.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

My prophet challenge was Crono by 6191. It looks like he's on pace to hit that.

Anyways, this contest discussion has got to be the second-longest series of topics in the history of GameFAQs. The only one that's longer that I know of is RI's Pikadeth's Playhouse. Of course, the largest single topic still goes to the 4145 post topic on LUE, a record that will never be broken.

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I am Lucid Faia.

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

My point still stands. The days where a Mario game could sell in the 8 digits and keep up with the actual console's sales for two full years are OVA.

You have no point. Super Mario Sunshine was released during the summer, that's the slowest time of the year in terms of when to sell a game. The fact that it didn't release with the console is one of the main reasons the sales aren't as high as you would think. Furthermore, the fact that it has still outsold, or broke even, with The Wind Waker speaks for itself. And I want you to name just how many games ever sell into the 8 digits.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I just noticed....there's ANOTHER POLL on today's main page, but it sort of blends in with the background. I guess then it's not too surprising that it only has 9536 votes. But, because of the importance of today's match, isn't it surprising the Mario fanboys aren't *****ing about how the other poll is messing up the results?
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Hey, Heroic Mario. Good to see you. Hey, remember last night, when you told me Mario would win by 900 votes, and I told you that Crono would kick Mario's ass this year?

Heh, I'm just kidding.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Er, well, the poll doesn't really blend into the background, but the rest of my post still stands.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

I'll be really disappointed if Crono doesn't break 45% on Link.

He'd be lucky to get around 40-41% much less 45%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Hm, like me, picked his favorite, and the better character to win. This = travesty. ;.;
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Sc2k4: Rd. 1: 30/32, Rd. 2: 30/32, Rd. 3: 4/4
My winner: Sephiroth, My next pick: Mario

20XX Division: Round 3 - Match 51 – (1)Mega Man vs. (4)Zero

Moltar’s Analysis

Mega Man - Will the real Mega Man please stand up?

Round 1 – vs. Earthworm Jim (Mega Man: 82.98% - Jim: 17.02%)
Round 2 – vs. Tidus (Mega Man: 64.78% - Tidus: 35.22%)

Mega Man was only projected to get 55.63% on Tidus. Very nice performance from the Blue Bomber here.

Zero - Where it all begins…

Round 1 – vs. Protoman (Zero: 71.72% - Protoman: 28.28%)
Round 2 – vs. Zero (Tommy: 38.16% – Zero: 61.84%)

Zero was projected to get 61.56% on Tommy, so this match wasn’t too far of. Zero did a decent job.

So Max did increase a little….anyway, Mega is obviously stronger this year, while Zero seems to be about the same strength. Also, our good friend Mr. SFF will come into play here, so this can’t be good for Zero, who’s already projected to get 43.12% on Mega without SFF.

Oh, and feel a little sorry for Protoman, he has become this year’s Pikachu…(Link SFF’d Fox, who SFF’d Pikachu; Mega SFF’d Zero, who SFF’d Protoman)

Moltar’s Bracket Says:Mega Man will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Mega Man 72% - Zero 28%



Ulti's Analysis

Another bad SFF match, and this late in the contest? Jesus.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Mega Man/Mega Man with 64.44%. Zelda may outperform Zero's performance, but that will solely be due to SFF.


Cena’s Analysis

Ok, this is an SFF match through and through, which sucks, because most of Zero's fans like Mega Man better, so it's damn obvious this won't even be close. I don't want to say that Zero's going to get owned, but he will. Nothing else to say, unfortunately.

Cena’s Vote: Mega Man

Cena’s Prediction: Mega Man with 74%

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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

No, Cloud actually winning one of these things is a travesty. Crono beating Mario isn't that big of a deal, when Mario's already won twice.

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I am Lucid Faia.

It won't happen RPG guy, not after Seph destroyed Mega and Link is on his level. Not a chance, you keep dreaming and listening to HM.

How lacking can you be on contest knowledge? You believe that just because Mega Man got killed last year by Sephiroth that the same thing will happen this year?! Why, your no better than the people who assume Mario would win because he's won twice before. Things change from year to year and Mega Man has already proven he's definitely on the level of Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth.

Assuming Tidus hasn't decreased, MM still doesn't have what it takes to bring down Link.

Why would Tidus decrease? Please, explain why he would suddenly decrease from the previous year after no other Final Fantasy character showed any signs of decreasing.

After being proven wrong time after time, HM's predictions are pretty much pipe dreams of a fan.

How have I been proven wrong time after time? I've missed two matches thus far and have been off slightly on a few predictions while nailing plenty of others.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Couple of thoughts:

If they go back to the N/S/E/W format for SC2K5.. Mario gets dropped to a #3 seed and Crono becomes a #1.

I'd say the #1 seeds for next year could be: Link/Cloud/Crono/(Sephiroth, Mega Man or Samus - I'd lean towards Sephiroth personally).

If they keep the same format that was used this year, I wouldn't seed Crono lower than Mario. Crono was underseeded this year, IMO. Heck, keep 'em away from each other next year. Mario, at best, should be an equal seed to Crono. Link and Mario in the same backet, Cloud and Sephiroth, Crono and Megaman(or Sonic?).. that'd work for me.

Also, the 'kiddie' vote, as it relates to helping Nintendo characters, is kind of overrated to me. I would tend to think kids would go for something cooler, or whatever looks cooler, if they're not familiar with the characters. Crono looks(and is) cooler than Mario, so naturally they would go for him. Pokemon is still popular amongst children, though it's true that it's not as popular as it once was. The kiddie vote never helped Pikachu, that's for sure.

However, there is a lot of irony in my point about the kiddie vote and how I'd feel it would lean towards whatever's cooler. To kids, I'd say Grand Theft Auto is the epitome of cool, being that it's a 'mature' game.. but Tommy Vercetti hasn't won a contest, nor even come close. There'd never be a Tommy Vercetti/Pikachu finals matchup in a Summer contest.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Hey, Heroic Mario. Good to see you. Hey, remember last night, when you told me Mario would win by 900 votes, and I told you that Crono would kick Mario's ass this year?

Honestly, I've never been that hyped up about this match. I said it many times before that I don't want to see it again and that I wanted it to be over as quickly as possible. Crono winning today sucks for my personal preference and bracket, but other than that I'm not really that bothered.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

speaking of mega man vs. zero:
what effect will it have if the picture does turn out to be mega man x vs. zero?

i don't think it would let zero win...but i think it might up his vote totals.
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redline15: blasting off at the speed of light

Hiding under a rock, or probably at school... if he indeed goes to school, I wouldn't know since I don't know his age.

I had work today and college throughout the week. A mixture of the two basically.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I know, HM, just messing with you.

Anyways, assuming we go back to directional divisions next year, we could see Link, Cloud, Crono, and Mega Man/Samus as 1 seeds, with Sephiroth and Mega Man/Samus being two seeds.

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I am Lucid Faia.

speaking of mega man vs. zero:
what effect will it have if the picture does turn out to be mega man x vs. zero?

i don't think it would let zero win...but i think it might up his vote totals.

If anything I'd almost see a rise in Mega Man's votes. Many people seem to like the X sprite and/or character better than the original. Also, given that we've seen different sprites, most from the SNES, I'm definitely expecting X to finally make his appearance in a picture. One very, very badass picture. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Crono doesn't need a #1 seed. There are at least five others who should/would come first.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

If X's sprite was against Lttp ink's sprite, I'd so have trouble voting. MMX-X3 from SNES are some of my favorite games.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 66/68 Rank: 16th Picked Crono today

Link's*
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 66/68 Rank: 16th Picked Crono today

Things change from year to year and Mega Man has already proven he's definitely on the level of Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth.

Speaking of MM, Mega Man X: Command Mission is coming out tomorrow.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 64/68, Next Winner: Crono

I pick up my copy of it tomorrow too. ^_^
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I pick up my copy of it tomorrow too. ^_^

Tell us if it's any good. I might just say to heck with my gaming budget this month and pick it up; I think I deserve to after the disappointment that is Fable.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 64/68, Next Winner: Crono

Anyways, assuming we go back to directional divisions next year, we could see Link, Cloud, Crono, and Mega Man/Samus as 1 seeds, with Sephiroth and Mega Man/Samus being two seeds.

MegaMan would probably get the #1 seed over Samus, but I think there's a good chance it will be MegaMan and Samus rather then Crono. Despite his success so far against Mario, I don't consider him in the top 4 nor do I think he'll get the nominations necessary to put him into the Top 4. Though assuming he wins today, how he does against Link will be a big indicator of that.

At anyrate here we are in hour 2 of the after school vote. Crono's lead coming into it was about 2633 and despite losing some ground percentage wise he's managed to build on his lead to the 3154. Nothing I've seen so far in this match suggests to me that Mario can come back, but it's hard to ever count him out...

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"When the president does it, that means it is not illegal." - Richard Nixon

Heck, put up a pic of X wearing his entire armor set. That would be so awesome.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Anyways, assuming we go back to directional divisions next year, we could see Link, Cloud, Crono, and Mega Man/Samus as 1 seeds, with Sephiroth and Mega Man/Samus being two seeds.

No. Damn it, Sephiroth has earned his 1-seed, and why Ceej keeps denying him of it is beyond me.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 64/68, Next Winner: Crono

what effect will it have if the picture does turn out to be mega man x vs. zero?

I don't see it making much of a difference, but if it isn't X, then I don't see how Ceej can keep insisting that MM represents all the incarnations, and thus I'll be nominating X next year instead of Classic.
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1 seeds = Link, Cloud, Seph, Mega
2 seeds = Samus, Snake, Crono, Mario

And Sonic falls to 3 seed.

Now that's how it should be strength-wise, but nominations determine seeds...
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

And this is how it should be division-wise with the Noble Nine.

(1) Link
(2) Snake

(1) Cloud
(2) Crono

(1) Seph
(2) Samus

(1) Mega Man
(2) Mario
(3) Sonic
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

Heh, hopefully tomorrow's pic will have X and Zero getting ready to fire at each other. The sprite round has had a "battle" feel to it so far. We should also see Frog wielding the Masamune and possibly a MGS Snake getting ready to fire at him.

If we don't get Bat-Cloud vs. Leon, that picture is going to suck. Their battle polygons in FFVII and FFVIII are horrible.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

speaking of mega man vs. zero:
what effect will it have if the picture does turn out to be mega man x vs. zero?

i don't think it would let zero win...but i think it might up his vote totals.

Very true. I'd like to see an X pic in one of these things.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'm dying to see the next match picture. X vs Zero would be the best picture this contest has seen if it can be done correctly...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Even though the X-stats are already screwed up, Mario will look better if Crono goes up against Link. And Crono would look worse if Mario faced Link.
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Current score 59/68. Next match: Mario.

If we don't get Bat-Cloud vs. Leon, that picture is going to suck. Their battle polygons in FFVII and FFVIII are horrible.

But sadly, we'll be getting those battle pics. Not that I wouldn't like to see Leon, of course. It's Squall's redeeming factor in my eyes.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Speaking of Snake, we may be stuck with a Snake sprite from his very first game.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

the only reason i could see a jump for zero would be the direct rivalry between the two.
it seems that most people love mega man, but think zero is cooler than x.

of course, this logic also puts magus in today's matchup...so any jump that does happen could be too small to notice.

from leonhart4:
If we don't get Bat-Cloud vs. Leon, that picture is going to suck. Their battle polygons in FFVII and FFVIII are horrible.

agreed. kingdom hearts pics are definitely the way to go.
especially since there aren't any sprites of cloud or squall.

...well, except for ff tactics.

but he wouldn't do that...would he?
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redline15: blasting off at the speed of light

Even though the X-stats are already screwed up, Mario will look better if Crono goes up against Link. And Crono would look worse if Mario faced Link.

It's not like a big difference was made between Link/Mario 2k2 and Sephiroth/Mario in 2k3, so why would there be a big difference between Link/Mario and Link/Crono?
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

If we get X tomorrow, I'll still hold out hope for Bat-Cloud vs. Leon. CJayC isn't holding exclusively to first appearances this time, thankfully.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

...well, except for ff tactics.

but he wouldn't do that...would he?

Dear Lord, Cloud is arguably the most useless character in that game. He starts off at level 1, and none of his chargeable skills lock on to the enemy.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'd prefer this:

(1) Mega Man
(2) Samus

Because we haven't seen them compete against each other before, and I think it would be a close match.

(1) Cloud
(2) Crono

Eh, better than Mario vs. Crono Part 4...

(1) Sephiroth
(2) Link

Yes, yes, I know what you're going to say. "WTF? Link a 2-seed? OMFG!" Well, I really want to see a Sephy vs. Link match, and if it doesn't happen this year, then I want to be guaranteed to see it next year. And Sephy gets the 1-seed because he has been cheated of it for far too long.

(1) Mario
(2) Snake
(3) Sonic

Mario vs. Snake might not be bad to watch. This would definitely be the weakest division, but I think seeing these three characters duke it out would be cool, anyway.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 64/68, Next Winner: Crono

CJayC seems to be trying to make it look like they're getting ready to duel. That would be impossible to do with an original Snake sprite. I don't think MGS Snake is out of the question.

As for me, I want the top 3 seeds in each division to look like this:

(1) Link
(2) Sephiroth
(3) Ganondorf

(1) Mario
(2) Sonic
(3) Magus

(1) Cloud
(2) Crono
(3) Tidus

(1) Mega Man
(2) Samus
(3) Solid Snake

It does involve a bit of underseeding, but I think we can get some appealing matches this way. Besides, I think Sonic will finish 8th this year and Snake will get 9th anyway.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

from ultimaterializerx:
Dear Lord, Cloud is arguably the most useless character in that game. He starts off at level 1, and none of his chargeable skills lock on to the enemy.

cloud is actually pretty fun if you have a gameshark, and the code for non-charge.

...but other than that, yeah, he's utterly worthless.
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redline15: blasting off at the speed of light

Dear Lord, Cloud is arguably the most useless character in that game. He starts off at level 1, and none of his chargeable skills lock on to the enemy.

Malak. At least a Short-Charge Cloud can do some heavy damage with the proper CT timing, and he's a lot less likely to hit your allies.
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MGS Solid Snake would look so out of place with SNES Frog though. NES Snake is about the best you can go for, in an aesthetic sense.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Slowflake... SMS didn't launch w/GCN. If N5 launches w/SM128, Mario WILL own.

God I would LOVE to see Mario win.

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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Well, we're probably going to get 16-bit Sonic against Dante, so it wouldn't be the only picture like that. I just think the Snake sprite is too hideous to make any sort of good match pic out of it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Well, Sonic can use his Sonic Adventure/Heroes model with his match against Dante and not have it look hideous overall though. Frog only has CT to draw images from unfortunately so it's more limited with what can be done, unless he wants to make the poll pic look horrid.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Also for link vs crono. I dont think you are giving crono enough credit. link hasn't been that successful in these contests.

Raw. Ful. My. Wah. Full.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

i got cloud to lvl 85 pretty quick.. although by then i was about 5 battles away from the end but he was still my #5 or 6 character wish his sword wasn't so weak though..
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

I just don't want to see NES Snake. Being unbalanced is better than that.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Truthfully.. I think Mario deserves to win this contest more than anyone else!!! .. But that's just my opinion..

I second that. While I like Crono better and voted for him, Mario does deserve a total domination victory.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Dante is going to have one kick ass picture.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I just got home from college, and I must say, wow. Crono owned the day vote. When I left, he was at 1200, and when I checked during my two hour break, he was at 2000. Now it's approasching 4000. I actually expected Mario to make it close. Is Crono increasing by that much, or has Mario just fallen?
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

Heh, you damn right Slowflake. I wonder what place I'll be in? I can't wait to see. :)

7 Shdwdde 67 Link

Not above me, my friend. >;)
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Why is that? Mario 3 is obviously a lot more popular than Mario is.

I disagree. I believe that Mario is stronger than his game, and certainly not a LOT weaker.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

I've never been disappointed by Mario in a contest match...until now. I wish he would have atleast made it close

I look forward to seeing Link absolutely crush Crono next round, on his way to the Summer Contest crown.
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Also for link vs crono. I dont think you are giving crono enough credit. link hasn't been that successful in these contests. This is a squaresoft favored website, and I think Crono has a pretty good chance against Link.

Yay, quote material. ^.^

Yep, the 2K2 Champ wasn't that succesful in this contest. XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well it doesn't make sense to say Mario has decreased, as nearly 100% of the people who come to GameFAQs know who Mario is. If people are voting for Crono, it's most likely because they know who both characters are and prefer Crono. This would indicate an increase in percentage towards Crono from the current voting population.

-Dabu

Think fast. Click faster.

Oddly enough, Slowflake is an example of one of those people. I don't think he likes Crono much, but he did play CT after the Spring Contest.

After? I thought is was his fav game ever :o
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

It's not like a big difference was made between Link/Mario 2k2 and Sephiroth/Mario in 2k3, so why would there be a big difference between Link/Mario and Link/Crono?

Well, Sephiroth got a heck of a lot stronger, which is why Mario got beat so badly.


Mario certainly wouldn't do better this year against Link than what he did vs. Link in 2k2. I think he would do worse, since he's not keeping with Crono anymore. But Crono should get at least 40% on Link. Maybe even 45%, but that's very unlikely. Mario beating Crono and bombing against Link doesn't help Crono.

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Current score 59/68. Next match: Mario.

3500. Stick a fork in Mario, he's done.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

I'd like to see a Crono/Tidus-or-Aeris match, if we're talkin' Crono/FF-character matches.

Crono would get above 57% on ANY non-FF7 FF character. And Aeris, too.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

This was a dud....

Think there will be any more good matches at all? Cloud/Sephiroth? The finals?
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Mario vs Samus

Until Samus beats Cloud or Sephiroth, I am still saying that Mario will beat Samus in a 55-45 SFF split.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Tomorrow will at least look cool, even if the results aren't.

Funny that I'd vote X > Zero > Mega Man.

-Dabu

Think fast. Click faster.

(1) Mario
(2) Sonic
(3) Magus

I would kill to see that division.

Going along with Crono increasing/Mario decreasing, here's what happens if it's one or the other.

If Mario stayed constant,
Crono changes to 40.505% on Link,
a difference of 2.36499

Alternately, if Crono stayed constant,
Mario changes to 35.9508% on Link,
a difference of -2.22924

So we'll see how Crono does next round, though if CATS is any indication (and it probably isn't), Link is stronger this year.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Womanly division -
(1) Link
(2) Sephiroth

Heroic Mario Division
(1) Mario
(3) Samus
(2) Mega Man

"Teh Overraetd Skuare Division"
(1) Cloud
(2) Crono

Chaos Unleashed Divison
(1) Sonic
(2) Snake

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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Okay, fine, I'll do it too.

(1) Mario
(2) Sonic
(3) Magus

(1) Link
(2) Snake
(3) Ganondorf

(1) Sephiroth
(2) Mega Man
(3) Aeris

(1) Cloud
(2) Samus
(3) Crono

Magus/Sonic and winner/Mario would be great. The weakest division, but just plain cool. Mario deserves a 1 seed through status alone, at least in my opinion.

I'd like to see Snake/Gdorf, but if MGS3 comes out, Ganon's doomed. Link/Snake is in there solely because I don't like Snake very much.

Seph/Mega, Part III: Retribution, and Aeris because I think she might be stronger than Tidus with AC, and we've already had Mega/Tidus. I've left Zero out because SFF sucks and Aeris has always been criminally underseeded, so I figured I'd overseed her for a change.

If Samus hasn't improved, Samus/Crono would be interesting. If she has, Samus/Cloud would be very interesting. This is with Echoes, too.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

So we'll see how Crono does next round, though if CATS is any indication (and it probably isn't), Link is stronger this year.

Yes it is! Isn't it? No? Damn. =(

So vote totals:

At 13:33:08, this match was behind Tidus vs. Shadow's pace by 7,289 votes (59,715 to 52,426).

At 15:28:22, this match was behind Tidus vs. Shadow's pace by 3,889 votes (68,813 to 64,924).

We may yet see respectable vote totals, though nothing like what we were expecting...


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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Things change from year to year and Mega Man has already proven he's definitely on the level of Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth.

I like Mega Man more than most, but he hasn't proven anything. He's indicated he may be on the level of the big three, he's given us hope... but until he actually faces Link, he hasn't proven himself. And he's still the underdog.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 68/72
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Crono with 50%

I decided to go through the higher ranking characters and add in what they might be doing between now and Summer 2005.

Cloud Strife - Sephiroth - Aeris

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Final Fantasy VII: Before Crisis (to a lesser degree, almost insignificant)

Link - Ganondorf

The Legend of Zelda (The odds of it releasing before/during the contest seem very unlikely, but just in case it does meet the estimation of June 2005)

Classic NES Series: Zelda II - Adventure of Link
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap

Samus Aran

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Classic NES Series: Metroid

Mega Man - Zero

Mega Man X8
Mega Man Zero 3
Mega Man Battle Network 5: Protoman/Colonel
Mega Man Battle Network DS
Mega Man Anniversary Collection (GBA)

Mario

Paper Mario 2
Super Mario Bros. DS
Mario Kart DS
Mario's Face
Mario Party 6
Mario Party Advance
Mario Tennis (GCN - GBA)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Sonic DS

Solid Snake

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid: Acid

Crono - Magus

Nothing announced

Other characters with something coming out that will obviously give them quite a boost range from Devil May Cry 3, Viewtiful Joe 2, Resident Evil 4, Kingdom Hearts 2, etc.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I like Mega Man more than most, but he hasn't proven anything. He's indicated he may be on the level of the big three, he's given us hope... but until he actually faces Link, he hasn't proven himself. And he's still the underdog.

Being on the level doesn't mean he's not the underdog nor does it secure a victory against Link. We have, however, seen a drastic increase in the course of a year for the Blue Bomber. There's no denying that he hasn't shown signs of being very dominative and telling me "Tidus could've decreased" would make no sense when you look at everything. Defeating Solid Snake with more than 60% will be the major thing that shows an increase and I am supremely confident in him taking this contest.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Master Chief also had help from a link being posted on one of the biggest Bungie sites in the world. Frog was well on his way to a multi-thousand vote win until that happened, and using that match as a reference point makes little sense.

Okay. I've addressed this twice now I believe. That link did not help master chief at all, and to think it held any sway of more than say twenty votes is absurd, and in denial that frog is not the spectacular warrior he could have been. That link was not on the main page it was in the forums. It did not help. It really isn't fair to master chief to think the only reason he came back like that was because of a link that was posted at the start of the match.

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I think FFVII:AC will have a minimal effect on Cloud and Sephiroth. I just don't see how a MOVIE which probably wont even sell all that well in America (since only hardcore FF fans will get it) will effect this poll in the least.

Here is mine....

1. Link
2. Crono
3. Vincent Valentine (Yep.)

1. Sephiroth
2. Samus
3. Auron

1. Cloud
2. Snake
3. Magus

1. Mega Man
2. Mario
3. Sonic
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

HM: For what it's worth, Cloud's been confirmed for Chain of Memories, arriving in December.
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Dragon Warrior vs. Dragon God: Zenithian heroine Sofia faces off against God Emperor Fou-Lu at www.rpgdl.com.

Ok well I'm back and not only does link have a 2100 vote lead. I believe its close to 4,000. A slaughter. Plain and simple.
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Current Score: 51/58 Tommarows Choice: FFTA

Being on the level doesn't mean he's not the underdog nor does it secure a victory against Link. We have, however, seen a drastic increase in the course of a year for the Blue Bomber. There's no denying that he hasn't shown signs of being very dominative and telling me "Tidus could've decreased" would make no sense when you look at everything. Defeating Solid Snake with more than 60% will be the major thing that shows an increase and I am supremely confident in him taking this contest.

*says exact same thing except with Samus instead of Mega Man, Lara/Sam instead of Tidus, Cloud instead of Link, and Sonic instead of Snake*

Thanks, HM. ;)
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

I think FFVII:AC will have a minimal effect on Cloud and Sephiroth. I just don't see how a MOVIE which probably wont even sell all that well in America (since only hardcore FF fans will get it) will effect this poll in the least.

Won't sell well in America? Since when does anything Final Fantasy not sell well? Square Enix has talked about possibly showing it in theatres and already plans to have a good advertising campaign for when it gets over here.

Also, think of it like this; after this movie I'd vote for Cloud over Link everytime.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

A little tidbit concerning Mario/Crono that no one ever brought up, I think: the 2002 X-Sts managed to predict Mario/Crono 2003 within 5 VOTES!
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 064/068 - Matches: 46/49 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: Megaman

I predict Chain of Memories to have more of an effect than Advent Children.

I really, really hope Link SLAUGHTERS Crono for this.

and I will now employ every (false and inaccurate) reason why crono is winning.

the poll is in a different place
the casual vote is down
the poll was down for an insignificant amount of time
the poll started late
the poll isn't occuring during summer
crono CLEARLY has a better picture
crono has the bracket vote
mario has the anti-vote
CRONO IS CHEATING1!111!!1!

*whines*
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Final Fantasy GAMES sell well, but this movie appeals to the ultra-fanboy and only that fanboy.

Oh an a Jap-Animation theaterical release. You mean like GITS 2? That is sure being seen my a lot of people. Face it. This movie will not sell well at all. I predict under 100,000 copies and a box office (if it is release theatrically) of under 5 million.

I had forgotten about Chain of Memories, but that would be up there too. It'd fall inbetween AC and BC for significance I'd imagine...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

And the people who buy and watch this movie are the people who would of voted for Cloud ANYWAY.

I say Samus and MegaMan have the biggest possibility of boost for next year.

Crono.....bracket vote.....HAHA!

But really, I wonder how much brackets had Crono or Mario winning today. Crono should be the definite underdog...
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Crono vs. Mario - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Mario (64/68)

Final Fantasy GAMES sell well, but this movie appeals to the ultra-fanboy and only that fanboy.

So I'm an ultra-fanboy of Final Fantasy?

Oh an a Jap-Animation theaterical release. You mean like GITS 2? That is sure being seen my a lot of people. Face it. This movie will not sell well at all. I predict under 100,000 copies and a box office (if it is release theatrically) of under 5 million.

This has far, far, far more appeal than something like Ghost in a Shell. Obviously, Final Fantasy 7 has been extremely popular in many different places worldwide. This isn't something that only one place of the world will take interest in, and when it's released on DVD the thing will sell... and very well at that. It won't be something that no one knows about either, as I stated there is big plans for advertising on it.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

And the people who buy and watch this movie are the people who would of voted for Cloud ANYWAY.

After Advent Children there will only be two characters who I'd every vote over Cloud. I'm pretty sure you can guess them, yet this year there's quite a few people I'd over him.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Heroic Mario, yes I am saying you are a FFVII fanboy. Maybe not one of the entire series, but of that game yes.


I saw at least 20 GITS 2 commericials on 4 different networks, didnt make a difference.

Like I said before, this is not a game. Most people aren't going to be. WOW. I can WATCH Cloud now.

This movie will appeal to fanboys only.

What if Cloud's voice blows, HM? And he doesn't die at the end? Would you still vote him over Link every time?
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Also, think of it like this; after this movie I'd vote for Cloud over Link everytime.

Wow, way to have an open mind.

So I'm an ultra-fanboy of Final Fantasy?


Enough of one to talk about Final Fantasy in public.

Also I forgot the ultimate proof that FF movies dont sell.

The Spirits Within. The movie bombed. It had a HUGE Advertising campaign, a story that the general public DIDNT have to play a game first to understand, and CGI that blew everything out of the water before it.

Didn't help.

cloud is actually pretty fun if you have a gameshark, and the code for non-charge.

...but other than that, yeah, he's utterly worthless.

Non Charge. Heh.

Malak. At least a Short-Charge Cloud can do some heavy damage with the proper CT timing, and he's a lot less likely to hit your allies.

Rafa and Malak have the potential to do more damage than anyone else in the game, so they're far from useless.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Whew.... I had 2 classes today, get back to the computer and have 240 posts to read. <_< I'll kinda recap on certain things I picked up.

1) Someone said people who didn't care about the brackets went for Crono because they liked him better

I thought this all along. I think we aren't giving the voters enough credit. I think a great number of them are aware of what happened in the past. You can't hold them to making the same vote, especially if there are two likeable characters. People can like Cloud and Sephiroth without being diehard Square fans. Those people could easily vote for Link and Mario the next year or vice versa. I know I am indifferent between Link and Cloud. I think plenty of people could easily say "hmmm, I like both but I voted for Link last year. Let me back Cloud this year". That type of voting can't be picked up in the extrapolated rankings.

Another comment about the 2002 contest. I think it was set up to be Mario/Sonic or something of the sort. Those characters probably got major backing due to it being "the right thing to do". As we can see the next year, neither character did as well. That might be due to people realizing that they didn't HAVE to vote for Mario or Sonic and if they liked the other character better (Cloud/Sephiroth), they should vote accordingly. This may be another factor for Cloud/Sephiroth increasing besides KHF (this is just a theory).

2) Super Mario Sunshine

Is it just me, or was this game not hyped up to be the next big Mario game? From how it was previewed and advertised, it seemed to be more of a Mario sidequest rather than the next big Mario game. Reading previews, most of them told about Mario getting Fludd and having to clean up graffiti but then saying that there would be more to it. I never thought it would be THE Mario game for the Gamecube until I finally played it. The next Mario game is getting hyped up as THE Mario game, so I'm sure it will do way better than SMS and Mario will gain some of his popularity back.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Wow, way to have an open mind.

I left out the part where I would say if everything I've heard so far is presented well. It's not like I don't like Cloud already either, but characters like Link and Vyse currently get my vote over him. With Advent Children I don't think I'll be disappointed after keeping up with it for 360 days this Friday.

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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Heroic Mario, yes I am saying you are a FFVII fanboy. Maybe not one of the entire series, but of that game yes.

I'll give you that much since you were able to specify. I do love FF7 to death, although I don't know if people would label me as such. *shrug*


I saw at least 20 GITS 2 commericials on 4 different networks, didnt make a difference.

I saw it as well, but then again it has to have enough appeal to get people to buy it/see it. I know it was probably good, but I didn't even bother to go watch it at the theatres.

Like I said before, this is not a game. Most people aren't going to be. WOW. I can WATCH Cloud now.

It gives people who hadn't known of Cloud a chance to know him now more than ever. He isn't strictly limited to the gamer fanbase, but that's where his core auidence will probably come from. It doesn't matter if you know Cloud or not, after seeing him in the movie it could easily have one changing their opinion on him. That's exactly what I'm aiming at, and I know there will be plenty of people who will watch it and wouldn't already vote Cloud in these bigger matches.

What if Cloud's voice blows, HM? And he doesn't die at the end? Would you still vote him over Link every time?

I'll switch it to subs and Japanese voice acting since I know that will be good (same guy who did his KH voice). If he dies it has more to do with how, but most of it would come from his character in the movie. Certainly if he just kicks total ass in the movie, which from what I've read it sounds like he will, then I have to choice put to send him up toward Mega Man and Mario on my list. I do already like him, to get that out of the way.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

3) Sprites

Hey, noone ever said anything about it, but Squall DOES have a sprite. Remember the load screen of FF Anthology? Remember Squall walking across the screen with his lil' gunblade? If Ceej was especially cruel (or creative?) he could put FF Tactics Cloud vs. FF Anthology Squall. <_<

None of Sonic's character models ever looked bad. I wouldn't care if he got his 16-bit model vs. a Dante in game. What I DO care about is if 8-bit Snake gets tossed in there against Frog. Snake deserves better. At least last year, the characters had the background pics to help them out. This year, what would it be? Metal Gear background? Where would it be? Inside of a truck?

4) Super Metroid

I think I will go play this one again. I love the music. It's easily my favorite Metroid. I just beat Metroid Prime, Metroid Fusion, and Metroid Zero Mission within the past 4 months. What Nintendo NEEDS to do is make a remake to Metroid 2: The Return of Samus. What's up with that? Noone is talking about this game. I never got to beat it either (I borrowed it from a friend (-_-) ).
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

On the Ghost in the Shell thing, the numbers from the weekend show that it was in 47 theaters and averaged $6.7k per theater (more than the top grossing movie this weekend) for around a $315k gross. I'd say that's rather respectable numbers for such a limited release.
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

This match has picked up the pace in terms of vote totals:

At 13:33:08, this match was behind Tidus vs. Shadow's pace by 7,289 votes (59,715 to 52,426).

At 15:28:22, this match was behind Tidus vs. Shadow's pace by 3,889 votes (68,813 to 64,924).

At 16:36:28, this match was behind Tidus vs. Shadow's pace by 1,394 votes (73,491 to 72,097).

I hope it keeps it up. =)
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

5) My bracket

1)Link
2)Sonic
3)Magus

1)Sephiroth
2)Crono

1)Cloud
2)Mario
3)Snake

1)Mega Man
2)Samus

The Sonic/Magus matchup for obvious reasons. Sephiroth finally gets the number one seed he deserves (for smitelf) and Crono is freed from Mario. I'd like to see what kind of numbers he can put up on Sephiroth. Sephiroth then most likely gets a Link rematch.

Snake is probably the weakest of the "Noble Nine" this year, but he still gets a decent draw with the match against Mario. If Mario wins, then we get to see Cloud vs. Mario revisited for comparison. I'd also like to see how Mega Man would do against Samus. Whoever wins gets a matchup with Cloud (or Mario?).
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Dear Lord, Cloud is arguably the most useless character in that game. He starts off at level 1, and none of his chargeable skills lock on to the enemy.

Admittedly, Cloud is weak, but in my game he inflicted the vast majority of the damage on the final boss by using Climhazzard. In my book he's well above some of the characters like Rafa and Malak, although it was a big disappointment how lame his abilities were. His sprite looked okay, though, I wouldn't mind seeing that used in a match pic.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 68/72
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Crono with 50%

I haven't played FF Tactics in years. Cloud is okay in FF Tactics... But by the time you get him, you have to spend so much friggen time leveling him that it may not be worth it. Plus you have to keep him stuck with the Buster Blade.

Rafa is NOT worthless. I lowered her Brave to 0 and raised her Faith to 99. I heard doing the opposite for Malak works wonders on him too. I haven't played the game in so long, so I forgot who my best/favorite characters were. I forgot half of the characters IN the game....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I think that during a jobber squash match next year, the Snake pic should just be a cardboard box. I would vote that over Cloud even!
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Attn. HM

I agree with you completely that Advent Children will have a big impact on voting and will sell well in America. Only have one comment about what you've said so far this page...I didn't bother to copy and paste it but i think you said something like "Since when does anything Final Fantasy not sell well in America." My answer is: Since Final Fantasy the movie. Lost tons in America, and rightfully so.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:43.55 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
Currently Tied for 4191st place

Why would Tidus decrease? Please, explain why he would suddenly decrease from the previous year after no other Final Fantasy character showed any signs of decreasing.

I mean even if Tidus doesn't decrease, as in it's all MM increasing, MM is still not on par with Link.
Tidus will have to simultaneously increase for MM to stand a chance against Link.

How have I been proven wrong time after time? I've missed two matches thus far and have been off slightly on a few predictions while nailing plenty of others.

I KNOW you were right most of the time HM.
But your record when you're going against the majority isn't very good.

I'll put it this way, MM and Samus is NOT championship material until they earn their final 4 spot.
And then based on how "clean" their victory are, we can accurately gauge their real strength.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I still can't get over the fact that 94% of the contestants have Link advancing to the divisional finals.

Perhaps it'll finally hit Ceej now that SFF=bad.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I'm dissapointed in todays match. So anti climantic... Anyhow I'm getting AC just because I loved FF7 (I'm anything but a fanboy), and HM When you mentioned games that would have an impact on sonic, I'm 99% another sonic game will come out between now and sc2k5 other than the DS game (not info just a hunch).

And now my bracket (top four seeds)

1. Link
2. Sonic
3. Magus
4. Zero

1. Sephiroth
2. Samus
3. Ganondorf
4. Shadow (Sonic)

1. Cloud
2. Mario
3. Tidus
4. Ryu (SF)

1. Megaman
2. Crono
3. Snake
4. Aeris
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

I am supremely confident in him [Mega Man] taking this contest.

Weren't you also supremely confident that Mario would beat Crono? >_>

My 1, 2, and 3 seeds for next year:

(1)Link
(2)Sephiroth
(3)Zero

(1)Cloud
(2)Solid Snake
(3)Sonic

(1)Mega Man
(2)Crono
(3)Ganondorf

(1)Samus
(2)Mario
(3)Magus
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

I know. When I was just guessing prediction percentages, I thought that maybe 89% would be the highest he would have...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

You can tell when a match is a dud when the discussion turns towards next year's contest. Poor Mario.
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1) Link
2) Samus
3) Tidus

1) Sephiroth
2) Mario
3) Snake

1) Cloud
2) Sonic
3) Magus

1) Mega Man
2) Crono
3) Ganondorf

SFF on Link vs. Samus, but meh.
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SC2k4: 65/68 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, Jill).
Today's Pick: Crono

Speaking of Squall/Cloud sprites, where do they show up in FFA?
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I mean even if Tidus doesn't decrease, as in it's all MM increasing, MM is still not on par with Link.
Tidus will have to simultaneously increase for MM to stand a chance against Link.

...what? Since when isn't 48.62% on par with Link? There's a very small percentage of voters that could swing that thing into Mega Man's favor. Not to mention he does have a RPG releasing on the PS2/GCN tomorrow, regardless of how big an impact it would have it doesn't take a lot to overcome less than 2%.

I KNOW you were right most of the time HM.
But your record when you're going against the majority isn't very good.

I'm what? 1-0 when I've gone against the majority? The only time I recall was at Mega Man vs Tidus when everyone was deadset Mega Man couldn't break 60%.

I'll put it this way, MM and Samus is NOT championship material until they earn their final 4 spot.

As soon as the numbers they put up against Link/Cloud are seen it'll prove their worth as championship material. Even if they lose it will not be by very much.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

On the menu screen before you actually start the game when you see a sprite running around at the bottom of the screen. It's randomly either Squall or Cloud, depending on what disk you have in. I don't remember which has which.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

HM When you mentioned games that would have an impact on sonic, I'm 99% another sonic game will come out between now and sc2k5 other than the DS game (not info just a hunch).

I haven't heard anything from Sega as far as even mentioning the possibility of another Sonic game. They might show one off at E3 next year, but I doubt we'll see another Sonic game released between now and next year unless it's already in development.

...wait, I forgot about Sonic Mega Collection Plus on the PS2 in November. Add that to the list.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

You know, I look at today's match picture and see that Super Mario World sprite and can't help but think of how wrong it is to see Mario out in the Sweet 16. That just doesn't compute.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

HM, I like the way you corrected yourself WITHIN the same post. Are you subliminally saying that Sonic Mega Collection won't matter? If you do, then I agree. <_<

Sega needs to think in the lab long and hard before they release another Sonic game. From no announced game to having one out within a year would be bad news.... I'd rather wait a while for a GOOD Sonic game that's at least on par with SA2:Battle than just have a mediocre spit out.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

You know, I look at today's match picture and see that Super Mario World sprite and can't help but think of how wrong it is to see Mario out in the Sweet 16. That just doesn't compute.

On most other sites, I'd probably agree, but here it doesn't seem all that surprising.

But I didn't think he would go out like this...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well, just seeing Mario out in round 3 doesn't look right anywhere. I know how RPG dominated this site is, but still...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

...what? Since when isn't 48.62% on par with Link? There's a very small percentage of voters that could swing that thing into Mega Man's favor. Not to mention he does have a RPG releasing on the PS2/GCN tomorrow, regardless of how big an impact it would have it doesn't take a lot to overcome less than 2%.

That's assuming that it's all MM increasing.
If you look at Squall's case, there's a strong possibility that Tidus has dropped as well.
Note that other than Sora, no other major Square char is increasing.

I'm what? 1-0 when I've gone against the majority? The only time I recall was at Mega Man vs Tidus when everyone was deadset Mega Man couldn't break 60%.

If you count it that way it's 1-1, Ryu didn't exceed 45% on Sonic.
Your comments that you hate the Chaos division alone indicates that things aren't going your way.
Look, if you took offense, I apologize, that wasn't my intention.
I was just telling another guy that you're not the most reliable when it comes to upsets.

As soon as the numbers they put up against Link/Cloud are seen it'll prove their worth as championship material. Even if they lose it will not be by very much.

No need to wait that late, if Samus can break 65% on Sonic, I'll be worried about Cloud.
But right now, it's way to early to tell for sure.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

That's assuming that it's all MM increasing.

Why wouldn't it be Mega Man all increasing?

If you look at Squall's case, there's a strong possibility that Tidus has dropped as well.

There's more than enough reason to explain the case with Squall and not him dropping.

Note that other than Sora, no other major Square char is increasing.

Tidus doesn't need to increase for Mega Man to be completely looking great. If he did due to FFX-2 or something then that's all the better. I can safely say there's no reason for him to drop from 2003 to 2004.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

If you count it that way it's 1-1, Ryu didn't exceed 45% on Sonic.

I was 0.54% off of getting that correct. It may not have been correct, but it's close enough to not call it a loss if you ask me.

Your comments that you hate the Chaos division alone indicates that things aren't going your way.

Hence where my two matches I got wrong and Sega characters beating Capcom characters. Joe vs Tails; Hayabusa vs Sora, I didn't go against the majority in those matches either.

Look, if you took offense, I apologize, that wasn't my intention.

Nothing against you, I just want people to backup their claims when they insist on telling me I get matches wrong all the time.

I was just telling another guy that you're not the most reliable when it comes to upsets.

Where I have gotten an "upset" wrong?

No need to wait that late, if Samus can break 65% on Sonic, I'll be worried about Cloud.
But right now, it's way to early to tell for sure.

I'm already worried about Cloud after those two dominative performances against characters who aren't low-class fodder.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

That's assuming that it's all MM increasing.
If you look at Squall's case, there's a strong possibility that Tidus has dropped as well.
Note that other than Sora, no other major Square char is increasing.

Squally had the misfortune of going against two opponents from an 8 pack of characters that all overperformed. That's not a coincidence. Cloud and Seph look just as strong as last year, Tidus *may* have gone up due to FFX-2, Kefka might have gone up, not just gotten SFF'd, judging by how well he did on Knux and how well Knux did on Snake and how bad Pac Man did against Luigi, Auron was clearly affected by SFF last year, but he could have gone up, too, and Sora is apparently a beast. Oh, I forgot Crono probably going up. Square's looking mighty fine, if you ask me.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

This match has finally passed Tidus vs. Shadow -

At 18:00:00, this match was leading Tidus vs. Shadow by 648 votes (79,481 to 78,833).

About time, too. That just looked wrong, seeing this match behind Tidus vs. Shadow by 7,300 votes earlier in the match >_<.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I blame the schools.

Seriously, kids can't vote(stuff) if they're in school.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

I am supremely confident in him taking this contest.

Well, I definitely hope you're right. I generally don't take things for granted until they happen most of the time. The exception is the Spring Contest, where I was certain FF VII would win it. A few topics ago someone brought up the question of whether the Zelda Collection helped Zelda games in the Spring - I honestly think it did. I don't think OoT would have gotten over 43% if it weren't for the collection and the version they gave away for preordering WW.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 68/72
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Crono with 50%

I don't think OoT would have gotten over 43% if it weren't for the collection and the version they gave away for preordering WW.

Now that would've made for one of the most overhyped matches. Seems kinda low though.

Actually, that percentage would've looked a lot like Sephiroth vs. Link in 2002, if your guess is true.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Bleh, what a boring match, and there's not going to be another decent match until Cloud vs. Sephiroth.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 64/68, Next Winner: Crono

Yep... The only interesting thing is to see if this match can hit 100,000 total votes. =/
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

*looks at the poll* Holy ****. I've been hopin' that Mario would start a comeback about anytime now, but it's not lookin' like it'll happen, not in the very least.

I'm still not calling crap until the very end of it though; I don't trust common logic in these Crono/Mario matches.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

*CJC voice*

I have found 7000 cheat votes for Crono. Go on.
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SC2K4 Score: 70/72(Yoshi) Next Tough Pick: Sephiroth over Cloud
FF7>>>>me.

Well, I guess we'll also get to see half of the top 50 fall off the map...
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 64/68, Next Winner: Crono

Oh come on. Mario needs around 820 - 840 votes gained per hour to beat him. He shows no signs of starting a comeback and that pace is even faster than Master Chief's pace (I think).
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I'm going to blatantly whore out my Mock 2K5 topic, in the hopes that you stats junkies might find it remotely interesting.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16433330

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There is no faster way into a girl's pants than the Brave Little Toaster. ~The King In Teal

There's more than enough reason to explain the case with Squall and not him dropping.

Fine, I'll accept that, although I really don't buy both of his opponent increasing.

Tidus doesn't need to increase for Mega Man to be completely looking great. If he did due to FFX-2 or something then that's all the better. I can safely say there's no reason for him to drop from 2003 to 2004.

Neither is there any reason for Jill to keep dropping each year, some things just happen with no reason.

I was 0.54% off of getting that correct. It may not have been correct, but it's close enough to not call it a loss if you ask me.

And where are your socks if you don't mind my asking? - j/k

Where I have gotten an "upset" wrong?

I never said that you actually got an upset wrong.
Ryu over Sonic was a bad call, although I knew it's a joke, some people took that too seriously.
On a more serious note, since you're not too comfortable with the chaos division, calling major upsets like that isn't very believable.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I just realized I haven't voted yet. Score one for Mario.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

The Mario vs Crono series has finally gone to an end. Crono is victorious.
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Vote in my Pseudo SpC2K5 bracket: boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16427732
Feat: C. Trigger, Mario 64, Doom 3, Sonic 2, MegaMan 2

I swear, I thought I posted this:

I blame the schools.

Seriously, kids can't vote(stuff) if they're in school.

Then I'd think Crono would be further ahead than he already is..
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I did believe Ryu had a legitimate shot at taking down Sonic with SFAC just around the corner and him already being high up on the list. Turns out believing he could wasn't that far off, but I realized he wasn't going to be able to after the first round where he performed exactly how he was suppose to against KOS-MOS.

The other half of that would be my fanboyism. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Now, that's not true. Mario still beat crono two out of three times, and I'm not saying that takes away from crono's victory, but I'm not going to pretend that Crono is now better than Mario just because he won this year. It can be said the loss of casuals helped crono, which may or may not be true, but Mario still leads the series 2-1.

However, I do NOT want to see a m v c four next year, unless they clash in the finals.
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I told you it was all in the numbers. 3 was the magic number for Crono. CT beat 3 Mario games in the Spring Contest, including Mario World (with Cape Mario) in round 3.

Oh, and the Squall sprite appears on the Final Fantasy Anthology menu select (select new game, load game, etc.), but it's pretty rare to see him. I don't know if CJayC could find it.

Actually, someone did a Newgrounds movie of FFVI blitzball and used the Squall sprite. I'll see if I can find it.

There's more than enough reason to explain the case with Squall and not him dropping.

I still refuse to believe Squall dropped, especially when everyone else who was in Kingdom Hearts looks just as strong as last year.

Besides, if Squall's underperformance had been all him dropping, he would've done as well as Alucard against Kirby since he barely did better than him against Bomberman. As is, he performed about .5% better against Bomberman, and around 2.5-3% better against Kirby.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I cannot wait until the X vs Zero picture goes up tomorrow, or so I'm hoping for X to be present. I also noticed that this match takes place on the release of Mega Man X: Command Mission (RPG - PS2/GCN) tomorrow. I can't wait to get that game and it taking place on the same day seems so appropriate. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I still refuse to believe Squall dropped, especially when everyone else who was in Kingdom Hearts looks just as strong as last year.

I was agreeing with you on that.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Ah, here it is. I thought it was pretty funny. Worth a look, at least.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/106813
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

From Page 6:

There'd never be a Tommy Vercetti/Pikachu finals matchup in a Summer contest.

Interestingly enough I held a SC2K2 and SC2K3 Sudden Death, and in the end, the final was Pika vs Vercetti.
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros

My bad. I read that wrong. I thought you meant Tidus when you referred to "him." After all, that's what he's called in Final Fantasy X.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Interestingly enough I held a SC2K2 and SC2K3 Sudden Death, and in the end, the final was Pika vs Vercetti.

Ah.. both ends of the so-called 'kiddy vote' spectrum.. nice :D
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Well, my bracket is officially dead now. I though maybe I'd have an outside chance at getting a partial prize with only 8 points missed, but now with Crono beating Mario and me being out 12, it doesn't look like I have much to hope for anymore. Oh well, now I won't feel so bad about voting for favorites instead of bracket voting.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

That link was pretty good. Poor Gau...he did have the Mr. Thou lines.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Mario's now slipping; he may very well end under 47%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Just my random thought at the moment:

This contest as a whole has certainly lost it's popularity.

I remember Cloud used to bring about 90k votes in the early rounds.
But he only gets 70k+ each round in this contest.

Same goes for Link and Sephy, as well as most other contestants.
Only MM and Samus seems to be exempt from this trend, at least so far.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Eh? If we had top 10 lists, Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth would be dominating the total votes categories. Samus' totals have been rather low by comparison, and MM's competition was too stiff for him to have great vote totals.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

The drop in vote totals is almost completely attributed to the layout change, because now the poll is not in a prominent position. The change could be seen right in the middle of the Spring Contest first round.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

And Crono breaks the 5,000 barrier. Insanity really...even though Mario is ahead 2-1 in the series between them, Crono has emphatically stated that he is the dominant force now. Only once Mario 128 is released will he stand a chance against Crono again me thinks.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Exactly.

It's equivalent to having a permanent "poll of the day" above the poll in the old format. And in the beginning of the Spring Contest we saw the different in vote totals that made. We went from 75,000 one day to 100,000 the next just because of the poll of the day.

Then the layout change came about and you had a permanent drop to ~75,000 on average.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

I wonder if we'll ever get out high vote totals back consistently, I suppose its kinda too late for this contest. What are everyone's serious thoughts on the next contest? Do you think we'll have a spring contest? I think we'll have some sort of summer contest next year, but only if the results are significantly different this year. Otherwise, I would like to see something different. But other than tag-team and best game, what else can we have?
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Yep, the night vote is kicking in. Crono should finish with over 53%. Bring on the next set of match pics.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

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Crono would be lucky to get more than 41% against Link.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Damn..Crono is up by 5000....Square is walking all over this contest...Kefka's now looking like an ugly duck of the bunch. XD

Props to Crono.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Crono put up a fight against Link in the early hours of the poll, a la Chrono Trigger-FFVII. That would be a victory in and of itself.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Crono has no real shot at Link imo, beating mario 54-46 doesn't show enough strength to win. Link beat Mario far worse, and hasn't it been said that there wasn't that much more sff? I mean, yes Crono won, and yes decisively, but if this were taken as a regular match, and not the super hyped matchup it was, this isn't enough for Crono to beat Link.
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Do you guys really think the layout change is the cause of all that?
I mean, the poll is still visible to visitors who browse through the page.

I would think most people will at the least browse the whole front page just to see if there's anything new.
Considering that's what I usually do at news websites.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I think now we're at the point where Crono can actually challenge Link and put up a huge fight.. maybe winning perhaps?

I'm starting to see a 52% or less total for whoever wins.

Of course, I said that before.. and I'm sticking by my opinion :P

This is Link's first serious non-Nintendo opponent in the SC2K4.. can he step up against his toughest competition to date?
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Do you think we'll have a spring contest?

The only possible reason to do another contest would be to have every game scattered across the bracket and allow other games that didn't get in to get in. Aside from that we already know who the winner will be, because game popularity should remain very consistent.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I have this feeling Crono is being underestimated against Link now. Beating Mario finally might give him some momentum going into this next match in voters' minds. In addition, more people are giving up on their brackets as more and more of them get busted so bracket voting might not be as large of a factor going into the Hyrule division final.

I still think Link is going to win but have a feeling Crono is going to cause quite a scare in the early hours. He's kind of like a dark horse now.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

I think it is the new front page. On small resolutions, you have to scroll to see the poll. If only Ceej would switch the places of the poll and the stupid flash ad, vote totals would be higher.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

Based on the current value, Crono gets 40.36% on Link.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

This performance today doesn't signify at all that Crono even has an outside chance of beating Link. Crono would have to be absolutely dominating this match with upwards to 60% before I even gave a second thought to him coming close to Link. Now, he'll do better than what the X-sts have him at but it should be around 40-41%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

He's kind of like a dark horse now.

No. Mega Man and Samus are the dark horses. Yes, Crono beat Mario, but not by nearly enough to let him challenge Link.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Concerning another Spring Contest, I certainly think there would be another one. I would hope that CJayC would have the common sense to "retire" FFVII though, since it would be the only winner anyone with a brain would pick. At least that would make the winner somewhat suspenseful.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

The Xstats have also been acting incredibly wonky so far. Megaman and Samus were projected to be doing modestly worse than they are now and look at them currently? My faith in them is somewhat shaky right now for this contest.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Honestly, even with this performance, Crono still has NO chance of beating Link.

Let me say this once and for all, Link has this division in the bag before the contest started.

And unless MM can somehow blow Snake out of the water, Link has his final spot in the bag as well.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

The only time it'd be even close to up in the air is if you removed both Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Megaman and Samus were projected to be doing modestly worse than they are now and look at them currently?

That's why they are considered the only two with a chance of touching Cloud and Link. They have increased drastically based on their performances, but as you can tell from Crono he's only doing about 3% better than usual. There's a difference from overperforming by 10%+ and then overperforming by roughly 3%. He should break 40% against Link, but it'll right on 40% and not much more.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

The XS have been off without explanation for 4 times now. That doesn't seem like much to me.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Then the layout change came about and you had a permanent drop to ~75,000 on average.

We aren't doing that bad. Through Link vs. Yoshi, matches have averaged 81,803 votes and that should rise by the end of the contest.

At the end of the Spring Contest, we averaged 82,530 votes.

However, compared to 2003, we are doing horrible. Those matches averaged 106,262 votes.

Mario vs. Crono was ahead of Tidus vs. Shadow by 2,308 at 20:00:05, by the way.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Go Mario!
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I have no fangs, yet I constantly bite. I have no scales, yest I slither through you. What am I? - Tangle Asp

Speaking of the spring contest, I think Ceej should remove the winner of every contest permanently.

New games come out every year, noticeable new chars doesn't.
Strength of games remain relatively constant, strength of chars doesn't.

While it won't make sense to remove Cloud or Link from the char contests, it would make some sense to "retire" FF VII; as well as any other future winners.

However, if by some miracle Cloud was able to win this contest and the next, he should be "retired"; or else the contest has no point.
Same goes for any other char should they make a hat trick.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

SOLID SNAKE will magically gain +gadzillion percent due to a new MGS3 trailer/demo, and Snake will suddenly beat MM 51-49, followed by beating Link 50.01%-49.99%, and Cloud by one vote.

Yup, that's how it's goin' down.

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There is no faster way into a girl's pants than the Brave Little Toaster. ~The King In Teal
Seriously, don't dismiss Sephiroth. He still has as decent a chance as any other against Cloud, and Samus, and the finals.

The ex-sts aren't perfect though, and of course they're going to change year to year though, otherwise this conetest would be no fun at all. And despite that Megaman and Samus have both done very well so far, there's still a lot more that needs to be done.

For Spring, I would almost go as far to say that I don't want one if it pushes the summer contest into september and october like this. It sucks to stay up late and just not have as much free time as you would want with the summer, and that whole summer is going with the summer contest feeling is gone. I think we should move the spring contest to the winter, say decemberish, and then we can have plenty of time to run the summer contest on time.
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The poll is over 90,000 votes with a little more than 3 hours to go, and Crono is creeping toward 53%. Think we'll break 100,000?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

It looks like I have the Prophet Challenge all wrapped up. I guess I had it figured out better than anyone how much stronger Crono had gotten.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Crono's at 53%...40.62% on Link...
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

think we'll get a CJayC topic on the match?
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

The poll is over 90,000 votes with a little more than 3 hours to go, and Crono is creeping toward 53%. Think we'll break 100,000?

Maybe -

This match at 21:08:56 had 91,524 votes to Tidus vs. Shadow's 89,143 votes 2 seconds before that.

So it is ahead by 2,381. I don't think it will make it (disappointed as hell about that). =(

Assuming it ends at about 98,000, this round will have an average of 95,779 so far.

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Don't worry. Cloud-Squall will get it done.

Cloud Strife 50% 50000

Squall Leonhart 50% 50001

Book it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Well, I'm gone for tonight people...

Make sure you give your vote to the Blue Bomber!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Can someone please explain what was up with that "Sorry 'bout that" topic made by Ceej? I missed whatever happened...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Can someone please explain what was up with that "Sorry 'bout that" topic made by Ceej? I missed whatever happened...

The poll for Link/Yoshi didn't start up properly. In its place, we had the kiddy movie PotD that was below before it. People started to freak out, Ceej came in and fixed it, and all was well in the world.
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Dragon Warrior vs. Dragon God: Zenithian heroine Sofia faces off against God Emperor Fou-Lu at www.rpgdl.com.

http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b51.jpg
http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b52.jpg
http://gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b53.jpg

Mega MAn vs Zero kicks ass, but sadly not X...

I love Frog's picture, Snake isn't even recognizable. XD
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Oh and Cloud is one badass in that picture.

GO CLOUD!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Come on, high per theater average doesn't even count. It might mean something if it made $60,000 per theater, like the previews for major Disney movies did, but $6000 is nothing, tons of movies accomplish that, and they're not considered to be terribly successful, especially not if they have a massive ad campaign like GITS 2.

MM vs Zero AND Cloud vs Squall are absolute PWNAGE! Frog vs Snake looks like crap.
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me.

No X = Instant disappointment

Zero doesn't look too good either.

Frog is the only redeeming factor in that match picture. The background is hideous, and Snake seems to fade into it. You can barely tell he's there.

Bat-Cloud vs. Leon owns. Chain of Memories version, no less. Squall's chances of victory just went up.

KH Squall > KH Cloud
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Little hypothetical question... If there were these polls in the front page, in a contest setting, what would you guess the percentages would be for the match:

Nintendo vs. Square
Final Fantasy vs. The Legend of Zelda

I remembered this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1580

And I was wondering about it. There was another poll with what series you are most interested in, and FF blew everyone away with Zelda in a distant second - I think. I couldn't find that one on the first few pages or I overlooked it.

So, thoughts?


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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

That picture Cloud has is by far one of the best I've seen for this contest. It totally reeks of badass.

Mega Man's picture also owns and Snake is working on nothing but his name in that match. XD
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

That clever *******. Cjay used KH:COM sprites. I approve. :)
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Square with 57%, FF with 62%.
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me.

Frog has a sword. Swords are 2/2 so far.
Cloud has a sword, too.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

KH Squall > KH Cloud

Yeah right, Cloud totally owns that picture. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Ceej has NO excuses anymore. X is fair game.
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Dragon Warrior vs. Dragon God: Zenithian heroine Sofia faces off against God Emperor Fou-Lu at www.rpgdl.com.

Wow, I just was about to ask if Leon would return in Chain of Memories. Too bad he doesn't even have a battle position. That pic is all Cloud. I dunno if Squall will hold up like I thought he would.... I hope so though.

Frog vs. Snake looks like pure ass.... it's exactly how I thought it would look....

No X, but the pic still isn't bad.

I wonder what Ceej will pull with Sephiroth and Auron?
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Mega Man and Cloud totally own this round up with those pictures.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

KH Squall > KH Cloud

That's funny, because I clearly remember Cloud yielding more experience.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Square with 57%, FF with 62%.

Heh. Closer than I thought, to be honest. At least the FF match.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

MMX7 was wonderful...don't you people denigrate it! ;_;

(Although, less Flame Hyenard would've been exquisite for my palate.)

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>Critical Mass has not been reached.
>More SephirothxCloud fics please.

Frog has a sword. Swords are 2/2 so far.
Cloud has a sword, too.

So does Zero.
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Fact: This is an opinion.
Opinion: This is a fact.

It was just a 7 minute late poll of the day problem? Damnit. I was holding out hope that The Jesus actually had a true sense of humor, and the 'Sorry...' topic was in reference to his poll picture of Link running his 8-bit sword through LUEshi. But alas, no sense of humor.
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GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 9 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

Seriously, Cloud Vs. Squall and Megaman Vs. Zero are easily the best Sprite pics in summer contest history.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

So does Zero.

This is true. GameFAQs must really be obsessed with swords, then, as every match in the Sweet 16 thus far has featured a character with a sword.

DAMMIT! I just realized that if Hayabusa had won, every match would feature a character with a sword. But no, Sora has to screw it up and show up with a keyblade. Blarg.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Leon owns Bat-Cloud as a character and as a fighter in Kingdom Hearts.

Eh, the only reason that Squall doesn't have a battle pose in Chain of Memories is that he's never involved in a battle. Cloud actually fights WITH you in this one.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

If Zero's Z-Saber can be considered a sword, the keyblade can be, too.

And yes, I must insist. The Cloud-Squall and Megaman-Zero pics KICK ASS.

And Snake looks like a pile of crap.
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Fact: This is an opinion.
Opinion: This is a fact.

Perhaps Solid's picture will finally show us if pictures mean even the slightest thing... XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Cloud totally tears Leon up in that picture. Thankfully, match results will be back me up on that one. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

That's funny, because I clearly remember Cloud yielding more experience.

So did I, he's harder to beat too.

But of course Leonhart is entitled to his imaginations.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Snake has to realise that Frog can see him in that picture, so hiding in your NES sprite, it's embarressing.
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HaRRicH said Lara would get doubled by Samus, but I fought the truth.
Samus - 82.39, Lara - 17.61

Well, I'm now off for tonight.

Go Mega Man!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Go Mega Man!
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Do we all agree that in the Hades cup, Sora vs. Cloud & Leon was a great match?
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HaRRicH said Lara would get doubled by Samus, but I fought the truth.
Samus - 82.39, Lara - 17.61

The Z-Sabre is a hell of a lot closer to a sword than a key, but fine, every single match features a character with something at least resembling a sword. So I better see a sword in every single match pic. 5/5 so far, Ceej.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Megamus Clinkeroth (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Squall's not even concerned about Cloud because even he knows that Leon > Bat-Cloud. He doesn't need his gunblade to win.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife