*claps for Sora*

I friggen loved Kingdom Hearts, so two points lost are meaningless to me.

***Stats websites***

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/extrapolated.php

Summer 2002 Extrapotated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k2_extrapolated.htm

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k3_extrapolated.htm

Character comparisons Between Summer 2002 and Summer 2003:
http://sc2k4.com/summer_comparisons.php

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

***Stats topics***

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k4.com/update.php (add "?pollid=[4-digit poll number]" at the end of url to look at charts from past polls)

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=2

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=3

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=2

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Whoa, a 0 posted stats topic. First time for everything, I guess.

Tagged for future reference.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

*sets up camp*
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sora vs. Ryu - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Ryu (58/60)

*claps with Ulti* ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

Yay for Chain of Memories!
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Summer Contest Current Score:59/60
Next Picks:Sora,Samus

Meh. I definitely prefer Hayabusa.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

GO SORA!
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Supporter of Sora. Ryu's current status: Ass kicked. Mission accomplished Sora!
Sora's next opponent/fodder:Sam Fisher. GO SORA! w00t.

Wow, I just got back from school and this match has increased since I woke up.

60% when I woke up, now 61%. Even I didn't see Sora doing this much damage...

The good news for me is that this match will save my bracket.

Chances are, all the perfects are gone, and thusly only 1 point ahead of me.

I'm sure most of the -1 pointers lost this match, thusly are tied with me.

-2 Pointers are now behind me.

This is great cause I don't plan on missing anymore matches, and i'll be VERY close to at least being on the leaderboard before this contest is over.
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Dub T's Sc2k4 bracket : 57 of 60
Next Match: Sora vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Question: Why did #63 get created when #62 barely hit 263 posts?
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Dub T's Sc2k4 bracket : 57 of 60
Next Match: Sora vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Its a shame Ryu lost so horribly

I cant really blame the pic, but he wouldve done much better.
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Score:52/56 Todays Pick: Sonic
Token Regis Philbin of Board 8

I've been creating the topics around this time for awhile now. We're going through a topic every 1-2 days, anyway.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

doh, thanks to sora's schooling of hayabusa, it looks like i'm waving goodbye to the leaderboard. at least i got up to #40 before my fall from grace, and with a bit of luck i'll be back up there after mario-crono 3

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Lancelot BT, gawdess of the Legends and Official owner of the "Hi, my name is (user name) and I'm a (user level)." Topic ®™

Part of the 63rd version of history!
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By the way, bj good, your posts speak of wisdom as well as your name. - sakbato88

What saddens and amazes me is that Ryu couldn't even pull something respectable from the unpredictable X-Box daytime vote. In fact, all through-out today, Sora kept beating Ryu worse and worse.

Fear Sora next year.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Even with a new game I still don't see Sora quite all the way up there.

The Noble Nine will probably switch around with new games and stuff. I see it next year as:

Link
Cloud
Samus (Not a Typo)
Sephiroth
MegaMan
Crono
Mario
Snake
Sonic

then I think Gannondorf will take the 10 spot and MAYBE even the nine (this depends on a summer Zelda 10 release). Then I still think Tidus, Shadow, and Zero will stay ahead of him.

Even with a new game I still don't see Sora quite all the way up there.

The Noble Nine will probably switch around with new games and stuff. I see it next year as:

Link
Cloud
Samus (Not a Typo)
Sephiroth
MegaMan
Crono
Mario
Snake
Sonic

then I think Gannondorf will take the 10 spot and MAYBE even the nine (this depends on a summer Zelda 10 release). Then I still think Tidus, Shadow, and Zero will stay ahead of him.

Here's my idea of the order next year...

Link/Samus (I'll have to wait and see on this; it all depends on LoZ10 and MP2:Echoes)
Cloud/Sephiroth (FF:AC could change things between 'em like how KH did)
Mega Man
Solid Snake (if MGS3 has him in it at all, and it'd be awesome if he played a large role)
Mario/Crono
Sonic/#10-#12 (you know without SFF matches, it'll be close here again)

From what I've seen so far and my future assumptions, I can see Ganondorf/Sora/Master Chief dueling it out for that position. Seriously about Master Chief, though it depends on how many Halo 2 fans'll come here. I expect enough to be honest Sweet Sixteen material and give Sonic a good match.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

If anybody wants a copy of my XS program, ask and ye shall receive.

Oh, and Sora is stronger than Aeris and a touch weaker than Zero if Jill stayed constant. 0_o
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

*tag* Most shocking beating ever...
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Anxiously awaiting... CRONO vs. mario
GameFAQs Claim to Fame: 8 hours of Superman 64... and counting...

Squall vs. Luigi wasn't more shocking? From what I've heard there was a much bigger fuss over that match...
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Oh, and Sora is stronger than Aeris and a touch weaker than Zero if Jill stayed constant. 0_o

If that's the case, we discover we have been REVERSE SFF'D...a year ago, and didn't even realize it.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

I may take until 2006 for Samus to fully be appreciated for Echoes, but she'll get there. She may wind up being the second strongest character in this contest, which could very well **** up the stats in disgusting favor for Link should she and Link ever have a match with each other.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

HM would have a coronary if Samus took over the second place spot for Nintendo characters >>>>>>>>>>XD.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Squall vs. Luigi wasn't more shocking? From what I've heard there was a much bigger fuss over that match...

I remember the hell that was. Almost like 'Nam, except replace each bullet shot with an account suicide.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

I think that, if Samus can avoid the misfortune of facing Link, she can win it all next year.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Why did Samus drop so much from 2002 to 2004? Anyway, one could say the same thing about Mega Man, 300k copies of MMAC aside.

Well, see, there's at least some explanation for Mega Man. MMAC was always thought to help him out, but most just figured it wouldn't be by much. Samus though just didn't have much of anything released and she's looking insanely strong.

The drop from 2002 to 2003 is interesting, because it looks like Sonic dropped in 2003 and then stayed that way in 2004; Samus on the other hand has just bounced back completely from that odd drop.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Squall vs. Luigi wasn't more shocking? From what I've heard there was a much bigger fuss over that match...

Heh, the mere mention of that match always brings a smile to my face. At least with Sora-Hayabusa, we acknowledged that Sora had a chance to win and would probably keep it close. I don't recall anyone who said that Squall-Luigi would be close.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

If she can drop for no reason, maybe she can increase for no reason, too. I wish I could say Link/Samus SFF, but that's way too unlikely given how everyone else who should have been affected performed.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Samus ain't beating Link. She didn't beat him last year, and there's no logical reason for her to beat him last year. Even if she's more popular than last year's stats indicated, she'll still get SFF'd to hell.

Oh, and why is no one commenting on the ugly ass front page?!!
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"Sonic has never asked me to do anything for him before. I promise that I will not let him down."--Miles "Tails" Prower

So now it's time for this topic. We're on the discussion of Samus' increase, and how she appears to be on the level of Clinkeroth. Samus is on pace to come close to or match Link's second-round vote total, but she's doing it without SFF helping her.

Samus probably couldn't beat link because of SFF, but she looks strong enough to challenge Cloud right now.
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I think everyone's overestimating SFF after seeing the same game beatdowns of the Hyrule Division. Those are usually the only instances where SFF is massive. Link-Samus SFF was imperceptible last year, and I couldn't see it being any different this year.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

That's why Mega Man is going to upset Link and Samus will beat him in the finals. Sorry, HM, but right now that's my dream final.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

I'm not trying to deny Samus' increase, rather, I'm just trying to figure out why she would go up so much. The only game she's had is Metroid: Zero Mission on the GBA. Doesn't seem like the greatest candidate for such an increase, but who knows?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

"she didn't beat him last year, and there's no logical reason for her to beat him this year."
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"Sonic has never asked me to do anything for him before. I promise that I will not let him down."--Miles "Tails" Prower

Bro it's simply because Fisher is VERRRRYYYY WEAK. No more discussion.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Maybe Metroid Prime just needed an extra year to settle in with the crowd.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

That's why Mega Man is going to upset Link and Samus will beat him in the finals. Sorry, HM, but right now that's my dream final.

I can live with you having Mega Man in the finals. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 9/18/2004 3:20:42 PM | Message Detail
That's why Mega Man is going to upset Link and Samus will beat him in the finals. Sorry, HM, but right now that's my dream final.

That dream won't become a reality.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

"she didn't beat him last year, and there's no logical reason for her to beat him this year."

Right. Which is why Cloud could never beat Mario in 2k3, right? Whatever.

HM, don't underestimate the popularity of MZM.
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That dream won't become a reality.

It very well might. If anyone is going to take down one of the big 3 it'll be Mega Man or Samus.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

That's why Mega Man is going to upset Link and Samus will beat him in the finals. Sorry, HM, but right now that's my dream final.

That dream won't become a reality.

I agree. I have Mega Man beating Samus in my dream.
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Link can't be taken down. It's NEVER eeevveerrr gonna happen. No matter how close the match is, Link won't lose to anyone but Seph/Cloud.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

I think it will probably turn out like this with the Noble Nine, based on the way things have gone so far.

Cloud
Link
Samus/Mega Man/Sephiroth. All three will be competing for that third spot.
Crono
Mario
Sonic
Snake

The tenth spot should go to Auron, unless I'm completely wrong about him being stronger than Vivi. I hope I am wrong. Tidus might have a good shot as well. Frog and Sora also have very outside shots. To the guy who said Ganondorf, no freaking way. That SFF was 25% WORSE than Link/Samus SFF. Ganondorf will be extremely lucky to make the top 30 with those numbers.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

I'm telling you right now, link gets the silver. There is not even a slight hope he won't place second.

Cloud/Seph will be there to rough Link up. Besides that Link should win 55-45 on Mega.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Samus can't take down Link, but Mega Man sure can.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

It very well might. If anyone is going to take down one of the big 3 it'll be Mega Man or Samus.

You forgot to include Squall. Hey, if Aeris can get reverse SFF due to Kingdom Hearts, why not Squall?


....What? Let me dream a little longer.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Tediz, if you did a list like that based on the way things are going so far, Samus would top the list.
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HM your predictions have been sooo off. Yet you expect me to believe Mega has a shot. Stop dreaming and wakeup.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

HM has actually been quite accurate so far. My question is who are you and why should we care?
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HM your predictions have been sooo off.

What? I think I've been on quite a streak as of late.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

That's assuming Samus would beat Cloud. We all know there's no chance in hell she would beat Link. If the Samus/Link championship happened, that would do bad things to the stats.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

Well since I'm not on the boards to often I really don't have the right to say that, but poor you, I always hear from so many peeps 'I got this wrong cuz of hm or blah blah thsi wrong cuz of hm and i go "HM GOT THAT MANY WRONG?!"'

lol
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Well, except for the two previous days...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Mega Man
Cloud
Samus
Link
Sephiroth
Mario
Crono
Solid Snake
Sonic

That's how I see the Noble Nine this year.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Link can't be taken down. It's NEVER eeevveerrr gonna happen. No matter how close the match is, Link won't lose to anyone but Seph/Cloud.

Link can't be taken down. It's NEVER eeevveerrr gonna happen. No matter how close the match is, Link won't lose to anyone.

Version 2k3.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

I said link can lose to cloud or seph. Can't you read n00b?
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

A Nintendo character ahead of Link? Just can't see it.

Also, switch Mario and Crono, Sonic and Snake, put Cloud at the top, and put Samus slightly ahead of Mega Man. That's how I see it right now.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I got Mega Man vs Tidus dead on; Sonic vs Ryu was .24% off from what I went with; and Dante vs Tails was about 4% off what I predicted. As for matches correct, I've only missed two so far (Joe vs Tails; Hayabusa vs Sora)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I said link can lose to cloud or seph. Can't you read n00b?

No comment.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

I don't think Samus would ever beat Link head-to-head, but if she keeps this up I could see her ranking ahead of Link.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Lol yup, those are the two every1 complains about. Are you like the advice man or something? Because so many must flock to you for it.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

I think Samus would have to beat Cloud before I'd put her ahead of Link.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

We could have an interesting series this year. Samus > Mega Man > Link > Samus? The RPS effect.

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The winner of seph/cloud is gonna KILL samus.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

I think Samus would have to beat Cloud before I'd put her ahead of Link.

She will if she continues to look like this.
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"I said link can lose to cloud or seph. Can't you read n00b?

No comment."

Wasn't worth a comment, not even a "no comment"
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

*sigh*

My point was that in 2k3, everyone figured Link would have an easy repeat win. Nobody though Cloud/Seph could stand against him. Everyone ignored the warning signs from Cloud/Seph, and then when Cloud actually beat Link, people realized that they should have seen at least a very close match coming.

Now, Mega and Samus are both performing way above expectations, yet people still think that there's no way either of them will beat Clinkeroth. Making the exact same mistake as last year.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Putting Link ahead of Samus at anytime is just crazy. Look at what link did to her in 2003. Link will not be reverse SFF'd by any Nintendo character.

Not Mario, not Samus, not ANYONE!
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

That would be seriously awesome if Samus did beat Cloud/Seph. Ugh, I jsut can't envision it though.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

I agree that Link will never lose directly to another Nintendo character. However, Mega Man looks like he could take out Link, and I'd pick Samus over Mega Man judging by their first round performances.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

I already said Link wouldn't lose to her in a head-to-head match, but ranking ahead of him is a different story...

Almost like with Sora-Aeris.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Mega Man/Samus is my dream final. Could it happen? O_O
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Agreed.

Samus over Mega I think is a safe bet to an extent. If Link SFF'd G-dorf to hell, I wonder what mega can do to zero. But zero is much cooler though, so I doubt that will give us answers. Snake and Mega will.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

And now, my take on what happens the rest of the contest.

*Samus gets 81% on Sam Fisher*

Board 8: Just wait till Sora.

*Samus gets 68% on Sora*

Board 8: Just wait till Sonic.

*Samus gets 62% on Sonic*

Board 8: Just wait till Cloud.

*Samus gets 52% on Cloud*

Board 8: Just wait till Link... *looks at results* Uh, just wait till Mega Man...

*Mega Man gets 51% on Samus*

Board 8: HA! WE TOLD YOU SAMUS WOULD NEVER WIN!

Heroic Mario: You said Mega Man would never win, either.

Board 8: Uh... we... er... DAMMIT!
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There's an old saying in Texas... fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again. - Dubya

That would be seriously awesome if Samus did beat Cloud/Seph. Ugh, I jsut can't envision it though.

Can you envision CATS beating Lara Croft? Because that's what happens if Samus hasn't increased at all.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

If a Mega Man/Samus final does happen, who will get prizes? Most people with that final probably didn't think they had a serious shot and only entered a non-prize bracket.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

Link/Ganon SFF is a once-in-a-lifetime thing. No character will probably ever be SFF'd that badly again.

That being said, I believe Zero has a decent-sized fanbase that will vote him over Mega, so I expected Mega to get between 70-75%.
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

Gooper Blooper, that was hilarious. And it's probably what's going to happen, should that chain of events occur.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Actually, I could see CATS beating Lara Croft... Seriously....

On second thought... No, I really couldn't.
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I chose the road less traveled -- now where the heck am I?
A Picture Is Worth 1,000 Words, But It Uses Up a Thousand Times the Memory

But zero is much cooler though, so I doubt that will give us answers.

I'm willing to bet that unlike Bowser and Magus, Zero has his own fans, not just guys who'll leave him if he fights the hero. *looks at the pieces of Dorf stewn about*
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There's an old saying in Texas... fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again. - Dubya

I love mario so much, I don't think crono deserves to win at all (I know I'm changing the subject) but what makes people think crono has NO SHOT AT ALL. These people being the same who said 'OMFG T3H SORA HAS NO SHOT'.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Anyone who thinks Crono has no shot doesn't know jack.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Crono DOESN'T deserve to beat Mario and move on to the Elite 8.

But the sad thing is that Crono will win.
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

XD Funny stuff Gooper.

As for Mega Man vs Zero, unlike other SFF matches there is a good portion of the Mega Man fanbase that does prefer Zero over Mega Man/X. He's branched out to have gotten his own series and most people love it. The SFF shouldn't be anything extreme. He isn't riding the popularity of the main hero. *points to Ganondorf*
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Right. Which is why Cloud could never beat Mario in 2k3, right? Whatever.

Mario Vs. Cloud was a hell of a lot closer than Samus Vs. Link.
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"Sonic has never asked me to do anything for him before. I promise that I will not let him down."--Miles "Tails" Prower

Hah! I'm so happy I ditched the plumber this year. I had him in 02 and 03 winning versus crono. And I had CT beating SMB3. Perhaps I'll be 4/4 with this dispute.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Mario will not be losing the match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Yes he will.
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

There is no WILL that deserves to be there after how good a fight Crono put u last year. He's so weak compared to higher level guys, getting past Crono isn't a huge accomplishment. Plus Crono would actually make for a DECENT Link match. I don't want to wait for Link vs Mega to see Link barely try.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Let us pray not.
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~courtesy of mr wednesday

Crono doesn't deserve it? What a load of bull. If Crono can pull it off he deserves it as much as anybody else. Hell, the fact that two years running Crono has been so damn close to Mario shows that he deserves it. Mario isn't vastly superior by any means, they are equals, and they both deserve the win equally, if you look at the match individually. Only thing that changes that is that Mario has won twice already. If anything, it's Crono that deserves it more, especially after last year's suspicious finale.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

As much as I love Mario, and he's clearly the better character (even though CT is my 2nd favorite game), I want Crono to win. Purely from a stats standpoint, I want to see how well he does on Link.

Besides, then we get "..." versus "SEE YA!"
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

I'm worried. But I remain confident that some KA-RAAAAAAAAZY stunt will occur and Mario wins.
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There's an old saying in Texas... fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again. - Dubya

Bah i msut forget my love for the plumber. GO CRONO!
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

I don't want to wait for Link vs Mega to see Link barely try.

Link will be lucky to come out of that match a winner, much less "barely try".
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Darnit Hm with your optimism. Last year you failed, this year you'll fail.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

I'd also love to see Link/Crono. Link/Mario was crap the first time, and would suck again if we saw it. Link/Crono on the other hand would tell us alot more about Link and Crono's strengths this year, and would be Crono's toughest opponent ever.
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

Crono never speaks in ellipses. Such a misconception.
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Time for me to logoff and go to work. God speed to yoshi because Link's gonna eviscerate him pour his guts everywhere. Peace.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Crono needs to prove he can beat Mario before he gets a new "toughest opponent ever", especially since they're so close anyways. Besides, I'm down for seein' Link/Mario again, if just to keep Link/Mega Man a mystery even moreso.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

"getting past Crono isn't a huge accomplishment."

Which is why only one character has ever done it, and also why attempts from another Noble Nine member failed (Snake). Yeah, no huge accomplishment there, just something only 6 characters are capable of.

"Darnit Hm with your optimism. Last year you failed, this year you'll fail."

IIRC, he failed by backing Link...

"Link/Crono on the other hand would tell us alot more about Link and Crono's strengths this year"

And a lot more about Mario, as well.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Plus, Crono would be a much better gauge of Link's current strength than Mario. I don't want to have to wait until the Final Four to see what Link is actually made of.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I went down backing Link last year, but it was about Round 3 where I started spreading word that Cloud was a damn beast... however I was called "delusional".
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

For statistical purposes Crono needs to beat Mario; for my own preference/bracket Mario needs to win.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Just like you're delusional for backing Mega Man to win.

Just like I'm delusional for hoping that my sig occurs. ;)
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Exactly. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

For statistical purposes Crono needs to beat Mario; for my own preference/bracket Mario needs to win.

Just move the bracket part to why Crono needs to beat Mario, and that's exactly how I feel about the match.
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

Hoping isn't delusional... Thinking that is going to happen is delusional... I hope it happens too though...
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A Picture Is Worth 1,000 Words, But It Uses Up a Thousand Times the Memory

Statistically, yeah, Crono'd be better...but come on, the rest of the bracket is in shambles already, let's just have fun with it now. =)
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

There's nothing delusional about the truth.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

"but come on, the rest of the bracket is in shambles already,"

I've already gone over this issue, half the bracket is flawless, and the majority of what remains can easily be fixed. However, if Mario loses to Crono the lower half of the Hyrule division will alwyas be in complete uncertainty. If Crono wins, however, we are easily able to use Magus 2k3 and Bowser 2k3 and find ourselves with a very good looking second half of the bracket. Ganon 2k3 makes Link's 4 pack perfect. All that remains in relative uncertainty then is Yoshi's fourpack, and on that we cna still do plenty of decent guesswork. The bracket, for the most part is easily fixable.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

I'd rather do my own guesswork on those situations than let other do it for me; hell, i wish there wouldn't be an adjusted extrapolated ranking system this year. Let the ones who live and die by it live and die by it.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

There's nothing delusional about the truth.

Only one's perception of it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Let the ones who live and die by it live and die by it.

They [we] will die by it, if Mega or Samus win.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Pretty much the only people who use the XSt are the ones intelligent enough to know that Ganon isn't really weaker than CATS, first of all. Second of all, there's next to no guess work involved in te majority of it. 2k3 number for most cahracter are highly reliable and unchanged. Yes, there is room for minor difference, but the XSt was never meant to be relied on 100% anyway. Using stable numbers from 2k3 we will with certainty nail down 75% of the bracket this year, and we'll have the rest of it really friggin' close. You're always welcome to do your own guesswork, of course, in fact if you don't do your own then you're pretty well screwed... however, we're talking about straightening out the stats, not providing guesswork.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Let's just wait until Cloud vs. Samus to see how well Samus can bold against Cloud..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

For Samus to even be equal to Cloud, Sam would have to drop to Bomberman/Vyse/Isaac's level despite having a new game.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

You mean wait and let's see if Cloud can compare to Samus. Right now Samus is the more impressive one. And Cloud/Sephiroth is still up in the air.

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I am Lucid Faia.

As far as I'm concerned, Cloud vs Sephiroth was never a debatable match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

It's not like he's all that far away or anything.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Sephy hasn't been all that impressive (failing to SFF Vivi?), and Cloud seems pretty much par for the course. I'm definitely going with Cloud on that one.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

The only reason it's even debatable is because of how close it was last year. As I've said before, I wouldn't be surprised if Cloud won by more than last year. Not anything way out there, but maybe 52%.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

The One-Winged Angel falls within Midgar.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

You mean wait and let's see if Cloud can compare to Samus. Right now Samus is the more impressive one. And Cloud/Sephiroth is still up in the air.

No.. I am sticking to what I said earlier... Let's see how well Samus bolds against Cloud..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

I agree with HM. Cloud beat Seph last year, there's no way Seph will win this one.

The only argument I've heard for Seph is that he will win thanks to the dreaded Anti-Champion vote. Oh noes! I'm so scared.
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

IIRC, Vivi's match against Seph was the only match in contest history that should have had SFF, but the loser actually overperformed, even if it was only by a half percent. That doesn't look particularly good for Seph's record.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Better be careful. Squall might just rampage through Midgar instead.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

As far as I'm concerned, Cloud vs Sephiroth was never a debatable match.

Agreed.. As far as I can see.. Sephiroth can never beat Cloud..

*puts up flame shield for people who put Sephiroth > Cloud*


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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Okay. In that case, Cloud/Sephiroth is a sure thing. Cloud/Samus however, is not. Not anymore.

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I am Lucid Faia.

I think there'll be twice as many bracket-votes as there will be anti-champion votes, personally.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

What would Samus have to get on Sora for you guys to think that Samus overperformed?

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

I think there'll be twice as many bracket-votes as there will be anti-champion votes, personally.
Yeah like 10 and 5 respectively =P
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle),
SC2k4 Oracle Challenge - Topic ID : 16274996

I think there'll be twice as many bracket-votes as there will be anti-champion votes, personally.

So that's what, 100 antichamps and 200 brackets?

What would Samus have to get on Sora for you guys to think that Samus overperformed?

Given that I have no earthly idea where Sora ranks now, I can't give any percentages.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Yeah, and I would be one to consider the possibility that Vivi is impossible to SFF. People who hate the very game he is from love him, so I find it highly unlikely that anything (even SFF) can make the little Mage budge even an inch.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

If Samus fails to break 65% on Sora, then she's going do to Cloud.
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

*down
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

What if Samus were to get 70% on Sora.. Is that overperforming?? It's kind of hard to tell since we really don't know much about Sora...

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

If Sora is as legitimately strong as yesterday's match would lead us to believe, 70% on Sora gives 55% on Link.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Well, if she gets 70%, then that shows that her matches with Lara and Sam weren't flukes, and that she has a shot against Cloud.
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

If Samus breaks 70% on Sora, Cloud had better start packing it up, because he'll be leaving the contest early.

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I am Lucid Faia.

My vote goes to Cloud in the semi-final.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

^^^
Samus is going to get 65% on Sora.

It's the perfect 65-35 match up.

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Pick: Samus. Vote: Samus. 55/62

Samus is going to get 65% on Sora.

I'm fairly confident in her at least breaking 70%, and I wouldn't be that surprised to see her approach 80% again, though that would indicate a fairly big dive for Jill.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

If Samus gets 80% on Sora, this contest is OVER. No amount of SFF could save Link if that happens.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I think Samus will do about as well as Aeris did. Samus is stronger but Aeris had SFF backing her.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

If Samus gets 80% on Sora, this contest is OVER. No amount of SFF could save Link if that happens.

Agreed.
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You have to admit going by Zero >= Sora > Aeris seems fairly absurd. Jill must have dropped, the question is by how much. Samus could realistically hit anywhere between 65 and 80%. Samus/Sora really won't tell us anything about either character, simply because both have been so erratic in their first round matches.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Here's something Lucid posted in the other topic.

SC2k4 Poll Updater

Link vs Ganondorf (SFF match)

2004-09-03 11:43:02
Link has 37844 votes

Samus vs Sam Fisher (Non-SFF match)

2004-09-18 11:42:55
Samus has 36470 votes
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(Calculations based on current score: Samus @ 80.86%)
[All values are in constant Link score]
Samus based on constant Lara: 64.88%
Samus based on constant Sam: 61.57%
Samus based on constant Gordon: 46.47%

Sora stable: 21.88%
Aeris: 32.81%
Sora based on constant Jill: 33.15%

The bare minimum Samus can get against Sora is 64.33%, and that's assuming Jill didn't move, Sora went up like crazy and Sam dropped like a stone. Now if we assume that Sora went up by as much as Jill dropped, Cloud would be expected to get 74% on Sora.

So IMO anything over 75% for Samus would be pretty close to Game, Set and Match for our favorite Bounty Hunter; 68-75% prepares us for a damn good fight against Cloud; anything lower than that doesn't sound good.

80%??? If she gets 80% on Sora she'll dominate this contest like Link did in 2k2.
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If Samus gets 80% on Sora...probably even 75...then Clinkeroth will have to be changed to...




Samus
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

Okay, fine, I just did the math myself (well, my program did it), and yes, I admit that 80% is too high. My oracle pick is going to be mid 70's, though, and I expect Samus to reach it.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

68-75% prepares us for a damn good fight against Cloud; anything lower than that doesn't sound good.

but I thought sora had a chance of being close to squall now who got 41.8 on her.

and, someone had posted that did anyone see sqaull vs luigi coming, and muwhahwaahw I did. but I don't really count for last year, because I was new, I did have the nicest oracle pick though for it. : )

hmm, also squall/cloud will be a decent indicator, not great, because we do have samus' numbers against him. still though sff and a samus increase skew it, but if he does worse, by some miracle, that wouldn't exactly hold well for cloud.

also from 2k2:
Samus Aran 47.36% 46047
Sephiroth 52.64% 51177
TOTAL VOTES 97224

she once was very close, granted this is before the boost, but still, its not out of question.
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Currently, I'm thinking Sora is around Alucard's level and that puts Jill/Hayabusa around Lara/Ramza. Going by that, I'm guessing around 75% for Samus against Sora, if she can keep up the domination. That leads to about 55% on Link.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Hey. I'm new to this series of discussion, but I do have one question for all of you before I go to dinner. We all know that Samus will defeat Sora in the next round, and that match could possibly show Samus' true power in this year's contest. What I want to know is how much do you think Samus needs to get on Sonic to prove her status as a true contender for this year's title?
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Official member of the Ghaleon Awareness Movement

Samus needs to double Sonic, just like Cloud did last year.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

65+ on Sonic to be a contender. If she gets a good deal more than that she just wins. Period.


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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

I friggen loved Kingdom Hearts, so two points lost are meaningless to me.

I loved Kingdom Hearts, too, but Sora himself was lame.

Anyway…

Currently, I'm thinking Sora is around Alucard's level and that puts Jill/Hayabusa around Lara/Ramza. Going by that, I'm guessing around 75% for Samus against Sora, if she can keep up the domination. That leads to about 55% on Link.

It all made sense until that last part.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 58/62, Next Winner: Samus

It all made sense until that last part.

Neither does Samus/Lara leading to 65.88% on Link for Samus.

Neither does Samus/Sam leading to 61.54% on Link for Samus.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Yeah, smitelf. I think you've missed it, but Samus is looking stronger than Cloud right now.
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Yeah, smitelf. I think you've missed it, but Samus is looking stronger than Cloud right now.

I didn't miss anything, I just think it's bull****.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 58/62, Next Winner: Samus

I think you guys are way overestimating Samus. What today's match says is that Lara Croft = Gordon Freeman. 83% on Gordon Freeman isn't that impressive.
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Supporter of Sonic for SC2K4.
58/62 Current Pick: Samus Aran Next Pick: Link

If Samus gets 80% on Sora, this contest is OVER. No amount of SFF could save Link if that happens.

Link has crushed Samus in the past.

Link has been pretty strong so far, but we aren't going to see his true strength for a while....

;We're not going to see Link in a real match for a bit.

Vs. CATS? Crush, but its CATS.
Vs. Ganon? SFF
Vs. Yoshi? SFF
Vs. Mario if he wins? SFF
So all we'll really have is Crono if he beats Mario and Mega Man, before seeing how'd he do versus anyone else.




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Pick: Samus. Vote: Samus. 55/62

Both of you should look through this topic and the last parts of Part 62. We've already covered everything, explored all the possibilities. If Samus gets in the 70s against Sora, be very afraid.
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Heh, maybe it's just some sort of contest fate for a new character or two to jump up and contend for the title, regardless of the reason. Last year, it was Cloud and Sephiroth. This year, it's Mega Man and Samus. Who's next year? Mario and Crono?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I friggen loved Kingdom Hearts, so two points lost are meaningless to me.

... 6/10 is loving? so you DIDn'T hate OoT as much as I thought =X
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

I didn't miss anything, I just think it's bull****.

If it happens once, maybe. If it happens twice, upset flags should start waving. *cough2k3Cloudcough*

I think you guys are way overestimating Samus. What today's match says is that Lara Croft = Gordon Freeman. 83% on Gordon Freeman isn't that impressive.

And I think you're way underestimating Lara and Sam. Do I have to tell you how much they fall if Samus is unchanged, or even merely equal to Cloud?
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Both of you should look through this topic and the last parts of Part 62. We've already covered everything, explored all the possibilities. If Samus gets in the 70s against Sora, be very afraid.

I have, thanks, and I disagree.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 58/62, Next Winner: Samus

Ah, don't bother trying to convince some people. There were still those who didn't see Cloud as a threat to Link even after he doubled Sonic.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Crono?

This just in! The true reason why Square forced the Chrono Trigger Ressurection Project to close was to hire those programmers for the CT Remake!

...well, it could happen >>

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Also, the women all have beards. Either that, or there are no dwarven women. Yeah, I could see that. This is Suikoden after all. -http://videogamerecaps.com

If Chrono Trigger did get a remake with updated graphics and it got heavily marketed, it'd work wonders for Crono, methinks.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I have, thanks, and I disagree.

So is there a reason you disagree? Right now we have evidence that Samus has gone up big time. Cloud and Seph went up a lot last year, who's to say we can't see another increase this year?
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Ah, don't bother trying to convince some people. There were still those who didn't see Cloud as a threat to Link even after he doubled Sonic.

Sonic is noble nine. Sam Fisher isn't even in the top half of of the extrapolateds. Forgive me for being unimpressed.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 58/62, Next Winner: Samus

Current Score : 59

And I once again fall into the group that is around 51st place.
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Should I just sip on some tea, say cheerio, and have a biscuit if I am upset with you? - Sir Chris

Unimpressed by two straight rounds of something that neither Cloud nor Link would've been expected to do? Eh, suit yourself.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Samus is taking 2 horrible weak characters. Her fight with Sora is when we will see how strong she really are.
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Sora and Andel both defeated me in the Summer Contest.58/62

And the fact that Samus is putting up similar numbers on two characters who would've been expected to go 52/48 (in Fisher's favor) last year makes you wonder how much of this actually is her increasing.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Then how about the fact that Samus' vote total at this time rivals that of Link's, who had SFF backing him?
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Not only is Samus outperforming Clinkeroth, she's fairly consistent.

1. C vs B
2. C vs A
3. B vs A
4. Manage XS
1
C's name? LaraCroft
B's name? Samus
LaraCroft would get 30.1133 on Samus
Samus would beat LaraCroft with 69.8867
Compare to an actual value? y/n:y
What was the actual percentage for the loser? 17.61

Samus is overperforming by 12.5033%
Calculate new values? y/n: y

If LaraCroft stayed constant,
Samus changes to 64.8779% on Link,
a difference of 26.9379

Alternately, if Samus stayed constant,
LaraCroft changes to 13.3625% on Link,
a difference of -9.48753


1. C vs B
2. C vs A
3. B vs A
4. Manage XS
1
C's name? SamFisher
B's name? Samus
SamFisher would get 31.0622 on Samus
Samus would beat SamFisher with 68.9378
Compare to an actual value? y/n:y
What was the actual percentage for the loser? 19.15

Samus is overperforming by 11.9122%
Calculate new values? y/n: y

If SamFisher stayed constant,
Samus changes to 61.5405% on Link,
a difference of 23.6005

Alternately, if Samus stayed constant,
SamFisher changes to 14.531% on Link,
a difference of -9.03898
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Weak, huh? Going by last year's numbers, Sam Fisher is roughly the equivalent of KOS-MOS, and Samus couldn't even get 70% on her last year.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Sam had bracket votes when he faced Magus, a character that was new and not that wellknown. We have to wait until she faces Sora until we can say if she is that great.
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Sora and Andel both defeated me in the Summer Contest.58/62

I'm fairly confident in her at least breaking 70%, and I wouldn't be that surprised to see her approach 80% again, though that would indicate a fairly big dive for Jill.

Which would make more sense when RE4 comes out, and Leon is the new star of the series.
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And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

Sam had bracket votes when he faced Magus, a character that was new and not that wellknown. We have to wait until she faces Sora until we can say if she is that great.

1. Bracket voters don't matter.

2. Didn't people say "wait for Samus/Sam. Then we'll see if she's all that great" last round?

3. Since we don't know where Sora is, the percentage could be just about anything.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Who's next year? Mario and Crono?

BEST. FINALS. EVAR.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Heh, that would be great. CJayC puts Mario and Crono on opposite sides of the bracket and everyone thinks it's finally over.

...And then they meet in the finals.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

XD
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I believe that there was a serious overperformance by Fisher on Magus last year.
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Care to explain why?
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Because he doesn't want to believe that Samus is that strong this year.
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Well, I suggested the idea earlier, but at this point, it's all conjecture. Like I said, the fact that Samus is putting up nearly identical performances against two characters who were relatively close in strength makes you wonder how much of this is actually Ms. Aran herself.
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I'll explain why.

VOODOO.

Nothing but old-fashioned VOODOO.
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And I find it hard to believe that Samus just suddenly is champion material. How do you go from being the 3rd strongest Nintendo character to 1st?

At least Cloud and Sephiroth were the strongest Square characters BEFORE they got a big jump.

I don't care if she gets 99% on Sora. I'm not budging until I see how she does against Sonic.

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Did it occur to you that maybe Sam Fisher has suffered a decrease, and maybe even *gasp* Lara Croft, who has certainly never decreased in popularity before? I'm not denying a Samus increase, but I see no evidence that it's massive enough for her to take Cloud or (especially) Link on. You're jumping the gun on declaring her major competition.

And, no, 70%+ on Sora wouldn't impress me, because I'm not convinced that Sora has made any drastic increase, either. The only returning character he can remotely be compared to is Jill Valentine who, again, would be considered pretty high-risk for a decrease in popularity.

Now, would 75%+ on Sora impress me? Probably.
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Did it occur to you that Sam Fisher decreasing with Pandora Tomorrow being released since last year sounds kind of... odd? And I told you, we've factored this all in. Even if Sam DID decrease for some strange reason, Samus is STILL looking that strong.
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VOODOO.

Nothing but old-fashioned VOODOO.

You do voodoo?

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Care to explain why?

Because Sam Fisher couldn't break 55% on Gordon Freeman.
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I tried voodoo and got blue goo on my shoe. at least it wasn't doo-doo or I'd say oh foo.
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Ignoring the stats, who would you pick to win this match...

Sam vs. Vyse
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Lara Croft and Sam Fisher become weaker than Gordon Freeman (or really close, at any rate) if this is mostly decreases on the part of the opponent. It's hard to imagine Sam taking that big of a dive considering he's actually had a game since last year.

There's the whole fodder fluctuation thing, but I already explained that concerning Magus-Sam Fisher.
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Did it occur to you that Sam Fisher decreasing with Pandora Tomorrow being released since last year sounds kind of... odd? And I told you, we've factored this all in. Even if Sam DID decrease for some strange reason, Samus is STILL looking that strong.

Yeah, well, as I said, I think your "factoring" is bull****. And no character is guaranteed an increase with a new game. Just because it happened to a bunch of Square characters last year doesn't mean that it's some magical new golden rule.

Whatever. You're obviously excitable, and I'm a little jaded after seeing the board hype go up and down constantly over every minor change in character stature. I'm not going to be convinced of an increase for Samus significant enough to beat Cloud until I see her perform at or around 75% against Sora. Time for dinner.
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Did it occur to you that maybe Sam Fisher has suffered a decrease, and maybe even *gasp* Lara Croft, who has certainly never decreased in popularity before?

For Samus to remain unchanged, Lara has to drop 9.5%, almost twice the biggest drop in contest history, to right under CATS. Sam has to drop nearly as much, 9.04%, to a bit above CATS. Do you see either of these being equal to CATS?

For Samus to be equal to Cloud, Lara has to drop 5.09%, to between Kite and an unadjusted Fox. Sam has to drop 3.81%, to between unadjusted Tails and Bomberman.

This is all despite Sam having a new, multiconsole game.
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My heart wants me to pick Vyse, but I don't think he'd win. I couldn't see him getting 33% on Magus.
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Ignoring the stats, who would you pick to win this match...

Sam vs. Vyse

As Heroic Mario would say,

"I'd take Vyse without thinking."
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I'd easily pick Sam.
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smitelf, you're wrong. Sorry.
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Ignoring the stats, who would you pick to win this match...

Sam vs. Vyse

I'd pick Vyse without thinking.
And I'd probably lose a point ;)
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2K2: Mega Man goes postal on Ms. Pac and SSS before bowing out in a close match against his first real competition.

2K3: Sephy tears apart his half of the field before bowing out in a close match against his first real competition.

Sound familiar? I'm not saying that it's going to happen again, but you have to admit that as good as Samus looks right now, there's still that bit of doubt if she can keep it up against people who actually DESERVE to be in the contest.
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Are people still trying to pass of Fisher decreasing? Have I not gone over that enough to drill it into some of you?
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Vyse VS. Sam would be a good one I think. Sam struggled to get 55% on freeman, and we know vyse would at the very least beat freeman because gordon freeman never wins, so they're pretty close at the very least.

But i'll go with vyse.
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2K3: Sephy tears apart his half of the field before bowing out in a close match against his first real competition.

...You don't consider Mario real competition?
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In 2k2 we didn't have stats to go by. MM's first couple opponents are among the worst in history, in retrospect.

2k3... Seph had no competition until Cloud? Are you kidding me?
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Wait, wait Mario and Mega Man aren't real competition? Since when?
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Since they couldn't hold Sephy-chan undder 60%. They're still strong, but to Mr. Roth, they were nothing.
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.........I'm just not even going to address that.
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.........I'm just not even going to address that.

I agree; it's not worth losing the brain cells over.
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By the way, if Samus and Megaman do perform at Clinkeroth levels when they face the three, what would we call the Top 5 characters that are head and shoulders above the rest? The Fab Five? >>

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Fab Five, heh. XP
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Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Bah, deli closed, no dinner for me:

For Samus to remain unchanged, Lara has to drop 9.5%, almost twice the biggest drop in contest history, to right under CATS. Sam has to drop nearly as much, 9.04%, to a bit above CATS. Do you see either of these being equal to CATS?

Can you read?

"I'm not denying a Samus increase, but I see no evidence that it's massive enough for her to take Cloud or (especially) Link on."

For Samus to be equal to Cloud, Lara has to drop 5.09%, to between Kite and an unadjusted Fox. Sam has to drop 3.81%, to between unadjusted Tails and Bomberman.

Yes, yes, I’ve heard all this before, but this doesn’t make this change the more likely one.

smitelf, you're wrong. Sorry.

WrathOfTheLamb, you’re easily swayed. Sorry.

Are people still trying to pass of Fisher decreasing? Have I not gone over that enough to drill it into some of you?

Fisher could have decreased, I’m not saying that’s the entirety of what is contributing to this but it’s still a factor to consider.
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It doesn't matter if Fisher did decrease this performance is still only 2% off of the max he can fall. There is a range in which Fisher can fall before his performance doesn't match up against Freeman. The range is 77-83%; 77% is if he didn't decrease whatsoever and the 83% is if he completely decreased on his own. Samus is performing at Cloud levels right now.
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Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

"I'm not denying a Samus increase, but I see no evidence that it's massive enough for her to take Cloud or (especially) Link on."

I second that. I see Samus getting 40-45% on Cloud.
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What Heroic Mario said
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I still want to know why some people are still not seeing this as anything special. Is it because some want to believe that Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth just can't be beaten and refuse to think of it happening? Honestly, both Mega Man and Samus have killed the X-sts predictions and most of the general predictions of people.
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wow, for once I completely agree with HM!
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What if we add in that 3% overperformance on Gordon's numbers that Max, Kirby, and Bomberman seemed to get in their matches? How does that impact Freeman's spot in the standings?
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You're not convincing me, I'm not convincing you. Let's wait until Samus vs. Sora. If Samus can muster around 75% -- heck, let's say 74% to be generous -- then I'll be a believer. It's not like I don't want her to increase; it would be damn cool. However, she needs to get around that much to convince me that she could be competition for Cloud.

Now, beating Link is an entirely different kettle of fish. She'd need to do a lot more convincing than that to make me think she could take him on, since she'd likely have to contend with SFF in that scenario (the day Link is on the ass end of SFF is the day Nintendo stops making handhelds).
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WrathOfTheLamb, you’re easily swayed. Sorry.

Considering I helped to start all of this talk... how can I sway myself?
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Considering I helped to start all of this talk... how can I sway myself?

Did I say you were swayed by talk? No. You've just been swayed by a bunch of matches where Samus has crushed some weak competition.
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No one's denying that this is impressive.
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Eh, Sam Fisher is stronger than a lot of people give him credit for. Then again, perhaps he overperformed against Magus. Wouldn't put it past him.
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I'll agree with you on that front. I think it would take a whole mess of impressive numbers in order to defeat Link. He is bound to get the SFF in that match; that completely takes away Samus' chance at winning unless she's quite a bit stronger.
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Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Fisher is relatively weak, but he's past the point where he's strong enough that a victory over him means something. Samus doing better against him than Link or Cloud would have been expected to do means something. Look, we've factored in EVERY possibility. A Sam decrease, a Samus increase, a combination of both, stuff regarding Lara Croft and whatnot, and Samus is still past the point that 2k3 Cloud would be at.
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.........I'm just not even going to address that.

What? Sephy not having any trouble until the final last year makes as much sense to me as expecting Samus to magically take down Cloud based on Sam Fisher and Lara Croft.
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I'll agree with you on that front. I think it would take a whole mess of impressive numbers in order to defeat Link. He is bound to get the SFF in that match; that completely takes away Samus' chance at winning unless she's quite a bit stronger.

Aren't you supposed to be figuring out out much Samus needs to beat MEGA MAN in the final? =P
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What's with the sudden jump onto the dropping of popularity thing though? Lara and Fisher both are very high ranking "fodder". Both had brand-new games come out within the past year, yet there's talk of both decreasing... and largely? I'll accept that it's possible, but I don't know why one would expect a drastic dive for either.
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Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

There's a difference between beating your opponents soundly and facing no competition.
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Aren't you supposed to be figuring out out much Samus needs to beat MEGA MAN in the final? =P

Heh. I was just speaking in a general sense, because Mega Man WILL be in the finals. =)
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At the very least I think we could all come to the agreement that Samus, and Mega Man, have both increased more than "just a little bit".
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Ok....we've reached Step 1...
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Yeah, there's no doubt that both of them increased. I'm just highly sceptical of how much they have.
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Fisher is relatively weak, but he's past the point where he's strong enough that a victory over him means something. Samus doing better against him than Link or Cloud would have been expected to do means something.

Agreed, to an extent. This kind of blowout does say something, but it doesn't say enough to convince me that Samus is suddenly in the running for the title. And, yes, she is doing better than we would have expected Cloud or Link to do against Fisher, but I see enough leeway in Sam's possible decrease, Samus' increase and margin of error in the stats for this to not put Samus at the top of the roster. Again, I am NOT saying she hasn't increased, just that she hasn't shown enough of an increase yet to be considered a title contender.

Look, we've factored in EVERY possibility.

Obviously not, since a moderate amount of reasoning has lead me to a conclusion that you can't seem to grasp.

I'm not bothering with this topic of discussion anymore (seriously, this time!). This is stupid until Samus shows her strength against Sora.
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Playing a bit of devil's advocate (or however that expression goes), does anyone think that the shift of the polls may have had contributed to Samus' absolute thrashing of fodder?

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You mean like the hardcore/regular gamers will scroll down and vote for Samus while the lazy casuals just click the red "X" and don't give their votes to Sam/Lara?
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Doubtful. It doesn't seem to have affected any other polls.
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Yes, sort of like that. We are comparing stats to last year's after all, so...

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I dont' think Samus could beat Link, but she does have a much better chance against cloud, and especially sephiroth, if she went up. And samus/sora imo isn't going to tell much either. we dont' know where sora is at this point. He crushed ryu, and crushed in the sense that we were predicting a ryu win, and it was a 60+ victory. So for Samus to kill Sora is asking a bit too much I think.
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For the love of God, this is an all too familiar scenario. Just that instead of "Cloud can't beat Link", it's "Samus can't beat Cloud". Now, I have NO IDEA how that boost happened, but there's the old saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

When Cloud beat the holy hell out of CATS we didn't think much of it because CATS was fodder anyway. We blamed SFF for Cloud/Auron (and it turns out there was ON TOP of the Cloud boost), and SFF only. We attributed Bowser's result to Bowser's 4-pack being 100% newbies and them just sucking THAT much. We ran out of excuses against Sonic.

Excuses, excuses. Samus is being less subtle than Cloud was and people are still all "there's no chance". Do people EVER learn from their mistakes? (If you picked Shadow or Luigi to beat Tidus or Yoshi, this is aimed at you especially.)
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Nice post, Slowflake.
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*agrees with Slowflake*
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I just realized, Samus has taken a bigger jump than even Mega Man did; unfortunately we can't even throw something out there for a reason either...
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Thank you, Slowflake.
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When Cloud beat the holy hell out of CATS we didn't think much of it because CATS was fodder anyway. We blamed SFF for Cloud/Auron (and it turns out there was ON TOP of the Cloud boost), and SFF only.

when legend of zelda beat the holy hell out of adventure, we were shocked by it, even though adventure was fodder anyway. we blamed sff for part of lttp/super metroid, but not sff only.

...that didn't turn out too well for us.
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that may be true hm, but in megamans favor, tidus is stronger than lara or sam fisher, and we saw that he was still just about equal to shadow, so at least for megaman, its almost a little more proven (?)
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I can think of two possible reasons for Samus's jump. One would be Metroid: Zero Mission, which although I thought was almost as good as Super Metroid, doesn't really explain it. Another could be more people getting into Metroid Prime. Again, that seems kinda unlikely.
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Incidentally, a little playing around with Slow's post makes for a perfect scenario for this year.

When Samus beat the holy hell out of Lara and Sam we didn't think much of it because Lara and Sam were fodder anyway. We attributed Sora's result to Sora's 4-pack being mostly newbies and them just sucking THAT much. We ran out of excuses against Sonic, again.

Looks like a repeat, to me.
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when legend of zelda beat the holy hell out of adventure, we were shocked by it, even though adventure was fodder anyway. we blamed sff for part of lttp/super metroid, but not sff only.

And we had absolutely no stats to give us warning signs like they are with Samus. What's your point?
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But Megaman performed like he'd get 47% on Cloud in that match.

In both of Samus' matches, she acted like she could break 60% on the same Cloud. TWICE.

Can't see how Lara 2002 could = Lara 2003, then take a huge drop out of nowhere.
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heh. looks like we had the same idea, rpguy96.

here's hoping your version turns out to be the more relevant one.
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I'd also say Mega Man is a little more "proven" so to speak. We know how strong he is and that there's not a reason for him to dip down and he managed to beat another strong competitor in Shadow. So yeah, I'd say Mega Man looks more "secure"; still Samus' performance has her taking an even bigger jump than him. I'm not denouncing it, but I can't come up with a single reason for it...
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Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Except Lara and Sam are NOT fodder. They're just a step below the likes of Luigi and Donkey Kong.

People are just blinded by their hatred towards Lara, and the impression that no one could recognize Fisher. Splinter Cell is pretty popular, actually.
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We attributed Sora's result to Sora's 4-pack being mostly newbies and them just sucking THAT much.

Well, the only difference is that we KNOW Sora doesn't suck now. If Hayabusa had won his 4-pack, then the excuse would've been out there, but not now.
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Splinter Cell is very popular outside of GameFAQs. I also agree with you, suddenly Fisher and Lara have become very low fodder when they just aren't...
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I'd loosely consider the bottom 32 fodder, but you're right. Lara and Sam are certainly at the top of the bottom half, and not fodder in the same sense as CATS or Tanner.
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Can't see how Lara 2002 could = Lara 2003, then take a huge drop out of nowhere.

date of tomb raider - the angel of darkness: 6/20/03
date of tomb raider - the cradle of life: 7/25/03
date of lara croft vs. zelda: 7/31/03

date of anything tomb raider since: n/a
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Fodder such as Tanner or CATS?

Tanner is fodder to CATS!
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Exactly, if it's VERY popular outside of GameFAQs, I can't see why it wouldn't be at least moderately popular here. It's not like he's close to being as strong as Master Chief or anything.
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Eh, I wouldn't consider the entire bottom half to be fodder. There are several characters who can easily win a match with a good draw. Fodder begins at the point where your only purpose is to be a punching bag for the upper echelon.
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Redline: do you know how these two things were duds? Not duds as in, they were bad, à la FFX-2 or DMC2, but duds like no one even cared.
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Well, the only difference is that we KNOW Sora doesn't suck now.

But we don't know how strong Sora is. So people are going to make excuses about him if this continues next round. And he could be pretty much anywhere between Zero (no change for Jill) and probably as low as Dante (-3.78% for Jill). That's quite a range there.
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DMC3 - "Promised to be the glorious rebirth of the franchise."

Can't wait for Dante in 2005.
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Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

*imagines Sora vs Dante*

"why is the grate Dante getting beated by a dum kid with a key he should be winning like he would aganst that dum pink ball kirby grow up people"
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As much as I hate to admit it, we do have to give Sora some credit now. He's proven himself to be at least a decent mid-carder, and should KH2/CoM do well, he'll be a heavy favourite for the Sweet Sixteen with the proper seeding.
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Of course. Being as "low as Dante" is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Certainly not. If that's as low as Sora can go, Samus will still be looking good if she can break 70%. Cloud would be expected to get 72% on Dante.

Question: How weak could Cloud make Sora look? Would he SFF Sora worse than Link-Ganondorf? If Aeris could go from nearly even to doubling him up, I shudder to think of what Cloud could do to him.
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Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I am not sure if this has been asked before but what do you think Sora would get on Sonic?

Well.. Samus needs to get fairly high on Sora to be a contender for this championship considering that Cloud almost doubled Sonic last year.. And if Samus is only able to get 65% on Sora, she's a fluke this year..

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Again, it depends on where Sora is. Anywhere in the 70's makes for a very strong looking Samus, and even high 60's could work, depending on how much Jill fell.
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Eh, I'm bored of today's match. Just let Samus hit 81% and move onto Round 3.

Speaking of that, what does everyone think Link will get on Yoshi? How bad do you all think the dinosaur will be SFF'd?
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

About 7% of SFF for an 80/20 match. I'm not expecting anything like Ganondorf, though I wouldn't really be surprised if that was the case. SFF always seems to be worse than I expect.
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Supporting the Blue Bomber and Samus to make the finals!

Well, Yoshi's projected to get 27.05%... for SFF I don't know. They aren't from the same series, so we won't be seeing the slaughter Ganondorf got again.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

I think Yoshi can manage over 20% in this match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I think Yoshi can actually manage 22-25%. I don't think Link will get too much SFF.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

With that said, I want a Yoshi's Island sprite!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Can we like...not bring up Link/Ganondorf...>.>

And I agree, Yoshi will get some SFF, but not enough to bring him under 20%
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Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

Yoshi has his own dedicated fanbase, inside and outside the Nintendo fanbase...
he'll get killed, but he'll probably manage to keep it over 20%
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle),
SC2k4 Oracle Challenge - Topic ID : 16274996

Someone asked how Samus could have possibly jumped this much.

Someone suggested that it takes some time before a game finally settles in and its effects are fully-known. We could be seeing the full power of Metroid Prime in action here, though it's sad that Samus would have no chance at beating Link should they face in the finals.

As for discrediting the idea altogether, I point to two things. One, we have had three contests, and in all three of them, we had an SFF final. Two, Samus held Sephiroth under 53% in 2002. If the full effects of Metroid Prime existed before that match, Samus could have easily won.

In short, Samus can beat either of the FF7 characters, and if you have Link winning in your bracket, you should be feeling really good about yourself right now. Link may not even have to take down FF7 on his own this year.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

And how 'bout a Link to the Past sprite as well? The original LoZ sprite is hideous.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

I wouldn't be surprised to see Yoshi get 25%. LUE will do everything they can, including cheat, to see their beloved LUEshi do well. That, coupled with a dedicated Yoshi fanbase, should do it. I'm probably overestimating LUE way too much though.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

Link may not even have to take down FF7 on his own this year.

Link has to worry about Mega Man this year.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

it's sad that Samus would have no chance at beating Link should they face in the finals.

What Squall, KOS-MOS and Luigi did tends to indicate that there was no SFF in Link/Samus, and furthermore Jill and Crash could have probably not gone anywhere but down. Not to mention Ratchet, but that's another story for another day.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Oops, forgot to include the conclusion: if Samus didn't lose anything worth discussing to SFF last year, why would she this year?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Also, does it really take more than 8 months for the full effect to set in? That's nearly a year of getting settled and it didn't even show any noticeable sign last year; this year it's absolutely sent Samus skyrocketing upward. That just seems like an odd reason.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Also, I do think we should get a ALttP sprite this year too. Hopefully we get the more SNES variations as opposed to the first game they starred in.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I'm probably overestimating LUE way too much though.

Speaking as a LUEser, yes, you are. Far less people on LUE than people think take LUEshi seriously.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Yeah, Prime taking more than 8 months to sink in doesn't sit well with me. But I can't come up with anything at all, so...
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)

Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)

As someone said earlier, the way Samus has been performing so far, it might as well be called Samus.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

I don't think we could come up with a good reason. Cloud/Sephiroth had KH, Mega Man has had MMAC, and Samus... she just increased.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Maybe there's a robotic armor convention going on somewhere in the world.
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It's quite possible that more voters just coincidentally played through a Metroid game this past year. Metroid Zero Mission was out, and when it was, FAQ pages for the other Metroid games moved up the ranks for their respective systems. Metroid Prime has been the reason to have a Gamecube for a while now (Or Super Smash Brothers Melee for multiplayer).

Metroid is Nintendo's most "serious" franchise, and it appeals to just about everyone. I have even heard the most devoted Sony/Microsoft fanboys say something like, "I don't see much of a reason to get a Gamecube, other than Metroid Prime." Yes, I've heard this before, and quite a few times as well.

Perhaps MZM was just the "spark" that Samus needed. Metroid is after all, Nintendo's franchise that has the most diverse appeal. Just about every age group and genre/console fan likes Metroid Prime.

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I am Lucid Faia.

I don't think we could come up with a good reason. Cloud/Sephiroth had KH, Mega Man has had MMAC, and Samus... she just increased.

Yeah, but if a bit role as an optional boss in a PS2 game can skyrocket Sephy up a good 7%, maybe Samus can magically increase 14 months after a hit game.

As someone said earlier, the way Samus has been performing so far, it might as well be called Samus.

This is certainly true, but Sephirmus Clinkman sounds cooler.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

That just doesn't make much sense, to be honest. I'd rather not try to come up with a reason for increase.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Yeah, but if a bit role as an optional boss in a PS2 game can skyrocket Sephy up a good 7%, maybe Samus can magically increase 14 months after a hit game.

I can understand Sephiroth, but the reason for Samus just makes zero sense.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Until I see Samus with at least 50.0000000000000001% or above on Cloud and the poll is over.. I won't believe anything until I witness it!

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Nintendo did package Metroid Prime with the Metroid Prime 2: Echoes demo with the GameCube around August 16th. Just thought I'd throw that out there...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Mega Clinkerothmus?
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SC2K4 Score: 58/62
Today's Pick: Samus

Until I see Samus with at least 50.0000000000000001% or above on Cloud and the poll is over.. I won't believe anything until I witness it!

That's from not believing it's possible for anyone can beat Clinkeroth.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Megamus Clinkeroth sounds better.


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honestly, you are bitter over a poll, go crawl inside your skin because these wounds are not healing. - Sir Chris

That's probably true, yeah. I haven't heard any kind of hating on the Metroid series. To be fair, though, the hating I HAVE heard on Link is very minimal, and mostly only from idiots who judge the whole series based solely on Wind Waker's "kiddie-at-first-glance" graphics. The LoZ series has a very broad appeal, too; From "classic" gamers who've been with it since it began, to the LttP generation, to the OoT/WW generation; that's a lot of people, just like with the Metroid series. I think it'll go Link's way if that final happened, because I honestly think he's The 2nd place Nintendo Icon, but it really could go either way, because that match would be SFF mania.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

^That was to Lucid Faia.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

Samus stabilized just under 81%... doesn't look like she'll be able to do it. Darn.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Been an interesting past couple of minutes on the poll. Samus has gotten around 50 votes compared to Sam Fisher's 3.

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*is Lucid Faia*
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful. Vigorous, irresistable. Dominating, Invincible. Overwhelming, Unquenchable.

As someone said earlier, the way Samus has been performing so far, it might as well be called Samus.

lol, I would love that

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I wasn't here last night, but how exactly how favored was Samus with the night vote? I think she could muster up .11% by the end of the poll.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

She's actually fallen about .04% in the last half hour or so. And I think after the board vote leveled off Sam had Samus at 78-79%, or so, but I wasn't there, either.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

That's from not believing it's possible for anyone can beat Clinkeroth.

I will take it that you mean ... for anyone to beat Clinkeroth.... Sephiroth will never be able to beat Cloud IMHO.. Anyways, I am not saying that I don't want an increase in Samus.. I know she has increase but to what amount, we still have to wait and find out.. But if she is able to beat Cloud somehow, I wll have all the respect in the world for her and vow to never go against early warnings just as everyone thought Cloud's early warnings last year were flukes..


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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

I won't be able to join in the discussion much for the next couple of days, due to the unbearable lagginess of my computer. It took me half an hour just to get here.

The cable company says they're going to replace my modem sometime Monday, so, until then, I'll just be watching on the sidelines...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Samus started last night with an opening lead of 27-0. For the first five minutes, she was between 85% and 90%. After about an hour, she was hanging around 81.5%. I woke up today to find out she had gone down to 79%, but had then gone back up to 80.5%.

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I am Lucid Faia.

I'm currently working on the lineup of my pseudo-SC2K5 bracket, and I need ideas for three newcomers... I only have five so far (Ridley, Mewtwo, Geno, Kerrigan, Nightmare). No Nintendo or Square as much as possible, please.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Ghaleon! Whoo!
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Dr. Wily and Vincent...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Ghaleon, from the Lunar series would be a nice addition. He'd probably fare as well as Luca did, but it'd be interesting to see.
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SC2k4: 59/62 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, Jill).
Today's Pick: Samus

Ghaleon and Dr. Wily.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

... I forgot to say, newcomers that could actually put on a decent performance. Methinks that unless we go for blatant overrepresentation of some series/companies, Frog, Vivi and Hayabusa were all that was left...
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Adol Christian from the Ys series.
Alis (Landale, if you're talking Part 4) from the Phantasy Star series.
Alex Kidd from the...surprise...Alex Kidd series.
Gilius Thunderhead -- yeah, that's the awesome dwarf from Golden Axe.
Scorpion (red player 2) from Contra...yes, I'm serious.
Dirk The Daring from Dragon's Lair...I'm pretty sure it was a game before it was a cartoon.

I'll post more for you if you need them as I think of them, Slowflake.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

Lloyd Irving and/or Kratos Aurion

Fawful!!!

Carmen Sandiego

Terra Bradford
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"Sonic has never asked me to do anything for him before. I promise that I will not let him down."--Miles "Tails" Prower

Sheena or Kratos from Tales of Symphonia.

I have a SpC2k5 potential bracket going, but I'm not sure if I should post it.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

A Tales of Symphonia character (Lloyd or Kratos) might be capable of something, though I doubt it.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

I can't believe people are actually suggesting DIRK THE DARING... come on, he got blown out by Max Payne AND I'M NOT EVEN BRINGING MAX PAYNE BACK!!!
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Strong characters? Let me say again:

Dr. Wily and Vincent Valentine.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I put Dirk down before I read your message about characters that would get good support.

I still stand by Alis from PS1/4, as well as Adol and Gilius.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

Vincent Valentine? Uh-uh. Not a fourth FF7 character, I'll stand by it until the day that I die.

On second thought, Wily may be worth a shot. Don't think he can possibly be worse than Protoman.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Strong characters? Let me say again:

Dr. Wily and Vincent Valentine.

Not too sure on Dr. Wily but I agree on Vincent Valentine since I want to know what his new game is about..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Slow:
Mai Shiranui, The Prince, Ryu (Breath of Fire)
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If you can spare one more Square character, make it Terra Branford.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Nope, no more Square. I already got 15 Square and 14 Nintendo.

On a side note, I realized I didn't put HK down there. Sora's performance yesterday kinda justifies a comeback, don't you think?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

A Fire Emblem character maybe? I don't see them doing much, but Ness seems to get by on SSBM recognition, so maybe Marth or Roy could do something, even if Eliwood/Lyn/Hector couldn't.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Diddy Kong (would do better than Donkey Kong)
MewTwo (would do better than Pikachu)
Sub-Zero (would do better than Scorpion)
Chun-Li
Mai Valentine
Ridley
BRING BACK FOX
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I'd already give Ness a relatively low seed, so I wouldn't consider Marth just yet. Especially since his game wasn't even released in the US, unlike Earthbound.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

chun li?

she wouldn't be a powerhouse...but i could see her beating ken...
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redline15: blasting off at the speed of light

Vincent Valentine? Uh-uh. Not a fourth FF7 character, I'll stand by it until the day that I die.

Then by all means remove Aeris and make room for the new powerhouse.

On second thought, Wily may be worth a shot. Don't think he can possibly be worse than Protoman.

Protoman would actually rank in the top 32 with SFF taken out of the picture; but yeah put Dr. Wily in there.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

but i could see her beating ken...

She should never beat Ken. >>
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Don't think Diddy and Sub-Zero would do better than DK and Scorpion. Heck, DK and Scorpion won in the nomination part!

I doubt SF is strong enough to warrant three reps.

One spot left!
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Lyn (Fire Emblem) could be a decent midcarder... despite how badly her game bombed this Spring...
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"The surest sign of intelligent life outside Earth is that none of them has tried to contact us" ~Calvin

I still dislike your decision to not include Vincent, especially after Advent Children.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Give it to Ghaleon. He'd probably be a little stronger than Luca Blight, and it would make all us Lunar fanboys happy.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

I second bringing back Fox.
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BtT: 3:53.43 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

I just thought of Joanna Dark, but PD did quite bad this spring... opinions?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

chocobos and moogles!
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http://www.rpgelite.org
*smites Yoshi, Tails, and Vyse for wrecking his SC2k4 chances*

She'd be fodder.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

FPS games > FPS characters. I don't think Joanna would do much.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

I not only brought back Fox, but also Aeris, Yuna, Aya, Morrigan, Strider, Kasumi and a bunch of others.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Strider?! Your move to not include Vincent is forgiven. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Lyn's a better candidate than Joanna, I'd think. She's from an RPG, her platform is more popular, her game is more recent, and FE did only slightly worse than PD in the spring contest.
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"The surest sign of intelligent life outside Earth is that none of them has tried to contact us" ~Calvin

Harry Mason, James Sunderland, or Heather Mason from Silent Hill 1, 2, and 3 respectively.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

Kudos to bringing back Aya. Parasite Eve is a favorite of mine.

Do you think the casuals care about nominations? DK might have been nominated due to name recognition, but I think Diddy would be the actual favorite, especially when playing the game. I think he'd be at least as strong as DK. Sub-Zero? He DID get the solo game out of the two. There are as many Sub-Zero fans as Scorpion fans. Besides, we've already seen how Scorpion and DK perform! Don't you want variety?
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Wait, wait 2005? Put Leon Kennedy down. You know, the guy from that insanely hyped Resident Evil 4. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

DK's not going out. He's a legendary figure that can do decent. These are hard to come by.

I'll think it over tonight... I'll get you back on this tomorrow. See ya!
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

I'll second Leon, even if you have to knock out Jill to do it.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

You know, why does Samanosuke never get nominated from Onimusha 1/3? I'd like to think he had some decent popularity to at least make it through Round 1.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

And for the record, that "not too recent" rule from my pseudo-SpC2K5 bracket applies here too. No characters from games that won't be out two weeks from now.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

...are you kidding me?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Question for everyone. Why is CJayC holding on to the nomination information like they are BCS computer formulas? I think we should petition him to give us that information. Why DOESN'T he provide the information? I'd like to see the nomination numbers and WHO got nominated. Like I said before, I assumed top performers from last year automatically got in, so people could focus on getting new people in there. Show me some numbers!
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b49.jpg
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b50.jpg

Pics are up. >>>>>>>>>>XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b49.jpg
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b50.jpg

I love these pictures. My faith in Ceej has been restored.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

XDXD

Poor Yoshi and Mario.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Crono with the pic advantage. ****.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Those pictures own!

Yoshi's sprites from YI and Link's from ALttP! =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Mario looks like he is going to get impaled and Yoshi is about get his tongue lopped off. Heh.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Crono doesn't have the pic advantage, he's on Mario's turf =D
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

SPRITES!!!! Link and Mario have home court advantage though <_<. And Mario has his cape. I fear for Crono... and my bracket...
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

HE HAS A SWORD SHOWING.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

Crono with the pic advantage. ****.

But Mario's first match mysteriously ran over by about half an hour. OMGTEHFORESHADOWING!1

>_> <_<
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Pssh. Mario totally owns Crono, he's got the home field advantage. =p

And I cannot wait to see Mega Man vs Zero now...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Since Vincent is starring in the official, FFVII sequel GAME, then he might become a serious heavyweight once that is released. Heck, maybe even the hype beforehand will propel him up the ranks.
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
summoner? wtf! summoner=Yuna Taru=midgit GaryPayton LA

Guys... Link and Crono have obvious advantages here. Both in their strength and in their pics.

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I am Lucid Faia.

SPRITES ROCK!
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Never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference.

MARIO'S CAPE = INSTANT WIN!

But what about,

SHINY SWORDS = INSTANT WIN!

Link should have the Master Sword. And since that's my only complaint, you know that they are good pictures.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Slow, you completely forget that the CAPE is showing.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Both in their strength and in their pics.

You are sadly mistaken for the Mario vs Crono match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

But capes aren't phallic pieces of metal GameFAQs users orgasm all over.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 058/062 - Matches: 44/47 - Rank: 00150/33221 - Today: Samus - Tomorrow: Link

What significance does the cape have?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Yeah, I don't like Mario having the home court advantage.

I really think Ghaleon could do as good as some of the people said you were bringing back, Slow.
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SC2k4: 59/62 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, Jill).
Today's Pick: Samus

What significance does the cape have?

It's the cape for crying out loud. That clearly beats out anything.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Well it's certainly better than FLUDD.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

The cape only loses to the shoe. And both are far beyond that of a pathetic sword.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

It's the cape for crying out loud. That clearly beats out anything.

Wrong. The cape would get PWNED by Raccoon Mario, who would get his head handed to him by TANOOKI MARIO, the ultimate Mario pic.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

FLUDD was cool.

Oh and I'm back. And my fault for flipping out earlier today HM.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Cape = Instant win?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b51.jpg

I think YOU are mistaken.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Only the Raccoon suit would beat out the Cape and we know that's not present in this match. Crono has no chance with the Cape out and home field. That picture reeks of Mario.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

No, Cape Mario beats out Raccoon Mario any day of the week. But I agree that Tanooki Mario owns them both.

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I am Lucid Faia.

You can hardly see the cape in the Spring contest pic.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Waht if CJayC had a Sprite pick for a fourth MvC match, and had Mario in a KURIBO'S SHOE! Crono would be ULTRAPWNED!
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SC2K4 Score: 58/62
Today's Pick: Samus

No, Cape Mario beats out Raccoon Mario any day of the week.

Not a chance.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I prefer Kuribo's Shoe > Tanooki > Cape > Hammer, in terms of my favorite powers.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

The only thing of Mario's that I'm getting sick of is this stupid Kubiro's Shoe fad. It's not funny anymore, guys.

Anyways, I guess I'll let you Mario fans have this little moment, be happy for the one day left until Crono slaughters Mario. :)

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I am Lucid Faia.

I didn't even mention Kuribo's Shoe in the Tanooki > Racoon > Cape. It would instantly elevate Mario to a level that Sephirmus Clinkman only wished they could be at.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Racoon Mario is my all time favorite. Racoon Mario pic = pwnage.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

The only thing that could be better for Mario than Cape Mario is Raccoon Mario....

These pics will rock though. Everyone looks good. I'm just pissed that my Ryu Ninja Gaiden sprite will never be seen.....

I'd like to see X vs. Zero in the Mega Man/Zero matchup. Frog vs Snake? That pic will probably look like ass. I don't care for Frog's sprite, and Snake's sprite isn't too hot either. And a Metal Gear background certainly won't help much...

Midgar division? I don't care.... UNLESS CJayC puts in block characters for Cloud and Sephiroth from FFVII field mode. Otherwise, bah.....

Chaos Division won't look right with 16-bit Sonic vs. 128-bit Dante and 16-bit Samus vs. 128-bit Sora. Not like it matters though...
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Mario won't be losing on Monday. Hmm... notice how both start with M? ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

The Mega Man vs Zero picture is going to own.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Mario won't be losing on Monday. Hmm... notice how both start with M? ;)

Funny how you didn't notice StarCraft and Saturday both start with the same letter.

ZING!

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I am Lucid Faia.

ERm, I think Crono's got a great chance.
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Hylian Knight Forever
SC2k4 Score: 60/62 Rank: 16th

Slowflake, why Yuna? She's annoying in FFX, her voice acting sucks, and she stars in FFX-2. I think Rikku might do better. I wouldn't put either one of them in any comtest though.

These new pics rock. I can't wait for Mega Man/Zero as well. I also wonder what Seph/Auron will be. Sora's going to be so owned though. I'm hoping now for Super Metroid Samus in Lower Norfair.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

The Mega Man vs Zero picture is going to own.

Agreed... I hope Megaman can break 80-85% on Zero.. No offense to Zero or anything but Megaman just flat out owns Zero in every aspects..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

i love those pics.

mario will definitely win.
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http://www.rpgelite.org
*smites Yoshi, Tails, and Vyse for wrecking his SC2k4 chances*

Those two pics tell alot about the matches coming up.

Link is going to take out Yoshi by cutting off his tongue, and Mario is just running to his death against Crono.
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

Mario is just running to his death against Crono.

But he has the cape! He can fly over Crono and dive bomb him.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Samus needs 0.07% in order to get 81%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Samus has been stuck just short of 81% for quite some time now.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

I'm going to make a drive to get people to nominate Nina Williams, from Tekken. She has her own game coming out this year, not quite sure when, so that's a plus for her. and she's nina williams, that's enough right there.

and thosepics, my poor silly Yoshi forgot that he shouldn't eat everything he can reach with his tongue.
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I'm hoping now for Super Metroid Samus in Lower Norfair.

<3
<3
<3

The music down there ****ing rules. It's so epic....
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Hey Slowflake, two things. One, I agree with taking Yuna out of your bracket. If you absolutely must include a third character besides Tidus and Auron, then I would suggest Rikku. If you've played FFX-2, you should be able to understand.

As for another suggestion, I also think that Lyn from Fire Emblem would put out a decent performance. She's a good character, and I highly suggest playing her game if you haven't done so already.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'm going to make a drive to get people to nominate Nina Williams, from Tekken. She has her own game coming out this year, not quite sure when, so that's a plus for her. and she's nina williams, that's enough right there.

Not to mention that Tekken 5 is scheduled to come out New Year's Eve this year.
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As for another suggestion, I also think that Lyn from Fire Emblem would put out a decent performance. She's a good character, and I highly suggest playing her game if you haven't done so already.

Heh, I'm playing FE right now. Slow, you should too. It's fantastic.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

By the way, I found a loophole to that whole "game must come out within two weeks" garbage. Leon Kennedy was actually in previous Resident Evil games, it just slipped my mind at the time.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Hyrule Division: Round 3 - Match 49 – (1)Link vs. (5)Yoshi

Moltar’s Analysis

Link - You can tell he’s one of those kids people picked on in grade school…

Round 1 – vs. CATS (Link: 87.83% - CATS: 12.17%)
Round 2 – vs. Ganondorf (Link: 87.90% - Ganondorf: 12.10%)

Why must the truth hurt so bad?!?!?

Yoshi - With him around, there is no use for the words “Garbage” and “Leftovers”

Round 1 – vs. Ryo (Yoshi: 76.4% - Ryo: 23.6%)
Round 2 – vs. Luigi (Yoshi: 54.48 – Luigi 45.52%)

Alright, Yoshi is able to get past Mario’s brother.

Wow Link, how much more low in my book can you get. First you stomp Ganondorf into the ground, and now YOSHI?! Ugh, you’re lucky I can’t hate you because….it’s impossible. Link should win this very easily, the big question is if he’ll be able to break 80%. Yoshi is projected to get 27.05% on Link, but anyone with half a brain knows Yoshi isn’t doing that.

Moltar’s Bracket Says:Link will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Link 80% - Yoshi 20%



Ulti's Analysis

I'm not even going to dignify this with a response.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Link/Link with 84%
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sam vs. Samus - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (58/62)

If you've played FFX-2, you should be able to understand.

Having played and gotten 100% completion on FFX-2, I have no reason why you'd want to favor Rikku. She's even more annoying than she was in the first game. I would favor Yuna over her if only by virtue of being a main character.

On a side note, I am currently the happiest man on the face of the earth after the results of the Tennessee-Florida game.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

And looking at the picture, Mario-Crono does indeed own.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
Sweet Sixteen: Duel of Heroes vs. Cloud Strife

Link Vs. Yoshi looks far better.

Yoshi looks so great!
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And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

Yeah, but he'll get creamed.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Ah, I just had to change my sig. Man, I'll never be able to get to sleep tonight.

I was wondering what CJayC was going to do to add some flavor and variety to this year's sprite pics. He didn't disappoint.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

That Tennessee kicker went from being a scapegoat to a hero in a matter of minutes.

But Ohio State's Mike Nugent is THE man as far as kickers go. :)

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*is Lucid Faia*
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful. Vigorous, irresistable. Dominating, Invincible. Overwhelming, Unquenchable.

I would love to shake the hand of that Florida Gator who slapped Wade in the face and got that 15 yard penalty that stopped the clock with a minute left.

Ohio State may have the best kicker, but Tennessee has the best punter bar none. Colquitt is the man.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

On a side note, I am currently the happiest man on the face of the earth after the results of the Tennessee-Florida game.

God bless you. I just got back to my dorm from that...sweet baby Jesus.

Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

God bless you and your sig.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Hells yes! Go Vols! Fantastic game with an even better ending.

Also; Mario takes the pic advantage. Cape and Home Turf > Sword. And Link/Yoshi just owns, I can't wait for Super Metroid Samus XD
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SC2K4 Score: 64/66(Yoshi) Pick: Crono
FF7>>>>me.

I'm curious to see how Frog/Solid Snake's pic looks...and Sonic/Dante.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

I love 16-bit Sonic...sadly, he got pwn'd last time he got one. Damned Cloud.
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SC2K4 Score: 64/66(Yoshi) Pick: Crono
FF7>>>>me.

I want to see Cloud vs. Squall, for obvious reasons.

Glad to see so many Vols fans around tonight.
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Rocky Top, you'll always be home sweet home to me!
Tennessee 30, Florida 28

No, the last time he had one was Sonic 2 vs Super Mario World, and what a thrashing that was.

I'm looking forward to pics for Mega Man/Zero and Samus/Sora.

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*is Lucid Faia*
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful. Vigorous, irresistable. Dominating, Invincible. Overwhelming, Unquenchable.

I'll join in the fun. I'm glad the Gators lost (my grandparents/uncles are Seminole fans).
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Sephirmus Clinkman?

lmao, Clinkman gets me every time...
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SC2K4 Score: 64/66(Yoshi) Pick: Crono
FF7>>>>me.

Clinkman sounds like a pretty good original Mega Man series boss to me.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

Clinkman > A Robot Onion
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SC2K4 Score: 64/66(Yoshi) Pick: Crono
FF7>>>>me.

Which MMX7 designer said "Hey! Lets make an Onion, in ROBOT FORM!"?

Ugh.
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SC2K4 Score: 64/66(Yoshi) Pick: Crono
FF7>>>>me.

Ulti: You really think Yoshi'll get slapped down to 16%?
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"All in all, sometimes it's a wonder that pesants[sic] actually live long enough to learn how to farm....."-mysterygilgamesh4
{34}

Samus just can't seem to break 80.93%.
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

.03% until 81%, heh.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Come on, Samus!
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Link (2002) --> Clinkeroth (2003) --> Sephirmus Clinkman (2004)
Supporting Samus over Mega Man for the finals!

She'll hit 81%.

The new pics are great, I like the style. And Super Metroid Samus in lower Norfair would be the best pic ever.
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honestly, you are bitter over a poll, go crawl inside your skin because these wounds are not healing. - Sir Chris

One hour left and 0.02% to go. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

On a side note, I am currently the happiest man on the face of the earth after the results of the Tennessee-Florida game.

I was rooting for Tennessee the whole way, but they would not have won without that blown call near the end. The ref was standing no more than 5 feet away from the play, yet he only called a personal foul on Florida when they were both smacking each other in the face. That's BS.

Frankly, Tennessee did not deserve to win that game. Florida outplayed them for most of the game, and if you're dumb enough to have a college kicker who can't make an extra point, then you deserve to lose. Tennessee was handed that game on a silver plate. Either way, to play 59 minutes to have the game decided by the refs is total BS, and I hope the NCAA suspends the official who made the call.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Ulti: You really think Yoshi'll get slapped down to 16%?

If he doesn't, I do; Yoshi'll be gettin' a miracle to break 20%, and he can range anywhere from 15%-20% in my book. I see 16% is the most likely.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Yoshi will be getting over 20% in this match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

From: goku z | Posted: 9/19/2004 12:45:55 AM | Message Detail
I love 16-bit Sonic...sadly, he got pwn'd last time he got one. Damned Cloud.

Wasn't Sonic in the sprite round against Aeris last year?
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Sam Fisher 19.02% 15265
Samus Aran 80.98% 65000
TOTAL VOTES 80265

50 minutes remain.

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I am Lucid Faia.

I don't think Yoshi will be SFFed as bad as Ganondorf was. I'd like to think *maybe* Yoshi could even pull 23%.

Then again, I hate Link also.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

The SFF certainly won't be as bad as it was for Ganondorf...but Yoshi has alot less distance to fall than Ganon did, plus having a fanbase from the Mario series will help stop SFF as drastically as Link/Ganon did. Yoshi still won't be able to stop a high amount of SFF though.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

11% of SFF is a little drastic if you ask me. I think Yoshi has enough of a fanbase to get over 20% on Link.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

11% of SFF is a little drastic if you ask me. I think Yoshi has enough of a fanbase to get over 20% on Link.

Likewise, 7% of SFF is a little optimistic if you ask me. I think Yoshi has too much of his fanbase shared to get over 20% on Link.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

I'd be quite surprised if Yoshi didn't manage 20%.

But Ganondorf did do worse than CATS on Link.....so I think anything can happen at this point.
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honestly, you are bitter over a poll, go crawl inside your skin because these wounds are not healing. - Sir Chris

You'll all be more than surprised when Yoshi pulls not 15%, but 51% that's right, for reasons outlined in my topic, Yoshi is winning tomorrow.

I can have dreams!

I do think he will get over 20% though.
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Wasn't Sonic in the sprite round against Aeris last year?

Yeah, he was. And you can always check creativename's picture archive. ;)
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Yoshi's doing great at the moment with about 28% of the vote. I think he'll be able to hold onto more than 20% by the time things are over.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

I saw Yoshi with about 32% for a moment. ^_^
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

the best moment of my life...well not really, but it was good
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those extra minutes right before the mario vs crono match dun dun dun


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Today's Survivor topic can be found here, Please vote : )http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16070956

And Mario's first match ran over by about half an hour. XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

And there goes Link with the runaway votes...maybe there won't be even 20% left for Yoshi after today.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

Score-Brackets-% Right
62----1--------100.0000000
61----12-------100.0000000
60----28-------100.0000000
59----108------99.0740741
58----171------99.4152047
57----244------100.0000000
56----309------99.6763754
55----365------99.1780822
54----471------97.2399151
53----671------97.1684054
52----858------95.2214452
51----1068-----94.2883895
50----1412-----93.5552408
49----1535-----92.3127036
48----1912-----90.3765690
47----2021-----87.4319644
46----2284-----87.4343257
45----2312-----86.4186851
44----2279-----84.3352348
43----2223-----82.3661718
42----2095-----81.8615752
41----1751-----77.2130211
40----1667-----75.9448110
39----1435-----75.6794425
38----1232-----75.0000000
37----932------71.0300429
36----721------69.6255201
35----619------66.7205170
34----528------69.3181818
33----440------66.3636364
32----327------64.5259939
31----236------62.7118644
30----208------59.6153846
29----156------59.6153846
28----105------60.0000000
27----98-------48.9795918
26----55-------45.4545455
25----50-------58.0000000
24----44-------56.8181818
23----19-------52.6315789
22----17-------52.9411765
21----9--------44.4444444
20----10-------20.0000000
19----5--------60.0000000
18----3--------0.0000000
17----3--------0.0000000
16----4--------25.0000000
15----4--------25.0000000
14----4--------0.0000000
13----4--------25.0000000
12----6--------0.0000000
11----3--------0.0000000
10----11-------0.0000000
9-----7--------0.0000000
8-----7--------0.0000000
7-----10-------0.0000000
6-----17-------5.8823529

Those with a score of 5 or less got the match wrong. As usual the top tiers got it perfect. All th way down to the 48s did better than 90%. Nobody fell off the Top 50, but did you really expect anybody to?
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

I think we won't be hearing any complaints about the matchup pictures this round, at least not real complaints. This is obviously due to the fact that sprite images off 16-bit systems are much easier to deal with.

All in all, we get some some old-school nostaliga, fair matches where a 12% win cannot be "attributed"(actually complained about by some) to "OMFG!!! Sora wouldve been PWNAGED if Ryu didnt look like a girl," far less complaints, an easier time for CJC to create them.

Everyone wins =) yay for Sprite round.

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www.bobandgeorge.com
You'll never vote anti-MegaMan again

I wouldn't be surprised if Yoshi kept up with 20%. I agree that SFF shouldn't be nearly as bad as with Ganondorf. I just hate that we can't see how strong Link really is. He could have increased like a madman or stayed the same... It's all hidden in SFF. SFF aside, being able to blow out Ganondorf and Yoshi by these numbers should be impressive. Too bad SFF is such a *****.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I think we won't be hearing any complaints about the matchup pictures this round

Just wait until Snake's match comes up. Metal Gear NES' Snake vs. Frog in full Chrono Trigger glory. :p

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Also, the women all have beards. Either that, or there are no dwarven women. Yeah, I could see that. This is Suikoden after all. -http://videogamerecaps.com

I want to see Solid Snake on the Metal Gear Solid 2 tanker getting ready to squash Frog like a bug, personally. Or at the very least, I hope we don't get a Snake sprite. His aren't very good.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Finally found a decent character to put on there. I'm surprised no mention of him was ever made, but oh well.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 060/064 - Matches: 45/48 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Link - Tomorrow: Mario

Diddy is not the icon DK is.

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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

[for your bracket. If you include Diddy, DO NOT exclude DK.]

Oh yeah, and Cloud/Squall should be Kingdom Hearts stylish.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Nope, no Diddy. The DK series aren't nearly popular enough to warrant two characters, plus I've already got 14 Nintendo chars total.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 060/064 - Matches: 45/48 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Link - Tomorrow: Mario

Also, I can't say that I didn't expect the current 78/79 split, but I wish that Ulti's prediction would come true XD
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

Yay! Go Yoshi!

Stay over 20% for Molty!
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Yoshi - Bracket: Link - Vote: Yoshi (60/64)

Hey, go Yoshi. Nice job keeping Link from 80% thus far. And the match pic is the best this contest has seen yet.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 60/64, Next Winner: Link

Bracket. Include. Kerrigan. Now.

</Blatant fanboyism>
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2k4 - The Summer of Sephiroth.

And the match pic is the best this contest has seen yet.

I second that, though tomorrow's will be better.
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Current Elite Eight:
Link~ Crono~ Zero~ Frog~ Cloud Strife~ Auron~ Sonic~ Sora

She was already in last time, no reason she isn't this time.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 060/064 - Matches: 45/48 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Link - Tomorrow: Mario

So 64 is perfect right now?? Wow, only 1 person.
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~Baker of cookies~

She was already in last time, no reason she isn't this time.

Mia culpa - merely making sure that Kerrigan's solid midcarding doesnt go unrespected.
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2k4 - The Summer of Sephiroth.

I'm -4, and only Mac Arrowny (as far as the Guru concerned) as more points with me with the same remaining bracket as mine...he's the only one I want to win, now, because I'll get tons of uber money.....and the Top 50 will be filled with Gurus, Elites, and Vets..oh my....lol.

Um, anyways, Yoshi's not getting 20%. Not if Link gets the day vote....which I'm sure he will. >_>'

And Mario and Crono's pic..omg, Mario is going to so kick Crono's ass now.

GAME OVAR'D


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Come on, Crono has the pic advantage and you know it.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 060/064 - Matches: 45/48 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Link - Tomorrow: Mario

Come on, Crono has the pic advantage and you know it.

Explain. If my eyes aren't deceiving me, the background looks like something from SMB3, or some other Mario game. Oh yeah, and Mario can fly. :-)

Or maybe my sarcasm detector is broken again. :-(

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Last time I checked, Cloud and Sephiroth didn't use capes to become orgasm-inducing machines for GameFAQs users.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 060/064 - Matches: 45/48 - Rank: 00149/33221 - Today: Link - Tomorrow: Mario

Ah, excellent. My modem has already been replaced. :)

I'll be posting my Summer 2005 bracket shortly.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Before I post it, I'd just like to ask Slowflake about something:

How many new characters do you have in your bracket? 'Cause I have these:

Vincent
Serge
Zidane
Mewtwo
Captain Falcon

Just five, but I've also got Strider, Morrigan, Aya, and Mr. Driller returning in my bracket.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

meh.. I just have a feeling tomorrow's poll won't have much controversy.. I think Crono will comfortably win, well, as comfortable as 4,850 votes is :P
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Come on, Crono has the pic advantage and you know it.

No he does not. That entire picture has Mario written all over it.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

Crono looks like he is about to impale Mario with his katana. Crono has the better pic.

But in a match like this, with two well known characters, the pic doesn't matter so much. We just have to wait til tomorrow and see what happens.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

It doesn't matter if Crono himself looks better, it's a pic of Crono vs. Mario in Mario World. Home court advantage.
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I feel that man has ruled this world as a stumbling, demented child-king long enough. - Vincent Price

It's from the original Super Mario Brothers, not Super Mario World. Big difference there.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

You know, the last time Crono had a sword he lost and without controversy from Mario's side.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

No there's not. I fail to see how the entire picture just screaming "Mario!" has Crono with the picture advantage.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

That was then. This is now.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

And Link hits 80%! Bwahahaha.
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SC2K4 Score: 64/66(Yoshi) Pick: Crono
FF7>>>>me.

Well, I'll cooncede that the pic is slightly biased towards Mario, giving Crono all the more reason to win.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

And since Mario has his cape, and it's at his home, he will definitely win!

The average voter is just that easily swayed!
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Snake vs. Tanner - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Yoshi - Bracket: Link - Vote: Yoshi (60/64)

The whole point of these pictures is favor the higher seed, so it's set in their environment. I just can't see the other character having a picture advantage, heck Mario's even got the cape and Super Mario World sprite. All of it just screams "Vote for me!" (Mario)

=p

And Link hits 80%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

In any case, this pic won't have much effect on a match this anticicpated.
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

argh, typos
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SC2k4 Predicted Contest Winner: Sephiroth
62/64/192 Next tough pick: CRONO

I'm already ready for it to be over.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Tom Bombadil PWNED my socks off! (Sonic vs Ryu)

let's fill this topic.

also

Yoshi is my second favorite character *cries* he doesn't deserve this
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Summer 2004 Contest 57/64 Link vs. Yoshi

Of course the pic is biased towards Mario; Ceej made it, for God's sake.

Last time I checked, Cloud and Sephiroth didn't use capes to become orgasm-inducing machines for GameFAQs users.

Must...restrain...lewd...commentary...
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 60/64, Next Winner: Link

Also I love the Crono vs. Mario pic

I hope Mario wins
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Summer 2004 Contest 57/64 Link vs. Yoshi

Go Yoshi. Way to maintain that 20% on the pain that is Link.

And nice to see that somehow, two people with high bracket scores actually managed to pick Sam Fisher or Gordon Freeman to beat Samus. Hah.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

Go Crono.
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I'd much rather be elitist than an idiot with a misconception that generalizes an entire board.~Bender1616
ZSB [aX]

poor Yoshi he's below 20%
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Summer 2004 Contest 57/64 Link vs. Yoshi

Or Lara...
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I feel that man has ruled this world as a stumbling, demented child-king long enough. - Vincent Price